Russia Bans Jehovah’s Witnesses As An "Extremist Organization"

Tyler Durden's picture

Russians will no longer have to dread the doorbell.

On Thursday, Russia's Supreme Court ruled that Jehovah's Witnesses was an "extremist" organization after the justice ministry applied for an order to shut down the group's national headquarters near St Petersburg, Russian TASS news agency reported. Russian authorities had put several of the group's publications on a list of banned extremist literature, and prosecutors have long cast it as an organization that destroys families, fosters hatred and threatens lives, a description the organization says is false.

In its lawsuit the Justice Ministry mentioned various violations, exposed by a snap check of the organization’s activities, including those of the federal law on resistance to extremist activities. The Justice Ministry wanted the organization and its 395 local chapters to be declared as extremist and outlawed and its properties to be confiscated.

The Administrative Center of Jehovah’s Witnesses told TASS it found this affair very worrisome, because a future decision would concern 175,000 practicing believers. ACJW spokesman Ivan Bilenko said the organization was prepared to seek protection of its rights in courts of any instance.

A court in Moscow on October 12, 2016 warned Jehovah’s Witnesses over what it ruled was extremist activities. Under Russian legislation the religious organization in question is to be closed down if it fails to eliminate the exposed violations within the required deadline or if new evidence of its extremist activities come to light. The Moscow City Court on January 16, 2017 upheld the warning over extremism handed to Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses group in Russia has said it will appeal against the court’s ruling.

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Brazen Heist's picture

Order can increase within Chaos, so long as the overall direction remains Chaos, as the second law stipulates.

zippedydoodah's picture

Gravity evolved giving rise to gravity?

There's a serious logic problem there.

HRClinton's picture

The transition from one stable political regime to another, always involves a disorderly, chaotic or violent transition. 

If you want to make an omelet...

Look, you need Creative Destruction if you want big or important things to get done.

Sorry if this overloads some home-schooled brains.

Akzed's picture

Home-schooling IS creative dextruction.

You have to let us know when you're speaking as Hillary, and when you are speaking as yourself. It gets confusing.

white horse's picture

Anybody that believes order can arise from chaos by itself should be classified as dangerously lacking logical abilities.

MarsInScorpio's picture

CRDemon:

People who believe the universe came into existense from a state of Absolute Nothing - no mass, no energy, no gravity, no time, no space - through Spontaneious Generation should be classified as a person disconnected from reality, and be institutionalized to protect themselves, and others.

Consuelo's picture

 

 

But government entities that Force/Coerce you into all manner of Liberty-robbing fealty - no problem, correct?

logicalman's picture

People who believe that god came into existence from Absolutely Nothing are OK.

People who believe the Universe came into existence from Absolutely Nothing are Crazy???

Where's the logic in that argument?

 

Akzed's picture

God is eternal. He didn't come into existence. Matter had a beginning. Sorry to contradict your faith.

logicalman's picture

Can you explain how you came up with your hypothesis?

Please!

Akzed's picture

I didnt come up with it, it is the fruit of 2k years of Christian thinking based on biblical scholarship and reason: God is the Creator, the uncreated First Mover, meaning that His creation was, well, created. So it had a beginning. Very simple, really.

logicalman's picture

I don't believe today's newspaper.

I certainly don't trust a document written close to 2000 years ago that's been translated and re-translated multiple times to serve the purposes of the various vested interests of those in power at the time.

Very old Fake News.

Akzed's picture

Actually, translations were forbidden for centuries by TPTB, but please, say on if you think of anything else.

logicalman's picture

Can you explain this for me, given your superior knowledge of such matters?

There are 14 books found in the Septuagint and included in the Vulgate but considered uncanonical by Protestants (and not in the KJB)  because they are not part of the Hebrew Scriptures. The Roman Catholic canon accepts 11 of these books and includes them in the Douay Bible.

Who gets to pick and choose?

Akzed's picture

There are very old canons of Scripture, the oldest of which is the Muritorian Canon http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/muratorian.html, which lists most of the books in the current 66 book Bible. The Apocrypha was not included in it. The RCC and Protestant Bibles always contained the Apocrypha as a "deutero-canon" between the OT and NT, but as you say was not considered Holy Scripture. (It was not included in the 39-book Jewish canon put forth by the Council of Jamnia c. AD 100.)

The heretic Marcion put forth a canon of his own which omitted some NT books and all OT books, spurring Church fathers to decide on a definitive canon, basically settling on that of St. Athanasius put together in the 4th Century. There were also many Gnostic "pseudipigrapha" (false writings, often attributed to apostles) that are spurious and omitted from the current 66-book Bible. The RCC has recently sprinkled the Apocrypha throughout the Bible, which is not recognized by Protestants, and the Orthodox retain some of them. There are historical errors in these books, as well as other problems, causing many churches to exlude them. There is more to it (search engines are your friend) but as far as I know, no council has ever said, "These are the 66 books of the Bible."

 

 

 

 

_ConanTheLibertarian_'s picture

There are also too many of them here. Get a life fuckers.

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

The man who invented the MRI machine became wealthy saving millions of lives, and he believes literally in the book of Genesis.

logicalman's picture

Those who believe, literally, in the Bible have likely killed more than he's saved.

Just because you are clever in one way doesn't preclude being wrong/dumb/mistaken in others.

 

Akzed's picture

Those who believe, literally, in the Bible have likely killed more than he's saved.

That's a fantastically ridiculous statement, particularly regarding the example at hand.

 

JLM's picture

People believe all kinds of crazy things.  It's their actions and empathy that define them and curry favour with the above.  All these people are glorifying and giving God like attributes to a book or an organization which is nuts.  No book is holy, no book is inerrent, no book is to be venerated etc etc etc etc etc!!!  Science has proven all this nothing more than superstition.  Not to say there isn't some really good stuff in these writings which you would be wise to  listen to.  It's just that a thinking person has to literally separate the wheat from the chaff when reading them.  Don't be intellectually lazy like the JWs and others.

 

pods's picture

This strikes me as odd. Russia seems to be pretty tolerant.

Wonder what they think of Scientologists?  lol.

pods

cougar_w's picture

Yeah, even the language used. "Extremist organization." JW are pacifists AFAIK. It must be the Russian Orthodoxers getting their undies in a bunch over something. Maybe JW are a growing movement and the Orthodoxers want them out, and have the hooks into government to pull that off.

Griffin's picture

I read a bit about Scientology some years ago and i thought that this religion was mainly tax related.

If i remeber correctly, Hubbard, who wrote the scriptures, said that Xenu, the main character, used H-bombs to blast people to atoms for some reason i forget. But at the time of this story being written, H-bombs were the scariest things around.

So i guess the fears of simple earthlings had a considerble influence in galaxies far away.

 

 

BadDog's picture

These assholes nearly destroyed a close family member.

headless blogger's picture

It's definitely a cult-like organization.

SgtShaftoe's picture

Creepy and weird: Yes. Though they may be fools, they aren't particularly dangerous.

cookies anyone's picture

the jehovah's are supposedly the best cash mules

coast1's picture

 I would ban all organized religions...the problem is, there is a true spiritual entity, but people use it to their own benefit, twist the truth etc.  Ever heard of 501c3?  any religious organization that takes 501c3 has already sold out...Most all organized religions would collapse without 501c3, so they became slaves to the system...they will not survive without 501c3, its not about Jesus...Jesus would never had taken a 501c3. think about it.

Akzed's picture

 

 

 

Churches are tax exempt w/o 501c3, but the govt has scammed most of them on the issue.

 

Smart guys can't be scammed though, except for all of those who file tax returns for wages. No ZHers are that stupid, I'm sure.

coast1's picture

I remember reading about that awhile ago and forgot....thx for the reminder, you are correct, they can do tax exempt without 501c3

runnymede's picture

"I would ban all organized religions..."

Sounds an awful lot like coercive central planning---

headless blogger's picture

I don't believe in that kind of suppression, but they do have some strange habits. The one in our town, has no windows. And I mean absolutely not one window, which is really weird. Makes you wonder what they are doing inside. A guy I used to work with many years ago told me he was raised one but had to go through a "de-brainwashing" program. He became an atheist.

cougar_w's picture

What you describe could be found in nearly any organized relgion. There are always control freaks masking themselves as "religious leaders" who go out and do crazy shit for their own reasons (being usually wealth or power or both) having nothing at all to do with the religous umbrella they are standing under.

Look up Jim Jones. Scientology. Jim Bakker. Televangelists in general. The Crusades.

WillyGroper's picture

some jw's have been murdered there.

the whole operation was created by a freemason.

they have their own "edited" version of the new international bible.

the organization is as rampant w/pedo's as the rcc.

i did some bible study with them.  they were nice folks that still come by to see me after we parted ways.  that parting came as i questioned the editing & called the pedo's to their attention of which they denied.  it's their way or the highway...they hit the road.

blind belief systems are nothing more than absolute brainwashing...nothing more toxic.

Dig Deeper1's picture

Finally - phuckers.  

GodSpeed_00's picture

Kick em out while they're small.

wisehiney's picture

EXTREMELY fit. 

If you don't believe it, try keeping up with those bicycles.

Expat's picture

Well, it's a good start.  now ban the rest.

Consuelo's picture

 

 

 I'm thumbing through U.S. code here, trying to find laws/statutes/mandates/decrees, etc., that JW's have imposed on me throughout history, but I seem to be having some difficulty.

 

Help please...?

Expat's picture

It is your duty as a Christian and as an American to impose your will on others.  You must be intolerant and hateful of all those who are not like you.  When you see someone different, ask yourself, "What would Jesus do?"  The answer, nine times out of ten, is Kill the FUCKER in the name of GOD!  Amen.

logicalman's picture

Pretty much fits all religions, not just Christianity.

Funny how, in war, God is on OUR side, whichever side that happens to be.

zippedydoodah's picture

Indeed. "God bless America". You can't get more politically ridiculous than that statement.

Brazen Heist's picture

If there was one person I'd kill back in time....it would be Abraham.

Would have saved billions of lives and minds.

Akzed's picture

Neither Talmudic Judaisn or Islam have anthing to do with Abraham.

Blankenstein's picture

 

"impose your will on others"

"You must be intolerant and hateful of all those who are not like you"

 

This sounds more like the SJWs.


WTFUD's picture

Soros's mitts will be all over this also, with other funding coming from nefarious cult institutions.

dark fiber's picture

And that's a bad thing somehow?

Falling Down's picture

Probably because the Russians have found evidence that their "missionaries" are really CIA and Mi6 spooks.