Democrats Have Enough Votes To Block Gorsuch Nomination, "Nuclear" Showdown Inevitable

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As we previewed last Friday when Senator Clair McCaskill's "No" decision was seen by many "whip counts" as the decisive "final" vote, moments ago Senate Democrats clinched enough support to block Neil Gorsuch's nomination to the Supreme Court, in the process setting up what now appears an inevitable "nuclear" showdown over Senate rules later this week.

The threshold was passed when Sen. Chris Coons  announced on Monday that he will oppose President Trump's pick on a procedural vote where he will need the support of eight Democrats to cross a 60-vote threshold. Coons became the 41st Democrat to back the filibuster.

“Throughout this process, I have kept an open mind … I have decided that I will not support Judge Gorsuch’s nomination," Coons said quoted by The Hill. "I am not ready to end debate on this issue. So I will be voting against cloture," Coons said, absent a deal to avoid the nuclear option.

After Coons' decision, unless one of the 41 Democrats change their vote, the filibuster of Gorsuch will be sustained in a vote later this week.

More details from The Hill:

Gorsuch's path to overcoming a filibuster closed on Monday after Democratic Sens. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Patrick Leahy (Vt.) and Mark Warner (Va.) each announced they would oppose Gorsuch's nomination. Only four Democratic senators have said they will support President Trump's pick on the initial vote: Sens. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), Joe Donnelly (Ind.), Joe Manchin (W.Va.) and Sen. Michael Bennet (Colo.). 

 

Heitkamp, Donnelly and Manchin are each up for reelection in states carried by Trump in the 2016 election. Bennet — who won reelection last year — has been under a microscope because of Gorsuch's ties to Colorado, and didn't specify that he would vote for the nominee during a final vote.

Having been "under a mountain of pressure" from liberal outside groups to block Gorsuch's nomination, Democrats predictably caved. "Progressives argue that voting for his nomination — even on a procedural vote — helps enable President Trump and is out of line with what the base of the party wants. With Democrats now able to block Gorsuch's nomination, Republicans are expected to change the rules to circumvent the filibuster."

The most likely next step is the Republican use of the nuclear option (previewed earlier), and although GOP leadership hasn't specifically said they will use the "nuclear option,"  GOP senators appear resigned to lowering the threshold for Supreme Court nominations. Republicans have been quick to note that Democrats, then led by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), used the nuclear option in 2013  to lower the confirmation threshold for lower court judges and executive nominees.

"If we have to, we will change the rules, and it looks like we're going to have to," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said during the Senate Judiciary Committee's meeting on Gorsuch's nomination. "I hate that. I really, really do." 

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the No. 2 Senate Republican and a member of the committee, added that Gorsuch will be confirmed by the end of the week.  “If they're going to oppose Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court of the United States, they will never vote and never support a nominee of this President," he said. 

 

With the Judiciary Committee expected to clear Gorsuch's nomination on Monday, a full Senate vote is expected by the end of the week.

 

Graham compared Democratic complaints to "arsonist complaining about the fire."

For a longer take of how the GOP's use of the nuclear option could transform the Senate, please read the following preview.

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FrozenGoodz's picture

Somebody explained to Trump this isn't an actual bomb right?

 

Invisioning him barging into the hearing with briefcase in tow

NidStyles's picture

Keep burning that political capital leftists. ;-)

Ghost of PartysOver's picture

Whodathunkit.  McConnel actually may have a backbone.   I bet Bohner is still weeping tangerine tears.

GUS100CORRINA's picture

It is a tragedy that the vote for a well qualified individual has come to this point.

My opinion of the DEMOCRATIC DESPOTS with REPROBATE MINDS has sunk to a new all time low.

It is time for ACTION and President TRUMP needs to take the gloves off.

The behavior of many DEMOCRATS on the Judiciary Committee is awful and evil.

This is not about Freedom of Speech anymore, this is DEMONIC.

froze25's picture

With the ouster of Susan Rice as the un-masker, the on going arrest of the pedophile networks across the country (totally under reported) it looks like the Dem's time may be coming.

erkme73's picture

I'm guessing the Repubs won't have the spine to use the nuclear option.  They're great at huffing and puffing in opposition, but when the time comes to stand up for something positive, the fold like a wet paper bag.   

Bryan's picture

Be careful what you hope for.  Would you give the same power to the Dems too, then?

nmewn's picture

Harry Reid already used it at the lower level.

Fuck em, this is war.

Bryan's picture

It's war, but you don't hand over your weapons to the enemy either.

Ghost of Porky's picture

Will the Dems filibuster by reading from the Comet PingPong menu?

nmewn's picture

Harry Reid was warned when he changed the rules not to do it.  He let it be known then he didn't give a shit about tradition,  decorum or rules.

He set the precedent, he got Obama nominee's stuffed through anyway he could.

He made the damned weapon and if McConnell doesn't use it we should run his ass out of there for either being an idiot or a pussy...makes no difference.

You've got to quit thinking of these people as our equals, they will stab you in the back in New York second, they are scum.

BarkingCat's picture

Exactly. I remember commenting back then how this was going to bite them in the ass in the future.

However those idiots lack foresight and impulse control. 

 

My advise to the republicans would be to force the democrats to do an actual filibuster. 

Make them speak nonstop for at least a week. 

Always have 2 republicans in the chamber and be ready to vote whenever the dems go silent.

 

Then pull the nomination and submit someone that will make the democrats regret that they played this game.

Put someone like 30 year old Michael Savage on there.

 

These asshole dems got 3 absolute left wing cunts on there and none of them should be a district court judge, never mind supreme.

nmewn's picture

If they don't they're dead meat. The only reason a lot of people sucked it up & voted for Trump is because of the courts and what they would look like after four years of Hillary. 

Time for McConnell to put on his big boy pants or go home. 

Smedley's picture

They had BETTER win this one, they will look positively incapable if they don't....

The_Juggernaut's picture

The filibuster was meant to be used by responsible adults. It's time has clearly passed. Just do away with it already.

SimmerDown's picture

froze 25: totally under reported because, like the Russia did it narrative, it's made up nonesense. Help us out here and link to a police of Feds arrest story pertaining to this "network." 

crossroaddemon's picture

Take the gloves off and do what, exactly? POTUS has no control over this process.

JRobby's picture

They can go much lower and have. More will be revealed.

We need tribunals. Mass processing trials so they can jail them all.

TheObsoleteMan's picture

"Well Qualified" indeed. Remember that the Jewess Kagan HAD NEVER TRIED A CASE IN HER LIFE when she was nominated and confirmed as an associate judge of SCOTUS.

Darktarra's picture

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/312540-schumer-regrets-dems-triggerin...  <-- Schumer did the nuclear option in 2013 and back in the early 2000's with the Clearance Thomas nominaton. 

TwelveOhOne's picture

Nice "Airplane" reference -- "We have clearance, Clarence."  "Roger, Roger.  What's the vector, Victor?"

Pairadimes's picture

This is a perfect example of the power of a relentlessly biased media. In an earlier era, a SCOTUS candidate like Gorsuch would have been easily confirmed, because he would have been too clearly qualified for the role, the public would have known that, and the politicians would have been more cautious. Today, Democrats can almost fearlessly play pure party politics with everything regardless of merit, because they know the fifth column in the fourth estate has their back.

froze25's picture

Not to mention that their rank and file Dems are basically zombies at this point. Welfare Queens, Trannies or Feminazis. Its like a coalition of the mental defects.

spastic_colon's picture

what do you mean "it's like"?

FrozenGoodz's picture

If only the GOP would've allowed a vote on Garland ... could have avoided all this crying

JRobby's picture

Seems so clear the way you say it and I sure see it for a long time now.

I fear for about half of the population in the USA that were let down by the education systm and never had the motivation to educate themselve. They are literally doomed.

Beowulf55's picture

Now explain to me why Demothugs want to vote against someone who supports and defends the Constitution?

Are they wanting to destroy this country and the Constitution?

Seems a llittle like treason to me. 

Do they shoot or hang traitors?  I can't remember...

MFL5591's picture

Dispicable scumbags who bankrupt America passing judgement on this fine man.  Go nunclear and shove it in Lehays ass where he likes it best!

LawsofPhysics's picture

"pull it" already...

clade7's picture

Right?  At this point, for the average Man on the street...."What Difference does it make?"

HerrDoktor's picture

scram the sons of bitches

Yen Cross's picture

   Drop the bomb, so we can move forward. Nuke the Demotards.

JustPrintMoreDuh's picture

Nuke the swamp, and all the beasts in it.

gregga777's picture

In another epic performance, President Donald Trump prepares to stomp on the DimmoMarxist cockroaches in the Senate.  It's the season for stomping on cockroaches.  They can run but they can't hide.

ROTFLMAO

Dancing Disraeli's picture

Gorsuch is CFR.  I don't trust him, and I hope the turtle doesn't grow a pair until after this one goes belly-up.

Winston Churchill's picture

This is irrational.

Anybody thinking the debt ceiling vote is a forgone conclusion,at this point, is also irrational.

Another step closer to civil war 2.0

darkstar7646's picture

What some of you want, and, frankly, a good number of Republicans need, is for this to go "hot".

Winston Churchill's picture

I've been caught in uprisings a couple of times.They seem to follow me around.

Just lucky I guess.

The hairs on my nape are telling me where this is going.

Consuelo's picture

 

 

 Despite all the Cassandra from David Stockman a few days back, March 15th sorta came & went - although he did point to the June timeframe as the 'don't-move-or-the N!gger-gets-it moment, so there's that.   In reality though, what are the real chances of anything besides a 1 - 2 week Grandstanding event...? 

Winston Churchill's picture

There is nobody left to compimise.

It may well be different this  time.

divingengineer's picture

Unless they have a good reason why would they blow their wad trying to screw this guy?
I don't think they're going to get a better nominee than this. If they filibuster it the Republicans should come back with an absolute conservative lunatic and use the nuclear option to confirm him.
Every time they pull the childish bullshit they should turn it right back around and stick it in their ass.

Ramesees's picture

It's the only way they'll learn.  Seriously.

 

Jim Geraghty said it right: "When Democrats are in power they think they'll never be out of power again.  And when they're out of power, they never think they'll be in power again."

Democrats are short term/immediate reward people.  It's why they're Democrats in the first place.  

TwelveOhOne's picture

Yep, they're the grasshoppers to the rest of us' ants.

WeR138's picture

This is exactly what needs to happen.  If Dems aren't literally crying before the "nuclear option" gets used, somebody is not doing their job right!

BarkingCat's picture

That is my advice to the republicans,  but first I would force the democrats to actually doma real filibuster. 

They have not had to do one of these in a long time. Right now a mere declaration of the intent to filibuster has the same effect as an actual filibuster. 

I say the republicans force them to hold the floor and talk none stop forbat least a week.

Then pull this nomination and replace it with someone who is lunatic right and nuclear option that person in.

The Wizard's picture

Gorsuch is correct about this not being a good precedent. However, who established the nuclear option precedent. Creating new rules to override old rules is the new normal. How do most of these morons get into office. My theory the more the banksters can blackmail one with the better chances one has for getting their support.