It's Time To Stop Pretending North Korea Is A Threat To The United States

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Authored by James Holbrooks via,


North Korea is a threat, goes the narrative. And we, as loyal Americans, should fear the potentiality of that fact.

That’s why U.S. aircraft carriers, accompanied by fighter jets and warships, are currently steaming toward the Korean Peninsula.

That’s why the best soldiers the United States military has to offer are currently in South Korea, training — goes the narrative — to take out Kim Jong-un.

That’s why Japan, staunch U.S. ally, is considering deploying troops to South Korea — in preparation for the time when that evil dictator from the north will try to harm Japanese nationals in the south.

Conveniently, if Japan does deploy those troops — and, let’s be honest, they will — that will put the coalition of Japan, South Korea, and the United States together on the Korean peninsula.

Consider that for a moment.

They actually want us to believe that it would take the combined military might of the U.S., Japan, and South Korea to take out Kim Jong-un. There literally is no other way to look at it.

As in all cases when it comes to geopolitical analysis, it helps to look at a map. North Korea is sandwiched between a U.S.-occupied territory to the south and a global superpower, China, to the north.

In what universe does it make sense that Kim Jong-un would think attacking an “enemy” in the region would be beneficial? On Monday, Anti-Media reported on the fact that former Pentagon chief William Perry told CNN in November that North Korea would never strike first because, very simply, Kim doesn’t want to die.

“I do not believe the North Korean regime is suicidal,” he said. “Therefore, I don’t believe they’re going to launch an unprovoked nuclear attack on anyone.”

That’s because Kim has certainly applied to the situation what the mainstream narrative would like you to discard — common sense. With just a dash of it, any logical being can look at the events unfolding and see that North Korea poses no threat, to any surrounding nation, period.

Which poses an immediate question: Why the military buildup in South Korea?

China, incidentally, reportedly just deployed 150,000 troops to its border with North Korea. Much like Japan, the reason given was preparation. Preparation for war was the message between the words.

But it wouldn’t be war with North Korea. That tiny strip of land is merely the buffer between two military juggernauts, the United States and China. That’s World War III, friends, and it has nothing to do with Kim Jong-un.

And since we’re discussing the mainstream narrative, let’s look at the latest on that topic. From a New York Times piece that ran Tuesday:

“Just over a week ago, the White House declared that ordering an American aircraft carrier into the Sea of Japan would send a powerful deterrent signal to North Korea and give President Trump more options in responding to the North’s provocative behavior. ‘We’re sending an armada,’ Mr. Trump said to Fox News last Tuesday afternoon.


“The problem was that the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the three other warships in its strike force were that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula.”

This is a political machine that can’t even keep the narrative coherent within itself, much less the public. And they want us to believe. That’s the crux of it all. They need us to believe. If we don’t, it all falls apart — for them.

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Looney's picture


My neighbor’s Chihuahua barks 24/7 and I don’t like it. Does it mean that I should drive a steamroller through his house?  ;-)


BLOTTO's picture

They cant even launch roman candle fire works properly - ya they are a huge threat.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Kim Jong Un is like a three-year-old with a straight razor. He's probably more of a menace to himself than anyone else, but either way, nothing good can come of it.

Kotzbomber747's picture

"That’s why U.S. aircraft carriers, accompanied by fighter jets and warships, are currently steaming toward the Korean Peninsula."

Are they?

The_Juggernaut's picture

Someone should tell Kim to stop acting like a threat before he gets himself killed.

Stuck on Zero's picture

Anyone who yells that a little pipsqueak country way over there in Asia is a threat to the United States is a threat to the United States.


Pairadimes's picture

We haven't gone to war over an existential threat since the mid-1800s, although Pearl Harbor is arguable in principle, if insufficient in scale.

There certainly has not been an armed conflict involving US forces that was based on concern over the rights of US civilians in seventy years. The oligarchs have been pursuing wealth, and wrapping their avarice in the flag.

The only thing that sustains North Korea right now is a plausible enemy. They make Venezuela right now look positively glamorous. Ignore them, and they will collapse.

BennyBoy's picture


You gotta be insane to be afraid of that stupid, pudgy, little bitch in high heels.

Unless you're the CIA/NSA/ETC, always be needing a new boogeyman.
Saddam, Khaddafy, Bin Laden,  Now Assad and the NK bitch. Iran was on the list...may be back if needed as a boogeyman.

detached.amusement's picture

we lost those wars of existential threats back in the 1800s.  history just does not represent them as existential threats.  the crown won the civil war.

Tarzan's picture

He's a threat to his neighbors, his neighbors should take care of it. 

estebanDido's picture

The only threat to the US is the US Government.

Krungle's picture

This is kind of like telling a guy minding his own busineess in his own damn house to mind his own business whilst you surround his property with armed goons. That's a pretty patient person who would just occassionally yell something crazy out the window to you in the hopes that it might scare you off. 

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

Google 'Israel North Korea'

President Kushner is not concerned with NK being able to hit SK or Japan with a crude nuke nor destroy Seoul with artillery.

This is primarily about Israel.

As was Iraq
As is Syria.

wren's picture

Patience. Let's see how this plays out before we rush to judgment. Throw a few carrier groups on your their coast, get the Chinese to put 150,000 troops on your border, have the Japanese send their ships and put troops in South Korea. Then, have a seat with their dictator, throw out names like Hussein, Gadaffi, go over military capabilities, then say, "With all due respect, I think it is time your country came in out of the cold. This is what we would like to see happen..."

pods's picture

I cant wait till someone someday sits down our POTUS and has that same conversation.

The US constitution gives no ability for the president to unilaterally be a dictator.
If we are attacked, go to CONgress and get a declaration of war and be done with it.
This world cop routine is going to lead us to ruin. Eventually the bully gets it.


wren's picture

Are we at war? I haven't seen him take action like Bush or Obama did, but he's positioning himself for the bargaining table.

Syria, he launched some missiles. While I disagree with his actions here, it did position him to bargain from a position of power. It put Syria and Russia on notice. The media playing up a 100,000 troop deployment to Syria to set up a base was well played. I doubt he will follow through but it sure puts them on notice for negotiating.

Afghanistan, he dropped a bomb on terrorists that could save the lives of US soldiers. Good. And it strengthened his stance with China as he ordered it when eating dinner with China. Bargaining from a position of strength.

North Korea, three carrier groups, Japan putting troops in South Korea, Japan sending their ships to North Korea, China with 150,000 troops on the North Korea border. Position of strength.

NATO, countries are paying more into the alliance.

I haven't seen a full blown war start yet. When it does, we can talk about Congress.

A declaration of war from Congress hasn't been given since WWII. A declaration of war also isn't committing to participating in war, it's to agree that there is a conflict taking place. Yes, we should have had a declaration of war for every conflict that has ever happened around the world. I agree that we should have had a declaration of war before he launched missiles into Syria, but a declaration of war would have been seen by Syria and Russia as launching an all out war. It would also have played his hand.

Let's see how this plays out. This anti-Trump propaganda is getting thick here. It only took 100 days for the sheep to turn into wolves and attack their shepherd. Maybe a little bit of patience is due.

He is bargaining from a position of strength, which is what he has always done. So far, civilian casualties have been less than during Obama or Bush. So far, military casualties have been less than during Obama or Bush. Lots more activity around the world, but that's his bargaining style. I have faith that good things will come of this, it will just take time for everyone to see it.

wren's picture

Strong debate there Dr. Vannostrand. Way to debate. Using the lefts attack by insult method.

FYI, I believe the Fed should be audited and their power overthrown. I absolutely despice our currency system. I believe banks are a monopoly to benefit those truly in power. I don't believe for a second that we should have anything to do with the ME or Israel. So calling me a zionist pig is a worthless flame.


Dr.Vannostrand's picture

Your schtick is amusing. Bringing out the leftist cannard; you've haven't been at ZH very long. The wolves have always been here, we do not follow the R or D sheppard. You grovel for a zionist pig, therefore, you are. It has nothing to do with being in favor in the ME or Israel; but everything to do with your warmongering. 

wren's picture

Warmongering? First off, I don't believe in foreign wars. If I had it my way, we wouldn't be anywhere. If he can play a power card to bring peace to Korea through superior firepower, I'm not opposed. No, I wouldn't support a war in NK. I'm a veteran who believes our military would be better served protecting our country. But I don't believe it will come to another war in Asia. I believe this all to be a power play towards a strong negotiation. And for zionist, maybe you should look up the definition of the word. No, I don't support Israel. No, I'm far from a mainstream thinker.


keep the bastards honest's picture

NK has had no peace from  the uS for 70 years. The US publicly announced it was on the list  with Iraq libya Iran Syria.. look how thats going. You are a mainstream thinker on this matter. NK sees the actions in Syria right now and it has to show  its nukes. Its been disclosed that it is hacked and every missile etc  is hacked by the US, aborted, imploded or  re-directed..


Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

You think the South Koreans would let Japanese troops in?

A precision strike taking out Kim and his top guys would not be a bad thing.

Thing is, that doesn't seem to be the approach contemplated.

The armchair brigades always seem to be very generous with the lives and limbs of others, don't they? And they seem to assume that the United States is always the blameless, heroic champion of peace and justice while every state it bombs is entirely evil and irrational etc.

Now, the Kim dynasty is brutal. That doughy fuck's demise would be very good for Koreans and NE Asia.

But the very reason they've been developing nukes is because of decades of US invasions, bombings, regime change ops.

I'm not arguing for Kim being the good guy.

I'm arguing they are not irrational, and we do not have pristine motives.

And the Israeli connection is absolutely, positively part of this story.

For various reasons, any attack on NK should have China in the lead - but a decapitation strike is really the only play, at least if one is trying to minimize death, damage and cost.

You think that the US or Israel is worried about minimizing death, damage, and cost?

the MoA article is worth a read even if you dont agree with it all. It supplies some context which our MSM is careful to always remove from the narrative.

wren's picture

I don't think we will do anything with North Korea. I think we will hit the bargaining table from a position of strength.

If we killed him, millions of starving people who see him literally as their God would begin a campaign of killing each other over food. The military would get all the food, the rest of the people would starve.

If we attacked North Korea without killing him, millions would die as artillery began firing into South Korea.

The reality is, Trump is working with China, in a position of strength, and can hit the bargaining table. He may not even oust their dictator, but he could use the strength he has built around North Korea to get them to make some major changes. If he gets them at the bargaining table and convinces them to make some changes, both to their nuclear program and regarding human rights and foreign relations and beginning to allow people to be allowed to move around between NK and SK and China more freely. He could, if he plays his hand correctly, affect change in that region without even firing a shot.

Jubal Early's picture

I wasn't aware that the yids hated the Kims so much, it kind of reminds of the Romanovs.  Suddenly fatso rises up several notches further above any tribe members.

In their parade the Norks displayed a remarkable number of new missle platforms including MARV? technology to guide warheads at reentry.  This would likely render "Iron Dome" irrelevant and empower Hebullah who with Iran are North Korean allies.  This explains the current infatuation Trump has with the Norks as well as confirming who owns his ass, as if there were any question anymore.

pods's picture

Our secret plan is to goad them into testing more and more rockets to have them brow up on the raunch pad.


MFL5591's picture

Wall Street is a bigger threat to America as is the Federal Reserve.

Sir Raisin's picture

No, a "magic hamburger" should do the trick.

Galieo's picture

Around our parts, we call it a glass hamburger.

Syrin's picture

The problem is the guy does have nukes, does have missiles, does have subs, and has openly threatened to nuke the US.   NONE of that is the fault of the US.   It does sound like someone with suicidal intentions.   When your chihuahua backs a 200 pound Rottweiler into a corner and keep barking in its face, it's not the Rottweiler's fault whe it kills it.  

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

None of it is the failt of the US, eh?

You, Sir, have the boorish manners of a Yalie.

Syrin's picture

So the open threats to turn the US to ashes is our fault?   I guess a girl wearing anything than pants to her ankles deserves a good raping every now and then too, eh f'tard?

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

That's some weapons-grade stupidity, Sarah.

Work on it.

SmackDaddy's picture

Well have you seen the Yale Coat of Arms?  It is inscribed with Hebrew, after all.

I don't want to sound like a dick or nothin, but you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.  

And I even agree with you.

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

No worries, you don't sound like a dick, you sound like someone who regularly has shit on his dick but frequently calls other 'fags.'

Not to their face, of course.

Why not go back to /b/ to look for more trap porn? Just be yourself.

It's the current year, after all.

I like you. You've got spunk.

Bavarian's picture

You're right on those details but wrong about the US being faultless here.  They are instigating as they always do.  Why not let the chihuahua bark, who cares? 

But instead, the US continues to provoke the crazy person who DOES have nukes and isn't daunted by their show of force around the world.  I know the US elites feel that everyone should be in awe of their presence but ironically that's not how the world views a country that consistently loses wars to undeveloped nations. 

But I think I know how this develops - the US continues provoking and is "forced" to use a nuclear bomb as a show of macho strength, Trump style.  This is what he/they want.  It won't impress China/Russia, though.  And conversely, it will trigger like attacks from NK and they won't go down without a fight.  Watch out, California.

Battlefield USA's picture

It is actually quite predictive. And we do it all the time. We poke NK, and NK barks. Then the U.S.A. Bigly sits back and says, "See" Look! NK is crazy! They're a threat to the Imperialistic U.S.A. Bigly and NWO stability!"

Of course, you probably haven't noticed that. Your head being up your U.S.A. Big Mac Bigly ass.

And look! Over there! Assad dropped Sarin Gas!

And look! Over there! Putin is ready to roll tanks into Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania at any moment to restore the glorious USSR!

Saddam is bashing incubator babies heads on the floors and walls!

One could go on with all this U.S.A. Bigly nonsense, and still, Americans Bigly will have their heads up their U.S.A. Big Mac Bigly ass.


We're going to just keep it up with all this global bullying, and then one day, we're going to get our ass spanked. And stupid double-dumb-ass American Bigly's are going to wake up like a Deer in the headlights, with their Bigly American heads up their U.S.A Big Mac ass, proclaiming... "Huh? What! Wahhhhh! Why does the world hate us!"


slwsnowman40's picture

Oh, his subs have the range to get off the West coast?  I doubt they could get to Alaska.

OverTheHedge's picture

It may come via shipping container. Or private yacht. Or strapped to a killer whale called Shabu. Asymmetric warfare calls for thinking outside the box.

It may already be in place - there's something to think about.....

raeb's picture

We have the same mentality as the Rottweiler.

detached.amusement's picture

banksters have the same mentality as those who train their rottweilers to fight

slyhill's picture

No, of course not. Just convice your other neighbors that they're meth-cooking pedaphiles.

Raffie's picture

Pour bacon grease over Macadamia nuts and feed to dog.

Problem solved.


When NK is having a military parade, why don't they just stealth a nuke in and get everyone?

Mighty 30's picture

When your dog can kill millions with his barking then that lame analogy might be of any value. But when NK can send the west coast into the sea,,,wait...nevermind.

pods's picture

But NK hasn't really proven they can either launch a missile that goes more than 40km OR been able to make a nuc-u-lar warhead small enough to fit atop said missile.
The US wants to have an enemy, and NK loves this. Cause if we were friendly with them, the people might start thinking about other problems, say, no food cause the government is so bad.

But with the USA making threats, Lil Kim has an external enemy to rally the people around.

It's retarded, and the USA knows this too. They want to have him as a threat.


Mighty 30's picture

Well they are getting better at their launches. We may be able to take them out with the color lazers or whatever we have developed under the radar and that is fine. But these maniacs keep developing their capability. Some one said yesterday in about less time than Trumps first 4years. So start thinking ahead a bit. He is his own threat. None of us have asked him to continually grow as a nuclear menace. He does it all on his own.. There are reprocussions for being a growing threat.

OverTheHedge's picture

My understanding is that North Korea has repeatedly (annually?) offered to stop their nuclear program, but apparently the US doesn't seem interested. Odd, that.

Perhaps you could comment?

83_vf_1100_c's picture

My crazy neighbor stomps around his yard with AK screaming about killing my family and burning down allthe neighbors houses. His ammo is really old and misfires frequently. So, nothing to worry about right?

Threats should always be considered seriously. The author of this piece will post a new one after LA goes up in a mushroom cloud calling out the world for not dealing with kimmy when we had time and he had not perfected his launch vehicles.  If China, Japan, SKorea and the USA have a coalition then take ass out. Take out his military, Divvy up the country amongst the coalition and watch the Nork citizens flourish.