If What Susan Rice Did Wasn't Illegal, It Should Be

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was “legal” and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was “illegal.” It was “illegal” to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler’s Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers.

 

From the 2013 post, Martin Luther King: “Everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was Legal”

The fact that most of the debate surrounding the unmasking of Trump personnel revolves around whether it was legal or not highlights just how superficial and ethically deranged our culture has become. If what she did was indeed legal, this is an enormous problem in the first place, one that privacy advocates and opponents of Big Brother surveillance have been warning about constantly since the gulag spying panopticon was put in place following 9/11. For the purposes of this post, let’s assume that what Susan Rice did was legal.

If her actions were indeed totally by the books, we need to use this incident as a rallying call to reform the laws immediately. Likewise, Donald Trump should be pushing such reform tirelessly from his bully pulpit, but given his authoritarian nature I doubt he will. Fortunately, Rand Paul is heeding the call.

As reported by The Hill:

U.S. citizens who are caught up incidentally in foreign intelligence surveillance are typically subject to minimization rules to conceal their identities, though there are some exceptions.

 

But individuals can be exempt from the minimization rules if their identities are necessary to understand the value of the foreign intelligence.

 

Paul used Monday’s development to renew his push for reform of a controversial provision of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that allows the U.S. intelligence community to target non-Americans outside the United States without a warrant. The provision, Section 702, is up for renewal later this year.

 

Paul also signaled that he sees Nunes — who has long been an advocate for the foreign intelligence law — as a potential ally for reform. 

Sad that most people are ok with rampant surveillance until it’s used against their team, but I’ll take it.

Nunes previously took issue with the fact that Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, had his communications monitored by the intelligence community, which were later the subject of media reports. 

Paul’s emphasis on reforming the law is exactly where it ought to be. For example, Susan Rice herself explained during a recent MSNBC interview, how the unmasking process works. Basically, she sees an intelligence report containing surveilled conversations between a foreigner and an American, and if she decides she wants to unmask the American, she makes that request to the intelligence community, which then approves or denies the request. That’s all it takes. Think about how potentially abusive this is. What happened when you have a situation where the deep state and the President are adamantly united against a candidate, as they were against Trump? Naturally they’re going to approve the unmasking of a political enemy, and it appears that is precisely what happened.

As The Daily Caller noted:

Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told TheDCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall,” he said.

 

Doran charged that potential serious crimes were undertaken because “this is a leaking of signal intelligence.”

 

“That’s a felony,” he told TheDCNF. “And you can get 10 years for that. It is a tremendous abuse of the system. We’re not supposed to be monitoring American citizens. Bigger than the crime, is the breach of public trust.”

 

Waurishuk said he was most dismayed that “this is now using national intelligence assets and capabilities to spy on the elected, yet-to-be-seated president.”

 

“We’re looking at a potential constitutional crisis from the standpoint that we used an extremely strong capability that’s supposed to be used to safeguard and protect the country,” he said. “And we used it for political purposes by a sitting president. That takes on a new precedent.”

Tucker Carlson summarized the situation perfectly on his show.

 

Finally, when it comes to illegality, while the unmasking may have been legal, the leaking to the press certainly wasn’t. As Glenn Greenwald noted, Obama prosecuted leakers for the exact same behavior.

We live in fascinating times.

 

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Chupacabra-322's picture

Are we that Blue Pilled? Why are we even debating the obvious Crime/s.

Lawlessness.

Shitonya Serfs's picture

She was just 1) following orders...or 2) didn't intend to break the law. That works, right?

greenskeeper carl's picture

My understanding of this is that when she started this prior to him getting the nomination, it was illegal. Obama made it 'legal' after the election, right before he left office, since he wouldn't have killery in office to sweep this away.

Ross123's picture

I don't think the changes Obama made just before he left would be retroactive. The changes he made about a month before just allowed the mad scramble of collection of information being made to be spread around so when the leaks ( aimed at being hits on Trump) were made the new administration could not trace who leaked it.

Countrybunkererd's picture

Not that i expect much from this stalled out useless government we have.  But if you think about it, is there ANY better way to drain the swamp?

TheLastTrump's picture

That's right, unless there's specific wording in the order which would have been smart.

 

That rule change was leak camouflageer just like you said.

Croesus's picture

Krieger is about as retarded as Alex Jones, whenever he invokes the "HitlerNazi" boogie-man:

Again:

See this fucked-up mess of a world? See the amoral bullshit that's preached to kids in school, and on TV? See the Satanic Pedophiles that are taking us into Hell? See that Dystopian nightmare?

All brought to you by "The Good Guys", who "stopped those Evil Nazis".

Do yourselves a favor: watch some of Hitler's and Goebbel's subtitled speeches on youtube. They could be talking about the times we're living in now.

Eventually, you will all have to ask yourselves a question:

"Völkerfrieden oder Judendiktatur"?

Countrybunkererd's picture

watch some of Hitler's and Goebbel's subtitled speeches on youtube. They could be talking about the times we're living in now.

If they weren't talking about our current times, it was implied.

NidStyles's picture

70 years is still current times. Societies and ethnic divides do not change that fast. It takes about 300 years for a culture to shift to any real degree without this sort of demographic warfare the Jews are bent on using.

 

Countrybunkererd's picture

America, the outlier.  I don't recognize what we are from the 80's-90's.  The melting pot has melted the pot.

NidStyles's picture

I recognize Americans, the issue I see it is that we have a lot of people whom are not Americans infesting our coast lines and border states. The number of people I have met in the past 5 years alone that were openly here illegally is staggering. They all have real jobs and housing, and none of them are here legally. Some even have been in the military under fake names.

 

Real Americans haven't changed one bit. American culture is still the same as it was back then. We just have foreign invaders all over the place, and a specific group of people pushing to normalize foreign invader cultures.

 

Easy solution for all of this. Deport them all. If they refuse, shoot them on sight.

crossroaddemon's picture

I don't agree that the culture isn't changing. I'm in an almost entirely white, traditional rural area and in my lifetime I've watched the culture buckling under the weight of a collapsing rural economy. Things are in fact VERY different now.

TheLastTrump's picture

It fits the pattern.

 

It's pushing 80 years since WWII started for the USA and right on 80 years for the invasion of Manchuria IIRC. The Fourth Turning sees that 80 year span as a significant recurring plot in history. Ie, we're due.

RagaMuffin's picture

It's even worse when you add red and blue as colors - purple  sound familiar?

Chupacabra-322's picture

False Right / Left Paradigm of Pure Evil Criminal Tyrannical Lawless Psychopaths.

At the current moment we're completely Tyrannically Lawless.
We have been for quite some time. In the past, their Criminality was "Hidden in plain view."

Now it's out in the open, in your face Criminality & Lawlessness. Complete debachary.

The bar & precedent has been set so high among these Criminals I doubt we will ever see another person arrested in our lifetime.

Countrybunkererd's picture

If your fingerprints show up somewhere, how do you know or PROVE they weren't lifted and planted?  DNA...well science you know, it can't be...  OOOOHHHH.  Houston, we have a problem (we are looking down at where the USA should be and see nothing but flames and smoke).  But that is for us plebs.  You mean the super-class and they are untouchable via "law" but history shows other means.  <SIGH>

Squid Viscous's picture

what does this have to to with Jews and Hitler, so tired of this stupid analogy for everything :bad:

847328_3527's picture

Ditto. They must be a little deranged to harp on that non-issue. It detracts from the real crimes going on by the Obama administration and other issues.

Insurrector's picture

More importantly the Trump Russian nexus!

NidStyles's picture

It's the same people behind the current situation that were behind the Weimar Republic. Jewish Bolsheviks.

 

MLK was a Communist though, so Hitler was his boogeyman.

rubiconsolutions's picture

I'm probably in the minority but I don't give a damn about the leakers. I do care about the collectors. Everyone is focusing on Susan Rice. What about the creeps in the basements of the NSA, CIA and other, um, "intelligence" agencies. Those are the people that piss me off. Yet they seem to be getting a pass for "doing their job" which amounts to spying and surveilling every American. Susan Rice and others are a distraction. The real villains are the turds that are collecting the data on all of us. 

roadhazard's picture

So if they are listening in on a Russian and an American comes on the phone they should hang up and not listen.

1980XLS's picture

Lock the Bitch Up!

Angry White Guy's picture

She's black, a woman, and a libtard.  NOTHING will come of this.  NOTHING.  Just like nothing ever came of Cankles obvious high crimes.  

Insurrector's picture

The biggest travesty was Iran-Contra.

Reagan turned the US Government into a drug dealing illegal arms dealer.

Fucking Oliver North.  Not only did that turd of a human get away with unbelievable crap, no one remembers that he did.

Winston Churchill's picture

Hate to break it to you but they were already back in the early seventies.That I saw with my own eyes.

According to an ex CIA station chief I befriended back then, they had always been, in all his time in the

agency.He was in his 40's and fell into a well on Anjuna beach(Goa) and drowned.He couldn't hide from them even there.

He only went out in daylight in a group, yet alone, at night he fell into a well.Yeah....

You can work out your own timelines as to how long this has been going on..

shocktherapy's picture

Maybe whites should lead by example ?

 Jeffrey Lacker, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, announced Tuesday that he was resigning effective immediately after acknowledging improper discussions with a financial analyst that later became the subject of a lengthy investigation into leaks at the Fed.

Illegal insider trading refers generally to buying or selling a security, in breach of a fiduciary duty or other relationship of trust and confidence, while in possession of material, nonpublic information about the security. Insider trading violations may also include "tipping" such information, securities trading by the person "tipped," and securities trading by those who misappropriate such information.

"Lacker's attorney Richard Cullen said that Lacker had been informed that the investigation into his role in the Fed leak had been completed and no charges would be brought against him."

SilverRoofer's picture

And how many of the Senate and Congress made Millions off of this leak

TheLastTrump's picture

She's already been caught lying and got a free pass. Give this time. :)

Angry White Guy's picture

The two down voters are prob black, female, and libtarded.  

brooklinite8's picture

Sis Help this brother out...I got you bro. 

Gamma735's picture

These people will one day have to face God, it won't be pretty.

crossroaddemon's picture

Nope. They will go through their lives in opulent luxury and with incredible power, and then just be worm food like the rest of us. We'd like to believe that these people will get their comeuppance in the afterlife, but there is no afterlife. The material world is all there is. It ends the same for all of us.

darteaus's picture

Legal?  Then let the Trump team hold a press conference every day and 'leak' the same type of info about the Dhimmicrats.

Insurrexion's picture

Legal or not.

Susan Rice is a lying scumbag bitch and her days are numbered in this world.

Bear's picture

Yes she is and yes they are since ... On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

Kevin Trader's picture

Nothing will come  of this because she is a a first classs citizen you plebes, but its cute watching you get excited about a "possible" conviction

Insurrexion's picture

Which one of the following has Secret service protection, 24/7 for life?

1. Barack Obama and his fake family

2. Susan Rice

3. Valerie Jarrett

America will have justice.

Chupacabra-322's picture

@ Insurrexion,

Speaking of Barry & his "Handler" Jarrett. Wonder where those two are nowadays?

Bear's picture

South Pacific .... hope they stay there

roadhazard's picture

Carter, Bush, Bush, Cheney... and families.

Bear's picture

Rand Paul should be our President ... He's what most really wanted Trump to be.

dobermangang's picture

I predict she goes to jail and her defense lawyers get new beach homes.

SilverRoofer's picture

Paid for by the Lil ol Taxpayer

hotrod's picture

Well maybe Barry is not bad and sick after all.  Rice just following the law.

After all Hillary did nothing wrong with all her sordid schemes.