Ron Paul: "Peace Is Popular... People Don't Start The Wars"

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Authored by Chris Campbell via lfb.org,

Last week, Ron Paul and many other notables in the liberty sphere took to the stage in Lake Jackson, Texas, for a very important symposium.

The topic of discussion? War and Peace in the Age of Trump.

As promised, today we present to you highlights from Ron Paul’s speech, Peace is Popular.

Lots of great stuff to cover.

So let’s get to it…

Ron Paul on liberty…

“Liberty is a young idea,” Dr. Paul began. “It’s really not something that’s been around for thousands and thousands of years. And the benefits of liberty have just been rather recent. I think of the Industrial Revolution as a consequence of an understanding of economic liberty. And with the tremendous advancements that have existed with the Industrial Revolution I’ve always wondered, why don’t we advance in the social revolution?

“If we learn how to build so many wonderful things and the standard of living goes up for so many people and we have all of these luxuries, why is it that we haven’t figured out how to stay out of killing each other?

“So at the same time we’ve had all of this advancement that helped us with technological things and the Industrial Revolution, we’ve had more killing than ever before.

“Just think of the 20th century, with all of that advancement. I can’t help but think about my dad talking to me about when the family dairy started. He delivered milk in a horse and wagon. And that was at the beginning of the last century. It was so recent and yet we haven’t advanced very much in this social sphere of how we get along with people. I am an optimist because I believe we should be able to do that. And when you look at the history of mankind, it’s really so very young.”

“Peace is popular.”

“I think peace is popular. Very popular. Not just among us, I think with all people. The big question is, if peace is popular and people want it, why are there so many wars?

“And that’s really a serious question… what’s going on? Especially when I go to the campuses and talk to young people, they’re not saying, ‘Yeah, let’s go have another war. We’d like to go off and get exposed to the killing and we want all the death to deal with. And we want to deal with inflation. No. That group of individuals are generally less pro-war than the rest.

“I can remember one time that I made a charge that this particular piece of legislation was pro-war. And it was on the side of the Republicans that were promoting this piece of legislation. And boy, I had one ex-military official come up to me. He was so annoyed, he said: ‘I am not pro-war!’

“They don’t see themselves that way. And yet, they are pro-war. If I had to look back and guess on the number of people I’ve met throughout my lifetime… you know, from grade school on up and the many people I’ve met in the past 15 or 20 years in politics… tens of thousand, and exposed to hundreds of thousands of people, I would say that 90% of the people I come into contact with are really pro peace.

“Peace is what they want. Why is it that although 90% of the people really want to live in peace, we don’t live in peace?

The problem of war…

“Our problem is not so much the people become supportive of war or promote the war. Too many of them are very apathetic and complacent and just go along. But the big problem is, that the people, the citizens, the people who suffer from the war, don’t start the wars. The real problem that we have to understand is it’s the government and the government policies that cause the war and that’s what we have to restrain.

“So I think what happens… is people who have psychopathic and aggressive personalities and enjoy telling other people how to live — whether it’s in a social, economic or military sense — they like power. There is an opening and those people themselves don’t have much resistance. And governments tend to have, over the centuries, assumed a lot more power. And this just opens up the door for people who just want the power. And even those who go with good intentions to Washington, they are consumed with this attitude and they are part of the system.

“One term I don’t like is ‘moderation in politics,’ because I believe it’s a sacrifice of principles. What I like to think about in politics as far as making corrections because there’s so many imperfections, is to work with coalitions. And that is, there are a lot of people that might not be true libertarians, but they have a set of principles where they’d like to see a lot less killing and a lot less war and there’s no reason in the world we can’t be talking to the Dennis Kucinich’s of the world. Who will stand up for peace and this, to me, is I think the real answer. Moderates, when they come together, they have to sacrifice their true conviction.

Although the non-aggression principle, if widely adopted, would solve many incessant problems we face today, “One thing you can’t solve,” says Dr. Paul, “is the problem of good and evil. Adams said, ‘We the founders have given you a republic if you can keep it.’ And he said the moral standings of the people will make the difference. When the people become immoral, the system doesn’t work. At the same time, the problem is the immoral people get into government.

Why secession and nullification are important…

In order to keep government in check, says Paul, we need to have a clear definition of the role of government.

“The role and purpose of government should be to protect liberty. That’s it. That’s what our goal should be.”

In order to do so, we need to repeal the vast majority of what today’s government does.

“You have to have a system where the government is strictly limited. What would it mean? It would mean, first off, that we should be able to have a position in a county like ours, that our states should always have a right to secede. It’s the right to secede that’s important. That would hold the federal government in check. The government would have to be careful. But even if they had nullification, which is a strong issue of Jefferson. Just so we as a people, the local people, the local and state governments, didn’t like what the feds were doing, and if they’re violating the Constitution, you oughta be able to opt out and nullify it. That would hold a big check on the federal government as well.

“And the neat part about this is it’s coming. We are going to have chaos. We’re going to have economic chaos. We’re going to have the political fallout from our foreign interventionism. The world will turn against us and we are going to have an opportunity for a lot of nullification. It’s already happening.”

“I think it’s fantastic that the issue of the ridiculous War on Drugs is coming to an end because the states and the people are nullifying these laws and saying ‘stay away.’  I hope that doesn’t get reversed with this administration, but at least we’re making progress there. And I think that is great.

“I was out in Arizona, because they’re passing a bill out there and it’s very popular. Trying to follow the Constitution on the money issue. Because the directive is to the states. The states are not allowed to use anything other than gold and silver as legal tender. So who broke the law? The government broke the law. They were explicit in the Constitution that you can’t counterfeit. That you can’t debase the currency. And they were very explicit. We’re not allowed to debase the currency. But the government is. And that is why this principle, that basic Bastiat principle, that if you and I cannot do something, if you and I can’t steal from people, we can’t debase the currency, and we can’t rob and kill and do all of these things, why in the world have we allowed our governments to do that?

“We have to curtail that power. So we just can’t just go out and kill people because it’s against the law and it’s immoral… why do we allow our governments to do this constantly? With bombs and missiles and threats and boycotts… all of the things we do. We have to be able to apply these basic principles that have been understood. But it’s turned out that our governments did this to hold us in check. To say, ‘You can’t do this. You can’t do that. You bend the rules, we’re going to get you.’

“But they’re exempt. And this sucks in the people who love that power. And most people are too lackadaisical and too apathetic.

“We need to get rid of the apathy. We need to stand up and be engaged. Everybody has a responsibility. And I’ve often talked about the responsibility of us as individuals.”

We are the eight percent.

Dr. Paul makes an important point we’ve made here in our virtual pages plenty of times before. Democracy obscures the truth of how changes in society are really made.

All throughout history, it has been a creative minority, not 51% of the population, that has helped bring incredible leaps of human progress to fruition. A relatively small group of changemakers blazed the trail and the rest of the population, seeing this new path was a better option than the status quo’s, simply traipsed through.

Today is no different.

“I think that we need eight percent of the population to really change the world,” says Dr. Paul. “Eight percent to lead the charge.”

If you’re reading this, it’s very likely you belong to that eight percent.

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BaBaBouy's picture

Why the feck do we need these leaders anyway ...
Just run the constitution in a supercomputer with AI...

Future Jim's picture

They Live

Learn how we know the cabal is real.

WTFRLY's picture

It's not people, it's the creatures masquerading as people

Yukon Cornholius's picture

Ron Paul figures he needs about 29 million Americans to get on board with making radical change. Good luck with that.

Giant Meteor's picture

Correct.

Snorster, The Black Swan Is On The Wing

Never get's old .. "The International Banker Is THe Scum of The Earth" ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1HhQejLoSA

daily westerner's picture
daily westerner (not verified) Giant Meteor Apr 16, 2017 2:57 PM

Ron Paul knows a thing or two.

He could teach that orange goblin some tricks. Let's be honest, we could be better with an OLDER adviser, instead of Javanka.

Trump Comes Across a Bit too "Clever" for His Own Good

http://dailywesterner.com/news/2017-04-16/trump-comes-across-a-bit-too-c...


MEFOBILLS's picture

That's right, its not government.  Government is coerced by special interest groups.  These special interests make out during war, while those who go to war get harmed.

Libertarians cannot grasp this concept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjOAO9bu_eQ&t=58s

 

Here is PCR schooling Stefan Molyneaux.  Stefan has a difficult time standing up to the relentless logic attack of PCR.  But, for Stefan to admit he is wrong, would be to admit much of his libertarian ideas have little merit.

It's a fun video to watch Stefan squirm as his ideology is challenged in a way that cannot be refuted.

FreeShitter's picture

You have/had no leaders, you have owners.

Giant Meteor's picture

They OWN you !

Shoutout to Carlin ...

Laddie's picture

Sadly the Constitution didn't protect us, didn't preserve us.

In effect, with the police standing down, our First Amendment rights are being shut down. Only OUR side gets arrested, virtually, and with the most serious charges.

This is why you wear a helmet and protective glasses at all times, during such an event.
Guy Smashed in the Head with U-Lock by Masked Antifa Thug in Berekely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qKCl9NL1Cg

I have always liked and respected Ron Paul.
He is a good man.
But these are GENOCIDAL times for our people.

Mr Trump now LOVES Yellen and all the rest of it...
Stanley Fischer: A Dual U.S./Israeli Citizen and Pro-Israel Activist as Vice-Chair of the Fed January 5, 2014 by Kevin MacDonald PhD emeritus professor of psychology at California State University - Long Beach

God bless Ron Paul but we need an ALTERNATIVE.

Internet-is-Beast's picture

All people who claim to be Christians should henceforth cut off social relations with non-Christians, including family members. The time has come to reject those who deny Christ.

Christians should stop saying Happy Easter or Merry Christmas to non-Christians and should stop sending or accepting gifts or cards from non-Christians.

My friendly Easter greeting

flaminratzazz's picture

Christians should refrain from pagan holidays, quit lying, cheating, fvking over there fellow man, being hypocritical, taking the plank out their eye so as to take the sliver from their brother's, using God for monetary gain, hating,  gluttony. pride. greed,

Go to any church and look at all the hogs waddling in and out..

Fuck you

asshole.

self absorbed faux righteous prick

MANvsMACHINE's picture

My question to him is, "who's gonna do your taxes?"

Internet-is-Beast's picture

"Go to any church and look at all the hogs waddling in and out.."

holdbuysell's picture

Spot on sadly on your comments on contemporary Christians. From a rather prescient book on the fall of the democratic party (circa 2008), Deer Hunting with Jesus, the author states, to paraphrase:

"Christians pray on Sundays and then prey on everyone else the rest of the week."

flaminratzazz's picture

Like I tell everyone, i have no problem with God or Jesus, but his fan club is a fvking mess.

TwelveOhOne's picture

A coworker had this bumper sticker ripped off his car in the work parking lot: "God please save me from your followers."

Helix6's picture

That's what I like -- an open-minded person.

BTW, did Jesus say that?  Or is it just you?

Zoomorph's picture

Turn the other cheek, love your enemy, and continue on. Remember, you will be rewarded in Heaven for all the shit you put up with on Earth!

The priests prefer to keep Christians busy trying to convert others. It both staves off boredom (and the associated dangers of too much thinking, knowledge, science) and it increases the size of the "flock" so that the priests power and wealth increases.

TwelveOhOne's picture

Turn the other cheek, but He also said to sell your garments and purchase a sword.  "A time of war, a time of peace."  https://youtu.be/W4ga_M5Zdn4

Yukon Cornholius's picture

Cuz that's how Jesus would act, right?

Internet-is-Beast's picture

2 Corinthians 6:14-17

Particularily relevant these days when people have become brainwashed with doctrines antithetical to Christianity more than ever before. The Christian religion is collapsing, particularly in Europe where it is being crushed by its enemies. Christians need to band together. The idea is not to be beholden to perfidious reprobates .

In any case, you non-Christians should be happy not to associate with those whom you despise.

May I recommend Solzhenytsen's Harvard Commencment address. It's on YouTube.

DaNuts's picture

Non theists should treat believers with disdain and ridicule them at every available opportunity.

I would like to extend that to Muslims, Christians Hindus and jews who are responsible for as much misery as Governments.

Internet-is-Beast's picture

Sticking out your lower lip and wagging your head, I assume.

John_Coltrane's picture

Its important to remember the "holy trinity":
1)War is a scam
2)Religion is a scam
and of course,
3)Insurance is a scam

Just say no to organized superstition (i.e. religion) (and that includes secular versions such as man-made climate change.

crazytime's picture

 It's as if being a follower of Christ would demand I step away from my church. The thought has crossed my mind. I tired of fellowshipping with people who worship government and turn from God. But sadly that's the way it is everywhere. Someday, when the bombs rain on the US proper, we will know the truth of war. Until that time, caring is optional and biblical interpretation is subjective.

TheEndIsNear's picture

As an atheist, that sounds good to me.

Grave's picture

one day society will be run by algorithms, math is the language of universe.

not a single "governing" structure worked so far, because they are open to exploitation from psychopaths and sociopaths, who always infect society, and because they lack empathy, ethics and morals, they have huge short term advantage over honest hard working people.

a proper system should eliminate this advantage.
it CANNOT be vertically hierarchical system.
it will be decentralized and distributed.

Zoomorph's picture

I hope not. That is such a pathetic goal for humanity. It sounds like a technological twist on "Brave New World". We'd might as well just nuke the planet if we're so hostile to inequality or to power that we're going to invent a system of robots and computers to enforce the opposite.

Yukon Cornholius's picture

Algorithms don't write themselves. Thus they are subject to human command and the same basic flaws still exist. No coder codes perfectly all the time.

francis_the_wonder_hamster's picture

Personally, I don't want any overlord, computerized or otherwise.

That said, there will never be a computer that can adequately apply any sort of rules to human beings, simply because human beings are irrational and unpredictable (and that's not a bad thing).

If you look at the most complex behavioral algorhythms in the world, all of them produce an inordinate amount of 6-sigma events (things that should only occur every few billion years yet seem to happen frequently).  Basically, the real world observations produce far too many tail-end results to be remotely statistically predictable.

The cause?  Human nature.  And I wouldn't want it any other way.

 

Jack's Raging Bile Duct's picture

It's this myth that we need governed that needs to die. The myth that we need governed is what creates the beast which enslaves and murders humanity. "An algorithm" organizing society, as stupid and flawed as that concept is, would be no different.

Government is the vehicle in which all of the good and ordinary people in society are marshaled to support and advance the goals of narcissistic sociopaths that invariably seek the reigns of power. The myth and secular religion of the benevolent state needs to die.

Giant Meteor's picture

Things have a tendency to spin out of control ..

“Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”

— Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

The quote cited above does not appear in transcripts of the Nuremberg trials because although Goering spoke these words during the course of the proceedings, he did not offer them at his trial. His comments were made privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. 

We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

“Why, of course, the people don’t want war,” Goering shrugged. “Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.”

“There is one difference,” I pointed out. “In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.”

“Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp

Giant Meteor's picture

https://pediaview.com/openpedia/Gustave_Gilbert

I would only add, none of these people likely existed, these remarks from Hermann were not made, probably entirely manufactured and yes to your point, snopes is for dopes ..

On the other hand, let us pretend none of that happened and Hermann never existed, nor was imprisoned, and ultimately took his life to cheat the hangman .. poof, gone, never happened ... 

The words contain truth, based upon empiracle evidence, as far as I can ascertain ..

Makes no difference who carries the quote, or who made it ...

I merely offer that I wholly concur with the material points being made, in the quote ...

 

Ecclesia Militans's picture

Governments start wars.

FreeShitter's picture

The Tribe starts wars in the name of banking.

flaminratzazz's picture

but they can create trillions out of thin air..what more could they possibly want?

FreeShitter's picture

They want your soul....who do they serve? satan. This is a spiritual war on earth and the love of money is the root of all evil.

flaminratzazz's picture

Very good,, and now the biggie.. WHY do they serve Satan?

FreeShitter's picture

Because he is the god of this world.

flaminratzazz's picture

Yes, kinda.. but not the REAL reason..

Anyone else?

Anyone?

Bueller?

Ok no takers.. here it is..

Jesus identified them here:

John 8:44-45King James Version (KJV)

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

Ok so to back this up we have Genisis 4.1 FROM the Dead sea scrolls NOT the twisted Scribe(Jew) version..

“And Adam knew his wife Eve, who was pregnant by Sammael [Satan], and she conceived and bare Cain, and he was like the heavenly beings, and not like earthly beings, and she said, I have gotten a man from the angel of the Lord.”

So..the reason that the Jew is as they are is simply because they are descendants of Satan himself

Cain was the offspring of Satan, his line is direct to those who say they are jews but are not.