Report: British Intelligence Agencies, In Addition to Six Other Nations, Were All Spying on Trump

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About a month ago, Fox suspended Judge Nap for suggesting British intelligence had spied on Donald Trump. The media went hysterical, saying the good judge was filled with UFO styled conspiracy theories.

Here was his claim.

A spokesman for the GCHQ at the time called the claims 'nonsense', proclaiming “They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”

Lo and behold, the Guardian is out with an exclusive tonight -- rebuking the GCHQ denial -- confirming that Obama had received information from the British spy agency, possibly to avoid being detected by people investigating FISA warrants. In addition to Britain's GCHQ, Mi6 was also involved, and 4 other nations --  as part of the intelligence gathering apparatus called SIGINT -- who then ferried their findings to Obama. The spying nations were Germany, Estonia, Poland and Australia.
Another guardian source said both France and the Netherlands were possible contributors to the Trump spying ring too.
CNN reporting:

The GCHQ became aware of  'suspicious interactions' in late 2015.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.

In typical spin, the Guardian's source posited the notion that something improper had taken place between the Russians and Trump.

“It looks like the [US] agencies were asleep,” the source added. “They [the European agencies] were saying: ‘There are contacts going on between people close to Mr Trump and people we believe are Russian intelligence agents. You should be wary of this.’
“The message was: ‘Watch out. There’s something not right here.’”

The Guardian claims the GCHQ head, Robert Hannigan, passed the information in the summer of 2016 to the CIA boss, John Brennan. In turn, Brennan told the 'gang of eight' in the House and Senate that there was evidence Russia was trying to swing the election towards Trump, then reported by the NYT.
According to the Guardian, intelligence agencies were progressing in their attempts to tie the hacking of John Podesta's email box, Russia, and the Trump team.

“They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion,” the source said. “This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material.”

We eagerly await their findings.

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geo_w's picture

So first there was no surveillance and now everyone including you mom was in on it. Nothing to see here...err to much to see here, move along.

Northern Flicker's picture

I am not sure this article rings quite true. If NSA has collected everything already, these foreign intelligence agencies were just annexing the NSA database on behalf of Obama. They didn't (necessarily) initiate this spying. Isn't that what the judge is alleging?

DaBard51's picture

Any listen to tarmac conversations?




When nine hundred years old you become, look this good you will not.

roadhazard's picture

Twist it, McFly. Trumps people should not have been talking to russians that were the ones being listened to. You keep spinning it until you can't.

I am very happy that people were listening in on  conversations that included Trumps people. I would expect that to happen to any candidate talking to russians or Chinese or whoever.

Setarcos's picture

If "Trump's people" were talking to Russians, so what?  IF any conversation had been possibly treasonous, say, then we'd never know about it, unless all involved were too idiotic to use secure methods of communication.  Not too hard to write a note on paper, for instance.

You'd have to be paranoid (are you?) to suppose automatically that "Trump's people" were doing something wrong.  Why on Earth would you be "very happy" that everyone can be spied on anyway.  Strange.

All that said I am no fan of Trump, though I'd hoped he would be better than Swampy Hitlery - who now Trump is best buddies with AGAIN.

Trump has broken all his rhetorical electioneering promises/assertions and has gone "full neocon" with his Tomahawk attack on Syria and, as if that was not enough, now having dropped a MOAB in Afghanistan.

SummerSausage's picture

If talking to Russians was illegal Clinton & Podesta - both brothers - should be in jail.  Pay for play IS illegal and both Clintons and John Podesta took Russian money to betray US interests.  That's what is public knowledge, provable and should be prosecuted.

If all these countries spied on Trump and STILL don't have one scintilla of scandal either Trump is innocent or all the intelligence agencies of all these countries is incompetent.

Which is it?

hibou-Owl's picture

Australia has always had its head up the yankies arse.

I hope like hell thing blows up in their face, its unbelieveable how corrupt the world has become.

Setarcos's picture

How right you are!!  As far back as the Boer War, Australian troops were sent overseas to die.  Then came the pointless and failed invasion of Turkey (Gallipoli) during WW1, for instance, also the really needless involvement in WW2.  Then along came Vietnam and "All the way with LBJ.", which I and thousands of others protested against to no avail ... bloody never ending shite.  Australia never stopped being a colony of the London/Washington/Rothschild Empire of Chaos.

There was one attempt at independence with the Whitlam Government in the mid-1970s, but a CIA coup ended it, with the help of Rupert Murdoch and the masses being too STUPID to realize that the lies being told in Murdoch's MSM were destroying their best possible hopes.  I quit politics completely by about 1982.

chindit13's picture

FlyBoy isn't smart enough to get that he's wrong, and he's too stupid to be an FSB cut-out. Even the FSB has standards. FlyBoy is simply a clown---or as the world's intel community would call him---an unwitting dupe.

Pissing into the wind, I offer this comment:

To those with an agenda, to those who simply cannot understand, or to those working as cut-outs for the FSB, the ‘subtleties’ between reality and so-called judge Napolitano will never be appreciated. Little Nappi is still wrong, even if the Slut and Groper Network brought him back.

There is normal and regular ‘liaison’ between the various intel agencies of the world. When one comes across---in the normal course of their own nation’s business---material that would be of interest to an ally or friendly service, the material is shared. Not only would GCHQ do this, but Germany’s BND (which comes directly under Merkel, in a relationship even closer than the CIA/NSA and POTUS), the various French services, the other ‘Five Eyes’ nations, and even the Baltic nations would do this unrequested. It is business as usual for the intel services of most countries to monitor the actions of known Russian operatives. The same regular surveillance would be true if the operatives were, for example, Chinese or North Korean.

So extensive were the contacts between members of Trump’s team and known Russian FSB operatives that numerous foreign services shared the material with the US. As the article states, for a long time the flow of shared intel went unheeded, perhaps out of concern for the optics of it, or perhaps out of a general hesitancy to accept such explosive information. Obviously at a certain point, as the flow became an avalanche, those tasked with looking into such untoward contacts began to act.

Several things will result from this latest news. One is that it will be misrepresented by those who will look bad, such as Team Trump and their dwindling ranks of supporters. Second will be that now caught red handed by multiple sources in a swathe of countries, Russia will deny it---and its cut-outs who work on its behalf ‘publishing’ what the FSB and Putin want will collect their pay and play up the Putin Party line. The third is that the ‘accused’ individuals on Team Trump will be sweating so badly that it is likely at least one will try to make a deal with the DoJ. They will do this out of fear, knowing that Vladimir Putin does not like loose ends and may order his operatives to do away with those whose use has ended and who now pose a threat by detailing what his operatives tried to do during the election.

There are a few members of current or former Team Trump who are avoiding ‘tea’ and hoping they do not get Litveneko’d or Politkovskaya’d. One will turn State’s evidence in order to save his butt. It is unlikely even AIG, who was willing to insure the entire world in 2008, would write a life insurance policy on certain Team Trump members now, and the Trumpers know it. A similar lack of coverage might be expected to be withheld from FSB cut-outs operating in the US or Western nations.

geo_w's picture

Another "wall of text" with NO facts. 

11b40's picture

So, tell us what they were talking about. All these conversations with muh RRRRussians. Uranium? Oops. That would be the Clintons. Hotels, maybe? Golf courses? Come on. Clue us in.

Aristofani's picture

Everyone is spying on each other. What a "profound" revelation!

I guess, the poodle of the neo-cons is going to moab everybody now!

Some people just want to piss into the wind and still not face up to more important things going on!

Pickleton's picture

You're clearly a leftard so I have to ask if you're under the erroneous impression that the dimocrat party of terrorism, racism and oppression were somehow tackling the "important things".


Ghost who Walks's picture

This is a curious assembly of nations. The UK and Australia are already part of an intelligence group that intercepts and shares signal information with the USA. Germany, Estonia and Poland are strange bedfellows in this group.

Victory_Garden's picture

Thank you Sir Fly for your good works.

Much appreciation for all truthbearers.

Darkness, is but Light revealed.

X-22 latest.:




Got quality each breath?



new game's picture

ditto thanks fly!!!

truth make me whole and real

clarity of mind, comes to mind-lol.

food for common sense reality.

Cutter's picture

What is remarkable, is where is the "incidental" intercepts of Hillary's campaign officials talking to foreign governments? If this was just incidental, then certainly foreign governments are monitoring the communications of many foreign officials, where they incidentally intercepted Hillary and her campaign and foundation communicating with foreign officials. But apparently, communications regarding Hillary were of no interest to GCHQ or the other countries. Which drives to a political motivation.

Dude-dude's picture

Everything Hillary has typed, written, spoken, every place she's been over the past 15 years is stored in Bluffdale.   

HRClinton's picture

How dumb can some of you be?

It's not about me or about Trump having "improper contacts with Russians".

It's about using the narrative as a weapon to reign in and control nationalist Trump. Apparently it worked, given his newfound religion.

No such control is needed for me, as I'm a confirmed Globalista.

(Was that simple and clear enough for you?)

Pickleton's picture

"as I'm a confirmed Globalista"


Oh, so you're a global communist.  And somehow you keep trying to call others dumb.  You have to be a real mouth breather.

new game's picture

dirt always works in the power structure. and everyone of them is dirty dirt scum bags of shit.

the way it is. NONE OF THESE WEALTHY FUKS ARE CLEAN, another the way it is reality...

geo_w's picture

Clean? So what is the cut-off for clean? Minimum wage like you?

ChickaBoom's picture

When will the spies and MSM start talking about Podesta.....

Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta sat on the board of a small energy company alongside Russian officials that received $35 million from a Putin-connected Russian government fund, a relationship Podesta failed to fully disclose on his federal financial disclosures as required by law.

HRClinton's picture

For the Globalist Elite, it's not about your damn middle-class BS morality or law.

It's about their Global AGENDA and CONTROL.

The things that you lot care about, are merely Commodities. Commodities, to be negotiated or manipulated by the Elite.

Sorry for the truth pill, folks. Your clerics are keeping the truth from you, to keep themselves in business. 

divingengineer's picture

You dumb cunt, you are preaching to the choir.

philipat's picture

As the old British TV series "Yes Minister" famously quipped "Never believe anything until it has been officially denied". Thusly, when GCHQ came out vwey quickly and forcefully in denial (Which in part was responsible for the excellent Judge Napolitano's "holiday") it was tanatamount to confrimation that it was true. So this latest "confirmation" is largely unnecessary.

Question: The US counterpart Agency to GCHQ is NSA not CIA (whose counterpart is MI6). So why would GCHQ go to the CIA? And, irrespective, is it not the prerogative of the FBI to conduct such (supposedly legally approved) domestic intelligence gathering?

SoDamnMad's picture

Didn't Ms May emphatically deny British spying on Trump? If so, she is a lying bitch. But then we knew that already.

philipat's picture

They're all the same. As Juncker so eloquently put it (In between bottles of cognac) "When it gets difficult you have to lie".

But in fairness to Daisy May, I don't think she did specifically deny it. The HMG statement was along the lines of "This accusation is irresponsible and should be ignored". Which again is typical of all of these fuckers when they make non-denial denials so as to leave "Plausible deniability". Diplomacy is not the same as honesty......

chunga's picture

Napolitano would have been a lot better Attorney General than Sessions. 

Meatier Shower's picture

He would make an even better Supreme Court Justice.

DirtySanchez's picture

No doubt about it.
His age is a factor.
Many SCOTUS are getting confirmed by their mid fifties.

torabora's picture

SCOTUS makes a mess out of most stuff

philipat's picture

Yes absolutely. He would also make an excellent Supreme Court Judge? But putting it into perspective, we should be grateful not to lose one of the few cable contributors who actually makes any sense, common or otherwise!!

max_leering's picture

Brennan is the leaker/traitor... get info, leak to the media... rinse, repeat... hang that bastard by his nutsack on Main St., USA

Aristofani's picture

Fucking illiterate PHILISTINE, backward, vile, vicious genocidal americans. You mother fucking white boys have reeked havoc and murder and rape and total destruction on the entire middle east since the first crusades in 1066.? I wont talk about the rest of the planet, your own country and the hell you have generated.

What about you all just fist fuck each other and leave the rest of the world alone and we wont give a shit about the crap you tell each other.

Pickleton's picture

"You mother fucking white boys have reeked havoc and murder and rape and total destruction on the entire middle east "


Good.  Fuck you and all the other goat fucking neanderthals.

SummerSausage's picture

You're doing a fine job of shitting where you eat without any white boys.  

divingengineer's picture

Oh, you ain't seen nothin yet Aristofani.
Us "white boys" are about to go nuclear on the barbaric hordes. We finally have a leader with the resolve to carry out the final fist fuck upon the world.

Aristofani's picture

Dumb fucks who think ZH thinks this is all fine and dandy. Obviously you read it with your heads or summersausages up your arses.

"Making america great again" ? The only grating you will be doing is the stones you'll be trying to make into flour for bread to eat.

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