Democrats Take Government Hostage: Threaten To Shut It Down If GOP Repeals Obamacare

Tyler Durden's picture

Once again Republicans have managed to box themselves in.

Just as the GOP has reportedly found enough votes among conservative Republicans to pass the latest iteration of the proposed Healthcare bill, with Freedom Caucus Mark Meadows saying "republicans will have the votes to pass" Obamacare repeal, Democrats realized that they once again have the leverage to bring this whole process to a grinding halt halt. And they are using it.

As The Hill reports, House Democrats will oppose any short-term spending bill - which is what McConnell was hoping on passing to buy one week of time - if Republican leaders attempt to expedite an ObamaCare repeal bill this week, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) warned Thursday. In other words, Democrats are now holding the government hostage indefinitely as long as Republicans - who now have the votes to pass new healthcare legislation - threaten to repeal Obamacare.

Hoyer, the Democratic whip, spoke with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif) Thursday morning to warn him of the Democrats' position. "If Republicans announce their intention to bring their harmful TrumpCare bill to the House Floor tomorrow or Saturday, I will oppose a one-week Continuing Resolution and will advise House Democrats to oppose it as well,” Hoyer said in an email.

“Republicans continue to struggle to find the votes to pass a bill that will kick 24 million Americans off their health coverage, allow discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions, and impose an age tax on older Americans. That's why they are trying to jam it through the House before their Members can hear from the American people this weekend about their opposition to this horrible legislation.”

"If Republicans pursue this partisan path of forcing Americans to pay more for less and destabilizing our county's health care system — without even knowing how much their bill will cost — Republicans should be prepared to pass a one-week Continuing Resolution on their own,” Hoyer said.

As the Hill adds, the threat is significant because GOP leaders will likely need Democratic votes to pass a short-term spending bill in the face of opposition from conservatives historically opposed to government funding bills. Even Trump has chimed in... again.

Ironically, as long as the GOP was split internally, and appeared it did not have enough votes to repeal Obamacare, the government shutdown was a negligible risk. However now that Democrats have realized that the new bill may just pass, they are using the biggest leverage they have: holding one-week continuing resolutions indefinitely, in the process assuring that Republicans may never be able to pass Obamacare repeal, with the government being funded on a week-by-week basis only as long as the GOP agrees not to pass such a vote.

The Democrats’ move comes as bipartisan negotiators in both chambers are getting closer to an agreement on an omnibus spending bill to prevent a government shutdown. If Congress doesn’t act before midnight Friday night, much of the federal government would shut down.

The market, naturally, has noticed, and as Citi observes "the latest bout of headlines has investors on edge - US Republicans and Senate in deep conflict. Speaking to our desks, interest seen - especially for USDJPY - appears to be largely short-term, reactionary. As we type, the market looks for a base. USDJPY now 111.20. US 10y yield at 2.2950%."

How this particular impasse will be resolved remains unclear.

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Caledonian's picture

Do i have to pick a side? Your side is garbage by the way.
Don't think it matters take both pills red and blue.

Kidbuck's picture

Progressives is apt. They are always and everywhere progressing towards primitive tribalism of the kind that has so well served the Ubangis and the Aztec. The ideas of private property and rights of an individual are always crushed by the tribe.

Invinciblehandaxe's picture

the terrible flip flopper trump the swamp should stfu already

j0nx's picture

ROFL at how well Schumer is whipping the GOP and turning them into his bitches. Maybe Chuck should have written the Art of the deal. If I have said it once I have said it 100x. The GOP is doomed until they replace Paul Rino and Ducky McConnell with two real conservatives who are not afraid to fight back with all weapons in their political arsenal. The only thing these two wimps who are currently in charge of the GOP know how to do is concede and lose.

PlayMoney's picture

Dems better off to repeal/replace. They let O'care play out to the end its going to be bigly ugly.

RaymondKHessel's picture

Good. Shut it down.

Repeal ObamaCare too.

Perfect.

Mikeyy's picture

Fake news.  Way to go Tyler - has this become Fox?  Republicans control both houses of Congress.  They can do whatever they want and the Democrats can't stop them.

 

Fake news!

pods's picture

I fail to see a problem with this?

Pretty soon more people will realize that shutting down the government is a GOOD thing.

pods

Everybodys All American's picture

That's called a win win. Sign it and shut the government down. Shutting the government down needs to happen one way or another anyway. This plays right into trumps hands.

HRClinton's picture

His tiny hands will drop the hot potato.

And his spine will turn to squid. 

j0nx's picture

I don't like you but that comment was funny. And true. Still better than you would have been as President. By far.

Muroluvmi's picture

No way the politicians will allow the government to shut down for any length of time.

"Government has been shut down for a while and not much has changed. In fact, things are better. Maybe we don't nee...." WE'RE BACK! WE'RE BACK! YOU CAN REST EASY NOW.

JRobby's picture

Exactly, Shut the IRS down for a quarter and watch GDP explode!!!

lil dirtball's picture

> No way the politicians will allow

What if no one gave a fuck?

lil dirtball's picture

> Pretty soon

I'm hoping that sooner than that, people just stop participating in this joke of a scam we call reality.

Non-participation means this whole shitshow comes to a screaming halt. Then the fat, rich fuckers can talk amongst themselves.

Sick Underbelly's picture

Bartering?  

"Non-participation" -- What do you have in mind?

crossroaddemon's picture

Step 1: quit your fucking job. If your labor feeds the machine you are part of the problem.

FreeNewEnergy's picture

40% of eligible voters didn't vote in the last presidential election.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/eligible-voter-turnout-for-2016-data-hilla...

We're getting closer. Personally, I voted, but more or less don't give a flying fuck as long as nobody from any branch of any government (and there's lots of them) ever calls me, sends me a letter, or treads on my property.

I pay property and sales taxes only because I have to. The rest of them can go call my dead aunt, for all I care.

I supported Trump from the start and after he won, I said all I wanted were three things: Repeal Obamacare, shut down the Dept. of Education, build the wall.

So far, the Donald is Oh fer three. Gets ya a ticket back to the minors in my neck of the woods. A one-way ticket to Palookaville.

agstacks's picture

Let them shut it down and make them own all the fake preceived "pain" associated with it 

TheLastTrump's picture

Repeal Obamacare FULLY effective 1/1/18.

 

Gives 8 months to develop TrumpCare.

 

Slap the bitches in the face.

Soul Glow's picture

Burn it all down.  It's a shitty system anyway.

Raffie's picture

The sooner they crash it, the sooner it gets fixed.

BUT will the new system be better? Or even more favored to the powers that be to screw over the working man?

BennyBoy's picture

 

Stop payment on all congressional checks.

Rescind their healthcare.

QQQBall's picture

everyone totally overlooking the fact we are broke.

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

expect a stockman update in the next few days to remind us...

29.5 hours's picture

<<Democrats Threaten To Shut Down Government>>

You mean for the first time in my life, I will be supporting a Democratic initiative?!

Where have I gone wrong?

 

aloha_snakbar's picture

Is it pitchfork time yet? I swear if I hear one of these stories one more time, I will start screaming and not be able to stop...

new game's picture

one way ticket tyme

(be back when you childern sort this out)

WayPastCaring's picture

I know most Republicans have no balls, but it would be nice to see them undergo grafts and realize the Demonrats will play this fucking card over anything they don't like.

Demonrats win - they set the agenda - we lose.

Republicans win - the Demonrats set the agenda - we lose.

Heads I win, tails you lose.

 

 

HRClinton's picture

You're barking up the wrong tree.

Both teams play for the same owners. It is the elite owners who will further their agenda through one team or another.

Have a cup of reality, you dreamers and romantics.

Caledonian's picture

So why have you picked a side? Am i missing something?
HRClinton much?

syzygysus's picture

Great, give all all the 'Representatives' and 'Senators' bus fare and send their asses home.  Gov is shut down.

Chupacabra-322's picture

GO FOR IT!

Shut down the whole Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.

It's your last chance to Peacefully walk away.

Not A Doug's picture

Let's hope it's a promise, not just a threat. 

hotrod's picture

Why does Trump feel like a hostage here??????  DEMOCRATS WANT A SHUT DOWN, give it to them with NO PAY.  Most voters are fine with that.  Federal Government provides the highest per capita Pay and Benefits for their employees in the nation. They are never layed off, cant even have a hiring freeze more than 3 months.  No one feels bad for them.  SHUT IT DOWN.

For Trump to concede makes him Flipper in Chief.

orangegeek's picture

Do what Reagan did - let the drug cartels into California and then confiscate cash.

 

Don't need a budget at all then.

 

Can build the wall and expand the military and cut taxes all at the same time.

decentralisedscrutinizer's picture

 

Almost all the world’s economic and political problems revolve around the hegemony here in America of the global corporate cartel, which is only headquartered in the US because this is where their military arm resides. The only way to regain our (we People) sovereignty as a republic is to strictly curtail the priveledges of any corporation doing business here. The government must be reconfigured to represent the Middle Class if we are ever to restore sanity, much less prosperity. There will be no peace and prosperity in America until we, the good folk, drain the "swamp" created by the US Constitution. The "swamp" can not be drained at this point because the Constitution  does not contain a “drain plug". This is the kind of "plug" it needs. And it needs to be pulled ASAP:

 

 

 

28th Amendment

 

Corporations are not persons in any sense of the word and shall be granted only those rights and privileges that Congress deems necessary for the well-being of the People. Congress shall provide legislation defining the terms and conditions of corporate charters according to their purpose; which shall include, but are not limited to:

 

1, prohibitions against any corporation;

 

a, owning another corporation,

 

b, becoming economically indispensable or monopolistic, or

 

c, otherwise distorting the general economy;

 

2, prohibitions against any form of interference in the affairs of;

 

a, government,

 

b, education, or

 

c, news media, and

 

3, provisions for;

 

a, the auditing of standardized, current, and transparent account books, and

 

b, the establishment of a state and municipal-owned banking system

 

c, civil and criminal penalties to be suffered by corporate executives for violation of the terms of a corporate charter.

 

 

 

The biggest hurdle to convening an Article 5 convention will be to silence the 24/7 corporate media propaganda machine which will guarantee that a constitutional convention is the sure path to anarchy and chaos. There are so many issues that need addressing that it will be extremely difficult to focus on just one issue: draining the swamp; first and foremost. Just that one thing: get the idea of incorporating business enterprises (or political movements) out of our collective thought process. Incorporation is a subtle, inconspicuous little glitch in our collective philosophical evolution and, as appealing as it is to join groups and let them do your thinking, such groups immediately assume identities of their own and become eternal super-groups with their own agenda and more money than the sum of all members’ combined. Corporations can’t even be controlled by their own executives; they’re “fictitious persons”, legally, morally, and tangibly. Yes, corporations are comprised of good, church-going, honest, people, while the corporations they belong to, work for, administer, or own, go about the planet (and at home) committing genocide. Or worse. You can spend a lifetime fighting legal injustice, global warming, illegal immigration, racial disparity, Democrats, Republicans, Joos, globalization, and bathroom assignments, but nothing is going to change so long as corporate media has your brain in a bottle. If nothing else or until a better organizational plan comes along; try whispering in your neighbor’s ear: “Article 5 Amendment 28. Article 5 Amendment 28. Article 5 Amendment 28” until we all understand what’s necessary and act in unison when opportunity presents….

    

fast and furious's picture

I respectfully disagree.  The biggest hurdle is the dependence state assemblies and senates have on Federal funding.  Several states have mustered votes calling for a Convention of States,  only to be halted by an ego maniac in leadership who is beholding to D.C..  Repeal the 17th amendment, and this goes ahead without issue.  At least include the repeal IN the Article V Convention of States.

decentralisedscrutinizer's picture

 

There are several ludicrously weak 28th amendment proposals currently circulating which, at best, will provide corporate lawyers with unending ambiguities to jawbone for many, many $$$ in fees; and, at worst, would provide positive constitutional affirmation of corporate-citizen rights ( not exactly human citizens’ rights – but special rights that a battalion of legal weasels could turn into an implication of greater/superior rights) over human-citizen rights. The Beast is obviously eager to enact a watered-down anti-Citizens United amendment to prevent anything meaningful/significant from being passed. You’ll know which amendments are corporate-sponsored by the language they use and how they all try to make it look like an election reform bill. We’re in far more trouble than campaign finance reform will cure. Watch for ambiguity. Forget what the heading says: read what amendment says because when it’s all said and done – the amendment *says* what it *says*. Moments like this don’t come along very often.

 

  

decentralisedscrutinizer's picture

 

You’re probably right. But what are the options? Accept our fate and bend over?

 

 

 

It’s long been my theory that the worldwide community of incorporated businesses we alternately refer to as “Beast”, “Elite”, “MIC”, “Wall Street”, “Deep State”, or “The West” has been continuously steamrolls over sovereign nations, whole generations of princes and peasants, plus any political movements brought forth to challenge it for the past 200 years because it doesn’t proclaim itself: “I/WE are your masters! You will obey anybody wearing this badge, uniform, crest, banner, logo, secret handshake, etc” Seriously, do we know who they are or how they get on that list. No, they don’t know who they are. It’s just an anonymous “they” with an unwritten code. It’s a system. And an absurdly stupid system that doesn’t even know when it’s killing itself. I believe the only way to change such a system is to take control of the culture that supports it by simply talking to each other without waving any banners, badges, logos, or crests and not organizing any such entity as would want such banners, logos, or crests. The “system” we know is totally blind to anything that it can’t identify by flag, banner, logo or badge. That’s why the “insiders” didn’t see Trump coming, didn’t foresee Brexit, and are only slowly coming to terms with Frexit. I don’t think “we-the-peeps” should organize or DO anything; just knowing how it works is enough to end it. We have a much better chance of laughing it off than confronting it. Just as corporate philosophy has ratcheted its way into cultural dominance over time it can be worn down (eroded) by millions of disrespectful little jokes and insults over time. We know what’s going on, just pass it on. Truth has a way of floating to the top no matter how turbulent the teacup. No serious adult is going to listen to network news entertainment and take what they say as truth anymore. That’s already happening. Our collective world view has already changed. I believe we’ll eventually gain the confidence to hold another Constitutional Convention. Don’t do it now. Just talk it up! How can we improve the wording of what I have so far? Eliminate any ambiguity. That’s what I’m doing here now. I put a lot of thought into my 28th amendment; all I ask is for ya’ll to think about before you tell me how impossible it is. It’s getting possibler and possibler every day. Keep posting the Federalist Papers etc. Educate each other. That’s how our Founders did it. Patience.

By all means; write a repeal too. That's you jour job.

wmbz's picture

The repubs will cave as they always do, pure pussies. Ryan will pull down his pants and bend over. I think he likes that though.

Same old theater, same old shit, nothing new.

astartes09's picture

You guys used to be contrarian, now you just parrot Fox News headlines.  The Democrats cant shut down anything and they certainly arent going to vote for any repeal of Obamacare because they are jerrymandered into safe districts that dont want those things.

Philo Beddoe's picture

God Dammit. I wanna take my kid to Yellowstone this summer and you fuckers are going to deprive my child of seeing a giant water spout surrounded by fat asses taking selfies.

Won't anybody think of the Children!