China May Import Its Workers To Canada As It Seeks "Total Access" To Canadian Market

Tyler Durden's picture

China’s ambassador to Canada, Lu Shaye, told the Globe and Mail that Beijing is seeking full access to Canada’s economy ahead of free trade talks, a move that could result in Chinese state-owned companies bringing their own employees to work on projects in Canada. Charles Burton, an associate political science professor at Brock University, said bringing their own workers abroad is “normal practice” for Chinese companies. “It’s not as if [the Chinese] would be asking something of Canada that they don’t expect from other countries,” he said.

Earlier this year, Canadian and Chinese officials held exploratory talks on a free trade deal and another meeting is set to take place this month,  Lu told the Globe, just as the US prepares to renegotiate NAFTA with Canada and Mexico.

Lu said that his government wants to avoid discussions of human rights issues, fearing it could become a “bargaining chip” in negotiations. Additionally, anticipating what has become an increasingly regular response by sovereign governments to China's money-laundering disguised as M&A ambitions, the ambassador said China's government would interpreted any attempt by Ottawa to block takeovers of Canadian companies on national security grounds as protectionism.

“Investment is investment. We should not take too much political considerations into the investment,” he said. “Just like the negotiations of the (Canada-U.S.) FTA, we should not let political factors into this process. Otherwise, it would be very difficult.”

Meanwhile, Canada's ambassador to China, John McCallum, told the CBC that Prime Minister Justin Trudeau "is very clear that we want to pursue stronger ties with China. We think that in the medium term this will lead to more Canadian jobs."


Canada's ambassador to China, John McCallum, says a trade deal with China is

a priority for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

While China has recently pushed to adopt the mantle of the "world's biggest defender of free trade" following Trump's threats to impose protectionist measures, and has been among the most vocal countries in response to Trump's proposed trade practices, critics say the country is itself a bastion of protectionism. They note China allows almost no foreign investment in banking and telecommunications. Many argue the country has not lived up to the commitments it made to open up its economy when it joined the World Trade Organization in 2001.

China’s interest in Canada lies primarily in energy, and in the possibility of exploiting Canada’s oilsands. The country will push for a reversal of Harper government-era policies that restricted the ability of Chinese state-owned businesses to invest in Canadian energy.

As Daniel Tencer writes, the vast majority of China’s largest corporations are state-run enterprises whose executives are often hand-picked by government. They also note that China’s notion of “full access” to an economy could be very broad. As the foreign policy blog OpenCanada notes, China’s 2015 free trade deal with Australia includes a provision that allows Chinese companies to bring their own employees into the country to work on projects, so long as those projects are worth more than AUD$150 million.

With the specter of being displaced from their jobs by imported Chinese workers, opinion polls suggest Canadians are split on the issue of free trade with China. One poll carried out for the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada last August found 46% support for a deal with China, and the same percentage opposed. However, that was a stronger showing than a poll six months earlier, which showed only 36-per-cent support for a China trade deal at that time.

Canadians were much more likely to support free trade deals with more developed economies, such as the European Union, Japan and Australia.

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knukles's picture

How's this working out for you, Justin?

Looney's picture

It’s time for Canada to change its name. Which one is better?

<<<   Cachina

<<<   Chinada

Looney   ;-)

Harlequin001's picture

Just print a trillion Yuan and buy Canada.

Then tell Canada they can buy it back only with a gold backed currency and that you'll write it off or let them have it all back in exchange for their worthless paper if you can install your own government.

The politicians weren't traitorous at all and did really well for the country.

Not a shot was fired!

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Donald Trump (not verified) Harlequin001 Apr 2, 2017 11:44 AM

Canada is shit. So is China. Only America is awesome.

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Dyler_Turden's picture

Canada becoming China's bitch.

Priceless. 

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Donald Trump (not verified) Dyler_Turden Apr 2, 2017 12:15 PM

Indeed. And besides chinks, Canada will get our spics running from my posse ICE

We're showing them who's boss. Taking care of all 3 of them (with Mexico) now that NAFTA and TTIP are going to the trash and our wall is going to be tremendous.

You are gonna see an America like never before !

 

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Four chan's picture

trudeau is a globalist fuck boy like obama, i wonder if canada's

press sold him as hard as they tried with hillary here. oh those jews.

Stuck on Zero's picture

China will sign up to any and all trade deals. It will honor none.

poeg's picture

Canada's press IS nada but lefties. What sold Trudeau was TPP and shithead Harper not telling us what was in the thing. What a twat.

 

As for the Chinese, they want natural recources like Potash and to mine it themselves, period. Be no where near as many jobs nor the tax from nonrenewable resources that Trudea thinks he'll get his grubbies on from the Chinese.

 

Canada, the ultimate land of opportunity where even the paint eating kid from Spec Ed can become Prime Minister... all we can hope for is he chases his favourite ball into traffic.

consider me gone's picture

I thought you were Hillary Clinton,

Lanka's picture

The China SOEs export their workers to hundreds of projects in Asia, Middle East, Apfrica and South America.  Just add Canada to the list.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Canada is a Pearl of Small Price.

- Not a Pearl of Great Price.

Canadian National Budget

http://www.fin.gc.ca/fiscmon-revfin/pdf/2014-09-eng.pdf

Elderly benefits 2014 = $21.5 Billion
Children's benefits 2014 = $6.4 Billion

Canada Health Transfer 2014 = $16 Billion
Canada Social Transfer 2014 = $6.3 Billion

You have to pull older data to see the Trends.

2014 Canada Total Income Tax revenue = $82 Billion
2014 Canada Total Excise & Duties Tax revenue = $24 Billion

Employment Insurance premiums = $11.3 B
Other revenues = $13.1 B

$130.4 Billion total in 2014.
$120.7 Billion Canadian Program Expenses 2014

Interest on Debt Canada 2014 = $14.6 Billion
Revenues for Canada 2014 = $125 Billion
Deficit = $18 Billion

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Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Trudeau is just the SOB to sell out the Canadians. Think of how well the Chinese would react to a Canadian firm wanting to "import" all of its top workers into China. Are the Chinese firms going to pay the Chinese help Canadian prevailing wages or are they going to have so sort of sham arrangement with their imported help?

Trudeau is going to turn the Canadians into the same types of whores English women have become. Serves them right for electing his altruist-collectivist ass.

SRV's picture

Canada has the same masters as America... but, because of Canadian Lobby Laws, they can be much less visible and have no need for a massive public org in order to intimidate all of the lawmakers.

It's done in discrete meetings with the power brokers... all very civilized and proper!

Trudeau was the answer for Harper (as O was for Bush) in order to continue the program while appeasing the masses who were beginning to resent ALL of the money going to the corporate class... time to put a "progressive" veneer on the wealth extraction.

Trump... the result of idiots running the ground game and getting much too clever for their own good. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving crowd... who seem to be having a complete public meltdown (but hey, the snowflake ratings are through the roof (comfort food for the butt-hurt)!

MEFOBILLS's picture

“Investment is investment. We should not take too much political considerations into the investment,” he said. “Just like the negotiations of the (Canada-U.S.) FTA, we should not let political factors into this process. Otherwise, it would be very difficult.”

This whole affair is retarded.  Investment is not just investments.  There are different kinds of investments with differing outputs.

 The Chinese have nothing that the Canadians cannot invent or do themselves. Politicians don't understand economics.

All countries that are sovereign, can issue their own money, and put their people to work.

Investment of new knowledge or special capability is not something that China has to offer.  And even if they did, Canada could raid Chinese industry and academia (pay the scholars to come to Canada, for a period of time), then pass that knowledge into Canadian hands.

Using Chinese labor on Candian soil is an extra insult, implying that Canadian labor is incompetent.

TheSilentMajority's picture

You mean Chinadastan?

The "looney" is also now referred to as the Chinadastan Turkee.

Paper Mache's picture

Chinada sounds like a great name. Stupid Canadians. There will be  big conflict between the Muslims, Mexicans,  and the Chinks. Build a Northern wall

justyouwait's picture

Trudeau has a real conundrum on his hands. I am sure it was not what he expected when he came to power. What is a boy king to do? So many suitors for the country. Who to give it to? He has been hell bent on turning it over to the Muslims and with the population having been almost totally indoctrinated into being ultra politically correct it was becoming a simple task. Just get a motion through parliment that seeks to set up some basis for a law that will outlaw Islamophobia (Motion M103). The neat trick is to not identify what that term means so you (the government) can frame it later. Next get the lap dog media to start framing the definition of Islamophobia for you by how they identify the few citizens who truly understand what is going on and try to draw it to public attention. I am sure the payoff for the boy king and his court is considerable and it is such an easy sell to the gullible Canadian public.

Now, along comes China, also wanting to usurp control. A much harder sell to the overall Canadian public because of a historic suspicion of the Chinese communist system and how they have ran it over the years. A much higher payout expected by the boy king and his court however. If only they could split the country between the two groups. Big problem is the Chinese won't roll over for the Muslims. They push back and won't allow them to subvert their system.

Well, I am sure the boy king will give it all away to whoever gives him and his court the biggest personal benefit. This could get interesting as one comes at it from an economic angle while the other trys to usurp from the socio-political side. Maybe the boy king can have his cake and eat it too. I am sure when he is done, he & his cronies will be living the high life in some tropical retreat for the uber wealthy while the rest of the population (made up of the idiots that voted him in and those who saw what was coming but couldn't escape) have to live through the fallout.

The idiot Trudeau can't give away the country fast enough. His handlers will achieve their ultimate goal while he & his cronies come out smelling like a rose. He is only concerned about his own well being and continuing the family legacy that was began by his old man (the guy that gave us a Constitution that 1/3 of the population refused to vote on or accept).

Some on here talk about building a northern wall. I would seriously consder it if I were Trump.

GuyBaker76's picture

No kidding he'll need a wall to protect America from the insanity moving through Canada.

These idiots are the very same loons who just voted against FREE SPEECH with an anti "Islamophobia" Motion heading for a new Law.

Meanwhile, Canadians slumber in Apathy.

TeethVillage88s's picture

NAU - North American Union with Amero.

Who's Your Hero?
Who's Your President?
Who's Your Buddy?
How Many PACs, Foundations, Wealthy Elites, and Foreign Agents do we have in the USA?

There is like 1 Banker per 16,000 US Citizens... so I'm thinking the Bankers will win over citizens!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_monetary_union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Paneuropean_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paneuropean_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Europe

PT's picture

Cachina - because it is closer to Ca-ching!

HRClinton's picture

CHINODOMY for CANCHISTAN.

When Canadians get sodomized by small but many penises.

Don't it make your brown eye blue? 

OccamsCrazor's picture

i thought it was muslimville.

TeethVillage88s's picture

Splay legged Dogs, goats, sheep... new Canadian Export/Industry.

"In his book «Praktischer Idealismus», (1920) Austrian Count Richard Von Coudenhove Kalergi indicates that the residents of the future "United States of Europe" will not be the People of the Old Continent, but a kind of sub-humans, products of miscegenation. He clearly states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and colored races, thus creating a multinational flock with no quality and easily controlled by the ruling elite.

Ignatius's picture

The whole f#cking world needs to make a trip to the grip store.

These trade policies that import foreign workers make zero sense in terms of preserving community, which is probably the point.  That's where the evidence leads, anyway.

knukles's picture

Globalization at it's finest.
Next the Muzzies are gonna demand resettlement to New Zealand to manufacture cornholed sheep.

ebworthen's picture

Gives "Manchurian Candidate" a whole new meaning.

Will the imported Chinese start playing hockey, or will the Canadians start eating cats?

TeethVillage88s's picture

Cats & Dogs. I heard dog is pretty good.

Cat Food or Dog Food in a can? Aye, there is the question. Stick with the Domestic pet food IMHO!

HRClinton's picture

Eating cats? A little pussy never hurt anyone. 

SoDamnMad's picture

Canada, you are so screwed.  Your new masters will mandate you learn Mandarin and drop the French or be banished to the Artic Circle. 

Chris88's picture

Every person under 35 in China speaks fluent English.

Xena fobe's picture

But they insist on using Chinese in the US and forcing US children to learn Chinese because language equals culture.

Chris88's picture

Every Chinese person I have ever worked with has good English, both speaking and writing.  Most of them know the difference between they're/their/there unlike most people here.  I can get aorund most parts of China speaking English (mainland, not counting HK which is even easier).  

Lost in translation's picture

It's very rare that I ever label anyone but in this instance I'm compelled to make an exception: you're a brazen liar.

I'm up to my elbows in Chinese university undergrads and the SOLE reason I'm employed where I am is because their English is atrocious. They cannot read or write at the Third Grade level. The only reason they gain admission at all is because the entire UC system has devolved into a state-run racket, and they pay international student-rate tuition. Better qualified Americans are rejected.

Your claim about about English in HK is also dog excrement. I live in east Asia in the summer and spend extended time in HK, where I bank and invest. The level of English proficiency in Hong Kong has steadily been trending down, year after year, for the past 20 years.

Peddle your fables somewhere else, Champ.

Chris88's picture

I guess you deal with idiots, nobody I've ever been employed for has hired anyone or itnerviewed anyone who had any trouble with English.  Same goes for undergrad/business school, never had this issue in the slightest, but then again I didn't go to garbage schools.  I've also never had any issue with English in HK except for the cab drivers.  Peddle your clamoring for mommy government to manage the economy elsehwere, clown.

Lost in translation's picture

Non sequiter.

You are a brazen liar, and it's patently obvious.

Chris88's picture

Stick to teaching English, pissant. You're lucky they generally hire morons who don't have a real job to teach English, what an awesome career.  LOL, what a loser.  

IntTheLight's picture

I've interviewed Chinese with masters degree from American Universities. English horrible which made me question our education system. Are they buying grades? Is it a racket?

Suffice it to say, never hired a Chinese student. Language and communication is essential in the workplace. And I assume they are buying tests as you can't get through school if you can't read the language or understand your teachers.

Chris88's picture

May I ask what industry you work in and where the degrees are typically from (don't need specific schools just an idea on how they rank)?

Kayman's picture

Chris.

You obviously travel in a very tight circle. Engrish is tough. Now go eat your Lice Klispies.

Chris88's picture

No, just a circle where I don't deal with idiots.  The bank I was at for many years never hired idiots who couldn't present themselves intelligently to an English speaking audience.  The same went for my colleges undergrad/busienss school, where they were not accepting students with garbage scores on the English proficiency exams.  Being at US equity focused hedge fund now we don't have a need to hire them, but at the bank it was beneficial when we 1) wanted to solicit Asian businss 2) engage parties regarding potential cross-border M&A.  Just because certain people like the English teacher above interact primarily with dolts and people that do not need to present themselves in a respectable light in a serious business setting does not mean it's the norm.