Putin Will Not Meet Tillerson In Russia, As Confusion Grows Over US Policy Toward Syria

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While the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, and US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson seem unable to agree on what the right policy is regarding Syria and specifically Assad, with the former saying a top priority of Trump is to oust Assad, while the latter claimed over the weekend that the Islamic State is the key concern while Assad's fate and that the people of Syria should decide Assad's fate, Russia is not waiting for clarification.

On Monday morning, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters that U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was not due to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin when he visits Moscow later this week. He will meet Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov however, Peskov said.

“So far there is no meeting with Tillerson on the president’s schedule,” Peskov told reporters in a phone call. “We never announce such meetings, whether they will take place or not – we won’t announce it.”

The Kremlin spokesman assured reporters though that if there is such a plan, media would be “properly notified.”

Commenting on U.S. missile strikes against Syria last week, Peskov said the action had shown Washington's total unwillingness to cooperate on Syria. He said renewed calls for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down would not help to resolve the crisis.

“The US side thus has demonstrated a complete unwillingness to somehow cooperate on Syria and take into account each others' interests and concerns,” Peskov said, while commenting on the suspension of the Memorandum on Air Safety in the aftermath of the US missile strike on Syrian military airfield overnight on Thursday.

"There is no other alternative," to peace talks in Geneva and Astana, Peskov said.

Meanwhile Tillerson, who on Monday was in Italy for a meeting of G7 foreign ministers in Tuscany, said the United States will hold responsible anyone who commits crimes against humanity, just days after the U.S. military unexpectedly attacked Syria. We assume US drone operators, whose actions have caused thousands of innocents deaths over the past decade, will be exempts from this "responsibility."

While prior to the April 7 missile strikes President Donald Trump had indicated he would be less interventionist than his predecessors and willing to overlook human rights abuses if it was in U.S. interests, Tillerson said the United States would not let such crimes go unchallenged. "We rededicate ourselves to holding to account any and all who commit crimes against the innocents anywhere in the world," he told reporters while commemorating a 1944 German Nazi massacre in Sant'Anna di Stazzema.

As Reuters adds, European ministers are eager to hear whether Washington is now committed to overthrowing Assad, who is backed by Russia. They also want the United States to put pressure on Moscow to distance itself from Assad.

Once again reiterating the policy confusion over Syria, Tillerson said at the weekend that the defeat of Islamic State remained the U.S. priority, while the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley said that "regime change" in Syria was also a priority for Trump.

The mixed messages have confused and frustrated European allies, who are eager for full U.S. support for a political solution based on a transfer of power in Damascus.

"The Americans say they agree, but there's nothing to show for it behind (the scenes). They are absent from this and are navigating aimlessly in the dark," said a senior European diplomat, who declined to be named.

Italy, Germany, France and Britain have invited foreign ministers from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Jordan and Qatar to sit down with the G7 group on Tuesday morning to discuss Syria. All oppose Assad's rule.

The foreign ministers' discussions in Tuscany will prepare the way for a leaders' summit in Sicily at the end of May where foreign ministers will also talk about growing tensions with North Korea, as the United States moves a navy strike group near the Korean peninsula amid concerns over Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions.

They will also discuss Libya. Italy is hoping for vocal support for a United Nations-backed government in Tripoli which has struggled to establish its authority even in the city, let alone in the rest of the violence-plagued north African country. The Trump administration has not yet defined a clear policy and Rome fears Washington may fall into step with Egypt and Russia, which support general Khalifa Haftar, a powerful figure in eastern Libya.

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FreeShitter's picture

Fuck tillerson...Ever since this asshole got on board gas  gone up over 50 cents.

HowdyDoody's picture

Ironic that the Russians are now using the phrase TINA "There is no alternative". That was beloved of the Sainted Margaret Thatcher when she was setting the foundations of the one party state that is now the UK.

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WTFRLY's picture

Why is there confusion? The Greater Israel Plan is clearly the policy. Joo World Order is driving the bus now.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture


Meanwhile Tillerson, who on Monday was in Italy for a meeting of G7 foreign ministers in Tuscany, said the United States will hold responsible anyone who commits crimes against humanity,

...except, of course, the US and its allies.

beemasters's picture

"...the United States will hold responsible anyone who commits crimes against humanity"

LOL. Only when it serves the elite's interests.

new game's picture

derranged mutherfuckers. special privledged fuks. psychopaths.

so rome does, rome goes...

wildbad's picture

Vlad is the only statesman on the world stage today.

When he decides that its not worth talking anymore we are all in deep shit as a species.

CIA , Deep State, Shadow government, CFR, Trilateral, Bilderberg, Rockerfeller, Rothschild, Venetian Black Pool...whatever you want to call the soulless kabal...they have brought us to the fourth turning in the glib belief that they and theirs will survive.

This time if fear they are wrong on all counts.

new game's picture

plus for 4th turning...

FrozenGoodz's picture

Tillerson ... the heiled village idiot ... Putin's playing Chess, Trumps playing twister

BullyBearish's picture

hilary'son: "i'm just tryin' to get us some more of that earl"...

WordSmith2013's picture

Unless the "Zionist Neocons" back story is understood, nothing makes sense.




TRUMPAGEDDON Was Planned By Neocons All Along,
POTUS Taken Captive by Fanatical Warmongers
Donald Trump's picture
Donald Trump (not verified) WordSmith2013 Apr 10, 2017 1:06 PM

Some politicians think too much of themselves,

like this drunk for example: Boris Johnson.

G-7 Ministers Aim to Pressure Russia to Stop Backing Assad


NAV's picture

Putin has said if Syria is attacked Russia will defend Syria. Putin is operating one hundred percent for Russian interests in the Russian zone of influence – the eastern Mediterranean. And alas for Trump and his bully buddy Tillerson, they do not face a weakened Gaddafi in the streets.

In short, if the United States should happen to attack a Russian ship, Putin has no choice but to counterattack U.S. forces.

Remember Syria is Russia’s back yard. You think she doesn’t have any missiles? Those missiles take seconds to get to the Mediterranean.

The worst thing you can have is a big bunch of naval vessels sitting in the water where they are confined. The one who will flinch would be Trump.

But Putin will attack only when it is clear that Russian sovereignty is attacked in the first place.

The Russian people will back Putin. To the Russians, Putin is their country's savior.

When Alexander Solzhenitsyn returned in 1994 after 20 years in exile and disillusioned with the spiritual vacuity of the West to a country whose raw oligarchy manufactured pseudo- capitalism and marauding tycoons horrified him, Putin became the country's savior.

"Putin inherited a ransacked and bewildered country, with a poor and demoralized people," Alexander Solzhenitsyn told the German magazine Der Spiegel in a 2007 interview. "And he started to do what was possible, a slow and gradual restoration. These efforts were not noticed, nor appreciated, immediately. In any case, one is hard-pressed to find examples in history when steps by one country to restore its strength were met favorably by other governments."

Alas, America has no savior. America, for whom the bell tolls.

wildbad's picture

nice wrap up. i agree

HowdyDoody's picture

Rumor alert: Tillerson will make Russia an offer it cannot refuse

- Give up Assad and you can rejoin the G7 group of cuntries.

cstu7011's picture

and now all the rats are here.

Tarjan's picture

Very well put.



Renfield's picture

As new game replied to wildbad, + for 4th Turning. Yes, it is. FWIW, here's how I bet it plays out:

Remember Sean Spicer's upside-down flag pin? I think it was around mid-March. Trump's family was being threatened, his fortune threatened, poss. blackmail re: pedo investigations. So Trump called out to his intel for help.

The problem was this: the US, hence the Zionists, are nuclear-armed. Zionists losing, they threaten nuclear defeat – if they go, we all go. The Zionists are Satanists whose goal is death. They have already proven they have no problem using nuclear bombs (1945); they will not hesitate to do so again, in the US or anywhere else, even if it 'takes them down too' (but they have already built nuclear shelters, etc. for themselves).

If the US stock market or US dollar go down, they'll go nuclear. If they are kicked out of the Middle East or thwarted in their NWO One-World Government under Israel, they'll go nuclear. If they are prosecuted for pedophilia and other satanic practices, they'll go nuclear.

So Trump goes to the 'dark side', begins invasion of Syria, just as the Zionists want, on 7th April 2017. His intel realised the only way to take down the Zionists, short of nuclear war, is revolution. The people must be goaded and stirred up, threatened to the point that they finally unify and take back their 'government' (take down the Zionist corporation). So they all agree that Trump will now go with every one of the Zionists' plans, so the Zionists will think they are winning.

All through summer, we can expect betrayal after betrayal from Trump, as he goes full-on Zionist. The Zionists won't be allowed to actually achieve any real victories (e.g., a successful invasion of Syria), but they will be kept just at bay all through the summer while Trump and his intel do their best to make it look to them as though they've won. We'll get no relief from Zionist false flags, since increased social disorder is satisfying to them. Things will get worse and worse until the people are so desperate and angry that they finally mount a resistance.

Probably in early auturmn: As V says, "With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty." Whatever that catalyst is, it will probably happen around autumn, and it will spark a real attempt at resistance from the people, who have had all summer to get clear on who the real enemy is (i.e., the White House Swamp). This resistance from the goaded and oppressed people will seem to the Zionists easy to put down, but to their increasing surprise, it will snowball into something bigger, and bigger, and bigger, helped secretly by various foreign powers led by Russia, China, and Iran, but including many countries of the world, including various 'white hat' intel groups in the West. Lulled into complacency through the summer, by the time the MSM and 'Five Eyes' allies realise what’s happening and try to resist, it will be too big to turn.

A real revolution will be the result. It will be over before mid-winter, maybe by early 2018. I don't know what the new 'provisional government' would look like, but it will likely be fronted by Americans. Then we will see rapid trials, for both war crimes and pedophilia / Satanic practices, and a currency 'reset', most likely involving gold, silver, platinum, and cryptocurrencies. Then many other changes will follow, changes that most of us cannot imagine from here.

chunga's picture

I like the idea of resistence because there really isn'y anything left. Trump's betrayal proves this without a shadow of doubt.

The result of what's happened in Syria has been further splintering of the population, with maybe ~ half of Trump supporters now hating his guts. 

Renfield's picture

Victory can come only from the people, not from one flawed guy, even if he is 'President'... and the people can do it, but only when they realise no-one is coming to 'save' them, and only when they hurt badly enough that they are forced to wake up. Judging from the furious reaction to Trump's turning, the people know what's up. And they'll know it increasingly clear over the next few months.

I say, we should let ourselves be 'manipulated' into anger, into rage. It is justified and appropriate, and the only thing left that will work. The hard part will be making sure it is focused on the appropriate targets.

chunga's picture

By nature I'm mild-mannered and have no desire to hurt anyone but for the past few years I've felt like fighting, I'm just not exactly sure who.

We've backed up way out in the country bothering no one. If push comes to shove I'm not backing up anymore.

Renfield's picture

Me too. I'm Canuck-Aussie, and we're backed up right to the wall, out in the country same as you. We have no space left to back up to.

In the "Five Eyes", it's just as bad as for you Yanks. We're just quieter about it.

Americans are not good at shutting up and suffering in silence -- and I love you guys for that! Hope we evolve to be the same.

wildbad's picture

hope you buried some guns before they did the swepp up a few years back.

wildbad's picture

howdy Renfield,
i'm tired. i'm glad you are game theorying this out but for me that scenario is a little Zionist heavy, not that I have a better description of the invisible evil.

IMO there is the political sword hanging over the world and the economic / debt sword. which one will fall first or cause the second to fall or whether we all fall into the soup simultaneously goes a dimension too deep for my little pocket calculator of a brain.

i listened to Matt Bracken recently who said something I thought true: "We're not facing a financial problem we're facing a math problem." Zero growth, zero interest burgeoning world debt. Trump playing 4D chess or just caving in to the Zionists if was anything other than that all along, I just don't know.

I do like alex Jone's take though that even if Trump wants to put the "Traitor" stamp on his legacy, we, the true carriers of the flag shall not allow that either and need to fight all comers, however they are dressed and however well they have hornswaggled us.

i'm tired of the intrigue and the thievery and the deep evil marching around in every corner of the planet but I'm not too tired to fight.

Just wish I could see through the fog a bit better.

Renfield's picture

Howdy back. That's OK, I don't have to be right and I don't care if people agree or don't, good for them. But that's what I think so figured I'd put it out there, time will tell. I'm tired too, more than a decade of watching this shit, enduring this WW3 that's been ongoing since 2001 and its concurrent Depression. All I can do at the present moment is watch it all, and think about it. Trump was only a symbol of something bigger, and we all know that. We're all waiting for the right moment, when it's strike back or die -- Bundy was a symptom. And if we're too tired to fight, we might as well die right now, b/c that's what the 'government' (I call them the Syndicate) obviously wants.

Thought this article said a mouthful:


And if you're in the American Midwest (or South), you're my brother. Sorry for calling all y'all Yanks, I know how that is. :-)

TheGardener's picture

"She" is a fully fledged troll. I like our optimism.

Geoff777's picture

I admire your optimism and faith in the Human Spirit, Renfield. However, I just don't see that happening. Even if an uprising did kick off, with the media, the police and probably the military taking orders from the satanists, we wouldn't stand much chance.

What might help is an International "Sick Day" where everyone just stops work for one day to protest the sick state of the planet, with threats of more to come. Kick them in the wallet, where it hurts.

Renfield's picture

Appreciate your explaining the reddie, talk on. Worst thing any of us can do at this point is shut the fuck up. (I already took a permanent Sick Day!) Said my piece so going back to lurking & reading comments now.

TheGardener's picture

Encouragement to real action - false flag facilitators- or old school agent provocateus. Check out this agents posting

history before it gets tactically removed.

herbivore's picture

Is it not now manifestly evident that Trump lied us into voting for him? He committed blatant fraud against millions of American people. Isn't that a form of voter fraud that he committed? Can he be sued for that? He did it before he was elected, when he was still a private citizen. Isn't that actionable in a legal sense? Perhaps a class action lawsuit could be initiated?

TheGardener's picture

Does it make you feel good to sound like a bot ? I`m all ears even for the rants of drunks, but you sound like a drunk bot programmed by someone being paid by desired buzzwords per line or worse. Leant myself far out the window the other day, but it was you I thought about as an exception to my general statement about most woman being rather reasonable and welcome here.  Either way , gloves off , silly chick based on your previous comments or based on what you just said : stupid as a bot goes ; neutralized of gender as in bots robs the desired authenticy that is highly monitored and appreciated at this premises but I`m just giving your master ideas and by claiming to be a female you pulled the master switch to turn off males critical thinking abilities anyway .

But you, Renfield , aint no bitch.

wren's picture

<--Would rather my kids stay in the US and not get involved with protecting people that don't understand peace.

<--Want to send my kids to fight Assad in Syria in the name of OPEC, the Petro Dollar, and the Federal Reserve.

quadraspleen's picture

That's ok. She'll have an "accident" soon and normal service will be resumed

Turbo_diesel's picture

Don't forget crimes commited against humanity, conducted by or in service of US or Israeli interests (redundant?) are exempt from being held responsible.

Antifaschistische's picture

"...the United States will hold responsible anyone who commits crimes against humanity"

yep...seriously?   We're back to being the world police again?  "Make the World Great Again!"  

Can people around the country now complain to Tillerson about crimes committed against them...since Tiller has committed to resolving them all.

Turbo_diesel's picture

Team America, Fuck Yeah! Coming along to save the motherfuking day, yeah!

Antifaschistische's picture

Crimes against humanity....hmmm, maybe Tillerson should visit the ENTIRE continent of Africa since he wants to be such a hero.

cstu7011's picture

On "certain" crimes against humanity.... the profitable ones

Itinerant's picture

Try to imagine what will happen if Assad were to step down. Would you hold elections in rebel territory? Who exactly would protect ethnic and religious minorities who have already been decimated in many areas? What was the first demand of the "protesters" in March 2011? [Abolish mixed schools for boy/girls, and revoke the ban on full-face burka's for teachers]. What kind of people would rule, even imagining that the front-lines would stay in place?

These people are so delusional that they think they can organize some kind of liberal democracy without Assad, with parties and checks and balances. The also don't realize Assad had overwhelming support in the last two elections, which were monitored by observers, so, representing a higher standard than USA elections of which everybody says are too flawed to allow monitoring.

Without Assad various brands of jihadi's will fight each other, a large part of the population will die of privation, and all ethnic, religious, and linguistic minorities, many of which have survived the last two thousand years, will be completely exterminated.

lucitanian's picture

Totally agree, but I think (((their))) plan as expressed in the report to Netanyahu back in the 90's by the Neocon Zionists (A Clean Break:
A New Strategy for Securing the Realm
) was to "Balkanize" Syria turning it into a number of powerless and controlled mini states, kept in perpetual conflict for territory and resources that could be "managed" by Israel's military dominance, whenever they got too far out of line. Of course the plan so far is working with the Kurds in the north, and the Shiia in the south, more or less represented by the fractured rump of Iraq. The prize that is yet to be established seems to be the Suni bit, to be controlled and managed by the, pseudo-Zionist Saudis, and their Gulf allies. If you like they are presently represented by Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, and ISIS, with the financial, technical and military assistance of NATO/CIA/Mossad.

There was never any intention to maintain a sovereign and unified Syria, and the so called protests against Assad that you mentioned were bought and paid for by the same old gang Israel Nº. 1, Neocons that introduced color revolutions where convenient to create destabilization, namely as well as Soros, and the CIA funded National Endowment for Democracy, etc.

But to this plan the removal of Assad is essential, and the fact that European states are backing it is the height of immoral hypocrisy, if you start going back to the history of the establishment of these nations like Iraq, and Syria at the end of WWI, as well as their acquiescence to the creation of Israel itself, despite the recommendations against a Jewish controlled Palestine, by their own political experts at the time, i.e., Bell, Cox, Lawrence, etc.

So, when you write "Without Assad various brands of jihadi's will fight each other, a large part of the population will die of privation,..." That is exactly what was, and still is the plan. And the fact that meetings like the foreign Min. of G7 or the next conference in May are deciding the future of Syrians, with this in mind is the root of the problem.

Matteo S.'s picture

Then the US can put to trial all its leaders for the past 50 years.

cstu7011's picture

If they are profitable enough...????

Chupacabra-322's picture

War Crimes? Shit! Now where'd I put that list? Oh, here it is:

Irrefutable proof of the absolute, complete, open Lawlessness by the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC., its CEO & Board of Directors.

1. Torture .
2. WMD lie to the American People.
3. Lying the American People into War.
4. Illegal Wars of Aggression.
5. Arming, funding & training of terror organizations by the State Dept. / CIA & members of CONgress.
7. McCain meets with ISIS (Pics available).
8. Clapper lies to CONgress.
9. Brennan lies to CONgress & taps Congressional phones / computers.10. Lynch meets Clinton on tarmac.
11. Fast & Furious deals with the Sinaloa Cartel.
12. Holder in Contempt of CONgress.
13. CIA drug / gun running / money laundering through the tax payer bailed out TBTFB.
14. Illegal NSA Spying on the American People.
15. DNC Federal Election Crime / Debbie Wasserman Shultz.
16. Hillary Clinton email Treason.
17. Clinton Foundation pay to play RICO.
18. Anthony Weiner 650,000 #PizzaGate Pedo Crimes.
19. Secret Iran deal.
20. Lynch takes the Fifth when asked about Iran deal
21. FBI murders LaVoy Finicum

At the current moment we're completely Lawless.

We have been for quite some time. In the past, their Criminality was "Hidden in plain view."

Now it's out in the open, in your face Criminality & Lawlessness. Complete debachary.
Thing is, the bar & precedent has been set so high among these Criminals I doubt we will ever see another person arrested in our lifetime.

Vageling's picture

That was the first thing that caught my attention as well. The hypocrisy is dripping off that statement. Welcome to Bizarro World. 

Then again. What did I expect. Like I said yesterday. These people are morally and ethically bankrupt. To hide it they project it on to others.