Russia Bans Jehovah’s Witnesses As An "Extremist Organization"

Tyler Durden's picture

Russians will no longer have to dread the doorbell.

On Thursday, Russia's Supreme Court ruled that Jehovah's Witnesses was an "extremist" organization after the justice ministry applied for an order to shut down the group's national headquarters near St Petersburg, Russian TASS news agency reported. Russian authorities had put several of the group's publications on a list of banned extremist literature, and prosecutors have long cast it as an organization that destroys families, fosters hatred and threatens lives, a description the organization says is false.

In its lawsuit the Justice Ministry mentioned various violations, exposed by a snap check of the organization’s activities, including those of the federal law on resistance to extremist activities. The Justice Ministry wanted the organization and its 395 local chapters to be declared as extremist and outlawed and its properties to be confiscated.

The Administrative Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses told TASS it found this affair very worrisome, because a future decision would concern 175,000 practicing believers. ACJW spokesman Ivan Bilenko said the organization was prepared to seek protection of its rights in courts of any instance.

A court in Moscow on October 12, 2016 warned Jehovah’s Witnesses over what it ruled was extremist activities. Under Russian legislation the religious organization in question is to be closed down if it fails to eliminate the exposed violations within the required deadline or if new evidence of its extremist activities come to light. The Moscow City Court on January 16, 2017 upheld the warning over extremism handed to Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses group in Russia has said it will appeal against the court’s ruling.

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ParkAveFlasher's picture

That men can't bless or curse in and of themselves is frequently intoned in the actual Bible, should people ever decide to actually read it through.

fbazzrea's picture

Reading the books compiled in the Constantine Bible, as well as several apocryphal books, and also many Sumerian, Assyrian and Babylonian texts provides greater insights and objectivity than most Christians possess. I'd wager most Christians have never read the entire Bible, let alone earlier texts from which much of the "Bible" is sourced.

logicalman's picture

Went to a church school as a kid - did the Sunday school thing, was even confirmed in the Anglican Church.

Later, I read both Old and New Testaments - twice.

That's part of the reason I'm an atheist.

Imagine the reaction I'd get if I went door to door with a like-minded associate!

 

fbazzrea's picture

it would be scandalous! lol

scaleindependent's picture

You would also be kicked out of countries, for being an atheist heretic.

ParkAveFlasher's picture

Actually those books you mention are outliers, and you would be wiser to consider thir text both in form and in style as incongruous compared the linearity of the good old KJV, which is supported by thousands of ancient documents.

fbazzrea's picture

"you would be wiser"

lol point made. no judgment or hypocrisy here. i'm wrong. you're right. "cause the Bible tells me so." /sarc

 

"supported by thousands of ancient documents"???

can you name a few besides the "Dead Sea Scrolls" which raise more questions than provides answers?

have you read any Sumerian texts regarding Ziusudra, the Hebrew Noah? or what about Sumerian texts discussing the Tree of Knowledge actually being a metaphor for the ability to procreate via sex, as in the Biblical "knowing" sense? or what about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah by nuclear blast in an epic war as evidenced by the still radioactive springs in the Dead Sea area.

 

i'm happy that you believe. if that makes you feel good, great. but you're allowing your religion to slant your objectivity and perception of other possibilities. that's okay with me. when you get off your high horse, join the rest of humanity down here on the ground. we're all one. no diff between believers and non-believers, other than in their opinions.

zippedydoodah's picture

What you said, you're my hero.

Raffie's picture

Religion is man's way to worship God.

God however is not religious.

HowdyDoody's picture

God was created in man's image.

Bigern's picture

For those who worship Lucifer. What is interesting is that even he knows the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are very real.

What is amazing, is that many will embrace a liar, from the beginning, and reject the truth. Many reject the truth because they cannot bring themselves to repent. Pride, anger, and frustration eat away at the soul. Lucifer gets into the heart and manipulates the individual to blame God. The Lord quite often becomes the target. Luciferians believe that the serpent in the garden actually did mankind a favor, by freeing them from the tyranny of God. They believe God was keeping all knowledge from man, selfishly. In truth, the Father kept man shielded from knowledge because he knew that it would destroy man. Look where we are today, in our own knowledge. Men and women are literally destroying themselves, and each other, across the earth. Satan celebrates his accomplishment in error. We would all be condemned. However, there was this story one time. About a man who died on a cross, not for what he did wrong, but for what we did wrong. He died so that we may be restored, just as he was after the third day. That story spread far and wide. That story became known everywhere. That story is the most well known story in history. That story is not dead, because the story is not yet over. It is about to enter the final chapter. His name is Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus the Christ.

zippedydoodah's picture

You must have dropped some serious acid. You actually BELIEVE that bullshit? Incredible.

Teja's picture

If God is the one who created the simulation we live in, she might well wonder who created the simulation she is living in, and calling that one "God²".

Griffin's picture

I dont think so, most religions are peaceful and give more positive influences to civilisations than they take from them.

Its just the extremism that i am against.

 

Violence in the name of God is something that i don't agree with, both physical and mental.

fbazzrea's picture

Sadly, more violence has been committed in the name of religion than any other cause in the world.

Theoretically, religion is benevolent, but in reality, quite the contrary. The Pope is capable of eliminating world hunger with the stroke of a pen, but their real estate assets and gold reserves (material wealth) is regarded as more valuable than ending human misery. Religion is a sham perpetuated in unison with the world's governments.

No human needs an interloper to communicate with their Creator. No organized religion required to worship communally. According to Jesus's own words, "For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them.”--Matthew 18:20

Yet, religions build enormous edifices of self-imports. I suspect "God" would much rather the money be spent on helping their communities' down-trodden, invalid and elderly whilst worshiping in homes and other casual locations.

Why do leaders of large congregations demand high salaries, drive expensive cars, live in expensive homes and live extravagant lifestyles while purporting to follow Jesus's teachings? Actions speak louder than words.

Way too complex topic to discuss in a few sentences on a comment section, but in my opinion, religion has more negative consequences than positive. There would be far less judgmental hypocrites without it.

logicalman's picture

Don't go looking for sense from Akzed, logical thought is not a concept he's familiar with.

Griffin's picture

I guess if i were to mention the positive things that can be attributed to religions, it would be great achievements in art, architecture, construction, literature and some contribution to philosophy and thought in general. Some of it useful.

The religions, like Christianity for instance, have helped to keep alive some wise thoughts and ideas.

 

Unfortunately some religious institutions seem to be mostly about politics and greed. 

 

fbazzrea's picture

For most of the last 5,000 years, those "wise thoughts and ideas" were guarded by the "priests" with their lives in order to maintain their elevated status in society as the sole interpreters of divine will.

zippedydoodah's picture

All religions are perpetuated by brainwashing the next generation at as young an age as possible. It's quite disgusting and immoral if you think about it.

logicalman's picture

Religion is a very successful control mechanism used by elite groups.

Belief is a totally different thing.

 

mavenson's picture

Similar to this type of banning, can be used benevolently or malevovently. Hence people don't like being at the rainy-day whim of the elite. It took a while for Christianity to become mainstream with Constantine and also some time for paganiization, ritualization, turning it an oppressive power structure. They did it through incremental perversion and removal from original doctrine. Then came Gutenberg, Martin Luther etc.. where both technological advancement and spiritual revelation found a nexus called the enlightment. Oligarchs have always been seated, but spiritual enslavement, and mass suppression of the human spirit through toxic ideologies or perversions of such, has in my opinion been the root cause of suffering. Remember also, to allow it to rest in your mind in the perverted state, accepts that perversion as successful, you accept the deception; rather than acknowleging the obfuscation that should be meticulously and wearily sorted out.

UselessEater's picture

IMHO one root cause of suffering is banning all questioning of the WW2 narrative. If you do not ever question the narrative of WW2, you can not understand the rise of a new creation post WW2...Judaeo-Christian values and churches. An oxymoron that did not exist early 20 century. 

I don't think Martin Luther is correctly placed in your post, his later writings were very pointed, remove the viper and we can live lives according to God. His true words were about suppression of toxic beliefs and behaviours that destroy the wonders of society making them ripe for degenerate jew vices. Search history and there is a constant infiltrating filth into old India, China, oh just everwhere. I ignore this and we lose context.

Here is an interesting site to explore, https://www.darkmoon.me/

cornflakesdisease's picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNtz5wgnopQ

 

You see, your not held to any standard if you just don't believe in anything.

HRClinton's picture

They'd be better off if they banned Mormons. They're AIC and Deep State agents in training. 

If they banned Chabad Lubavitch, they'd wipe out a good chunk of the Fifth Column.

You keep pruning, until you get hard pushback. Then you know that you're on to something. 

dogismycopilot's picture

It's their country. They can secure their borders and people as they wish. 

 

Plunge Protection's picture

I guess the girlscouts are an extreme para-military force too then. 

1.21 jigawatts's picture

There's an even more (((extremist))) "religion" that should be banned and Vlad knows it.

TalkToLind's picture

Right, those darned Mormons; they should drive them out of Russia.

crossroaddemon's picture

Anybody who believes there is an invisible man should probably be classified as a dangerous extremist...

white horse's picture

Anybody that believes order can arise from chaos by itself should be classified as dangerously lacking logical abilities.

Brazen Heist's picture

It's very logical. As the temperature of the Universe cooled down, chaos began to evolve structure.

Akzed's picture

Hahahaha. Please reduce that to a syllogism. Thanks.

Brazen Heist's picture

The classical mechanistic world we are all familiar with - the one of order and not the probabilistic one - is based on Newton's laws and gravity. Gravity evolved as particles formed and clumped together as the Universe cooled down and energy density decreased. This aggregated to matter forming, distorting space-time and giving rise to gravity. Things started to orbit and planets evolved life and civilisations, as gravity normalized a hospitable environment. The emergence of order accelerated with time, especially with intelligence. 

Akzed's picture

Not a syllogism.

 

Tell me, if a BIG BANG (a Jesuit invention) sent everything out in a straight line from its center, with everything moving away from everything else at high speed, when and why did any two blobs of matter ever come into close enough proximity to one another to attract one another? Thanks.

Brazen Heist's picture

In short: matter distorts space-time and the fabric of space-time is anything but smooth and linear. Gravittational forces thus arise out of the irregularities and condense other matter together.

You have very linear thinking. Go and study some real science and then we'll talk.

Rikky's picture

if you really believe that humans in all their ridiculous complexity started from some lightning hitting some primordial soup and viola we have life, well there really is no hope for you no matter the debate.

Brazen Heist's picture

What, as opposed to the unfalsifiable and untestable claims written in some ancient book 2000 years ago?

I think I'd take evidence-based faith over dogma-based faith any day.

Sick Underbelly's picture

 

Knowledge is key. Observation and experience are a must.

What objective experience do you have of the timeline of the "inhabitants" of the Earth?   Not what someone tells you, but that you have actually seen.

If you have no experience, then you only have what others tell you.

For example, let's assume three hypothetical people.  Person A travels to and then scales to the summit of Mt. Everest, person B travels to and watches person A scale to the summit, and person C hears the tales of what person A did.

If you are talking about "life on Earth" as created/evolved/manufactured, and you are neither person A nor person B, you can only hope to hear and imagine a factual account of "what happend" as person C.

I'll conclude this with saying that if you actively develop the ability to at-will astral project and have an out of body experience, you can go and see it as a "person B".  Many have before, independently, and confirmed what happened.

Until you step out and gain experience, you are operating on belief, logic, emotion and others' stories, not from knowing.

Akzed's picture

Matter, travelling at unimaginably high speed away from all other matter -after a BiG BANG- not only attracted other matter to it, matter that was further away from it each second, but then eventually gave us the human eye, Mozart, and the Taj Mahal, inter alia.  And this was not observed, is not repeatable, falsifiable, etc. You have great faith, but thanks anyhow.

Teja's picture

It took some fine tuning and manipulation to make sure that some 14 billion years after the Big Bang, so called "human beings" could appear and start thinking about this Big Bang. A good number of physical constants had to be set quite precisely to enable the creation of Carbon, for example. The mass attraction after the Big Bang probably was one of the easier things to get right.

I really wonder what will happen when we find out that this universe could be explained best by assuming that every part of it, in all its extension, is being simulated in a kind of higher-dimensional computer. That would be a shock for scientists, but also a shock for conventional religious people - the user manual for the computer surely not being the Bible or the Quran.

Akzed's picture

when we find out that

Circular reasoning. If "we" have not found this out, why do you speak of it as a fact?

logicalman's picture

Fine-tuning is not the answer.

We are here because things are the way they are. If they were different we wouldn't be here to wonder

logicalman's picture

I guess you never studied anything other than what you already believe.

You are hardly likely to learn anything if that's all you do.

The nice thing about science is that it tests itself, if done properly.

Religion relies on ignorance and the avoidance of change. Hardly a recipe for progress.

 

Akzed's picture

Begging the question seems to be your avocation.

Phil Free's picture

With the passing of time, things [in their natural state] do not become more orderly.  They become more disorderly.  Such is the universal law of Entropy.