These Democrats Seem To Really Want A War With Russia

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A little over 4 years ago Obama infamously mocked Governor Mitt Romney for his assertion that Russia was America's number one geopolitical foe...

"Governor Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that Al Qaeda's a threat.  Because a few months ago when you were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America you said 'Russia'.  The 1980's are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War has been over for 20 years."

 

...and while it was a very 'cute' line, 4 short years later Democrats are now the ones progressing the relentless narrative that Russian President Vladimir Putin is behind pretty much every international dispute or cyberhacking plot known to man.

But while most dismissed the left's rhetoric as just a bunch of sore losers letting off steam in the wake of a stunning defeat in November, rather than subsiding, the left's rhetoric seems to be escalating with several lawmakers, with no proof whatsoever mind you, looking to officially label Russia's alleged meddling as a "act of war."  Per The Hill:

Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.) most recently accused Russia of engaging in warfare.

 

“I think this attack that we’ve experienced is a form of war, a form of war on our fundamental democratic principles,” Coleman said during a hearing this week at the House Homeland Security Committee.

 

She lambasted Trump for his praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin, asking a panel of experts and former officials what message Trump’s “borderline dismissive attitude” toward Moscow’s cyberattack sends to the Kremlin and other nations.

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But Coleman isn't the only Democrat looking to pick a fight, as a couple of California representatives have also piled on:

“I actually think that their engagement was an act of war, an act of hybrid warfare, and I think that’s why the American people should be concerned about it,” said Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.).

 

“This past election, our country was attacked. We were attacked by Russia,” said Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.). “I see this as an opportunity for everyone on this committee, Republicans and Democrats, to not look in the rearview window but to look forward and do everything we can to make sure that our country never again allows a foreign adversary to attack us.”

Meanwhile, the heightened rhetoric of the left comes despite the stark warnings from experts on the consequences of their provocative accusations.

“I find that sort of talk dangerous,” said Schmitt, who led the team of legal experts that formulated the Tallinn Manual 2.0, a comprehensive analysis of how international law applies to cyberspace.

 

The Army’s top officer, Mark Milley, also cautioned individuals about using the term “war” to refer to the cyberattacks, saying at a conference on Tuesday, “If it’s an act of war, then you’ve got to start thinking of your response to that sort of thing.”

 

Schmitt assesses that the hacking campaign was not an act of war but rather a violation of two prohibitions: one on violating another state’s sovereignty and another on intervention into another state’s affairs.

 

“Without a scintilla of a doubt, it is not an act of war,” Schmitt said.

Of course, as we pointed out earlier this month, if hacking and/or seeking to influence the outcome of elections is truly an "act of war" as these Democrats suggest, then we would kindly remind them that their former leader "declared war" on the majority of the civilized world during his eight years in office.  In fact, courtesy of WikiLeaks, here is just a small list of some of the individuals who were wire tapped by the Obama Administration over the years.

The US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between 1. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and 2. German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin;

 

Obama bugged 3. Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone;

 

Obama singled out the 4. Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception;

 

Obama stole sensitive 5. Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu;

 

Obama intercepted 6. top EU and 7. Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US “extort[ing]” them at the WTO Doha arounds (the talks subsequently collapsed);

 

Obama explicitly targeted 8. five other top EU economic officials for long term interception, including their French, Austrian and Belgium phone numbers;

 

Obama explicitly targetted the phones of 9. Italy’s ambassador to NATO and 10. other top Italian officials for long term interception; and

 

Obama intercepted details of a critical private meeting between then 11. French president Nicolas Sarkozy, Merkel and Berlusconi, where the latter was told the Italian banking system was ready to “pop like a cork”.

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29.5 hours's picture

Playing with fire. They talk war yet firmly believe that there will be no consequences to their privileged layer.

Occident Mortal's picture

Hillary = the Saudi Arabia candidate. How much did they donate to her super pacs again?? Enough to buy up all the super delegates anyway.

Perimetr's picture

These fool democrats will be rewarded with an 800 kiloton Russian warhead detonating over their gated communities.

http://thebulletin.org/what-would-happen-if-800-kiloton-nuclear-warhead-...

 

Atavists R Us's picture

800kt if they are lucky. Something much bigger than 1 megaton is more likely.

Itsarap's picture

Yes,This is why Trump placed Saudi-Arabia on the travel ban list,Overturned the arm-sales ban(against SA),And closed all his business ventures in Saudi-Arabia!!!!MAGA!!!!!WINNING!!!!!

JuliaS's picture

BTW there was a huge explosion at Ukraine's main weapons depot last Thursday. Media's largely silent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=Ox3EL9caJrU

Ukraine, surprisingly, didn't rush to blame this on Russia and instead filed lawsuits for negligence regarding the incident. They also refused NATO help outright, which got my alarm bells ringing.

What are they hiding?

One of the theories discussed on forums is that the large explosion which went on in that video was from a cooked off nuke or some other prohibited weapon.

Remember about a month ago there was a spike in radiation in Western Europe and everyone just shrugged their shoulders? Was there a similar event that didn't end up on Youtube? Somebody knows something and not telling us.

BarkingCat's picture

Any Russian or Ukrainian speakers on here??

It sounds to me like they are speaking Russian and no Ukrainian. 

I know that the country has Russian and Ukrainian speaking regions so I wonder where this happened. 

Arkadin's picture

Russian.  And the arms dump that was blown up was in the pro-Russian eastern part of the country.  

Although west Urkaine is "Ukrainian-speaking" and east Ukraine is Russian-speaking, all major Ukrainan cities are heavily Russian-speaking witht he exception of Lvov.  I knew a west Ukrainian lady living in Kiev who used to complain that whenever she would enter a shop or restaurant in Kiev she would speak Ukrainian but the help would answer in Russian.  She used to say that the only place in Kiev where Ukrainian was spoken was in the President's cabinet.  

In reality virtually all Ukrainians speak and read Russian fluently, whereas many Russian-speakers have poor Ukrainian if they have any.  When they say 70% of Ukrainian citizens are Ukrainians and 30% Russians, they are referring to ethnicity, not language.

 

 

 

 

East Indian's picture

Always happens in a multi-lingual country. The lingua-franca will slowly seep into every language, and crowd them out of public spaces. And here, to complicate more, Russian and Ukrainian are very close also! 

IridiumRebel's picture

Tulsi Gabbard is the onely one who doesn't.

GUS100CORRINA's picture

This headline does not surprise me!

"These Democrats Seem To Really Want A War With Russia"

Why? They need to create a DISTRACTION from their PAST and PRESENT CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.

Also, when your party is known as SATAN worshipers who have been involved in the most heinous acts of depravity, they need to create a diversion.

These PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL DESPOTS will never go away until they are all locked up!

May GOD BLESS the TRUMP TEAM in their work.

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Side Note: Anyone see the movie WAG THE DOG? Below is the plot that might be of interest since the topic of war came up.

"Two weeks prior to reelection, the United States president lands in the middle of a sex scandal. In need of outside help to quell the situation, presidential adviser Winifred Ames (Anne Heche) enlists the expertise of spin doctor Conrad Brean (Robert De Niro), who decides a distraction is the best course of action. Brean approaches Hollywood producer Stanley Motss (Dustin Hoffman) to help him fabricate a war in Albania -- and once underway, the duo has the media entirely focused on the war."

Chupacabra-322's picture

What people don't understand is, that the Russian PsyOp / False Narrative Script by the Deep State & Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Psychopath Hillary Clinton Globalist was the game plan all long.

Win, stolen or lost. They were going & are going "all in" with the PsyOp, Scripted False Narrative of Russia hacking the Elections / Russia / Putin / Trump Propaganda gone full retard via the Deep States Opeatives in the Presstitute Media.

Plausible Deniability is the name of the game. If the Deep State could of pulled off the False Narrative PsyOp of Russia influencing our Elections the Deep State could & will hack into Russia's National Elections next March. Call it pay back.

The Deep State's destabilization campaign in Ukraine especially Crimea was part of the ZioNeoConFascist Agenda to destabilize Russia during their upcoming elections.

Putin countered by expelling all Geroge Sorros NGO's from Russia. However, rest assured those destabilization cells are in place to ready to be activated come Russia's next election cycle.

The future meeting between the Two Super Powers will be Epic. The Diplomacy which will Prevail out of those meetings will be a fresh breath of air to the World.

And, final Death Blows to the Pure Evil Criminal Deep State Elite Compartmentalized Hierarchy.

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Chupacabra-322 ... Thanks for sharing.

You write of the most insightful comments I have every read.

Take Care ... Blessings on your week.

Shadow1275's picture

This is shocking news??? And how many wars have been fought under Dumbocrats?

Mroex's picture

Wilson (D)-- WW-I

FDR(D)------WW-II

Truman(D)---Korea

LBJ(D)-------Nam

Hmmm is this like those IQ test questions like name the next number in this series 2,4,8,16....

bruno_the's picture

Serbia, Lybia, Ukraine, Syria. 

vulcanraven's picture

I, for one (and I am sure at least 90% of the rest of the world can agree) that a conflict with Russia is a colosally BAD idea. Get these motherfuckers out of there before all of us have to pay the price for their arrogance.

Winston Churchill's picture

Just put yourself in the Russians place watching this shit.

You have to bet that at least a few Russian generals are advocating a first strike

on these rabid dogs.

vulcanraven's picture

Yeah, and I am sure they are well aware of (((who))) the culprits are, again.

Logan 5's picture
Logan 5 (not verified) vulcanraven Mar 26, 2017 7:37 PM

The Russians & Germans have already been thru it in the past century... It's migrated to America...

 

Even with Trump, Jared Kushner is the Aaron Simanovich of the day.

Smedley's picture

BINGO!

Good analysis....

These creeps want to control EVERYTHING, OR THEY WILL DESTROY what they cannot control!

:D

wangshui's picture

Please KGB, if your listening, off those stupid mother fuckers with a "car accident" or something and do us all a favor.

wangshui's picture

Please KGB, if your listening, off those stupid mother fuckers with a "car accident" or something and do us all a favor.

Occident Mortal's picture

They are sore that the Saudi candidate lost the election.

hotrod's picture

All Government officials that want war with Russia should draft their children first.

TAALR Swift's picture

That would be seen as racist, if they were forced to do that.

Toonces Feline's picture

Since by Democrat definition, the US is at war with Russia and most of the rest of the world...

Nuke 'em!  Nuke all of 'em.

 

hooligan2009's picture

by the demonrats own defintion, obama declared war on the entire planet with his hacking and data theft

VWAndy's picture

Im thinking its not going to be easy to take the Ds seriously again after they dressed up as twats. Call me old fashioned. Its like showing up at a costume party dressed as a giant prick. They aint going to invite you to the next one!

Bigly's picture

Who sat there and said, "hey, i have a great idea. Let me make a female genitalia costume.  It will sell like gangbusters."  

After all, who wouldn't want to be a pussy?

Pure Evil's picture

Unless of course, some of them dress up as vaginas.

Now if you put 535 pricks and cunts together you get the US Congress.

hooligan2009's picture

libtards hate russia/putin because he is white, male and smart - it's the worst kind of penis envy.

"suck it up pussies" and then take your war mongering hate to mosul and see how long you last in the real world you created.

StychoKiller's picture

Oh, it's worse than that, He's a Christian! (Read "Rulers of Evil")

navy62802's picture

It isn't about Russia. It is about distraction. This is all an act to pull attention away from the most serious crimes of treason and sedition that our nation has seen in its history. The events of the past 12 months are more serious and damaging than Watergate and Iran-Contra. The events that pre-ceded are even worse. Of course the party that was in power is going to pull out all the stops.

General Titus's picture

The native Orthodox Christian Russian people took their nation back from the satanic mass murdering Bolsheviks when they collapsed the Soviet Union, unfortunately for the US, Canada, Australia, & the EU, the war criminal Bolsheviks, and their descendents came into those nations and morphed into the Cultural marxist liberal Conservatives and Democrats and are the ones not only pushing for war with Orthodox Christian controlled Russia, but are pushing in the Muslim & Turd world immigration invasions to destroy western civilization itself. These Bolshevik descendents are better known to most goyim as "Red Diaper Babies" and they need to be ethnically cleansed from the planet

Yars Revenge's picture

I wonder just who it is behind the scenes telling our scumbag politicians to up the hostility against Russia?

Who are these losers getting their marching orders from?

It sure as hell isn't he American people, who are by and large completely opposed to a war with Russia.

 

LOL123's picture

Follow the money trail... Key words to look for are-

1- foundation

2- peace initatives

3- international

4- council

That should keep you busy for awhile.

TAALR Swift's picture

See 6:59 pm post from General Titus for clues. 

scraping_by's picture

The Dems lost the last national election and most of the local elections because their platform was globalization and identity politics. Now, it's globalization, identity politics, and war with Russia. This may play big in Washington, and given the size of the media footprint it's supposed to play big in the world, but the rest of the country isn't falling for it.

I keep wondering if this self-destruction is deliberate. Whether the sell out to Big Money in the early 90's by Big Dog and his crew wasn't enough, whether the billionaires were Hillary's fervent backers because it alienated people from the party of The New Deal. Conspiracy, true, but not impossible.

LOL123's picture

militarism has almost always ( until recently)been associated (by the left) with right wingers, fascism ( and communism) in countless countries, but the mirror has changed focus and now it is the left progressives pushing hard for war.... The single word ( war that is) scribbled on the wall in Skull and Bones room.

Skull and bones as we recall was formed by a secret society from Europe.

These little red dressed Feminazis once a month club are serving their masters well and the emasculated Democrat males follow their lead...their down fall is inevitable.

Twee Surgeon's picture

Skull and Bones is just Code for Jesuit, they love all that secret club stuff. They can do anything they like and the Pope will forgive them if it's for the cause.

Look it up. Buggery and Bomings are your fault. they are just trying to help.

Boomberg's picture

Putin has already stated in the next war US cities will not be spared. Even if somehow the US comes out on top, there won't be anything left to live for.

Umh's picture

Maxine is still trying to find Gonorrhea on a map.

moorewasthebestbond's picture

Gomorrah is on the Potomac. The place you're talking about his somewhere and backwater Ukraine.

Pure Evil's picture

Just direct her to the nearest mirror.

cat-foodcafe's picture

Maxine is just so much more than stupid.  She sounds like someone has [a Hebrew physician,no doubt] lobotomized her a while back.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a-history-of-the-lobotomy

Ice pick lobotomies were in vogue in the early 1950's.....note the Kennedy sister who was never seen by anyone.  She got it.

Another monstrous creation of the Hebrew World, to which these worse than stupid Libtards, Dems, armchair warmongers, and the likes of pedophile David Brock associate with, in order to form a more-perfect Slave World for their pedo masters.

All this stupid "Putin did it" shit will NOT stop until about 1000 of these traitorous pedo-turds are hanging on phone/power poles for everyone to see on the nightly network news.  It would be too big a story to ignore.  Even Scott Pelley would have palpitations over that one.

moorewasthebestbond's picture

These bitchez can't even succeed with their well funded proxy war in Kiev. It's fucking over in Ukraine!

 

Do you expect me to believe these pansies could go toe-to-toe with the Russian bear?

roadhazard's picture

At the rate Pootin is killing his own people all we need to do is wait until he's the only one left and give him a special olympics award.

WTFUD's picture

Are you McCain's butt wipe?