Russia, Iran Warn U.S. They Will "Respond With Force" If Syria "Red Lines" Crossed Again

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A statement issued on Sunday by a joint command centre consisting of forces of Russian, Iran and allied militia alliance supporting Syrian President Bashar al Assad said that Friday's US strike on the Syrian air base crossed “red lines” and it would "respond with force" to any new aggression while increasing their level of support to their ally.

In the statement published by the group on media outlet Ilam al Harbi, the pro-Assad alliances says that “what America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well."

Earlier on Sunday the UK's Defence Secretary, Sir Michael Fallon, demanded Russia rein in Mr Assad (by which he really meant be willing to accept a new Syrian regime with a pro-western puppet leader, and one who is willing to allow the Qatar gas pipeline to cross the country on its way to Europe.

Fallon also claimed that Moscow is "responsible for every civilian death" in the chemical attack on Khan Sheikhun and said Putin was responsible for the brutal killings “by proxy”, because it was the Syrian president’s “principal backer." The defense minister said the attack had happened "on their watch" and that Vladimir Putin must now live up to previous promises that Mr Assad’s chemical weapons had been destroyed.  His comments came after Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson pulled out of a Moscow visit hours before he was due to fly.
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Finally, for those who are unclear about the core geopolitical tensions that are at the base of the long-running Syrian proxy war, the answer is - as so often tends to be - commodities and specifically natural gas, as we first explained in 2013, and as summarized in the following October 2016 article courtesy of Eric Zuesse (see also "Competing Gas Pipelines Are Fueling The Syrian War & Migrant Crisis")

The Oil-Gas War Over Syria (In 4 Maps)

Turkey’s Anadolu News Agency, though government-run, is providing remarkably clear and reliable diagrammatic descriptions of the current status of the U.S - and - fundamentalist - Sunni, versus Russia - and - Shia - and - NON - fundamentalist - Sunni, sides, in the current oil-and-gas war in the Middle East, for control over territory in Syria, for construction of oil-and-gas pipelines through Syria supplying fuel into the world’s largest energy-market: Europe. Russia is now the dominant supplier of both oil and gas, but its ally Iran is a Shiite gas-powerhouse that wants to share the market there, and Russia has no objection.

Qatar is a Sunni gas-powerhouse and wants to become the main supplier of gas there, and Saudi Arabia is a Sunni oil-powerhouse, which wants to become the major supplier of oil, but Saudi oil and Qatari gas would be pipelined through secular-controlled (Assad's) Syria, and this is why the U.S. and its fundamentalist-Sunni allies, the Sauds, and Qataris, are using Al Qaeda and other jihadists to conquer enough of a strip through Syria so that U.S. companies such as Halliburton will be able safely to place pipelines there, to be marketed in Europe by U.S. firms such as Exxon. Iran also wants to pipeline its gas through Syria, and this is one reason why Iran is defending Syria’s government, against the U.S.-Saudi-Qatari-jihadist invasion, which is trying to overthrow and replace Assad.

Here are the most-informative of Anadolu’s war-maps:

The first presents the effort by many countries to eliminate ISIS control over the large Iraqi city of Mosul. A remarkably frank remark made in this map is "An escape corridor into Syria will be left for Daesh [ISIS] so they can vacate Mosul" - an admission that the U.S. - Saudi - Qatari team want the ISIS jihadists who are in Mosul to relocate into Syria to assist the U.S. - Saudi - Qatari effort there to overthrow and replace the Assad government: 

Syria

The second is about the Egyptian government's trying to assist the Syrian government's defense against the Saudi - U.S. - Qatari invasion of Syria, at Aleppo, where Syria's Al Qaeda branch is trying to retain its current control over part of that large city. The Saud family are punishing the Egyptian government for that:

Syria

 

Here is Russia's proposed gas-pipeline, which would enable Russia to reduce its dependence upon Ukraine (through which Russia currently pipes its gas into Europe). Obama conquered and took over Ukraine in February 2014 via his coup that overthrew the democratically elected neutralist Ukrainian President there:

Syria

In addition, there is the following map from oil-price.com:

Syria

That map shows the competing Shiia (Russia-backed) and Sunni (U.S.-backed) gas-pipelines into Europe — the central issue in the invasion and defense of Syria.

On 21 September 2016, Gareth Porter headlined "The War Against the Assad Regime Is Not a ‘Pipeline War’", and he pointed out some errors in Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s account that had been published under the headline "Syria: Another Pipeline War". Porter argued: "It's easy to understand why that explanation would be accepted by many anti-war activists: it is in line with the widely accepted theory that all the US wars in the Middle East have been ‘oil wars’ — about getting control of the petroleum resources of the region and denying them to America's enemies."

But the ‘pipeline war’ theory is based on false history and it represents a distraction from the real problem of US policy in the Middle East — the US war state's determination to hold onto its military posture in the region. Porter ignored the key question there, as to why the US war state has a determination to hold onto its military posture in the region. Opening and protecting potential oil-gas-pipeline routes are important reasons why. Clearly, Kennedy’s documentation that the CIA was trying as early as 1949 to overthrow Syria’s secular government so as to allow to the Sauds a means of cheaply transporting their oil through Syria into Europe, remains unaffected by any of the objections that Porter raised to Kennedy’s article. The recent portion of Kennedy’s timeline is affected, but not his basic argument.

Furthermore, any military strategist knows that the US war state is intimately connected to the U.S. oil-and-gas industries, including pipelines (oilfield services) as well as marketing (Exxon etc.). And Porter got entirely wrong what that connection (which he ignored) actually consists of: it consists of U.S. government taxpayer-funded killers for those U.S. international corporations. Here is how Barack Obama put it, when addressing graduating cadets at West Point, America’s premier military-training institution:

Russia’s aggression toward former Soviet states unnerves capitals in Europe, while China’s economic rise and military reach worries its neighbors. From Brazil to India, rising middle classes compete with us, and governments seek a greater say in global forums. And even as developing nations embrace democracy and market economies, 24-hour news and social media makes it impossible to ignore the continuation of sectarian conflicts and failing states and popular uprisings that might have received only passing notice a generation ago.

 

It will be your generation’s task to respond to this new world. The question we face, the question each of you will face, is not whether America will lead, but how we will lead - not just to secure our peace and prosperity, but also extend peace and prosperity around the globe.

He was saying there that America’s military is in service to U.S.-based international corporations in their competition against those of Russia, Brazil, China, India, and anywhere else in which "rising middle classes compete with us". Those places are what Gareth Porter referred to as "America's enemies".

Economic competitors are "enemies". Obama thinks that way, and even a progressive journalist such as Porter doesn’t place into a skeptical single - quotation - mark - surround, the phrase ‘America’s enemies’ when that phrase is used in this equational context. On both the right (Obama) and the left (Porter), the equation of a government and of the international corporations that headquarter in its nation — the treatment of the military as being an enforcement-arm for the nation’s international corporations — is simply taken for granted, not questioned, not challenged.

RFK Jr. was correct, notwithstanding some recent timeline-errors. Syria is "Another Pipeline War", and Obama is merely intensifying it. (On 9 November 2015, I offered a different account than RFK Jr. provided of the recent history — the Obama portion — of the longstanding U.S. aggression against Syria; and it links back to Jonathan Marshall’s excellent articles on that, and to other well-sourced articles, in addition to primary sources, none of which contradict RFK Jr.’s basic view, "Syria: Another Pipeline War").

Another portion of Porter’s commentary is, however, quite accurate: America’s ‘Defense’ (or mass-killing-abroad) industries (such as Lockheed Martin) are not merely servants of the U.S. government, but are also served by the U.S. government: "the US war state's determination to hold onto its military posture in the region" is protection of the major market — the Middle Eastern market — for U.S. ‘Defense’ products and services. It’s not only America’s firms in the oil, gas, and pipelines, industries, which benefit from America’s military; it is also America’s firms in the mass-killing industries, that do.

To the extent that the public (here including Barack Obama and Gareth Porter) do not condemn the presumption that "the business of America is business", or that a valid function of U.S. - taxpayer - funded military and other foreign-affairs operations is to serve the stockholders of U.S. international corporations, the hell (such as in Syria) will continue. Gareth Porter got lost among the trees because he failed to see (and to point to) that forest.

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quax's picture

Iranian nukes won't happen. It looks credible now that Iran was always just interested in nuclear break-out capabilities. Much smarter than NK playing with fire.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-religious-decree-against-nuclear-weapon...

Davidduke2000's picture

A quick attack on saudi oil facilities would cripple trump quite fast as his economy depend on oil from saudi arabia even though the us says otherwise, once Putin hits saudi, the military would take out the rulers behead them and take over the country and order the yanks out. this would be fatal for trump, but if he still did not get it, Putin's satellite killers would cripple the mainland of the US but shutting TV stations, Radios stations aircraft carriers . basically it would shut the us from waging war for a long time. the best part, israel also would stop functioning. 

Thom Paine's picture

What would put an end to USA/Israel/Saudi plan to take over Syria is if China decided to join Russia on the ground and with hardware.

This would be some sort of deal where Russia assists, supports or joins some other Chinese military project.

THE total stupidity of the NATO/USA/Israel threatening Russia is that goes to creating a hemisphere wide superpower - ChinaRussia. by forcing them very close together.  

Just look at a map of China-Russia-Iran. These guys will own Asia, militarily and economically.  And if they trun India...

Relationships between Russia and the USA were normalising, until some bunch of neocon masturbators thought they needed to make Russia an enemy and stop their growth.

quax's picture

You see a plan where there isn't one. They were just too stupid too understand that Ukraine/Crimea was a red line for Russia.

you know they are lying because they are talking's picture

In spite of optimism in these comments, I do not think Putin can win by shooting down aircraft or missiles. America has the upper hand in that it can launch from Turkey, or the Sea. They are forcing Putin to decide to take out a ship, or attack bases in Turkey. There are 2 ways out for Putin in my view. One is escalation that will likely lead to ww3, or a direct threat to wipe Israel off the map. As the only thing these mfkers care about is Israel, that may work.

China...really needs to make a choice here, and soon...before this gets out of hand.

AlaricGaudiTheSecond's picture

China (and India btw) already made a choice on victory day parade 2016. Look towards end of video on yt. Yes, Xi and his wife where clapping really hard that day as their symbolic batallion marched on the red square, Moscow. Im optimistic about the fate about these ziojuice once shtf goes off.

DEMIZEN's picture

If putin has its back covered by iran, the russian map of options changes 100%. They can be in Baku for breakfast tomorrow and there is nothing and nobody to stop them.

Noone wants to depend on shady persians or jews as allies unless absolutely necessary.they have this everything is "for sale" mentality, no sense of loyalty to other than the clan. its been a tough 1000 years for the people down there.  Whole Arab world pretty much works the same way. That why is so easy to hire proxies down there.

Russian are only relying on ships during the peace time to avoid bad publicity and to respect international order. but when things escalate beyond UN cafeteria discussions, the russians will roll to the iranian border first. and if turkey moves, they will carbonized in less than 20 and russian will move in 2 weaks later or repeat the drill if necessary. They are smarter and better prepared for a total war. they have dug themselves in for any size of nuclear clusterfuck and can ride it out less hurt than the rest.

 

Just like everybody else, turks needs to think for themselves, and make aliances based on common interests. When shit gets out of cotrol common interest comes from self preservation and sheer survival, not international pipe deals and imf loans.

And if russians dont finish us up, dont forget there is still chinese outhere to collect on the scrap and charcoal. And a lot of angry south americans.

Now the fat boy: NK didnt hurt anyone. they mind their own business lighting up their shit. They are in the devils triangle. surrounded by 3 most powerfull worlds zones of influence. Of course they are weird and afraid. But still it  is home to quite some poeple and this place is pretty much everything they have.

If was kim id probably try to make a deal with russians. give him a half of a million soldiers in exchange for modern air defenses. air its the only way the americans can hurt them.  I am not sure how putin would respond to this but given the lack of manpower in syrian arena it may not be such a bad idea, and stick it up to the man in spite. it would cause a lot of trouble for US. Maybe there are already doing it while we speak.

And the europeans in the end.. Dont bee fooled by gallup polls. These include the old peple that mooch the pension system and fear world order collapse and with grayheads included international affair approvals run around 30 percent. If you take the old out of equation, the approvals plunge to single digits. Way more than half of eastern europeans pledge to putin i dare to speculate on this one. continental and southern europe is paper ally only and can change any minute especially in case of any significant turmoil.

 

 

Davidduke2000's picture

China knows that trump is a snake and they are also preparing for war, however it would great if China provide 50000 soldier to go to Syria for counter invasion war.

Putin is more likely to destroy Saudi to send oil prices to $200 at least, therefore he will chocke the west and cut its ability to wage war.

He can also destroy their satellites that will also wrech the economies of the west and the US the most, but the primary objective is stop their ability to wage war.

Victory_Garden's picture

Talk about forces. How about that Sunforce?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OUTv21jec

 

And another thing...who in the heck wants to fight a woar in the desert as summer is approaching and the rads are intensifying? Crazy people. it is almost like they are sacrificing those troops for satanic/luciferic god in hell, or sumptin.

 

Extra Credit: Go back and find the link to the UV Index Map on a previous post.

 

 

Thaxter's picture

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson spoke by phone on Saturday about the situation in Syria after the U.S. strikes on a Syrian air base, the Russian ministry said in a statement.

Lavrov pointed out that "an attack on a country whose government fights terrorism only plays into the hands of extremists, creates additional threats to regional and global security," the Russian ministry said.

He also told Tillerson that assertions that the Syrian military used chemical weapon in Idlib province on April 4 do not correspond to reality, the ministry added.

It said Lavrov and his U.S. counterpart agreed to continue discussions on Syria in person. Tillerson is expected in Moscow for talks with Russian officials next week.

(Reporting by Polina Devitt; Editing by Hugh Lawson)

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-04-08/russias-lavrov-and...

Davidduke2000's picture

Both know that a war will start soon and both preparing, however Putin has won his two wars while the us did not yet.

gcjohns1971's picture

It was either Syria who used the Sarin, or Turkey.

The skies are monitored, and gas isn't easily distributed from the ground.

So, either it was the Syrian planes...

Or it was Turkish rockets, which radar cannot always see.

Both have means and opportunity.

Only one has a motive...to be pipelineistan.

Fake Trump's picture

Trump rhetoric on North Korea. You won't dare to strike North Korea. I maybe wrong. Let's see. Be warned China will join Russia and Iran to give you a Red Line Warning. Put your own house in order first before going around making wars. 

IMPEACH TRUMP

tuetenueggel's picture

simple conclusion but a very clear an correct one.

AttilaTheGun's picture

Russia really doesn't want a war with the US, do they.

Relax Vlad.

Davidduke2000's picture

Russia knows that trump is preparinga war on iran, Syria and Lebanon, unfortunately it will be the us soldiers grave. I advise the soldiers to quit the army and leave as Putin is preparinga surprise to Trump and his invaders.

this year the US will lose more than 50000 soldiers and at least 2 aircraft carriers.

 

Now we know why Trump allocated an extra $50 billion to the military budget, it's to go to war.

tuetenueggel's picture

Stupidity has a price: Lives of the most stupid.

Ross123's picture

Russia can't afford an all out war.

Neither can the USA ,if it took it's financial situation seriously.

Thom Paine's picture

Russia doesn't need an all out war.

They can keep the ME a total mess for the USA by heavily arming Syria, Iran, giving Iran nukes.

And make nuking Israel a creible threat if the US actions go too far.

It makes no difference to Russia if the ME remains a mess for the next 100 years. It is the US, Qatar and Saudis that lose out.

And Iranians really need Russias support, as a credile deterent, and military assistances.

optimator's picture

"Threaten Israel".   Any real threat to Israel from anywhere, Russia, China, North Korea, would guarantee the full military weight of the United States with not the slightest thought of consequenses. 

tuetenueggel's picture

Russia and China togetehr smash the paranoid US-liears.

McNobrain should be hanged.

optimator's picture

Back Russia into a corner and they'll use 'em before they lose 'em.

Flibbertigibbet's picture

What makes you (something condescending)'s think Christianity(Catholicism), Judaism(Ashkenazism) and Islam weren't in on it together from the beginning?

Was lying and collusion invented during...the middle ages?

Coincidence Theory:

- The FORGED Donation Of Constantine
- The formation of "formal" Islam
- The formation of "modern" Jewry(Khazar mass conversion)
- The "anointing" of Charlemagne as Holy Roman Emperor

ALL within a period of less than 100 years.

africoman's picture

I am afraid Russia will suffer long before they must use force, right now the situation doesn't allow them even to respond tit for tat.

The reason is the force that rides the fucked up U$A is desperate for war with Russia and Russia, Iran or China, the buggy mens,can't afford anytime soon but in the long run, i am sure the answer is bring it on bitches.

Long live Mr. Assad, for the humiliations of the west.

Greed is King's picture

When Trump was on the election campaign his promise to the people was peace with Russia, the people elected him on this and other issues. So my question is this; who gave him a mandate to wage war with Russia, was it YOU ?.

 

Omega_Man's picture

bring the US dollar to it's real value  5 cents....cheeseburger $40 usd

Omega_Man's picture

merica loves attacking everyone ....in the end ....fight merica will fight on their own soil ...

Able Ape's picture

It's time for the United States of Israel to leave the ME for good...It has been mucking up the ME for 70 years - enough is enough!

gcjohns1971's picture

It is not the desire for the US to control the oil.

Let us not forget the Rockefellers owned Saudi Aramco until 1982.

Oil and gas that can't be sold are useless.

It is to let the middle East into Europe's energy market.

Oh...

And by the way...

The map of Qatari vs Irani gas fields is innaccurate.

The Poms gas fields is under the Gulf, with edges touching the two countries.

IT IS ONE GAS FIELD, NOT TWO.

They are competitively trying to sell the same has from under one another.

Twodogs's picture

Now who's doing the talking? Trump puts the ball in their court, and they all turn into Obama.

TheMagician's picture

Swell...right before the 100 day mark our dear leader is called to the famous dark room in the WH basement where the real power waits for a chat.

Once Neocon & Co are finished with him, he takes the elevator up to the oval office, now a new man - Macho-Trump and his war crazy daughter with a firm grip on the dick of her Jewish husband who cannot start a breakfast without a few droned deaths in impoverished Yemen.

If Putin gets pissed and starts slinging some satan missiles against US soil, who cares? Macho-Trump and his cohort just waltz over to his deluxe nuclear safe hideout, twittering his usual nonsense to an extinct world.

What a reality show. All in prime time. If not MAGA here, then at least MAGA in hell.

And to think, real people actually voted for this clown believing in the tricks he performed on stage to be beneficial to their real life. And what is worse, some still do...<shakes head>

 

 

tbone10's picture

Bring it you fucking communist! You and your third world cuntry will be vaporized! Fuck you putin!!!

Tom Angle's picture

I am willing to bet that nothing will happen. This is not any worse than obama aiding al qaeda linked forces in the over throw of the Lybian governmnet. That is treason and nothing happened to him or any of those involved.

Hannibal's picture
Pentagon Trained Syria’s Al Qaeda “Rebels” in the Use of Chemical Weapons.

The Western media refutes their  own lies.

Not only do they confirm that the Pentagon has been training the terrorists in the use of chemical weapons, they also acknowledge the existence of a not so secret “US-backed plan to launch a chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime” 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-trained-syrias-al-qaeda-rebels-in-...

logang's picture

The Duran has checked with the Kremlin for confirmation of the 'red lines' declaration. No such declaration was made, according to Peskov. The story was probably planted by Mossad.