Mass Exodus: 1 Million People Have Ditched New York Since 2010

Tyler Durden's picture

The folks of New York City seem to be slowly waking up to the fact that there are a whole lot of places to live in between America's two shores that cost a lot less money, enjoy much better weather and don't tax their citizens to death.  According to the latest data from the United States Census Bureau, the New York area has lost a total of nearly 1 million residents to domestic migration in just the past 6 years alone.

Of course, if you listen to the Empire Center for Public Policy research, the mass exodus isn't related to the Big Apple's excessive cost of living or ridiculous tax structure but rather is just a symptom of the improving economy.  Per the New York Post:

The number of people leaving the region — which includes parts of New Jersey, Connecticut, the lower Hudson Valley and Long Island — in one year swelled from 187,034 in 2015 to 223,423 in 2016, while the number of international immigrants settling in the tristate area dwindled from 181,551 to 160,324 over the same period, records show.

 

The nation’s economy is improving, there are more jobs in cheaper places to live, and retirees are choosing to move to warmer climates, experts say.

 

“The historical trend is that out-migration grows when the economy is getting better,” said Empire Center for Public Policy research director E.J. McMahon.

 

“As the economy gets better, there are more jobs outside the region and by the same token . . . more people to buy your house if you’re a baby boomer looking to move to Boca Raton or Myrtle Beach.”

Not surprisingly, Chicago saw the 2nd highest outflow of people followed closely by Los Angeles. 

Moreover, in another 'complete shock', the people ditching NYC, Chicago and LA in record numbers are flocking to Texas and Arizona where they can enjoy sunshine 350 days a year, cheap housing and substantially lower tax rates. 

Manhattan

 

And while San Francisco hasn't shown up on the 'biggest loser' list just yet, as we reported last week, a growing number of snowflake millennials are saying they can no longer stand to live in the preeminent American 'safe space' because the "rent is too damn high", the traffic is too damn congested and, well, President Trump.  According to a new poll conducted by the Bay Area Council, 40% of all people living in San Francisco say they're ready to ditch the city for greener pastures while the number is even higher among millennials at 46%.

A growing number of Bay Area residents, led by millennials (18-39), are looking to greener (or less expensive) pastures as the region’s housing and traffic crises combined with an astronomical cost of living take their toll, according to results of the 2017 Bay Area Council Poll released today. The poll found that 40 percent of respondents are considering leaving the Bay Area in the next few years, with millennials leading the way at 46 percent, along with those who spend the biggest share of their income on housing.

 

“Losing our youth is a very bad economic and social strategy,” said Jim Wunderman, President and CEO of the Bay Area Council. “But until we get serious about building the housing we need we’re going to continue seeing our region drained of the young and diverse talent that has helped make the Bay Area an economic powerhouse. We know what the solutions are – streamline local approval and reduce fees and regulatory costs – we just need the political will here and in Sacramento to make them happen. It can be done, it must be done and we’re working now to get it done.”

Meanwhile, the number of people saying they're looking to ditch the city jumped 6 points versus 2016.

San Fran

 

Of course, housing and traffic were the most cited reasons that people were looking leave San Fran.  But, in a rather surprising new addition to the list of complaints, President Trump also showed up as a key threat to life in the Bay Area.  Perhaps, the snowflakes of California's northern shores aren't aware that even if they move elsewhere in the country that President Trump would still be their president?

San Fran

Guess spending $1.2 million on those 600 square foot studio apartments gets old after a while...

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Colonel Klink's picture

Keep them there.  I don't want a pouring out of liberal shitheads like Commiefornia infecting the rest of the nation.  While we're at it, wall off Shitcongo too.

just the tip's picture

that gets an upvote for sure.

ParkAveFlasher's picture

Six-year-old data, "NYC" including NJ, Conn, Long Island, and lower Hudson Valley.  Put the meme out of its misery, Tyler.

Let's keep in mind that I highly doubt the massive amounts of investment the likes of Trump hold in NYC would be abandoned soon. 

It ain't SF, it ain't Chicago.

 

Mr Blue's picture
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new game's picture

cant stop it, like a disease(lib tardedness), it is spreading. fuked up cities and counting. austin, vegas to name two.

No_More's picture

Before I left Houston (2003) Austin was becoming it's far-flung exurb with an extra side of wacky weird liberalism and even more traffic and overpriced housing. Don't even want to think how foobar both of are now almost 15 years later.

curbjob's picture

I'll take the other side;

Most of the people I know who left New York city were never from there in the first place and, often returned to the region they were originally from.

They moved there because they wanted to advance their careers, which is indicative of a work ethic that travels with them.

Of course,  ^this^ is as much a generalization as is your comment. 

 

new game's picture

productive class leaves, tax base shrinks, free shitters stay to milk the cow dry...

halfasleep's picture

i can concur with the general sense of this generalization. it seems like the folks that *didn't* leave NYC to start their family elsewhere and chose to start it there (which didn't happen in the 80s, 90s), are now dealing with aging parents back home, middle school/high school for kids, and a clear top in real estate prices. so some are cashing out. i call it the park slope corollary.

Southside Stacker's picture

We left California in 2015 though I happen to be a Conservative Shithead.  In fact my political viewpoint was one of the motivators.  But the most important were cost of living and taxation.  So we sold our way-overpriced home and left the San Francisco Bay Area grinning all the way to the bank.  Another motivator was the traffic congestion.  Gridlock every morning and every afternoon of every work day and often on weekends.  I spoke to my brother the other night and asked him about our old hometown where he still resides.  He says it has gotten worse, much worse.  I, on the other hand, am much happier.  There are a few things I miss, like the Wine Country and Mt. Diablo but would never go back, not in a million years.

alphamentalist's picture

This has everything to do with DingleBarry and Yellanke destroying the market economy (which a large percent of New Yorkers either pretended to participate in, or made a living by catering to the pretenders). Hell, even the talented faction of the street has largely given up. There is nothing left but printed money juicing robots. Why pay NY rent to watch the end of that shit show?

you enjoy myself's picture

But you can see a Broadway play every night of the week! After you lose 50% of your earnings to taxes, pay $20 for a 6-pack, lose 2 hours of your life a day to traffic, and consider Central Park to be a natural wonder.

Blank Reg's picture

Reports are coming in that the exodus from Manhattan is being led by mysterious figure named: "Snake Plissken".

   ( Huh? I heard he was dead )

pitz's picture

The foreigners have flooded in, particularly H-1Bs in the financial sector.  Pushing Americans out. 

Bobbyrib's picture

Someone has to write those brilliant trading algos. /sarcasm

 

It will be glorious to watch those same algos creating flash crashes during the next correction.

Clock Crasher's picture

Commuting into or out of Manhattan during normal business hours takes HOURS car OR subway. Still over populated. Poor are priced out and trust fund babies move in. The city is ancient and in constant disrepair. Years ago a freak micro burst brought down trees. A section of Grand Central Parkway closed because a down tree killed a motorist. The side streets were in complete stand still flooded with traffic from everyone forced off the highway and onto local roads. I drove in the opposite lane and tried other side streets. Those were also blocked with down trees. Took hours to move two miles. Some subways stop thirty times if its a locsl train. You want to take a subway from brooklyn to queens? Thats nice but you have to subway into Manhatten in the opposite direction first. With doom and gloom on the horizon you don't want to live there.. unless you can get to a chopper. Also major demographic shift in full effect.

 

Look at Brooklyn and Queens on Google Earth.

"URBAN DEATH MAZE"

-Homer Simpson

Bobbyrib's picture

Another problem is a lot of problem seem to like the good old drive up the east coast. Come witness the overcrowdedness of the east coast where you too can sit in traffic for hours on end, because our scum fuck politicians can't tell developers to go fuck themselves every once in a while.

No_More's picture

I-95, whoo boy. We see not a lot of traffic on our nearby I-81 save truckers who go out of their way to avoid 95 as much as they can to get their loads to places served by 95, so much so that a good indicator for me of how well retail is doing is how many 18 wheelers are on 81.

Lately the truck traffic is coming to resemble 2008-2009, i.e. lighter and lighter. Retail apocalypse 2.0 for sure.

scoutshonor's picture

Many reasons to get out of large cities.  Leading reason:

To prevent being burned to death on the day the EBT cards go dark and the city burns down.

If you're not out already--what is wrong with you?

Clock Crasher's picture

For everyone in Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island...Better have a plan to cross the long Island north shore bay to get to Connecticut.  or try to cross the east river from Astoria into uptown... but then you need to somehow cross the Hudson as well to get to main land America. Assuming bridges are a no go.

Lose Lose

just the tip's picture

my advice to people living in big cities.  i.e., big cities in this case having a population of larger than 500(five hundred).

stay where you are.  don't leave.

you are better off where you are.

stay in your city.  it is your city.  stay there.  don't even consider leaving.  stay there.  it is wonderful there.  you can trust me.

snr-moment's picture

wisconsin is bitter cold, dark, windy.  It rains a lot.  There's nothing to do here.  It's crowded.  Housing is overpriced.  There are no jobs.  Public education sucks.

 

just trying to help

Bobbyrib's picture

Don't worry for us east coasters Wisconsin is not on the radar. Wisconsin is the next Kansas. Walker, the next Governor Brokeback.. Unless the reports of middle class republicans beginning to act negatively towards cuts to public education and it affecting the quality of education is a lie of course. If I lived there and had kids, you better believe where I lived would depend upon how good the private school I wanted my children to attend would be.

BGO's picture

Come the real exodus, who's going to rent all of bloomberg's $2500/mo 75 sq ft micro apartments? Who remembers THAT huge real estate scam? Perpetrated by a former mayor no less! Unbelievable.

Sanity Bear's picture

I ditched NYC in 2004... went to DC.

Ditched DC in 2013... went to a place that ain't going to be anything like NYC or DC ever in my lifetime.

Why?

The cost of living - too damn high. The people - ruthless and corrupt and rude. The government - insanely invasive and more so all the time. The environment - polluted, dirty and ugly.

All the creative stuff that used to offset that and make big city living worthwhile was crushed by the commercialization of culture that took hold in the early 90s.

The higher salaries that one can command in the urban centers are more than offset by the increases in housing and taxes. You have more money left to spend living in the boondocks working for half what you'd get in a city.

And there's so much bullshit that you simply don't have to deal with when you don't live or work in the city. Those hellish commutes. Street crime. Nasty faggots wearing parading in the streets demanding acceptance. The ever-increasing numbers of desperate homeless. Drunk people roaming the streets, shouting at all hours of the night. And the constant noise... always some engine rumbling to disturb the peace.

Wow I could go on and on but y'all get the point. None of the reason to live in a city in the past apply anymore.

Stu Elsample's picture

You forgot to mention the #1 big city problem....niggers. Wherever there are niggers, there will always be moral decay, misery, crime, filth, litter, property destruction, decline in property value, etc.....etc....etc.....

Anyone who disagrees with that is an idiot in denial.

signed, "racist"

SweetDougisaTwat's picture

You are correct.  Negros are cognitively sub par by their genome.  The don't belong in any Western or Asian society.

Christophe2's picture

PUH-LEEZE.

Who's a bigger problem in my life?

- Banksters (with their wars + MK-ULTRA + endless child abuse and genocide-class crimes)

- black people (who are not even ever banksters!!!)

bloofer's picture

You have more money to spend living in the boondocks and working at Wal-Mart. Most New Yorkers are used to such cramped living conditions that they'd get lost in a single-wide trailer.

ILIKEMITTENS's picture

Only 350,000 "migrants" arrived in two years? Hmmm, wonder what could be the problem.

sinbad2's picture

I imagine that New York will be on the nuke strike list in the upcoming war.

just the tip's picture

if i get to push the button.

Hitlery_4_Dictator's picture

Not gonna happen, Texas is redder than ever.  We got Constitutional Carry coming soon. It's a conservative mecca and more right wingers move here everyday from those shittard libstates.  Conservatives are moving in droves from CA and other blue states, while the retarded liberals stay.  Don't worry we welcome new conservative Texas residents. Large Trump / Pence banners still flying high, along side the Texas State flag round these parts.

desertboy's picture

US coastal cities have lost all their originality along with the gentrification.  All the neighborhoods are either gentrified or heading in that direction.  "Local flavor" is a theme park pretending to be what it once was.

EddieLomax's picture

Okay, if 900,000 have left NY, when do the housing pricings there collapse?  That's a lot of demand removed from the system, no doubt people who rented too.

I get the feeling we are in the Willy Coyote moment, prices continue at highs long after he's gone over the cliff, the drop is going to be a big one.

Bobbyrib's picture

Either that or the data is flawed. For some immigrants, they immigrate to New York City and don't leave. I wonder if they are counting immigrants (legal and illegal).

Deep Snorkeler's picture
Hawaii's shoreline suffers weekly from fecal contamination. Beach sand is turning into plastic granules. Oahu is almost fully asphaltized. Increasing population density is coming to you and you won't like it.
deerhunter's picture

I just heard there is a group trying to get Obama to run as mayor of Chicago. Now THAT is funny. They are building an Obama presidential library here. I thought they might build in in his home country in the slums of Nairobi. Oh well some union trades will at least get some work and help rescue their failed pension plans. I am glad it's Tuesday as I tend to be a bit cynical on Monday's . Carry on and good day all .

moorewasthebestbond's picture

A hearty good morning to you sir.

cherry picker's picture

if Obummer is Mayor of Chicago and HRC is Mayor of NYC

Now I know why they call them 'sancturary' cities.

truthalwayswinsout's picture

In 10 years all of the major cities will be in depressions because anybody with half a brain will realize they can live somewhere a lot nicer and have more than they had in the big cities.

Wait until they replace colleges and universities with online education sponsored by big companies where a better 4 year degree costs $4K total and can be paid for with a part time job in your field.  That will be the tipping point for culture and big city collapse.

In a SHTF scenario I want everyone in the big cities. The vast majority will die long before they make it to where I am.

messystateofaffairs's picture

Every complex organism needs an anus. New York provides that service for the US organism (even though DC appears to).

SweetDougisaTwat's picture

And some California cities are rather like penises oozing foul discharge.  Complex organisms can have that condition as well.

Zero-Hegemon's picture

Snake Plissken doesn't care about your mass exodus, or New York.

d edwards's picture

Only problem is they bring their destructive liberal ideas with them and eventually fuck up the place they escaped to.

P'Od_Accountant's picture

New York is a fucking shithole prison.  

Kprime's picture

What we really need from New York is a lot more Vertical Migration, from 20 story and higher.

 

Jump assholes, jump.