Democrats Have Finally Figured Out Hillary's Loss: "Her Base Didn't Turn Out"

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After crunching numbers for months, a group of Democratic strategists have finally figured out why Hillary lost the 2016 election:  "her base didn't turn out."  Sure, it probably had absolutely nothing to do with all those criminal FBI investigations or the fact that Trump was able to flip some Midwest states that haven't gone Red since Ronald Reagan.  Per McClatchy:

A select group of top Democratic Party strategists have used new data about last year’s presidential election to reach a startling conclusion about why Hillary Clinton lost. Now they just need to persuade the rest of the party they’re right.


Many Democrats have a shorthand explanation for Clinton’s defeat: Her base didn’t turn out, Donald Trump’s did and the difference was too much to overcome.

Ironically, while offering up the most ridiculous explanation possible for the outcome of the 2016 election, undoubtedly in an effort to erase all blame from Hillary herself (it wasn't Hillary's fault, her team just didn't turn out the voters...they failed her), one strategist noted it's important to "learn the right lesson from 2016" and not just the one "that makes us feel good at night."

“We have to make sure we learn the right lesson from 2016, that we don’t just draw the lesson that makes us feel good at night, make us sleep well at night,” Canter said.

Sure, it couldn't possibly be that Trump's message just resonated better with voters in the Midwest...this map of Michigan is just the result of "voter turnout" problems...any suggestion to the contrary is just "fake news."


And this one from Wisconsin too...


Meanwhile, one strategist suggested that it's just time to give up on policy debates because "persuasion is harder and costs more than mobilization."  Yes, because renting buses is way cheaper than crafting a message that actually resonates with voters.

That debate is complicated, she added, because some Democrats think winning over voters is already a lost cause.


“There’s still a real concern that persuasion is harder and costs more than mobilization, so let’s just triple down on getting out the people who already agree with us,” she said. “And I think there’s a lot of worry that we don’t actually know how to persuade anymore, and so maybe we should just go talk to the people we agree with.”

But at least some folks within the party are still willing to be honest with themselves.

Turning out the base, the data suggests, is simply not good enough.


“This idea that Democrats can somehow ignore this constituency and just turn out more of our voters, the math doesn’t work,” Canter said. “We have to do both.”


Democrats are quick to acknowledge that even if voters switching allegiance had been Clinton’s biggest problem, in such a close election she still could have defeated Trump with better turnout. She could have won, for instance, if African-American turnout in Michigan and Florida matched 2012 levels.


They also emphasize the need for the party to continue finding ways to stoke its base. Democrats can do both, said Guy Cecil, chairman of Priorities USA, a super PAC that backed Clinton last year and now is trying to help Democrats return to power.


“I really do believe that we should reject this idea that if we just focus on turnout and the Democratic base that that will be enough,” he said. “If that really is our approach, we’re going to lose six or seven Senate seats in this election.”

Nothing like a nice game of CYA...if folks within the Democratic party truly believe this is the reason that Hillary lost in 2016 then they deserve the follow-up shellacking that undoubtedly awaits again in 2020.

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29.5 hours's picture

All her base were ours.

jaap's picture

Her base did not turn out..., hope they turn her in...

froze25's picture

The Dems are so afraid of backlash from Hillary they aren't willing to address the issue they have so they are doomed to more failure. Aligning themselves with Radical Islam as some type of Feminist movement is suicide as well. Her being extremely sick and getting caught on a cell phone video camera falling down while being dragged into her Van didn't help much either. Oh that and being a criminal witch into satanic Spirit cooking and being surrounded by Pedophiles.....

jcaz's picture

Good plan, Dems- hang onto this toxic bitch as long as you can-  hell, spend another $10M analyzing the situation-  that's hysterical.....

JRobby's picture

She did not have a base. At least one that was large enough.

She had 15 million illegals, multiple cast and dead people cast illegal ballots along with flipped e-machine votes.

She scammed, she lost.

CheapBastard's picture

" We de-based some folks."

The_Juggernaut's picture

Well, no shit you dumb motherfuckers.  The question is why they didn't show up to vote for her.  Let us know when you've got that one figured out.



FireBrander's picture

"Her base didn't turn out".


She lost because the LESSOR OF 2 EVILS VOTERS VIEWED HER (CORRECTLY) AS 100% PURE EVIL! more complicated than that...if you're going to win, you've got to be (viewed) as the lessor IMPOSSIBLE task for Hillary...

FireBrander's picture

I love how she thinks "Mysogyny" was a top right you lying bitch.

Many, Many, MANY of the:

Cities, Counties, and even STATES you LOST have women running the show!

My State has a woman Governor and YOU LOST THIS STATE BY 10 POINTS...explain that bitch!...and no, I don't hate women..>I HATE YOU! of the VERY FEW people I hate...and not because you're a women...but because you're a cold hearted MONSTER with the blood of 100's of 1000's on your hands...I hate you for all the people that had to die in order for you to put together your "Gold Plated Resume".


Gorgeous's picture

Splain' it Firbrander.  "We came, we saw, he died" is about as phsychotic and evil as a would be head of state can get.  Unlike someone who knows the devestations of war and can speak of it with evidence of a human heart.


Herd Redirection Committee's picture

I read an entire 10 page analysis of what is going wrong at ESPN, and not a word of it was about ESPN becoming a preachy left wing SJW-infested hangout, shoving their 'values' down everyone's throat without the possibility of having viewers respond, or be listened to....

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

I made the prediction to famil members that 2024 will be Chelsea Clinton vs Ivanka Trump.

They said "What a time to be alive."

Or wait, was it "Stop this ride, I want to get off"?

Blythes Master's picture

Agreed HR. They are as clueless as the rest of the Dums.

"...if African-American turnout in Michigan and Florida matched 2012 levels..."

So their blaming blacks for her loss. Sounds kinda' rayciss to me!

Hitlery for prison 2020

JRobby's picture

"It is the fault of the masses that they do not like giant corporations running the world anymore. The level of ingratitude is sickening after all the big corporations have done for all of these people. What ingrates."

How does one argue against that position?

Bigly's picture




detached.amusement's picture

lol....she just couldnt accept the fact that she was *that* blatantly the greater of two evils

Yog Soggoth's picture

Got fired from her only job given to her. Google that suckers.

MissCellany's picture

If Hillary had been an ace of base, maybe she wouldn't have had such a cruel summer...

But alas, she didn't see the sign...


(edit: for those who prefer the Bananarama original:

Yog Soggoth's picture

PIZZAGATE come out and playeeaaY (clinking of bottles).

TuPhat's picture

Trump was the intended winner all along.  The deep state decides who they want and the rest is window dressing.

froze25's picture

Think they told Hillary, she seemed pretty hell bent on being President since like forever.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

If Trump was the intended winner, the Deep State put on an extremely elaborate and very convincing show that they despised him.

It's frankly much more likely that Trump was the intended LOSER, but the plan simply backfired. Shit happens sometimes, even to ZOG.

It took about five months for Deep State to adjust to the setback, based on the weirdness and confusion that ensued after the election. But they eventually figured out a way to get to Trump and turn him. The same thing happened in 1980 when Reagan got elected, the solution was different back then but the timeframe was roughly the same (Reagan assassination attempt happened on March 30, 1981, Syria bombing happened on April 6, 2017) and the desired result was achieved-- the Reagan Presidency was murdered in its crib and Bush basically took over behind the scenes.

JRobby's picture

That is pretty clear at this point because the "CORP TAKEOVER" really started to get going around '83 /'84 and runs wild to this day.

the "W" Presidency did not need to be murdered in its crib and Cheney basically took over behind the scenes. But then!

"W had a thought!" 

Yog Soggoth's picture

I would say no to that thesis by the trail of dead bodies after Barry Seal. Before too, if you include previous.

nmewn's picture

So, all the Fake Nuuuz polling done to suppress/depress the other side, all the paying the homeless & mentally ill to Incite violence, all the "she's a lock" and "this will be historic" talking heads...were really a duo inverted mind fuck to suppress Hillary's base.

Seems plausible, seeing as how the legacy media just hearts on Trump  ;-)

SAE6065's picture

Exactly.  There's a great story about the 2016 election @  Its all fixed folks by the Deep State

hound dog vigilante's picture


Where's the russian/Putin ballot-stuffing story?  

MSM told me back in Dec. that HRC lost because of russian hackers... please don't confuse me with new/more reasons for the Dem trainwreck.

chubbar's picture

Apparently it didn't dawn on these Dem rocket scientists that their candidate, Hillary Clinton, is the biggest piece of dogshit in the history of american politics. That it was so fucking obvious that she is crooked and would sell out her mother for a vote that even long term Democrats couldn't vote for her.

These retards that have wasted their lives trying to figure out why she lost, only to get it wrong, should just go find a job that doesn't require any critical thinking skills, maybe garbage collecting or something (no offense to garbage collectors).

That worthless cunt Clinton should be happy she even made it onto the ballot. The sleazy DNC should be happy they aren't being hunted down like rabid dogs by their party base after what they pulled on Bernie. What a bunch of losers.


Buckaroo Banzai's picture

"Apparently it didn't dawn on these Dem rocket scientists that their candidate, Hillary Clinton, is the biggest piece of dogshit in the history of american politics."

These people are arrogant enough to think they could get anyone elected. The despicable quality of the candidate is irrelevant to them. Their attitude is, you will vote for who we TELL you to vote for, and we're telling you to vote for this stinking, filthy psychotic vagina.

TommyD88's picture

They all believed they had it in the bag..lmao..

Normal people don't like Hillary.. Her base is the derranged leftist female, which is about 90% of the self identifying "liberal" female crowd.

nobodysfool's picture

Well unfortunately their arrogance has been justified and understandable as evidenced by the overwhelming support of their party by ignorant negroids, jews, latin mericans, lgbqx?? freaks etc.  not to mention low info dumbass that's what Conservatives are up against!

RiverRoad's picture

You all have witnessed the fact that Dems know full well you don't go up against the Clinton Machine unless you have a death wish.  Instead of Arkanciding Sanders they decided to side-line him behind the scenes.  No seriously-taken Dem candidate in their right mind would have dared to challenge the Clinton Machine. 

If it weren't for Trump, the Clinton's would be sipping Martinis in the White House right now.  I'm surprised that fact hasn't killed them.

Yog Soggoth's picture

Collecting garbage in a prison chain gang is what she should be doing right now. What you wrote was offensive to gargage collectors and trashmen. Sanitation engineers are going to flatten your tires and refuse your refuse. I would repent in a very solemn manner.

gmak's picture

All of her base are belong to us.

29.5 hours's picture

LOL! I stand corrected in my meme grammar. Thanks.

GlassHouse101's picture

all of your base, base, are belong to us

baghead's picture

Hey,,,haven't they been bragging about winning the popular vote??

baghead's picture

Hey,,,haven't they been bragging about winning the popular vote??

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

No, they are just announcing themselves as the new Bolsheviks (Bolshevik means 'majority').

Canadian Dirtlump's picture

Someone set her up the bomb.


Any idea these deluded self righteous egg farts can every honestly reflect on their own failings  is located somewhere outside of rational thought. It sure is fun to watch their descent into madness though.

wcvarones's picture

Her base did turn out.

The problem is that there aren't enough of them: coastal corrupt multi-millionaire elites.

CheapBastard's picture

Her base was too busy planning the Fyre Festival.

bobbbny's picture

It had nothing to do with pomposity, arrogance, phony charity, extortion, murder, kickbacks, regime change, and revulsion.

It was the Russians.

Just Another Vietnam Vet's picture

And it had nothing to do with any  LIES.



Nobody For President's picture

And it sure didn't have anything to do with sex...

E.F. Mutton's picture

"Her base didn't turn out"

True.  Like, choosing between another bong hit/purple drank, and standing in line for a Rich White Lady is a no-brainer, d00d.