Democrats Take Government Hostage: Threaten To Shut It Down If GOP Repeals Obamacare

Tyler Durden's picture

Once again Republicans have managed to box themselves in.

Just as the GOP has reportedly found enough votes among conservative Republicans to pass the latest iteration of the proposed Healthcare bill, with Freedom Caucus Mark Meadows saying "republicans will have the votes to pass" Obamacare repeal, Democrats realized that they once again have the leverage to bring this whole process to a grinding halt halt. And they are using it.

As The Hill reports, House Democrats will oppose any short-term spending bill - which is what McConnell was hoping on passing to buy one week of time - if Republican leaders attempt to expedite an ObamaCare repeal bill this week, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) warned Thursday. In other words, Democrats are now holding the government hostage indefinitely as long as Republicans - who now have the votes to pass new healthcare legislation - threaten to repeal Obamacare.

Hoyer, the Democratic whip, spoke with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif) Thursday morning to warn him of the Democrats' position. "If Republicans announce their intention to bring their harmful TrumpCare bill to the House Floor tomorrow or Saturday, I will oppose a one-week Continuing Resolution and will advise House Democrats to oppose it as well,” Hoyer said in an email.

“Republicans continue to struggle to find the votes to pass a bill that will kick 24 million Americans off their health coverage, allow discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions, and impose an age tax on older Americans. That's why they are trying to jam it through the House before their Members can hear from the American people this weekend about their opposition to this horrible legislation.”

"If Republicans pursue this partisan path of forcing Americans to pay more for less and destabilizing our county's health care system — without even knowing how much their bill will cost — Republicans should be prepared to pass a one-week Continuing Resolution on their own,” Hoyer said.

As the Hill adds, the threat is significant because GOP leaders will likely need Democratic votes to pass a short-term spending bill in the face of opposition from conservatives historically opposed to government funding bills. Even Trump has chimed in... again.

Ironically, as long as the GOP was split internally, and appeared it did not have enough votes to repeal Obamacare, the government shutdown was a negligible risk. However now that Democrats have realized that the new bill may just pass, they are using the biggest leverage they have: holding one-week continuing resolutions indefinitely, in the process assuring that Republicans may never be able to pass Obamacare repeal, with the government being funded on a week-by-week basis only as long as the GOP agrees not to pass such a vote.

The Democrats’ move comes as bipartisan negotiators in both chambers are getting closer to an agreement on an omnibus spending bill to prevent a government shutdown. If Congress doesn’t act before midnight Friday night, much of the federal government would shut down.

The market, naturally, has noticed, and as Citi observes "the latest bout of headlines has investors on edge - US Republicans and Senate in deep conflict. Speaking to our desks, interest seen - especially for USDJPY - appears to be largely short-term, reactionary. As we type, the market looks for a base. USDJPY now 111.20. US 10y yield at 2.2950%."

How this particular impasse will be resolved remains unclear.

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Gunga's picture

 A lot of people voted for Trump with the hope that he would shut the Feral government down

arby63's picture

Damn straight. Shut it down and keep it shut. Fire 75% of the employees and straighten this mess out. 

oromae's picture

Wait them out, then pass it.

Cordeezy's picture

Shut the government down then maybe some actual work will get done.  The politicians will not shut the government down because they know we will see how useless they are once they shut it down.

 

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DirtySanchez's picture

Trump needs to face this sooner rather than later.

The establishment is comprised with mutts both republitard and demotard.

The establishment simply bides its time making threats and scaring people.

Trump needs to repeal, plain and simply.

Once repealed, figure out best steps for states to take care of their indigent and very ill.

Everybody else needs to get their own insurance and the federal government should stay the fuck out.

 

Trump needs to:

-Grow some balls

-Build the wall.

-Kick the jew son in law and the horrible daughter the fuck out of DC.

-Drain the swamp.

govtsucks's picture

Love these comments by the libtards:

“Republicans continue to struggle to find the votes to pass a bill that will kick 24 million Americans off their health coverage, allow discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions, and impose an age tax on older Americans."

What about the tens of millions that Obama kicked off their private health plans after telling everyone that "if you like your insurance, you can keep it."?

And why shouldn't old people and people with pre-existing conditions pay more? They're using it more. That's how insurance works. You're high risk, you pay more. If you want to deal with pre-existing conditions, then implement health status insurance, which basically allows you to buy insurance toward buying health insurance.

"If Republicans pursue this partisan path of forcing Americans to pay more for less and destabilizing our county's health care system ...".

ObummerCare is not destabilizing??? Premiums skyrocketing in every state, half the insurers withdrawing from the exchanges because they're losing billions. Yeah, seems really stable to me.

One of these days, when the system is all but destroyed by this socialist bullshit, someone will actually get the idea to try a free market approach. Interstate or even international competition. Prices advertised like in every other business in this country. Because, after all, who cares about prices when 90% of the bill is paid by third parties? Removing many of the mandated coverages at the state level that drive up prices.

Finally, people getting off their asses and moving around. Eating, drinking, and smoking less. You can't dump all of the blame for this crisis on the govt morons.

 

rejected's picture

"And why shouldn't old people and people with pre-existing conditions pay more?"

Maybe because they have been paying for 50 years without coverage. And those 24 million are mainly Medicaid which is already robbing Medicare. Medicaid is what covers all the illegals and most with pre-existing conditions.

When I grew up there were few with insurance. Medical prices were very reasonable. Doctors and staff really tried to help.

Then came Nixon's HMO's.  Now corporations jumped into the medical field. A corporation, if you remember, is an entity that seeks to maximize profits and minimize costs.

Medical prices started going up. As a result more people took on insurance. Then governments started mandating free this and free that ( ie, breast mammograms, prostrate checks and a myriad of others) prices continued up. As usual the 'People' screamed for government to do something!

Well it did and here we are with people wanting government out of it but it's too late. Government rarely ever stops interfering especially when it will bring much money to their sweetheart corporations and payoffs to the corporate representatives in con-gress. (Bet you thought they represented you eh?).

This country has decided to go down the fascism, socialism road. Once on that road there are no exits. As can be seen from the last election, elections are fruitless. As can be seen at airports and on the aircraft Americans will do as their told even allowing their small children to be abused. As can be seen by Obama Care Americans will pay what their told, and to any private corporation whatever amount that's demanded.  As can be seen Federal, State and local governments will spend your appropriated money on millions of illegals no matter what the cost.

America and Americans are FUBAR as they're too busy quibbling among themselves and divvying up loot robbed from the cattle....... us. 

govtsucks's picture

The insurance problem started when the federal government started giving tax incentives to corporations to use insurance premium payments as part of compensation. Up until then, people purchased their own insurance, and it was referred to as catastrophic care. Its only purpose was to prevent you from going broke if you were hit with a big medical bill. Just as you have homeowners' insurance to protect you against some major disaster, not a broken window. It was assumed that all non-catastrophic expenses would be paid out-of-pocket, and as you said, the prices were reasonable. But once you get third parties involved, and especially govt, the trend is always to provide more and more of the particular resource because the costs become hidden. And there is also a trend toward overuse of the resource, which reduces supply and drives up costs. That's why college costs have skyrocketed. As govt pours more money into the system via loans, grants, etc., the colleges raise tuition because the students have access to more funds. It's a vicious cycle that inevitably occurs when govt meddles in the free market.

Sam Spayed's picture

Better add the wall funding back in. Let the leftist filth shut the government down. See what happens to them.

Silvertwins's picture

D's are R's and R's are D's...the psychological trauma based mind control continues.  We will never be so lucky that the criminals shut down their own empire!

One of We's picture

D vs R?  I reject the premise.  Same team.

Pigeon's picture

Build the wall. Let Obamacare implode. DO NOT APOLOGIZE and DO NOT TAKE ANY PRISONERS.

And send that prick Ryan to the little corner of hell reserved for Pelosi, Waters, et.al.

frontierland's picture

At this point, the Left will threaten to shut down (the superficial part) of the government becasue of muh Slavery... 

Should've thrown the Wall funding in there anyway. Take the money from DACA and Immigrant Resettlement Programs.  And stop throwing expensive bombs at our 'former merc forces.'

Megaton Jim's picture

Shut it down and show how useless most of the people who work in the government are. The Snivel Service needs to be cut by at least 1/3, especially the completely worthless Affirmative Action hires!

VanWinkle's picture

Let them shut it down.  "Government" doesn't work anyhow.

The drama will backfire.  These fools don't realize that the electrorate is increasingly not buying in to the bullshirt and that people are increasingly sick of paying taxes to a debt-bloated entity that doesn't not have their best interests at heart.

F-em all.

St. Alphonzo's picture

Go for it DJT! You bought the ticket now take the ride and if that means running over some useless Democraps on the way, all the better. ACA is a DISASTER, as is everything the brown clown Obozo did. Let all this shit die of natural causes. Fuck 'em and dont be swayed by the kids in th WH. They need to grow up and grow  a pair

Abaco's picture

Yeah but don't do this repeal lite.  THe "new"plan is just another turd.

rejected's picture

Shut down National Parks.... What a Laugh!  Then pay overtime to prevent people from entering.

This shit isn't some surprise,,, Stockman warned months ago.

The man has went full retard.

Do us a favor,,, Shut the whole shebang down...

hotrod's picture

AVERTING A DISASTEROUS GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN, A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT HAS JUST BEEN REACHED AT MIDNIGHT FRIDAY. Puerto RiCON will be bailed out,  THE GREAT Wall later in the year and ACA will be reconditioned.   Thank God we are saved unless KIM nukes us.

az_patriot's picture

The spin on this in the media, and this article included, is appalling.  This isn't really the Republicans' fault.  Or President Trump's fault.  The fault for this lies squarely on the shoulders of the slimy Democrats -- who would throw their grandmothers off a cliff and declare the whole universe except themselves as "racist haters" if they thought they could pull the wool over everyone's eyes and benefit from it politically.

Weirdly's picture

Wow the Democrats have learned win/win negociations.  Federal government shutdown and Obamacare repeal.  Perfect. 

quax's picture

"Democrats Take Government Hostage: Threaten To Shut It Down If GOP Repeals Obamacare"

lol - because the Democrats control Congress.

The Tylors must really think they write stories for the dumbest of the dumb.

mary mary's picture

Repeal Obamacare, Medicare, and Medicaid!

JLee2027's picture

I agree. It all needs to go, so let it crash and burn in hellfire.

AKKadian's picture

BS! The Republicans did not box themselves in, their apart of the FN scam. Total Bullshit in DC.!!!

ToSoft4Truth's picture

The Ghost 'O Carter still haunts the Republicans. 

barysenter's picture

Carter was always Rockefeller's little CFR bitch. List the CFR stooges occupying Your Government.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKX_yompZuA

Pasadena Phil's picture

Shut down everything!!!! National parks, payroll office, EVERYTHING!!!!! Then fold your arms and wait. Let's see how long it takes for the Dems to scream themselves into madness and perilous fatigue. Stop acting like shutting down the government is a bad thing! The voters already support shutting it down. What they DON'T support is the endless kabuki where the limp-wristed Republicans are helpless even when they are the only team on the field!

So long as the Republicans keep demurring to the Democrats as to what the narrative will be, American "voters have no chance. It really is up to Trump to lead on this. It would help if he treated "conservatives" (whatever that means anymore) as human beings, the ones who led the groundswell that delivered him to the WH.

Lester Burnham's picture

Looks like the Republicans got their wish and won't have to man up and do what they agreed to do after all.  Reminds me of Dr. Suess "I can lick 30 tigers today".  If there was only one Democrat in all of congress the Republicans would still find a way not to deliver on their promises.  This illustrates why Republicans are worse than Democrats (hard to believe but stay with me a moment longer).  Democrats are fools but they are determined to have their way and they never pass on a chance to advance their agenda of making us all equally poor and eradicating envy once and for all.  Republicans on the other hand have a pretty good idea of what's right but not enough backbone to see it through.  Cowardice is the defining characteristic of the GOP.  I think it explains a lot too about why Republicans are always first in line to worship the "heros" in law enforcement.  They like the idea of uniformed gangs who use brute force against unarmed people who haven't harmed anyone else.  They need the thrill of seeing violence done in their name the same way these fat basement dwelling millennial men need porn.  When you aren't a man you will pay homage to anyone who can make you feel like one.  George Carlin had it right, the politicians are just a reflection of the people who put them there.   What we have in congress is a party of fools battleing it out with a party of cowards. 

Non-Corporate Entity's picture

They've evolved from the "sit-in" and name calling. There's only one way to deal with a tantrum of this magnitude...Shut.It.DOWN!!!

hutnela's picture

No there is an other way besides that one... but I can't legally say what it is... you will have to use your imagination... 

rosiescenario's picture

Since my experience of government is that it takes from me and provides nothing in return, I can only hope and pray that a shutdown lasts for a very long time.

One of We's picture

I paid $30k in FICA tax last year.  I've spent some time considering and I don't see that I've received anything but injury for that $30k.  If I had a contract with anyone else and had paid them anything and only received injury I'd have my jew filing suit.....

Aubiekong's picture

The Republicans have one choice repeal obamacare and let the chips fall where they may or become the democrats play toy....

elstrom's picture

Haven’t Trump repealed his very first executive order, Federal hiring freeze?

Aubiekong's picture

Just say EBT will stop if government shuts down so call your democrat elected official moocher provider to let them know how this makes you feel....

az_patriot's picture

A government "shutdown" is actually a bit of fake news.  The government never really shuts down -- "essential" services continue.  What the Democrats will try to do is ensure that certain things are shut down to embarrass the Republicans -- something the R's should watch out for.  CLOSE IT DOWN!!!!!!!!  Screw the slimy Democrats and the games they play.  If the Republicans cave to this nonsense many of us will be seriously pissed.

buffalolips's picture

Pass the repeal. Let the Democrats shut down the government, not that we wouldn't applaud. If there is to be blame for a shutdown, let it fall on the Democrats. Pass the repeal and do it now.

Aubiekong's picture

Republicans prefer to be in the minority so they can say if only they had the votes they could make things better...  They are all nut-less...

One of We's picture

Globetrotters vs. Generals

Team_Huli's picture

Shut 'er down!!  No better way to cut expenses.  When the politicians no longer receive their direct deposit, they will cave.

RedDwarf's picture

Good, shut down.  The longer the better.

Harry Paranockus's picture

Doesn't the president get to decide what services would be shut down if there is no continuing resolution? Shut down shit that hurts the democrat base.

Team_Huli's picture

Yes...  remember O-hole closed down the White House tours and the ability to visit memorials?  The guy has always been a cock sucker.

Deep Snorkeler's picture

For every political mastermind,

there are 10,000 cretins: the

cruel algebra of intelligence applied

across the nation.  Washington's final

tax reform and medical insurance programs

will not play out in your favor.

 

 

Rich Monk's picture

Shut it down then. Shut Washington down. What Washington is, is 435 criminal, bribe taking Congressmen and another 100 bribe taking Senators. End the Federal government altogether. All it does is "steal" the wealth of working people daily. The Federal government, (central planning) the Fed. (Central banking by the Zionist Jewish organized crime syndicate) represent communism cloaked in fake patriotism.

PrometeyBezkrilov's picture

So finally we see the Obamacare for what it is. It has nothing to do with medical care or medical insurance. It is a hidden urgent tax created to fund the government operation, cause nothing else does. Manufacturing is outsourced oversees, banks probably pay no taxes since they run the government, working class is being reduced on a regular basis, expenses are going up due to enormous debt. And another thing. All these so called “approved” participating insurance companies are giving up on Obamacare. Why? They supposed to get triple the amount of what people used to pay for medical insurance. Why are they giving up on Obamacare? Obviously, a lion share of collected money supposed to refill government coffers, and only a small portion is left to insurance companies to cover insurance events. But public gets seeker and seeker and medical expenses are going up. This is why those insurance companies are getting out of this scheme.

Meatnormous's picture

They'll shut down the government if we repleal Obamacare? I'm confused... aren't these BOTH things that conservatives desire? Don't tell them this little secret, but Democrats really suck at negotiating...

highwaytoserfdom's picture
Man skips work for 6 years; no one notices Government down no one notices..Without Pay Please

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/02/14/man-skips-work-for-...