NYT's 'Impossible To Verify' North Korea Nuke Claim Spreads Unchecked By Media

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Authored by Adam Johnson via FAIR.org,

Buoyed by a total of 18 speculative verb forms - five “mays,” eight “woulds” and five “coulds” - New York Times reporters David E. Sanger and William J. Broad (4/24/17) painted a dire picture of a Trump administration forced to react to the growing and impending doom of North Korea nuclear weapons.

“As North Korea Speeds Its Nuclear Program, US Fears Time Will Run Out” opens by breathlessly establishing the stakes and the limited time for the US to “deal with” the North Korean nuclear “crisis”:

Behind the Trump administration’s sudden urgency in dealing with the North Korean nuclear crisis lies a stark calculus: A growing body of expert studies and classified intelligence reports that conclude the country is capable of producing a nuclear bomb every six or seven weeks.


That acceleration in pace—impossible to verify until experts get beyond the limited access to North Korean facilities that ended years ago—explains why President Trump and his aides fear they are running out of time.

The front-page summary was even more harrowing, with the editors asserting there’s “dwindling time” for “US action” to stop North Korea from assembling hundreds of nukes:

NYT: Dwindling Time for US Action as North Korea Hoards Bombs

From the beginning, the Times frames any potential bombing by Trump as the product of a “stark calculus” coldly and objectively arrived at by a “growing body of expert[s].” The idea that elements within the US intelligence community may actually desire a war—or at least limited airstrikes—and thus may have an interest in presenting conflict as inevitable, is never addressed, much less accounted for.

The most spectacular claim—that North Korea is, at present, “capable of producing a nuclear bomb every six or seven weeks”—is backed up entirely by an anonymous blob of “expert studies and classified intelligence reports.” To add another red flag, Sanger and Broad qualify it in the very next sentence as a figure that is “impossible to verify.” Which is another way of saying it’s an unverified claim.

When asked on Twitter if he could say who, specifically, in the US government is providing this figure, Broad did not immediately respond.

Other key claims are either not attributed or attributed to anonymous “officials” (emphasis added):

Unless something changes, North Korea’s arsenal may well hit 50 weapons by the end of Mr. Trump’s term, about half the size of Pakistan’s. American officials say the North already knows how to shrink those weapons so they can fit atop one of its short- to medium-range missiles — putting South Korea and Japan, and the thousands of American troops deployed in those two nations, within range.

To offer a bit of outside perspective, Sanger and Broad interview Siegfried S. Hecker, a Stanford professor who directed the Los Alamos weapons laboratory in New Mexico in the late ’80s and early ’90s. The only time he speaks directly to the threat, he does so in the context of a nuclear accident:

At any moment, Dr. Hecker said on a call to reporters organized by the Union of Concerned Scientists, a live weapon could turn into an accidental nuclear detonation or some other catastrophe.

“I happen to believe,” he said, “the crisis is here now.”

Hecker and other semi-neutral observers (Hecker worked for the Department of Defense for several years) are understandably worried about more nuclear weapons in the aggregate, especially in the hands of a relatively poor country with a long history of botched missile attempts. But who, exactly, is making the article’s most alarmist predictions? It’s unclear.

Naturally, the specter of North Korea creating an assembly line of nuclear weapons—by far the sexiest part of the story—was the lead in subsequent write-ups. Within hours, this meme spread to a half-dozen other outlets:

“North Korea’s Growing Nuclear Threat, in One Statistic”

Here is the most frightening thing you’ll read all day: Growing numbers of US intelligence officials believe North Korea can produce a new nuclear bomb every six or seven weeks.

Vox (4/25/17)

“North Korea Will ‘Cross The Point of No Return’ With Sixth Nuclear Test”

Defense experts estimate that the North is capable of producing a nuclear bomb every six or seven weeks, reports the New York Times.

Daily Caller, 4/25/17)

“North Korea Could Produce a Nuclear Weapon Every Six Weeks, Experts Are Warning”

Yahoo News (4/25/17)

“Residents of China Fear Radiation From North Korea Nuclear Tests”

Experts say the country is capable of producing a nuclear bomb every six or seven weeks, the New York Times reported Monday.

UPI (4/25/17)

“China Warns North Korea Will ‘Cross the Point of No Return’ if It Carries out a Sixth Nuclear Test, as Secretive Country Stages Its ‘Largest Ever Firing Drill'”

…amid fears the secretive state can create a nuke every six weeks.

Daily Mail (4/25/17)

“North Korea Is Capable of Producing a Nuclear Bomb Every Six or Seven Weeks”

News.com.au (4/26/17)

Even New York Times columnist Nick Kristof jumped on the meme, magically turning “capable of producing” into “will soon be churning out”:

But from whence did this meme come? Who, exactly, made this claim? Is there any dissent within the community of “experts” on this prediction? Is there an official document somewhere with people’s names on it who can later be held accountable if it turns out to be bogus?

Once again, the essential antecedents of war are being established based on anonymous “experts” and “officials,” and hardly anyone notices, much less pushes back.

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The_Juggernaut's picture

Can we just attack them and get it over with?

Ex-Oligarch's picture

Have at it.
Erm ... wait, by "them" you mean the assholes at the New York Times, right?

Troll Magnet's picture

That's because these Jews (Judy Miller, Sanger, Broad, NYT) love to push for wars everywhere except Israhell. I say we leave Israel to fend for themselves and see what happens. Don't do shit even if they get nuked. But I'm sure President Kushner wouldn't stand for that.

macholatte's picture


NYT: Lying about telling the truth

NoDecaf's picture

I'll say it agian - anyone who publicly advocates war should be forced to fight that war regardless of age, disabilities, sex identity or public office held. Anyone and everyone who wants war should be immediately conscripted and sent to a combat zone.


OpTwoMistic's picture

"The only thing we have to fear is the US itself"

Troll Magnet's picture

and Zionists disguised as Anglos in order to infiltrate and subvert. Been going on for centuries.

Winston Churchill's picture

That movie is still going on, showing all day and night in Mosul right now.

baghead's picture

Does Trump get his Intel on North Korea from the New York Times?

frank further's picture

No, Fox News - you forget he doesn't read.

GatorMcClusky's picture

I'll meet you in the middle and ask if we can just stop using the word "meme"? It makes the writer sound like he / she graduated from the Facebook school of journalism.

P.S. Little kim won't go down without a deadman switch being triggered and most of Seoul will be wiped out so cheering for an attack......maybe not such a great idea.

divingengineer's picture

Everyone likes to spin that yarn, but they will be getting pummeled by South Korea, the US, Japan and maybe even China.
It won't be a turkey shoot for NKor, they would of course try to mount an attack but I think they would be overwhelmed on every front. Kim's #1 concern is his safety and power, not inflicting damage on others, this whole Mexican Standoff is based on him retaining power.
Would they get some hits in? Most assuredly.
Should you let a pack of rabid wild chihuahuas terrorize your neighborhood unchallenged just because they don't seem afraid to bite? Assuredly not.

ClassicCommodity's picture

I'm begging for ANY Black Swan event. Begging for it. Don't care if billions are vaporised, give me my fucking black swan dammit!!

quadraspleen's picture

"Can we just attack them and get it over with?"

Be my guest. You'll be doing some of the attacking, right, or you're just sending other people's kids?

divingengineer's picture

Fuck that, we got like what....100 million useless fucks that can't even figure out how to feed themselves? What do you think an underclass is for?
They are bred for cannon fodder.

Anteater's picture

Then the Satanic Luciferians win. Then the Pentagon gets another 13% budget creep, every year since the 911 Event.

Defense.gov/news/contracts   One $BILLION A DAY of our last life savings, winging away to the Satanic Luciferians.

They've been claing DPRK 'has the bmob' for FORTY YEARS since I've been an adult. Two generations of grifters.

"Behind the Trump administration’s sudden urgency in dealing with the South Korean cell phone crisis lies a stark calculus: A growing body of expert studies and classified intelligence reports that conclude South Korea is capable of producing a new superior model of cell phone every six or seven weeks."

Apple has $Ts parked offshore to grift with, and the Xi-Zogs are afraid their rose gold i-Phones won't stand up to competition.

divingengineer's picture

I used to worry like you, then I learned to relax and love the Empire.
Long live the Empire!
Just make sure you are behind the grapeshot, not in front. And when there are food riot stampedes, go over, not under.
Trust me, you'll be fine.

silverer's picture

I've heard they have nukes buried under every major western city, and even Hollywood. Has to be true, because Kim is so confident. Ask any Ohio state graduate with a psychology degree.

The_Juggernaut's picture

Interesting. Do they need periodic maintenance or can you just leave them sitting indefinitely?

silverer's picture

They have a maintenance engineer sitting next to them in little chairs, with a breathing tube going up to the surface. The tubes attach to a small floating duck bathroom toy to keep the water out. Honest. Ask any NY Times reporter.

max2205's picture

We should send in  a nuc every 5 days till they stop..... I like 

JLee2027's picture

So look for the bubbles. Got it.

Anteater's picture

The Russian ambassador's reference to 'mole' nukes offshore every US city was a code-talk reference to Israel's use of a mole nuke offshore of Fukushima, after Japan offered to sell uranium to Iran. Israel was the Fukushima security contractor, we are told, and like Silverstein, they didn't show up to work that day.

Reactor 4 was being serviced and the dome unbolted, yet it blew up too? Japan reported a minor 'earthquake', then USGS pre-empted the news with a claim of 9.0, when we saw with our own lying eyes all those buildings being flooded were still perfectly intact? A 9.0 would have leveled them before the wave even arrived.

Think what a powerful extortion tool Israel's new nuclear submarines are, ...and their willingness to use their nukes as moles.



divingengineer's picture

Yes, nukes under the ocean to cause us tsunamis too.
Devious little bastards.

DuneCreature's picture

Meanwhile the news that can be verified is ignored by NYT and the rest of the MSM.

Such as:

Let's train terrorists and send them money. ......... That sounds like a great idea to me. .... How about you? .. Are you down with that plan?

Your government seems to think so.

Is Trump draining the swamp by pumping it all the way to Indiana?

Your government WANTS you to know about this. ... Yes, WANTS you to know about this. ... They want you to feel helpless in the face of this shit.

I hate to say this but; It is my opinion that George Webb is an agent of the CIA (wittingly or unwittingly) and has been tasked with exposing how fucked up and utterly pervasive the corruption and rank evil has become in the country. .......... He knows too much. Nothing will be done with all of his research. All of his investigative leads will be thrown out of the window. .. Ignored. ... Brushed aside. ......... There will be no DoJ investigation on any of this. .. None. .. Total silence. .............

In your face corruption and George is the tour guide.

Why? .... I think the sickos at the CIA want those paying attention to know they have you by the short hairs. ... Secondly, I think they want an 'Outrage Head Count'. ...... And lastly, because a lot of spooks just simply get off on making people miserable. ... A power thing.

Day 188.1 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEEjSF6-zVM
Day 188.2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBsh6_gJrPA
Day 188.3 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfFS8BI3q6k
(A side trip to the Slippery Jim Comey Museum of Excellent Law Enforcement - Not )
Day 188.4 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YSjJ0PL-sk
(J. Igor Hoover in drag and the Paki connection)
Day 188.5 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxRdbxEazds

Day 188.6 = Summary (The CIA wants you to know -You're Fucked)

One last quote from George Webb sort of sums up the situation,
"Love the Hell's Angels, but you guys really should stop killing people for initiation."

WTF? ... Ok, I'll go along with that, George.

I'm not saying George is a bad dude. ... He IS pouring on the sunshine for us generously.

Live Hard, I Don't Think We Are Going To Get Any Help From The 'Authorities' To Deal With The Bad Guys Wandering Around The USoA Today Since The CIAer Types Appear To Be Funding Near On All Of The Evil Mayhem Afoot, Die Free

~ DC v5.0

montag's picture

I completely agree. The one thing he does while admitting that he is a Zionist and a proud one at that, the guy's work is truly spectacular in defining connections and so-called rat lines, but what I don't understand is that he carefully avoids any mention of Mossad, or frankly, the fact that the Awan brothers are in fact Mossad, regardless of their nationality.  The entire set up he describes is exactly how to traffic all sorts of things including blackmail.

DuneCreature's picture

Right, right, sometimes I forget about Mossad (Funny, they don't seem to forget much about me.)

As far as I'm concerned the present day CIA and Mossad are one and the same really.

Let me throw in the OPERATION TALPIOT advertising link for good measure.


They need USSA Geo Sat locating and some NSA co-op but otherwise they are pretty self contained with or without the CIA I suppose. ... Having all of US dot gov under the blackpedomail thumb doesn't hurt their cause either.

Live Hard, Face It, We're Owned But Not Quite Disarmed,...Yet. That's Coming, Die Free

~ DC v5.0

Mr 9x19's picture

@ The_Juggernaut :

 fuck you retard leftist,

north corea makes tests for decades, why U.S turns like fucks when you have 100 days bad economic data.

leave them alone, u.s army is the plague of the planet.


you fucked with moudjahidin in the 80 for russia, 35 years later you have created isis and world islam terror with your fucking dollar preventing anyone to depeg from your fiat toilet paper money. can't you put hands in your ass and stop interfere with the rest of the planet and just design iphone on your side and stay calm ??

i can't take anymore american dictatorship over the globe, one day some will really nuke you and you will deserve it.


no offence to americans, but jeez fuck, wake up and stop this madness !!!!

DuneCreature's picture

No kidding, I wouldn't give up my nukes without a fight either.

Every time we disarm a country the next thing that happens is the leader is ass raped on TV or hung by the neck until his body double croaks.

Trump is Killary without the cackle.

Live Hard, Kim Is Just Saving The Last Nuke For Himself And I Don't Blame Him, Die Free

~ DC v5.0

Troll Magnet's picture

americans are awake. we just don't want to stop this madness because we're mostly retards dependent on this malicious government.

Winston Churchill's picture

Don't confuse your retards with your imbeciles.

The US has become a suicidal death cult, somebody will put it out of its misery.Won't be little kim though.

Tick tock.

Arnold's picture

Establishing leadership voids is our business.

francis scott falseflag's picture


Major differences between Saddam/Iraq and Kim/Norko.


Iraq is located in the most oil rich area of the planet and the deep state desired to

destabilize all the countries that were not under their thumb there. The defeat of Iraq

began that destablization and created the element out of which ISIS was born.


Norko is located near a potenial oil rich area, if the rumors about the reserves under

the South China Sea prove true.  It is also located quite near its patron, China, the

6000 lb. gorilla of the neighborhood.  Norko is China's Israel and as it does its bidding,

it's hard to avoid the possibility that this is all a China construct.  


It doesn't matter how many nukes Norko can build in seven weeks, if Trump attacks

them Moscow and Beijing can loan Kim some of theirs to respond to the deep state's

welcome wagon.  China may have threatened a response if the US uses nukes on

the nearby Korean Peninsula.


Right now its a war of words.  When that changes, we'll all know it.

DuneCreature's picture

Still have that oil Jones don't ya. fsff? .... So does everyone else.

Yes sir, lots of international shit stirring to keep everyone watching "Those crazy - Muzzies, Russians, Chinese hordes, North Korean luney dictators, Iranian 'Devels' (whatever they are), ISIS and Tall Grays if conventional bad guys aren't scary enough for you."

Meanwhile, they (Ass Wipes Inc & mil arm CIA-Mossad) are stealing everything and working out ways to REALLY kill everyone else off stealth like. ... Face it, they know what they're doing. There.....are.....simply....too....many....people on planet earth for them to share the resources with. ..... A bunch of us have to go. .. Can they off us and not make the planet uninhabitable? ... A hellish radioactive oven? ... I suppose they'd like to. .. Maybe and maybe they have other plans.

They can live underground, but me, I certainly don't want to. ... Then again I'm not a complete control freak psychopath either. ....... As of the last time I was checked anyway. .. I like the woods, butterflies, clean water and fresh air.

If Zero Point Energy gets away from them they are in deep dodo. They can't have anyone working on or thinking about that so I'm sure the chaos is helpful to them there. ... We need weapons and spy gear, not free energy!

Anyway, it's all fun to watch unfold as long as one of the folds doesn't flop in your direction and crush your house with you in it.

Live Hard, Time To Go Check The Garden And My Kim Voodoo Doll For Rejected Needles And Subtle Color Changes, Die Free

~ DC v5.0

Mr 9x19's picture

to downvoters : i am NOT a pro kim jun thing or so, i am not pro or con on any military stuff, it is time for humanity, to be able to let some live on their own and respect the choice, you can disagree , you can close border, but you don't have to systematically wipe the governement/dictatorship of a country just because you not agree with it or do not grant acces to soil ressources.

some races ont this world NEED dictatorship to make them stand and work. GET IT.


usa/uk/france/germany have fuck with libya, sirya, ukraine, have you seen the health of those countries lately ? it is ruined countries. it is a shame, for libya, kadafi warned occident to not  act... what now. italian mafia  swapped from cocain to human traffic over lampedusa...

ukraine has been manipulated with galiccia neo nazi milicia, is europ proud to have done such tings ? nobody recognize what west ukraine is...

do you really need to fuck with north corea ??? seriously??? come on...

Mustafa Kemal's picture

9, we are trying. Its not so easy as you can imagine. 

How do we stop this madness?

Mr 9x19's picture

i made a long write to answer to you, i have deleted all because i won't be read until the end, but i found a single word to summerize :




( -- purge -- is also a good one. )

quasi_verbatim's picture

Just as long as The Donald is wearing his big red alpha-male tie we will be safe.

francis scott falseflag's picture


 his big red alpha-male tie 


The one that's supposed to disguise his pot belly?

earleflorida's picture

sanger = jew boy

broad = bankkroll'd by israel entire life

EmergentMind's picture

I feel bad for us Americans.  We don't have a government of our own in almost every sense.  What can we do?  There must be something short of a bloody revolution, but so far nothing we the people have tried has worked.  We are inherently good people I believe, especially those who have gotten over their indoctrination.  Our overall generosity has been taken advantage of on every front. 

silverer's picture

Thomas Jefferson favored a bloody revolution. I think he's right. Puts the fear of God back into people.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
Thomas Jefferson

Gen. Ripper's picture

Very few authentic Americans available to revolt. The majority are too old, or too fat, are high on opioids or otherwise disinterested. The latest generation won't lift a finger when the commies take control.

CNONC's picture

No American is disinterested in the outcome for his country.  Most are UNinterested, but will find, to their discomfiture, that they are not DISinterested.

Revolution is all fun and games until the radicals take over.  Read "Anatomy of Revolution" by Crane Brinton.  Coming soon, in vivid technicolor horror.

alexcojones's picture

Mobile Weapons Labs? Yellow Cake?

Paging Don Rumsfeld, Condi Rice and Wolf Blitzer

And where's that Steppenfetchit General?

A History Of Lies: WMD, Who Said What and When
SgtShaftoe's picture

A school full of extremist children armed with lunchbox nukes right next door to a doctors without borders hospital. That would be irresistible to the MIC.

IridiumRebel's picture

Do they have Yeh-row Cake we can see?
Corin Powerr?

skunzie's picture

Only, this is the yeh-row cake they have.