Yale Psychiatrists Just Warned There Is Something Seriously Wrong With Trump

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Update from Bandy X. Lee, M.D., M.Div., Assistant Clinical Professor in Law and Psychiatry, Yale School of Medicine

 “The panel at Yale School of Medicine abided by ‘the Goldwater rule.’  Eminent psychiatrists were invited to speak about whether there are other ethical rules that override it, as in ordinary practice.  The organizer, Dr. Bandy Lee, agrees with the Goldwater rule, although she is troubled by its recent expansion (as of March 16, 2017) and the silencing of debate.  She hopes that the public and politicians will understand that mental health issues are not to be used as a weapon.  Psychologist Dr. John Gartner was invited as an activist but was not on the actual panel.  The organizer emphasizes that the event was independent and did not represent the views of Yale University or Yale School of Medicine.”

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Via TheAntiMedia.org,

“I’ve worked with murderers and rapists. I can recognize dangerousness from a mile away. You don’t have to be an expert on dangerousness or spend fifty years studying it like I have in order to know how dangerous this man is.”

Those words came from the mouth of James Gilligan, psychiatrist and professor at New York University. The man he is speaking of is the president of the United States.

Gilligan’s comments were one of many from a group of psychiatrists who gathered at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday. The message presented was that Donald Trump is mentally unfit to be in the White House.

Dr. John Gartner, practicing psychiatrist and founding member of Duty to Warn, a group of several dozen mental health professionals who feel it’s their obligation to inform the public about the president’s mental state, says the warning signs have been there from the beginning.

“Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking, and he proved that to the country the first day he was president,” Dr. Gartner said.

Earlier in the year, claiming Trump is “psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President,” Dr. Gartner started a petition calling for Trump to be removed from office. So far, that petition has received nearly 47,000 signatures.

Dr. Bandy Lee, who chaired the conference and is an assistant clinical professor in Yale’s department of psychology, thinks Trump’s mental state is an issue people are beginning to become concerned about:

As some prominent psychiatrists have noted, [Trump’s mental health] is the elephant in the room. I think the public is really starting to catch on and widely talk about this now.

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arbwhore's picture

Does the Skipper know that Gilligan is talking about Our Supreme Leader this way?

The_Juggernaut's picture

Obama was just fine, though.

Pure Evil's picture

And, Hillary would have been perfectly acceptable.

beemasters's picture

The Deep State knew from the start they could exploit his mental disorder... or Hillary's, whichever the case might be.

Anyone sane wouldn't have been nominated.

macholatte's picture

Dr. John Gartner, practicing psychiatrist and founding member of Duty
to Warn,

and where were these erudite concerned citizens when 
“a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking”
Marxist Muslim from Indonesia or Hawaii or Kenya, with no reliable background check was running for office or the alcoholic psycho wife of a former POTUS was running for office after having pocketed $140,000,000 selling uranium to the Ruskies?
Oh, those nut jobs were Progressive Communiists.
Never mind.

My book, The Hypomanic Edge: The Link Between (a Little) Craziness and (a lot of) Success in America, which links hypomania to both success and the American temperament was named by the New York Times Sunday Magazine year in ideas issue as one of the most innovative and important new ideas of 2005. In my second book, In Search of Bill Clinton: A Psychological Biography, named one of the best biographies of 2008 by Booklist, official publication of the American Library Association, I present Bill Clinton as a case study in hypomania. In my work with hypomanics I emphasize how to gain self control while at the same time not losing one's creative spark, working to capitalize on hypomania’s strengths such as energy, drive, creativity, confidence and charisma, while also guarding against it’s liabilities such as arrogance, impatience, irritability and impulsivity. The cultivation of mindfulness helps the hypomanic slow things down enough so that they can make better judgments and choices, and increase their empathy for how others experience them, and protect their relationships from being damaged.
– Dr. John Gartner  http://www.johngartner.com/

TeamDepends's picture

Zerohedge just warned that there is something seriously wrong with Yale.

Yukon Cornholius's picture

'Dangerousness', huh? Sounds like the small-minded are inventing big words again.

weburke's picture

clearly, he knows nothing about how power is controlled. sure, it looks like it is just blowing with the wind, but, absolutely not.

knukles's picture

So this is where Medicine has gone, right alongside the Sciences.
Everything has been politicized until their final human contribution has become a deficit.

I was chatting with a well respected shrink the other day.  As in engaged in conversation, and asked him whet his profession used to do 10 years ago with the Conspiracy Theorist.  He related how they would analyze the individual and if concluded that the person was say, paranoid, administer the proper drug(s).
I pointed out that most then, of the conspiracy theorists drugged had not been mentally ill and etc.


The Matrix is Alive and Very Very Well

DownWithYogaPants's picture

I believe that 

Dangerousness == Danger

For example:   "I try to avoid dangerousness" is the same as saying "I try to avoid danger"

Chief Wonder Bread's picture

... and yet he somehow manages to maintain the perfect coiffure even in a straitjacket! : D)

Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

Remember...  These are the people who think that "mental illness" should be a reason for taking away your 2nd Amendment right.

The Stasi defining who is mentally ill.  Yeah, that'll work.

Manthong's picture

Geez, doesn’t anybody appreciate crappy modern noise masquerading as music?

Schlump's picture

I'm dangerous all right!

PT's picture

Thank goodness that Trump became President.  Otherwise everyone would have kept ignoring him and NO-ONE would have discovered that he is really a homophobic racist womanizing mentally ill Hitler colluding with the Russians with whom he wishes to start WW3.  No-one would have known that.  He might have grown old and died without anyone knowing.  Thank goodness Trump became President so we could all learn the truth!  He got away with it for 70 years.  If not for the Presidency he may have gotten away with it for 71 years!  Or maybe even 72 years!  Phew.  That was close.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

I crave the smell of nuclear fallout in the morning and the sight of sun at dusk in a nuclear fallout, bring it on Don, let's clean-up this planet of useless just grazing and shitting cattle ... 

soyungato's picture

So dangerous is actually dangerournessous and dangerously is dangerournessously. 

tmosley's picture

Sounds like Dr. (((Giligan))) should lose his license. Not fit.

You don't diagnose mental illness in a fucking ACTOR from a distance.

And yes, an actor is exactly what Trump is. He plays a part for the public, while for the first time since the days of the founding fathers, enacting policy based on systems rather than goals.

Colonel Klink's picture

Yep, I googled it too.  You know there's gotta be a fucking kike in there somewhere.  We all know who the most (((dangerous))) people to the world are.

Paul Kersey's picture

In today's political climate, who, other than a narcissist, a parasitic wealth extractor or a combination of both, would even have the desire to run for the office of U.S. President? Remember, Bill Clinton has amassed over $200 million since he left office. Wait until you see what Obama rakes in. Case closed.

The Management's picture

Agh man this PHD has no wikipedia and a one-star Facebook rating. Whats more cuckold than a progressive Yale psychologist profitting off reinforcing snowflake delusions?

Im quite enjoying their collective meltdown. Delicious.

rrrr's picture

Obviously, you need to be tutored in English usage, because you grew up in a state of tutoretivelessness.

auricle's picture

"Dangerousness" a new condition coming to the DSM-5. They won't stop until they can label everyone as having a disorder and in need of 'care'. 

Zero Point's picture

I'm sure President Stillson will be fine.

stormsailor's picture

+10 for the "deadzone" reference

Lore's picture

@ Knukles: Exactly. Any lawyer can tell you that a good way to discredit witnesses is to undermine their credibility by ascribing mental illness where none exists (and some of the best lawyers fit the clinical definition of a psychopath).

In a dangerous, pathological environment, the most rational person is the paranoiac. 

Manipulation of language is a very old instrument of control. Orwell, Bernays and many others have addressed it at length; most ZHers are well aware.  The elites have hidden Esoteric teachings behind Exoteric literal meanings for centuries.  "Political Correctness" is one modern application designed specifically to cloud public discourse.  Control the context and frame of reference, and any label can be bastardized and mis-applied.  In the wrong hands, the term "Conspiracy Theorist" is a quick and shallow way to denigrate and undermine any thinking person who asks hard questions.  Given the right context, it's a compliment. Similarly, the Thought Police would have you believe that "Discrimination" is a bad thing, e.g., "You're being discriminatory."  In the right context, being called "discriminating" is a compliment because it means you have standards and make critical value judgements. 

We need more smart, discriminating conspiracy theorists.

Withdrawn Sanction's picture

Trump may indeed be nuts, but these so-called "doctors" have committed malpractice and ethics violations by pronouncing a diagnosis w/o having PERSONALLY seen the patient under clinical conditions.  They should be stripped forthwith of their licenses.  

Stuck on Zero's picture

This psychiatrist seriously flew over the cuckoos nest.

Is-Be's picture

If you want to know the real state of the Psychiatric profession read " Mad in America".

Its a full on horror story.

Tip: What's the definition of o blockbuster drug? Cures malaria? Bzzzzt Wrong.

A blockbuster drug is a drug that is going to make the shareholders very rich. 

Question: Which country has the best prognosis for mental problems? ( Schizophrenia etc.) America? Bzzzzt! Wrong. Mozambique. The American psychiatrists insisted that the WHO do the survey again. They did, and got the same result.

The miracle cure of the 1950's? Sub orbital lobotomy.

The miracle cure of 2017? The same, but this time with a blockbuster drug. The advantage. Repeat purchase ( by the taxpayer, of cause)

1% of 260 million people are schizophrenic. Average dose $200 per week pet customer. For as long as the customer lives.

JRobby's picture

You nailed it! +1,000!

Internet-is-Beast's picture

Psychiatry is the most virulent manifestation of schizophrenia.

sodbuster's picture

FakeNews, FakeScience and now FakeMedicine!!!!!

goober's picture

Psychiatry has nothing at all to so with science, never has. It is much more closely aligned with voodoo. But they did fool a lot of people for decades.


Beyond that, science has become little more than a political religion to be used as a control mechanism, so none of it has any validity these days.

strannick's picture

He dont know sheet. Just another ivory tower Hillary shill

Bunga Bunga's picture

Trump not bombing enough, elites are furious, 'Skull & Bones' in action.

PrayingMantis's picture

... I don't have to be a Skull & Bones Yale psychiatrist to have 20/20 hindsight ...

... ;)

Never One Roach's picture

I'm sure these medical doctors reviewed all of Donald Trump's medical records and history and conducted several physical exams and interviews with him before coming to these conclusions otherwise I would expect they could face some serious defammation suits and maybe revoking of their medical licenses.


What doctor would make a diagnosis without even seeing the patient in his office esp one this serious?

Son of Loki's picture

These "doctors" give "junk science" real meaning.


I wonder if this is the same group of "psychiatrists" who concluded that most Trump supporters are raycists and white supremacists...based on zero evidence.

2_legs_bahhhhhd's picture

I don't see the issue here, trump has the same qualities of anyone that would want to be president, past and future.

Is-Be's picture

I'm not racist. I fuck anything.

TwelveOhOne's picture

Ain't nothing wrong with being racist.  Or having discriminating tastes.  One tends to prefer the company of those who think like, look like, and behave like one's self.  This applies to every individual; "Chinatown" exists for this reason.

Mr. Bones's picture

It costs the plebescite hundreds of dollars to visit a doctor, thousands for a specialist and the Donald is getting high powered diagnoses over the TV.

Reality Creator's picture

So all along I thought the reason why 0hedgers voted for Trump was because you liked this well-known trait in him. To hear you debate it and argue Trump is not a sociopath is flip-flopping. You wanted a fucking dangerous Caligula and you got him, so why go back on your word now?

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effendi's picture

Dangerousness is a perfectly cromulent word.

Dugald's picture


Yes! and they should all be LOCKED up............sorry, I just could not help it, waul, Sunday is my bad day..

ArthurDaley-OldieTimeTrader's picture

Or as Nassim Taleb would say Intellectual Yet Idiot..




Intellectual Yet Idiot: semi-erudite bureaucrat who thinks he is an erudite; pathologizes others for doing things he doesn't understand not realizing it is his understanding that may be limited; imparts normative ideas to others: thinks people should act according to their best interests *and* he knows their interests, particularly if they are uneducated "red necks" or English non-crisp-vowel class.

More socially: subscribes to the New Yorker; never curses on twitter; speaks of "equality of races" and "economic equality" but never went out drinking with a minority cab driver; has considered voting for Tony Blair; has attended more than 1 TEDx talks and watched more than 2 TED talks; will vote for Hillary Monsanto-Malmaison because she seems electable; has The Black Swan on his shelves but mistakes absence of evidence for evidence of absence; is member of a club to get traveling privileges; if social scientist uses statistics without knowing how they are derived; when in the UK goes to literary festivals; drinks red wine with steak (never white); used to believe that fat was harmful and has now completely reversed; takes statins because his doctor told him so; fails to understand ergodicity and when explained forgets about it soon later; doesn't use Yiddish words; studies grammar before speaking a language; has a cousin who worked with someone who knows the Queen; has never read Frederic Dard, Michael Oakeshot, John Gray, or Joseph De Maistre; has never gotten drunk with Russians and went breaking glasses; doesn't know the difference between Hecate and Hecuba; doesn't know that there is no difference between "pseudointellectual" and "intellectual"; has mentioned quantum mechanics at least twice in the past 5 years; knows at any point in time what his words or actions are doing to his reputation.

But a much easier marker: doesn't deadlift Nassim Taleb

Troy Ounce's picture


There was a March for science this weekend in the US with the goal to press the public perception to take science seriously. 

Climate change for instance. Haha.

George Soros is busy nowadays.