There Will Be Blood: Left Prepares For War After Berkeley Beat Down With "Combat Training, Better Equipment, Guns..."

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Mac Slavo via SHTFplan.com,

Last week Trump supporters and leftist social justice warriors met on the political field of battle in Berkeley, California. Words were exchanged, as were punches. And while an alt-right leader was punched in the face, by all accounts even the social justice warriors admit that they got a major beat-down.

This prompted a reddit discussion among the left’s tolerant resistance movement, with many asking how they can more effectively go to war against anyone who disagrees with their social, political, and economic views.

The anti-Trump protesters at the rally were ill-prepared for what they came to Berkeley to confront and now they are trying to figure out ways to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

In short, as predicted, they are turning to militancy and mob action by mobilizing individuals and groups to attend combat training seminars, acquiring better equipment like baseball bats and helmets, and of course, if things really go bad… guns.

Yes, we seemed to have lost today. The alt-right held their ground. If we wanna take action against them, we need to be better organized and better trained. It doesn’t help that it’s only the far left opposing them, any trump supporter can be radicalized far easier than any liberal.
 
I hope we learn from today
 
 
A shocking number of our comrades went in there with absolute no combat training. We need to set up seminars or something of the sort.
 
 
We also need better equipment, I know the bandanna and hoodie look is our trade mark, but I saw the right wearing motorcycle helmets, and baseball helmets. A dude wearing a helmet is going to keep going if he get punched, our guys are going down.

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And though they are, always have been and always will be “tolerant” and “peaceful protesters,” many are now discussing arming themselves so they can go head to head with the “fascist” and “racist” alt-right.

I honestly think we need a campaign to get more antifa armed. It seems that seems to be the biggest problem with our resistance. They’re mostly armed, why aren’t we?

 

 

Not getting disarmed is a big part of the problem, yes, but we need more than flags and bats. We need to take notes from the John Brown Gun Club and get firearms and training. I know getting firearms in states and cities we have a presence in is usually a hassle, but even handguns would help. It would certainly put a psychological element in while holding fash back. Who do you think a fascist is more afraid of? People with only flags and bats, or people with flags, bats, and guns?

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The “comrades” organizing against “fascists,” which basically means anyone and everyone who voted for President Trump, are quickly coming to the conclusion that to win this conflict they will need to be armed with more than just flags, banners, chants and pepper spray.

And all this time we thought hugging it out would be the solution…

Apparently, there is a realization among the left that whatever it is they are trying to accomplish will not come with peaceful assembly, but rather, with blood in the streets.

As we and others like Brandon Smith of Alt-Market previously warned, the Left WILL Resort To Large Scale Violence… To Stop Fascism:

I believed at that time that the social-justice cult would lose mainstream influence but that the existing minority would resort to even more insidious tactics and greater violence to get what they want; and, the so-called “moderate left” would cheer them on.  As it turns out, I have been proven right so far.

 

Not that extreme Leftists have been averse to violence over the past year, but I think it is safe to say that the volume on the cultural Marxist machine has been turned up a notch.

 

 

The social justice mantra is changing. At first, it was predominately about forming mobs to “shame” target political opponents into silence. Now, it is about forming mobs to do what they call “punching Nazis.” Leftists are now often seen regurgitating the claim — “This is only the beginning…”

Indeed, this is only the beginning.

Ladies and Gentlemen, if you have a Trump bumper sticker, an American flag or a Gadsden decal on your vehicle, prepare to defend yourselves.

There will be war.

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localsavage's picture

Sorry leftys but, you guys are pussies and no amount of traning will cure that.  You will only raise the bar higher to an area where you really don't want to go.

MANvsMACHINE's picture

To become a full fledged antifa member, you need to be able to cry on cue.

Troy Ounce's picture

 

 

George Soros will pay your bill. Waddayawant?

NextLevelWoke's picture

(1) Stage fake street fights

(2) Broadcast everywhere to encourage more

(3) ????

(4) Gun control / camps / etc.  Winning!

Manthong's picture

OK F-tards…

What are you going to against the “Alt-Center” when they start picking you off from 600 yards or more distance?

 

Oh.. maybe whine some more?

 

MagicHandPuppet's picture

Sorry, Snowflakes.  Your attempts to train yourselves to accomplish something out of your rabid tears is futile.  That said, your continual whining about losing so often really is entertaining.  Please keep it up... for entertainment's sake.

Raffie's picture

So they LOST at preventing Freedom of Speech is what they are saying.

Why stay there when N Korea would be happy to have the Berkysidal Loonatics.

J S Bach's picture

Let's not delude ourselves either.  The "Trumpsters" are fighting for a flip-flopping traitor just as the Left is.  The real ideological battle must be waged against the puppeteers... not the puppets.  Our "violence" must be aimed at those truly responsible.  You figure it out, dear reader.

BaBaBouy's picture

LOL... The PowderPuffs Want Woaaar ...

tmosley's picture

>Every single person on the left is now a target

Come on guys, my penis can only become so erect.

Manthong's picture

Hmm.. let’s see…

800 yards.. about 1.4 seconds travel time,,, 65 clicks on the M-24's scope at a slight elevation.. light wind.. about a dot of holdover…

Poof! … another Soros contractor de-flaked.

 

..but he had a ball-bat and a .22 auto-misfire in his hands

 

El Vaquero's picture

Just put the Magpul MOE fixed rifle length stock on the AR-10 and dropped about 10oz of weight off of it.  I need to get the QD cup for the sling, and then make the sling. I'm going to make one that functions like this one:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JflObnFNvyM

And I'm putting buckles in so that I can swap out the main part of the sling so that I can have an arm loop like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdZ3XFrImRA

 

A good sling is VERY handy tool for practical long range shooting, especially when you have a heavy rifle like I do.  Those guys have some pretty slick stuff. 

 

So, to answer this douchebag's question:

Who do you think a fascist is more afraid of? People with only flags and bats, or people with flags, bats, and guns?

Aside from the fact that not everybody that faggot wants to go after is a fascist, neither.  If they go that route, the gloves come off, and they'll figure out that a lifetime of shooting and hunting teaming up with combat vets trumps their little training camps. 

Manthong's picture

Heavy rifle?

Don’t ask me about the M82A2 because I will not tell you.

Except one needs to stay in shape even to get the son-of-a bitch to a shooting venue.

 

..so the guy at the gun store almost 10 years ago asked...

"Do you need help carrying the thing out to the truck?"..

I replied "If you can't carry it, you do not deserve to own it".

 

El Vaquero's picture

I haven't weighed it yet, because, even though I've already begun load development and have fired it, it's still not done.  Before I put the MOE on it, it was heavier than my friend's Model 700 in 300 RUM, and that is no small rifle. 

 

As for the Barrets, yeah, those 50s are heavy.  The rifle plus 100 rounds of ammo is going to weigh around 60lbs.  I've shot the 50s before, and IMO, unless you have a lot of money for them as a hobby, or have at least a very well trained (and in good shape)  two man team, the weight and cost makes them impractical.  I'm not saying that they don't have potential, just that most people won't be able to take full advantage of their potential.  A friend of mine who was a USMC sniper stated that, if one was on the shooting mat and he was given a full mag to shoot, he'd happily do so, but if he never saw another one again, he'd also be happy.  He liked shooting them, but he hated humping them. 

 

My rifle plus 200 rounds is going to be around 25lbs.  Hopefully (it's a hard hunt,) I'll get to test it out on an Oryx in July.  If not, then I have a deer hunt in November and another cow elk hunt in December, and those two are a very high probability of a kill. 

Manthong's picture

Your Marine friend is correct, humping the thing is a bear, but it is fun to watch the eyebrows raise and eyeballs  bug out with the report.

..and the stand-off distance (like near a couple thousand meters with >160 some clicks in the Leupold) might inspire confidence

And yes .. a good spotter is hard to find..

...folks like me need a bit of help moving all of the green boxes.

 

..I have the same problem with the Ag.

 

Manthong Original Quote: "If you can move all of your PM's, guns and ammo on a single industrial 4-wheel cart or pallet... you do not have enough".

..and oh, I can get under 35 pounds or so with other stuff but I might be getting a bit old for the really rapid movement scenario.

 

 

El Vaquero's picture

Fucking hell, I'm under 40, and I can't keep up with the 18yr olds who are active by a long shot when it comes to push hard and fuck everything else.  The stick figure SJWs I can run circles around.  Making allies and treachery is the trade of old men.  The problem is not turning that off once the threat has passed, and I include the making allies in that.  If you make allies for purposes of war, you will go to war when they do. 

Manthong's picture

I had a bit of a hard time heaving the 12”  DeWalt radial arm saw from the floor to the new mobile stand,

And don’t even ask about the trouble moving the Delta table saw with solid iron wings into its new spot.

But, outside of a sore muscle or two the heavy lifting thing has not been a problem, but I do have a nice new chain hoist I need to hang from the rafters after I MIG weld a support jig.

.. and go figure.. relaxation is time in the lab with the Androids, Arduino and breadboards.

ZH is the place I go when the missus gets ornery.

Why do you think I am an irritable bag of sarc?

Maybe I should do a Youtoob of a slightly older fart shoulder firing the big thing.

 

Misean's picture

Oh come on you too. I'm over 50 and the only kids who out do me at the gym are the football players. And while I love .50 cals like I love '63 split window Vette's they're not precticable norr necessary. A nice 10lb regular old .338 Lapua at range will do just nicely.

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/savage-model-110-fcp-bolt-action...

El Vaquero's picture

I'm talking about the 18yr olds who are in shape.  Not the urban basement dwellers.  I go out into the woods and when my friend's kids are out there, they're like fucking mountain goats or Persian Ibex or some shit, I swear.  

 

The .338 is nice, but it's a matter of too many cool guns and not enough time or money.  A friend of mine has one.  He has more cool guns than you can shake a stick at, not that you wouldn't mind taking a stick into his house and trying.  He drilled an antelope a few years ago at ~650 yards with it, and even at that range, it still ruined an entire quarter.  

Underground's picture

Are you kidding me! Don't sell your self's short! I have seen older humans out smart and out skill more young punks... A larger worry is that this is likely the shadow foregin controllers way of starting a civil war. One of the ways to erase that pesky 20 trillion dollars in debt we racked up..

TrajanOptimus's picture

M82/107 is useless for anything other than shooting cars and through block walls. 3 moa accuracy on a good day if you are shooting LC ammo. Raufoss is $75 a round when you can find it and even good hand loads don't deliver because good quality AP pills do not exist and Hornady pills are good for nothing but paper and can barely be seated deep enough to fit the M82's mag.

If ANTIFA shows up in a Prius, than that's the tool but if you just want to convert them to pink mist from a distance a 338 Lapua loaded with 200 grain pills at 3200 fps center mass will do the job nicely. Nice shot to the sternum to petal the bullet and it's goodnight Irene. His heart is splattered on the bastard behind him.

God I love good gun talk on a Sunday morning.

El Vaquero's picture

Yeah, that's the other problem with the 50.  Quality ammo is expensive.  Last time I checked, factory ammo with A-Max bullets was something like $10 or $15 per round.  You could get disassimbled ball ammo, but you'd have to run the bullets through a die to make sure they were round if you wanted them to shoot halfway decent.  

 

Check out Nosler's Long Range Accubond for .338.  Hornady is going to need to step up its game.  I'm a fan of bonded bullets after having been burned by shooting at an elk and hitting some brush right in front of her with a bullet that wasn't bonded.  She got sprayed with hot lead that did little more than sting like a bitch.  Things like the Bergers and the SMKs are absolutely devastating when you put it right where you want it, but you can run into problems if you are in brush, or even worse, if you hit a bone that you didn't intend to hit.  That elk would have folded had I been shooting a bonded bullet.  She was at about 200 yards and I had a nice rest with the crosshairs right on her spine, and I did squeeze the trigger on that shot.  

The_Juggernaut's picture

Can you believe these dumb motherfuckers?  Getting their asses kicked in a fistfight wasn't enough, now they want to lose a gunfight!  Can't say I'll feel sorry for them.

OverTheHedge's picture

Does no one else see the irony of left-wing protesters calling for firearms? That in itself is funny.

I would think that they will be calling for even MORE gun control, to reduce their opposition's ability to respond.

I just hope for your sakes that this peters out on its own - you really don't want a civil war, I assure you. Even more, you don't want fifty years of underground home grown terrorism, funded by external actors, mostly to benefit the statist tendencies of the ruling elite. If you must do it, at least be quick about it, and then have some truth and reconciliation as quick as you can. Or, spend the rest of time like Northern Ireleand, revenging 400 year old murders by committing more murders. They are still at it, bless their Christian little cotton socks.

Manthong's picture

Gee.. well said.. deep.

Howsomever, as long as MSM, commie university perfessors and Islam are a thing, the entire world will have beaucoup problemas.

 

Haus-Targaryen's picture

Antifa's hubris goeth before a fall.  

These people are only able to exist in the vacuum between what the law is willing to hold the "right" to and what the law is willing to hold "them" to. 

When this changes, most of these rat-bastards will run back to their parent's basement.  For those that don't, well, Europe has a long tradition of dealing with Bolsheviks in a certain way.  I have no doubt they'd be dealt with similarly again. 

Manthong's picture

.. my spidey sense says Le Pen will blow out her opposition by a mile (1.6 km to you folks in metric land)..

Oh gosh, oh gee, oh my, that would that be a really fun spectacle.

AVmaster's picture

Interesting comment chain we got going on here ^.^

 

Anyways, in the op: They talk and act like fuckin highschoolers... Keep the beatdown going Men!

 

Also, notice the leftard "crowd" keeps on getting smaller and smaller and smaller...

 

Another year or so and all will be forgotten.

 

Feminism is dead too...

Manthong's picture

I am really handy with tall hardwood columns, mortise/ tenon joints and heavy, sharp angled blades…

Maybe I can help bring 1790’s tradition back to my French friends.

HooRAY4rSIDE's picture

The WARRIORS took down the Turnbull AC's, the Orphans, The Baseball Furies, the Punks, the Lizzies, and finally the Rogues (ht Gramercy Riffs).

 

These SJ WARRIORS wouldn't even make it out of Van Cortlandt Park.

Manthong's picture

.. and hi to my troll

I kind of thought you might lose the vitriol, but you obviously do not have that mental capacity.

Live with it.

I own you as long as you do.

Heh.. heh.. heh

DanDaley's picture

Rule number 1 - Don't underestimate your enemy. Several years ago I told my far lefty neighbor that some day the left would have a choice: Either they would ally themselves with the mohammedans (which i still think most of them will do -naturally intolerant bedfellows), or wake up and realize that the left only supresses liberty.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

I'm sorry but you have the wrong reference point. Think GERMANY...

"but tonight we gonna party like it's 1929" (with apologies to Prince) 

Know that wherever "anti-fascism" rears it's head, it is actually a front for violent Socialism, nee Communism.

tmosley's picture

It wouldn't last that long. The surveillance state sees all, and AI analysis of social networks has been good enough to determine your social network for years, as I saw when I signed up for Twitter and it popped up all of my friends and colleagues that were on there as well. Add in data on cell phone locations, automatic sentiment analysis of antifa social network posts, phone calls, and anything they have said near their personal bugs.

No, this won't last long at all. Stalin's wet dream, but this time, turned against the communists.

McCarthy did nothing wrong.

BarkingCat's picture

Northern Ireland is not a civil war.

It is the Irish trying to get rid of those who invaded and continue to occupy part of their country.

mike_king's picture

Papists are mentally ill losers.

Misean's picture

I completely agree with your sentiment. But I know an Irishman or two, and Sinn Fein isn't foreign to them, so to speak. And I'll tell ya, these kids ain't Sinn Fein. They're more likely to maim themselves and their buddies than any counter protesters.

I learned my way around fire arms starting at 9. I do not fear them. Respect yes, fear no. I've seen some of these 20 year old kids (particularly girls) panic seeing me cleaning a gun. It's sad, but it'll take them YEARS to overcome that brainwashing. That was the left's whole point in the government youth indoctrination prison camps. It worked. It's not getting undone with some weekend "combat" training.

Manthong's picture

methinks they are way out of their league with the gun talk.

Even in Mexifornia, the 10 round castrated blowback at high caliber could be significant.

NoPension's picture

Oh, goody.
I'm getting old, here.

Bubba Rum Das's picture

"Don’t ask me about the M82A2 because I will not tell you."

"If you can't carry it, you do not deserve to own it".

Fuck that...I'm an old Gheezer, I use my ATV & a fucking golf caddy w/ oversize wheels for the heavy shit.

Try hauling a Yugo M-53 belt fed around w/ 400 rnd.'s of belted 8mm by yourself for even half a mile...It'll beat the shit out of a soldier w/ out some kind of cart or caddy.
Normally just the weapon w/ bipod is carried by one soldier while another soldier carrys the spare barrel & the rest of the belted ammo...Besides, two man teams work much better w/ one guy as the gunner & the other guy as spotter & to direct fire...

Now just try doing all that shit by yourself...

Barrett M82A1? Usually the marine snipers use two man teams for the same reason...

Lighter package than an MMG, but at the ranges you are utilizing a Barrett, a spotter is very useful...!

SWRichmond's picture

Just put the Magpul MOE fixed rifle length stock on the AR-10 and dropped about 10oz of weight off of it.  I need to get the QD cup for the sling, and then make the sling. I'm going to make one that functions like this one:

And I'm putting buckles in so that I can swap out the main part of the sling so that I can have an arm loop like this:

A good sling is VERY handy tool for practical long range shooting, especially when you have a heavy rifle like I do.  Those guys have some pretty slick stuff.

Looks great, except...Can Tony do any of that stuff with that rifle and sling while he is wearing a pack, a couple days' food, water bladder / purification, ammo, a secondary, medical kit / soft-T, comms, countermeasures, etc?

I didn't think so.  You gotta think these things through.  When will you be out shooting bad guys with nothing but your buff self and a rifle?  NEVER.  It might work in tactical PRS matches, where you can go back to your car afterwards, and that's probably the target market.

El Vaquero's picture

Even with all of that gear, you're still going to want a good sling.  Too many people are too quick to criticize and too slow to offer solutions.  

SWRichmond's picture

Figure it out.  Top secret.

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

Best thing to do next rally is have spotters who can inform police of active threats in the crowd.

I use that line from First Blood now and then 'war they won't believe' mostly having a laugh but ultimately - I mean it. I mean it as to these smug, self-righteous college kids and 'activists' who are playing at 'war' because I know, as do many of you guys, that the really dangerous people are not in their ranks, and a few of them would not have much of a problem shooting college kids because they think Civil War is inevitable.

But I suspect that low-level guerilla war invites a govt response we dont want (but that Soros and pals might given their hatred of 'populism' ie democracy).

I think at this stage the Alt Right and 'Alt Center' ( a term I like, btw) are best off basically using police as sword and shield. Let antifa attack us *and* thereby police.

Occam's War Razor: Do not multiply enemies needlessly.

The core issue isnt Trump - fuck Trump - he has Obamaed the right and Kushner is the harbinger of the apocalypse.... the core issue is, can we have free speech. And can we have borders. And can we not have government forcing us to pay for illegal immigrants.

You want open borders? Get rid of the welfare state and we can talk. Talk about *changing the law* rather than arguing for selective enforcement of laws because 'democracy' might not get the result you want to force on everyone else.

Anyway, best to have antifa be dealtg with by LEO.

If we really get into a situation like what's happening in Paris ((you guys seen that shit - looks like zombie hordes... really seems to be creeping toward civil war for real and I suspect CIA/Soros and friends could well be ginning that up but it also is probably not necessary given that France has hiven over whole suburbs to Africans and Arabs who hate the West))...

in that circumstance then it may be time to shoot some commies but we arent there yet and we dont want it to get there.

But yeah - these kids really need to take a deep breath and realize that 1) there are very few 'nazis' around and 2) we are getting tired of having that term used against anyone who dissents from the Leftist (or Zionist) narratives, and 3) we are substantially more dangerous than you seem to realize.

This is still playtime. Playtime involves civilian police using minimal force to restore order and arrest troublemakers for criminal prosecution.

Keep pushing, keep buying into the 'anarchist' idiot worldview, playtime will be over, and not only will you be facing people with combat and sniper training - you will be dealing with literal sociopaths just barely holding it together stateside who would rather kill you and your friends than win the lottery. I am not one of those people. I am not eager to kill anyone. Especially stupid suburbanites playing soldier.

But if playtime ends, its not just a matter of antifa dealing with trained killers in the streets, it involves some bright eyed Antifa member calling for 'nazi scalps' on reddit Tuesday night, and waking up dead on Wednesday.

Keep asking for it, someone will give it to you.

Let's embrace free speech and debate and keep Pandora's box closed.

... if you havent seen the most recent shit in france, look around youtube...

if it happens here, it will be way, way worse for obvious reasons.

Misean's picture

+10000. Anyone not a psycho or socio path who's ever hunted remembers his first kill. It's not glorious, it's not glamorous, it is just done. It cannot be undone. I'll take heated debate over hot lead any day.

SWRichmond's picture

The core issue is, can we have liberty?  The core issue is, do we exist at the pleasure of government, or vice versa?

StychoKiller's picture

Whoa, "Blue-veined Throbber!"  :>D

Sudden Debt's picture

A while ago I was talking to a leftist moron who told me he had been following a self defence course for years now...

he could floor me with just 2 fingers...

so I said : Show me!

 

That moron tried to hold my hand and bend my fingers to get me down and crap but I have pretty strong hands and he was... a sissy.

So I called it all bullshit and mocked him.

I could show him how to floor him with his trick. I just grabbed his hand and and cracked it down untill he was on his knees.

His defence? YEAH, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW YOU SHOULD DO IT!!

:) yeah...

like in a fight I would ask him :)

I floored him and just gave him 3 slaps on the head just for playing and that idiot crawled up! That's the last thing you do in a fight!

Nevermind I wouldn't even bother with all that crap and just would start beating his face into pulp wich probalby isn't in the self defence manual either.

I learned fighting when I was a kid. When we where bored, we just said "wanne fight?" and we fought for an hour. That pussy was watching butterflies pass by behind the window.

 

You can't learn fighting if you don't know how it feels to get punched in the face and keep fighting.

 

And if a moron would wear a helmet in front of me, it would all be so much easier!!!

hold the helmet and bodypunch that moron! And a good knee on the spine to help him remember you in the morning.

So when they start wearing helmets, they might be in for a surprise if they fight guys who like to fight :)

 

Bubba Rum Das's picture

 

"So when they start wearing helmets, they might be in for a surprise if they fight guys who like to fight :)"

Yeah, but don't knock helmets, in a beat down situation where you are outnumbered in a riot & your opponants have sticks or clubs, it can make the difference between suffering a concussion, or overwheliming your opponents...
When you are outnumbered & being attacked from all sides, a helmet can be the differince between life & death...Why riot cop's wear them!