New York Set To Be First State With 'Free' Tuition At Public Colleges

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A last minute budget negotiation late Friday pretty much ensures that New York will be the first state to offer 'tuition-free' public higher education to its entitled snowflakes.  The $163 billion state budget agreement includes the Excelsior Scholarship, which covers tuition for any New Yorker accepted to one of the state’s community colleges or four-year universities, provided their family earns less than $125,000 a year.

Of course, for politicians, 'free' is just a nice way of saying they're about to jam more taxes down the throats of working Americans to cover the cost of services they may or may not use personally.

Free College

 

The scholarship program will be phased in over three years, beginning for New Yorkers making up to $100,000 annually in the fall of 2017, increasing to $110,000 in 2018, and reaching $125,000 in 2019. Nearly 1
million families will qualify for the scholarship.

It is a last-dollar program, meaning the state would cover any tuition left over after factoring in federal Pell Grants and New York’s Tuition Assistance Program. Students must be enrolled in college full time and take at least 30 course credits a year, though those facing hardships can pause and restart the program or take fewer credits.

As the Washington Post points out, the program is expected to cost New York taxpayers $163 million in its first year and, like all other entitlements, will only grow over time. 

Proposed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo in January, the scholarship taps into one of the Democratic Party’s most popular ideas and advances a bipartisan movement to lower the cost of college that is taking shape across the country.

 

“Today, college is what high school was — it should always be an option even if you can’t afford it,” Cuomo said in a statement Saturday. “With this program, every child will have the opportunity that education provides.”

 

Not much changed from the initial proposal, including the $163 million estimated cost for the first year of the program, though there were concessions to win over lawmakers. Award recipients attending community college now have to remain in New York for two years after graduation, while those at state universities must stay for four years. Private universities, whose leaders said the plan would undermine their schools, will see an increase in state tuition assistance funding.

Of course, the irony of the situation is that, like many misinformed liberal entitlement programs, throwing more money at U.S. universities only serves to exacerbate the underlying problem of bloated, out-of-control college budgets.  But, on the bright side, America's snowflakes will have yet another pool of money on which they can rely to fund their hedonistic, binge-drinking filled spring break trips to Cancun

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Donald Trump (not verified) Apr 9, 2017 9:20 PM

Forget about tuition.

Selling yourself on Instagram doesn't need much schooling these days. 

This Model is a Direct Threat to Your Browsing History

When you become president like me, you can grab them by the ... tuition.

 


alt right dude's picture

All Right. 

Can I get some tutoring?

PLEASE !!!

john doeberg's picture

Well, if they can train their pupils to do tricks for the banksters I bet the kikesters will be more than willing to cover their pets tuitions.

Already been tried in Vegas, Hollywood and it works.

Everybody's happy.

Pizza anyone?

Dyler_Turden's picture

The problem is that people don't respect something that's free/easy to obtain.

So all those diplomas ...ahhh I mean... participation trophies ... will mean crap.

 

 

Stuck on Zero's picture

And they'll wonder why everyone earning more than $125K will have left the state in five years.

Vatican_cameo's picture

 

"Free Liberal Indoctrination for All".  We lost the election, so it's time to "re-educate" the masses!

Never One Roach's picture

Does the budget cover new safe spaces, trophies and therapy puppies for the snowflakes?

NoDebt's picture

"Free" worthless education.  At taxpayer expense.  Just another reason not to live in NY.

 

wee-weed up's picture

 

 

"Today, college is what high school was"...

Slight correction...

Today, college is what kindergarten was!

manofthenorth's picture

Shaquille O'Neal says that the Earth is flat and he has a fucking PhD..........

IN EDUCATION !!!

The Onion called and they want their headline back.

Unfortunately for the Onion, they are now obsolete.

Life has become a parody of itself.

Richard Chesler's picture

If you live in NY and make $130K/yr you should be asking yourself,

WTF r u doing???

Mtnrunnr's picture

Welp. Looks like I'll have to get my masters with all the minorities and women I'll be supporting through college, and later competing at a disadvantage with in 5 years. BUT. Education is good so I'm only half pissed.

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GoingBig's picture

My guess is you don't know either way.youve got it backwards. High school in many places is what college used to be. Most kids I know are taking AP Calc, history, English, etc.

These kids you people call snowflakes are some of the best prepared kids we've ever had. You are either jealous or extremely ignorant.

Blankenstein's picture

Baloney.  That's a very small percentage of the students.  Why do think so many colleges and junior colleges have remedial courses?  I have a friend who works at a community college.  They offer TWO different remedial courses to try and prepare students for their college algebra course.  

Itinerant's picture

I love this quip. It's so true, the achievements of high school seniors now are on a par with what 12 year old children were doing in one-room classrooms back in the day that finishing school meant going to work on the farm or the family business, there being no money to get further education. And today you need an extra four years of college just to get to the level that high school seniors were expected to reach in the fifties.

It's such a perfect illustration of our inflated times with our flabby self-congratulatory back pats about credentials, most educated ever, etc etc.

But read, spell, do arithmetic by heart .... all too difficult.

r0mulus's picture

In principle, it ought to be a value-producing investment for the state to invest in a better skilled workforce. In principle, I for one support such efforts.

The catch, of course, is that there may be no restrictions on what type of education is pursued at the public expense. Dance? Music? Filmmaking? Additionally, there is no guarantee that the quality of said education will remain constant. Guaranteed funding may encourage the state and community colleges to accept marginal students who they might otherwise not have admitted.

I'll be interested to see how this plays out in the coming years.

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Mr Blue (not verified) r0mulus Apr 10, 2017 5:34 AM

I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... http://bit.ly/2jdTzrM

Slomotrainwreck's picture

At a cost of $0.00 we now know the market value of a college education.

chimchim's picture

There is absolutely a garrantee.
100% garrantee that quality goes down.
Truth is, it can't go down much.
NOTHING IS FREE.

Economy-X's picture

Folks think about it. There is not such thing as free education. You can't just pay money (who ever is paying) and expect to be educated. Education is NOT like buying Nikes!

An education can only be earned through hard, hard work. So there is no moral hazard issue here. Just makes funding dependent on a minimum of a B grade or higher!

Second, a society without a minimum level of general education is generally, and I think we can all agree on this, a society of superstition and ignorance of the kind which prevents any nation or state being great!

Thirdly, tax-funded education is an INVESTMENT which will be payed back by the future tax-paying of those revceiving the education. Also, the better educated the general population (including morals, politics and general decency along with technical knowledge) the better that society will be in general for everyone.

Everyone benefits, and this would cost a fraction of military adventurism that leaves millions dead, including AMericans, and leaves trillions in debts that are the real source of your high taxes. Stop hating on giving anyone who wants to work on their education from having that opportunity. In fact it is a sure way to even out the unfair advantage inherited wealth gives to the real citizens of easy street. People like Trump who inherited their leg up in society rather than earning it!!!

There I said it. Now the Trump brigade is going go hating on my ass! Don't have to like the Truth to admit to it folks!! Ya,ya I'm a commy, socialist, snowflake, rainbow warrior Prius-driving etc. Cheers :)

chimchim's picture

Socialists are so.......blind.
- and poorly read.

Jeffersonian Liberal's picture

That's part of the problem D_T and perhaps the lesser part.

The big problem is that, as it is with the government paying for healthcare determining every facet of your physical life, when government pays for your education, they will determine who can study which programs and what the programs consist of.

"Indoctrination camps" become "educational concentration camps."

You see, what if everyone decides to study art history. The government, having their fat, hairy fingers in the big pot called the Economy will say, "We see too many students/graduates with that degree and not enough jobs. So, only this select group (that we choose) can study that major. The rest of you have to select another major (that we sanction and approve)."

Voila.

We have an Orwellian state created in Huxley's Brave New World laboratory.

If Socialized Medicine is the capstone of socialism, "free education" is the foundation.

quadraspleen's picture

All education should be free at point of access. Universities need to start offering real degrees, like in the old days. You only get to go to uni if it's actually worth having you in the labour force with a degree that's actually worth having. The problem is not with the cost of education, it's with the steady decline of intelligence (thanks to the shit schooling) and the creation of hundreds of worthless degrees

Jeffersonian Liberal's picture

Or, you return to a system of "if you want it, you pay for it. If you don't have the money, work and save and then pay for it."

That system gets rid of all the argument about who "should" get what (not for free, but by confiscating some other worker's income) and what is "worth" it.

Let the market decide what is valuable and let the market pay for it.

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HRH Feant (not verified) alt right dude Apr 9, 2017 9:31 PM

www.khanacademy.org

Free to everyone of any age. You only need a device and access to the Internet. This is the future of education.

I view universities as places where people go to be indoctrinated.

Dyler_Turden's picture

Is this "academy" created to honor that muslim fellow.. Khan?

I wonder what device they require for accessing. 

Might have to bring your own goat. 

 

Leaving joking aside, this is the best example of 5th Column... "Academy" funded by muslims to brainwash the future multiculturalists. 

Don't even have to right the 100xtimes Black Lives Matter essay in order to enter. It's free, brought to you by your camel riding Saudi friends.

meditate_vigorously's picture

Many people may be surprised to hear me say this, but not everything is about race and religion.

Salman Khan conceived and founded Khan Academy and both the idea and execution are brilliant. He is a brilliant educator.

I know many many professors and secondary teachers who encourage students to use it at a supplement to their own courses, or to cover topics that may be remedial to their course, if students need a refresher. It has everything.

Dyler_Turden's picture

Riight.

If Bill Gates is fond of him and his sunday school I begin to worry.

  • Bill Gates spoke about Khan Academy at the Aspen Ideas festival.[31]

 

PS

The leftiests have started to push propaganda on ZH... vigorously. Please meditate about it.

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HRH Feant (not verified) Dyler_Turden Apr 9, 2017 9:58 PM

Everyone here knows that I hate and despise only one thing: communism.

So fuck off troll.

Dyler_Turden's picture

No one knows you here, so stop pimping your cultural marxist "academy"

And seems that you also talk to your alter ego, meditate_vig , patting yourselves on the back.

Spamming class 101.

 

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HRH Feant (not verified) Dyler_Turden Apr 9, 2017 10:31 PM

Plenty of people know me here.

Up voting yourself does not mean you win the argument. It only makes you look like what you are: a moron.

I agreed with Meditate. On one single comment? So the fuck what.

You are a fucking troll. Fuck off.

NidStyles's picture

No, we don't.

 

You've been here 18 weeks, no one has a clue who you are.

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HRH Feant's picture

Education should be free.

Socrates walked about the olive groves in Athens and taught those who were interested in what he said. The Internet is the greatest force for freedom ever created. To have the knowledge of the world at one's fingertips is powerful.

red1chief's picture

Yes, should be free but more limited to those who can really benefit from it. Society would be better and it would cost less.

Billy the Poet's picture

Education should be free

 

And not just education. You should buy me everything my heart desires because rights.

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HRH Feant (not verified) Billy the Poet Apr 9, 2017 10:38 PM

That is a false equivalent. Anyhow, I proved my point that education is free online.

Don't try and use a straw man argument to fucking lie.

I hate communism and the lie that you have a right to my labor. You do not.

Fuck off.

Billy the Poet's picture

You've already fucked yourself by believing that that which is valuable should be free when it's obvious that that which is valuable must be earned.

chimchim's picture

Socrates could still walk around teaching for free if he were alive.
Think before u talk.

techpriest's picture

Thanks for posting Khan Academy. The sad thing is, the troll does not understand the true significance of that site. It's not just the one site. It's the fact that with relatively little investment, nearly anyone can start teaching online, which means that the cost of content is going to go to zero.

Ron Paul has done the same thing with his home school program, and the libertarian Tom Woods has also done so with his history course. I imagine that many more such programs exist, with any ideological bent you would want.

Personally, I have friends teaching on Skillshare. Becoming a teacher is pretty easy, and you can teach on most anything. Personally, once I get my garden where I want it, I'm going to do some courses on square foot gardening.

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HRH Feant (not verified) techpriest Apr 9, 2017 11:25 PM

I am not surprised that some folks are being pissy about that link.

I don't give a shit. With that link and a language program you can have children that will rule the future. I also suggest that parents limit access to electronics and computers. As "60 Minutes" showed tonight your device has been programmed to make you, or rather your child, into an addict. Who are the easist to addict and program? Kids. Parents that allow their children unfettered and unmonitored access to electronic devices with the thought that their child will somehow be smarter has bought into the grand lie.

Long time gamer. I can tell you, allowing your child unfettered access to a computer and a smart phone is like allowing them to swim freely in the sewer. Does it make them smarter? No.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

I am embarrassed that ZH has turned into such an echo chamber that your obvious, and most definitely self evident warning gets panned here. I still feel guilty about handing down a Kindle to the grandson. A child should be holding books, because even with blue shade the effect of looking into screens is forcing a wave of eye problems. Toddlers addicted to screens is somewhat like adolescent Adderol, the effects are just now being seen. Our kids are guinea pigs for tech and big pharma. 

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HRH Feant (not verified) Dyler_Turden Apr 9, 2017 10:35 PM

Yo have been here for 5 weeks? Fuck off.

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If Arabs are involved, you know it's bad.