In Which States Do Most Millennials Live With Their Parents?

Tyler Durden's picture

Just a few short decades ago America's youth was highly encouraged by eager parents to become self-sufficient by the ripe old age of 18.  Today, the mere suggestion of such a thing could land unsuspecting parents in prison for 'triggering' their offspring with malicious 'hate speech.'

And, as a new study from the Census Bureau points out today, the changing dynamics are readily apparent in the latest household survey data which shows that more millennials are living at home with mom today than any other living arrangement.  Here are some of the key takeaways:

  • More young people today live in their parents’ home than in any other arrangement: 1 in 3 young people, or about 24 million 18- to 34-year-olds, lived in their parents’ home in 2015.
  • In 2005, the majority of young adults lived independently in their own household, which was the predominant living arrangement in 35 states. A decade later, by 2015, the number of states where the majority of young people lived independently fell to just six.
  • Most of today’s Americans believe that educational and economic accomplishments are extremely important milestones of adulthood. In contrast, marriage and parenthood rank low: over half of Americans believe that marrying and having children are not very important in order to become an adult.
  • Young people are delaying marriage, but most still eventually tie the knot. In the 1970s, 8 in 10 people married by the time they turned 30. Today, not until the age of 45 have 8 in 10 people married.
  • More young men are falling to the bottom of the income ladder. In 1975, only 25 percent of men, aged 25 to 34, had incomes of less than $30,000 per year. By 2016, that share rose to 41 percent of young men. (Incomes for both years are in 2015 dollars.)
  • Between 1975 and 2016, the share of young women who were homemakers fell from 43 percent to 14 percent of all women aged 25 to 34.
  • Of young people living in their parents’ home, 1 in 4 are idle, that is they neither go to school nor work. This figure represents about 2.2 million 25- to 34-year-olds.

Millennials

 

To our complete 'shock', parents living in liberal states like NJ, CT, NY and CA were most likely to provide 'safe spaces' for their unemployed millennials to play video games.  In fact, 7 out of the top 10 states where the most millennials live at home were liberal...and 11 out of the top 15.

Millennials

 

And while the number of millennials living at home with mom continues to surge, 1 out of 4 of them are neither enrolled in school or working.

It is easy to think of young people living in their parents’ home as a homogeneous group, as though they were all unemployed and dependent on their parents’ support. At 24.2 million people, the population of 18- to 34-year-olds living at home is a large and diverse group. Most of them-about 81 percent—are either working or going to school. This should not be surprising because most people aged 18 to 24 are living in their parents’ home, attending classes or working part-time. On the other hand, we might be surprised if their older peers do not contribute to the family budget because they have had more time to finish school and find a stable job. Yet, of the 8.4 million 25- to 34-year-olds living at home, about 1 in 4 are idle, meaning they are not in school and do not work.

 

Who are these young adults who are not in the labor force or going to school? They tend to be older millennials who are White or Black and have only a high school education, compared with their peers who are working or going to school while living at home. But they may not be idle for want of effort. They are more likely to have a child, so they may be caring for family, and over one-quarter have a disability of some kind (Table 6). That so many are disabled suggests that they have limitations in their ability to attend classes, study, find work, or keep a regular job. Recent stories on boomerang children returning home focus on economic downturns, unforgiving job markets, and high rents.30 Though often overlooked in these stories, young people’s health may play an important role in their decision to live with parents.

Millennials

 

A bright future awaits, America.

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takeaction's picture

I just got the EMAIL today...My brother inlaw can't pay the $48,000 in school bills...he pays $700 a month to 6 different creditors and the $700 doesn't touch the principle...wants me to bail him out...this should get interesting....

takeaction's picture

Yeah...he is 28...got his engineering degree...makes about $1800 a month...with all of his bills...he can NEVER touch the principle.......my wife is looking at me like "You should help him..."  This makes things real tough.  This will get interesting.

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and...as if you didn't know...he can't "Bankrupt" out of this debt.

Blue Balls's picture

If the bankers can make a buck loading the kids up with debt for crap they don’t need like college and cars then it’s all good.  As long as Lloyd Blankfein lives comfortably in NYC it’s all good.

This country is such a bitch of money counterfeiters.  Sickening fucked up society.

D Nyle's picture

Top 4 are liberal Hellholes, I'm shocked , just Shocked

J S Bach's picture

"Just a few short decades ago America's youth was highly encouraged by eager parents to become self-sufficient by the ripe old age of 18.  Today, the mere suggestion of such a thing could land unsuspecting parents in prison for 'triggering' their offspring with malicious 'hate speech.'"

The unprecedented decadence of our present age surpasses even Ancient Rome and is a marvel to behold.  All I can say is - when the generations alive today start to feel REAL suffering as our not-so-distant ancestors did - the whining and wailing will be deafening.  I think I'll get a jump on all this and go into the ear-plug business.

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

Several of those 'red' states near the top were blue until the recent presidential election. Otherwise the ratio of liberal to conservative states with kids in the basement would be even worse.

lil dirtball's picture

What is this 'liberal' v. 'conservative'? Mbbe thirty years ago, or more, but try and find a true conservative today. Instead, it's all just identity politics. "I watch FOX news w/ Bill O'Really. That makes me conservative."

Most 'conservatives' couldn't tell you what it means to be conservative ... and most 'liberals' couldn't tell you the difference between a classic liberal and a Communist.

~

"It's propaganda. It softens your brain while you read."

"Mmmm ... sounds sublime."

"You're soaking in it!"

Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

Hillary(!) must come out and say, along with implementing "free" college tuition, New York must pass a law that makes it illegal for parents to charge their children rent.  Ever.  And illegal to deny them the basement.  Ever.

FREE $HIT FOR EVERYBODY!!!

Donald Trump's picture

This Millennial "culture" is a (anti white) marxist/feminist pushed thing.

Just like telling women they can do in life without men... and IRONICALLY they end up objectifying themselves. 

This Weather Woman Didn’t Get Millions of Fans for Reporting on Tornadoes

http://dailywesterner.com/news/2017-04-20/this-weather-woman-didnt-get-m...


Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

But the Millennial "culture" are not incessant spammers with DailyTardboy web sites doing so poorly that they can't afford to pay for advertising.

The Millennial "culture" has one thing going for it...

 

 

john doeberg's picture

Only losers pay for advertising.

Ask any jew

SmackDaddy's picture

Lol. Welcome to ZH merchant; you are truly our greatest ally.

froze25's picture

20 bucks says most of the 25% that live at home and do absolutely nothing are addicts. 

Stuck on Zero's picture

Living with the folks is brilliant in many ways. The savings pile up so you can afford to buy a house. Your roomies aren't pot smoking, drunken, noisy, carousers. Your stuff isn't stolen or borrowed. You eat a better diet. For the parents, they don't get old so fast, have someone to help with the chores, and constant entertainment. This is all assuming both parents and kids are hardworking, respectable, family people. It worked for ten thousand years. It works today.

chiquita's picture

I don't think you're looking very closely at the statistics--these kids are not working so they aren't "hardwroking" and there aren't any savings piling up.  The point is many, if not most, of them are slackers who are never going to leave the basement.   

In an ideal situation, your scenario would be perfect for both the kids and parents, but unfortunately, that's not the reality.  What is happening is kids come home with no plan, get discouraged, and indulgent parents who feel bad for their already spoiled kids don't want to make the kids feel worse about their situation by making them go out and do anything just to be productive.  They don't help them by letting them get into a lazy routine or by giving them money, doing their laundry, or feeding them.  It's easier to let the kids manipulate them than fight with them. If "everyone else" is having the same trouble getting a job or the economy is bad or whatever excuse there is and there are 2.2 million of these kids in the same boat, that's an awfully big cruise.  The only kids getting off are the ones whose parents are say "NO MAS" or who put them on a plan for transitioning from the start.  

 

HockeyFool's picture

If he has an engineering degree, why is he only making $1800 a month? My kid graduated with a Chem Engineering degree and was making $75,000 a month after graduation. She has paid off all her debt, drives a nice car (also paid off), and has a 6 month emergency fund set aside. She's still in her 20s.

cheka's picture

look at the bottom ten.  what do they have in common?  less negroes, mexicans, and other libs

crazzziecanuck's picture

I think it's more important to note that this problem transcends political ideology.  The differences between the top 10 and the top 20 is negligible.

Kids are living at home with their parents has a simple cause.  It's like "child poverty" that was de rigeur a few years ago if people care to remember.  Government leaders were falling over themselves to solve that problem.  Children are poor because their parents are poor and all the solutions to deal with the problem didn't even address that.

Not only that, but kids lving in the home now is basically reverting to true historical trends.  The idea of moving out of your parents is a Baby Boomer tradition; that is, it's only been true for one or two generation of all human history.  The only reason that was possible was because of economic recolonialism and financialization.

bonderøven-farm ass's picture

I recently got into a debate with a writer for Newsweek who claimed 'self-sufficiency' was code for 'white supremacy'.

Folks, we're fucked. 

divingengineer's picture

No, THEY are fucked.
I can fix my car and grow a vegetable garden, even dig a well if I needed to.

economicmorphine's picture

It goes back further than the Boomers and it has everything to do with cheap oil which opened up access to cheap land where cheap little tract houses could be built far from more valuable land.  That's really what happened.  Back then, the cheap houses and cheap land were ten miles from the jobs.  Now they're 50 or more and the roads aren't new any more.  It's that simple.

ToSoft4Truth's picture

In general what real problems do we have considering economic wants are insatiable. 

 

We've all got Internet so we can't be that bad off.  

canisdirus's picture

People moved prior to that. Long enough ago, the only people in North America that lived multiple generations in a home were those living in cities. In rural areas, which is where the vast majority lived, there was so much decent land available that people could simply set up a farm once they amassed enough to do it (and it didn't cost much to acquire that stuff).

And I'm not sure the cheap land/housing was even 10 miles away back then. In major cities that land was only 5-10 away. Some smaller cities jobs were often within walking distance of land/housing cheap enough to buy with what that job pays.

The big problem today is suburban development, which is the worst idea that ever took off in urban planning. That has been reversing in recent decades and will probably ultimately revert to an earlier form that was much more efficient (higher density, multi-use, & walkable). Some communities might make cars almost useless within core regions. Things like living and working in the same building will probably become commonplace within a generation or two.

Steeley's picture

>I think it's more important to note that this problem transcends political ideology.

No it doesn't.

snr-moment's picture

yep.  more proof that socialism is working.

rpboxster's picture

Florida does't even have basements!

Itinerant's picture

Maybe it's not correlated with being liberal but with the price of housing ...

inhibi's picture

Last US generation to feel any suffering is practically dead. That would be my grandpa @ 98, still kicking and driving around his buddies like hes 35.

He lived through the Holocaust, came to the US, fought in the Pacific Theatre, pushed corpses from the beaches into the water for the sharks (no joke - called it the red water burial), came back to the US, went to NYU & Germany to get his MD, moved to California, and became the oldest practicing doctor in California when he turned 89.

Those people dont exist anymore.

And you make it sound like its the fault of the Millenials that they cant be parented. U must be joking right? You dont want your kids living back home? Kick them out. Become the real parent you never were. Your kids are a relfection of you + your teachings + real world experience. If you deny them experience, let them play video games all day, then dont be surprised by the outcome.

Parents dont understand WHY the kids cant get jobs. Its fairly simple: THERE ARE NO JOBS! Have you seen job listings in the last 5 years? Hundreds of people applying for one shitty job. Its a nightmare. I was lucky enough to go to a top 10 university, so finding a job is easy, but for the other 95% coming out of community colleges or no-name private schools, with no STEM degree nonetheless, there arent any jobs.

And you might say "well become a fry cook/construction worker/traffic controller/waiter/bartender". Most of these types of jobs would probably deny you on the grounds that your "overqualified". In fact, Ive seen people with Master's Degrees have a harder time finding jobs than those with bachelors. You have NO idea what the competition is like today. If your not a MAJOR talent, have connections, or have money, you need to be an ambitious self-starter with serious organization skills. How many people do you think are naturally organized and ambitious? I would bet less than 10% of the population.

 

lil dirtball's picture

> He lived through the Holocaust ...

Which one?

aurum4040's picture

Your post contains alot of truth. Competition is extremely fierce and on top of everything just 15 years people didnt have to contend with H1B visas along w the corresponding draining of the salary pool. States are nearly bankrupt, most corporations will do anything to keep your salary low (for the majority), and education cost has gone exponential in the last 25 years. Id say that most (by small margin) here on zerohedge have no clue what any of that is like unless their kids have experienced it. However, most here are ambitious and goal oriented, probably more intelligent than most. And in todays world, that is what separates the haves from the have nots. 25 30 years ago even 40 years that shit didnt matter for the most part. The jobs and the wages were just there while inflation wasnt. Many people, myself included, take natural intelligence  and ambition for granted - we seemingly think well I did it why cant he/she? Its more complicated then that - there are alot of people and Id argue close to 80 to 90 % who just dont have it. Others are lazy of course. But, lets just appreciate the fact we have the ability and intelligence to have this conversation - we all should realize that the majority of the people we run into wouldnt have a clue how to discuss this topic let alone everything else we see through. Cheers and best. 

snr-moment's picture

spot on!  since their will always be a bottom 60th percentile, isn't the job of a representative .GOV to find jobs for them so they can feed themselves?  This would normally mean pro-growth policies to foster the private sector but with our socialist, statist, globalist pseudointellectual elite it means expanding the FSA.  And then the spiral. 

It's nothing short of treason.

TheObsoleteMan's picture

Show me someone who claims they fled Europe during the 1930s, and I'll show you a Marxist. The "Holocaust" is really a Holohoax. Just another Jewish hustle to get money from the goyium. The real Holocaust is what was done to the German people from 1945 onward, and no, I'm not even talking about what the Russians did to them, I'm talking about the Americans, French and British. Most people don't have a clue about the "Morganthau boys", and their little escapades.

inhibi's picture

Last US generation to feel any suffering is practically dead. That would be my grandpa @ 98, still kicking and driving around his buddies like hes 35.

He lived through the Holocaust, came to the US, fought in the Pacific Theatre, pushed corpses from the beaches into the water for the sharks (no joke - called it the red water burial), came back to the US, went to NYU & Germany to get his MD, moved to California, and became the oldest practicing doctor in California when he turned 89.

Those people dont exist anymore.

And you make it sound like its the fault of the Millenials that they cant be parented. U must be joking right? You dont want your kids living back home? Kick them out. Become the real parent you never were. Your kids are a relfection of you + your teachings + real world experience. If you deny them experience, let them play video games all day, then dont be surprised by the outcome.

Parents dont understand WHY the kids cant get jobs. Its fairly simple: THERE ARE NO JOBS! Have you seen job listings in the last 5 years? Hundreds of people applying for one shitty job. Its a nightmare. I was lucky enough to go to a top 10 university, so finding a job is easy, but for the other 95% coming out of community colleges or no-name private schools, with no STEM degree nonetheless, there arent any jobs.

And you might say "well become a fry cook/construction worker/traffic controller/waiter/bartender". Most of these types of jobs would probably deny you on the grounds that your "overqualified". In fact, Ive seen people with Master's Degrees have a harder time finding jobs than those with bachelors. You have NO idea what the competition is like today. If your not a MAJOR talent, have connections, or have money, you need to be an ambitious self-starter with serious organization skills. How many people do you think are naturally organized and ambitious? I would bet less than 10% of the population.

 

currentsea's picture

there are no jobs is right.  i'm from new jersey the rents are obsene.  $1,200 a month gets you a studio in the hood with roaches and a neighbor who keeps you up cooking crack all night.  

insanelysane's picture

Tell your wife that a divorce would be cheaper and that she can help her brother out with her half of your money.

Steeley's picture

For no more than $140 you get a bus ticket from New Jersey to anywhere else in the country.

Teja's picture

you know - Lies, Damn Lies, Statistics. The "living at home" statistics includes those who still continue their education and those who have got a first job, but live in a region with very high rents.

Much more telling would be the state-based statistics on young people neither in education nor working, just sitting idle at home. If someone has got a link to such a chart, please post it!

Steeley's picture

RTFA (Read the Fucking Article), the chart you seek is included (table 6). By far most of the live-at-home's are unemployed and not in school.

If you don't fucking work then everywhere is too expensive.

 

Son of Loki's picture

I took a second job on the weekends and paid all my stuff off when i realized what a schmuck I was. I was glad my parent refused to hand me a dime and said I needed to learn from this experience early in life and I did. Father Loki said it "would build my back bone."............................and he was right!

First, control ALL spending. I mean EVERYTHING except food and shelter. No freaking [refugee] Starbucks, no dinners out, etc ... and eat cheap but healthy (sardines, pastas, etc) at home.

Take a second job if possible and if anyone else can work in the family then go work even if it's part time.

Third, try to get a personal loan and consolidate at a lower rate then the cc companies charge.

It takes huuuggge discipline but if he doesn;t learn now, it will be harder later in my experience.

Anyway, that worked for me and I'm in great shape now and disciplined. The world and economies are only going to get worse imo, my friend, so he better learn to "buckle down" as they say.

inhibi's picture

I agree with everything you said.

But you must know that my parents didnt have to live like that: eating 0.39c ramen, never going out, trying to minimalize everything you do, or only do things that are free.

That leads me to my second point: almost everything is expensive these days. Just taking public transpo can be expensive. A dinner out for 2 people is easily $80-100 with drinks. Gas isnt expensive but its not cheap either. Hotels are a huge ripoff. Movies are retardedly expensive. Millenials, if they do work full time, are usually working incredibly long hours with little vacation time. I work 70 hours a week right now. Most of my friends are working 55 to 65 hours, salaried pay too which sucks. No chance of pensions. 401k benefits are small, usually they match 4-6% of your pay. Rent is INSANE. Literally, INSANE. If you want to work for a large corporation, your stuck living in a large city where you can easily end of paying a third or even more of your gross income in rent. Most companies make it clear that raises and bonuses are to be rarely changed and promotions are usually only possible for those with connections or if you transfer. Working your way up in a company is harder than ever. Most of the really well paying positions, like VP's, Senior Managers, etc. are hired from outside. The game is different. Its harder to play, and much harder to make a decent living. At some point, people just want to live instead of scrounging around for the crumbs off the table. I dont blame them. Why waste your prime years eating shit and sleeping in an apt all day when you can live with your parents?

Dilluminati's picture

You sound like myself, my first place I bought was so effing run down the first thing I did was rip out all the stinking carpet and lived on plywood floors for years.  To make it even more ridiculous it was a 14' x 70' trailer.  I had a small little notebook that I wrote every expense in.  I managed to finance forward and learned how interest worked and then paid off in under ten, I never went into debt again,  But for me it wasn't rent it was a purcahse of property.

Id walk lowes and go ohhh and ahhhh and not have any more money than what it took to buy hotdogs, scrapple, eggs, loaf of bread, pickled balogna.  My vacation was staycation.  That is true.  A  piece of property 30 acres on scrub brush that had been partially logged.  And cars?? I'll admit the old man must of concluded that a new one would assist in getting me laid and helped out.  

But I'll tell you the truth I paid that mortgage myself.

I bought the property with a bounced check, I called the bank and told them I had written the check and put a despoit on it and that I wanted to buy the property and that I needed to reopen the account.  There was a pregnant silence and the bank president said let me go look at it and CLICK (literally hung up on me) he called me back later and said I think you got a pretty good deal and that he would write the loan and I needed to get a job.  It was for 11.5% interest as the property was non hud conforming, I learned me lesson when I refinanced and never borrowed again.

True story, never paid interest again.

back in the day you called a local bank, told them a bad check might be due in 30 (swear to god 30) and because I was watching TV on how to get rich off of property spent the next ten years of my life getting a real education.   nowadays that would be a crime

HRClinton's picture

Between his and her IQ, poor judgement and lack of common sense, you should offer to help by paying for her contraceptives. People like this should not breed. 

Tell her to to stop dancing on his pole, and to become a paid Pole Dancer.

peippe's picture

sounds like it's time for him to become a garbage man.

18-22/hour, way better than 1800/month.

there will always be garbage.

Bananamerican's picture

in may Lib urban centers "whitey need not apply"

StagStopa's picture

Got that right. Vfw. Very few whites. Ps. Do not piss those guys off by cramming oversize pallets in the dumpster..

Roxi

2_legs_bahhhhhd's picture

No one should be allowed to get that far in debt on that salary, no matter how stupid they are.

Your wife has you in the pickle hold. Let us know how it goes...lol