Will The Second Civil War Turn Violent?

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Dennis Prager via TruthRevolt.org,

"If college presidents, mayors and police chiefs won’t stop left-wing mobs, other Americans will."

In a recent column, I made the case that Americans are fighting the Second Civil War. The deep chasm that has opened up between the left - not liberals, the left - and the rest of the country is so wide and so unbridgeable that there is no other way to describe what is happening. But I noted that at least thus far, unlike the First Civil War, this war is not violent.

Unfortunately, there is now reason to believe that violence is coming. In fact, it’s already here. But as of now, it’s only coming from one direction.

Left-wing thugs engage in violence and threats of violence with utter impunity. They shut down speakers at colleges; block highways, bridges and airport terminals; take over college buildings and offices; occupy state capitals; and terrorize individuals at their homes.

In order to understand why more violence may be coming, it is essential to understand that left-wing mobs are almost never stopped, arrested or punished. Colleges do nothing to stop them, and civil authorities do nothing to stop them on campuses or anywhere else. Police are reduced to spectators as they watch left-wing gangs loot stores, smash business and car windows, and even take over state capitals (as in Madison, Wisconsin).

It’s beginning to dawn on many Americans that mayors, police chiefs and college presidents have no interest in stopping this violence. Left-wing officials sympathize with the lawbreakers, and the police, who rarely sympathize with thugs of any ideology, are ordered to do nothing by emasculated police chiefs.

Consequently, given the abdication by all these authorities of their role to protect the public, some members of the public will inevitably decide that they will protect themselves and others.

This ability of the left to get away with violence is one of the gravest threats to American society in its modern history. Since the Civil War, I can think of only two comparable eruptions of mob violence that authorities allowed. One was when white mobs lynched blacks. The other was the rioting by blacks, such as the Los Angeles riots 25 years ago, and the recent riots in Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore, Maryland.

Today, authorities in what we once proudly proclaimed the “Land of the Free and Home of the Brave” are intimidated to the point of paralysis.

And exactly what do they fear? Not violence — they have made peace with left-wing violence. What they fear is the left-wing media. If the Black Lives Matter movement is forcefully prevented from blocking tens of thousands of cars from entering or leaving San Francisco, the police and local authorities will be labeled racist by black leaders, a smear that will then be echoed by The New York Times and rest of the left-wing media.

Likewise, if a college president requests enough police to come to a college campus so that a Heather Mac Donald, a Charles Murray or an Ann Coulter can deliver a lecture, some of the student-gangsters engaged in violence might be injured — and that college president will then be pilloried by the mainstream media.

Furthermore, left-wing violence doesn’t only succeed where it takes place. It succeeds where nothing happens. The left can now shut down places and events just by threatening violence. This is what happened last week in Portland, Oregon. One leftist called in a threat to the 82nd Avenue of Roses Parade, saying that the Republican Party contingent marching in the parade would be beaten up. The business leaders organizing the parade canceled the whole event for the first time in its 10-year history. If they’d had any reason to believe that the police would have adequately protected the marchers in left-wing Portland, one assumes (hopes?) that they would not have canceled the parade.

An email sent to parade organizers perfectly summed up the left’s dominance of America through violence. It said, “You have seen how much power we have downtown and that the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads so please consider your decision wisely.”

Meanwhile, the press lies about alleged white supremacists in President Trump’s administration and an alleged massive surge in anti-Semitism in order to do what the left has done since Lenin: blame others while it alone organizes violence.

So, here’s a prediction: If college presidents, mayors and police chiefs won’t stop left-wing mobs, other Americans will. I hope this doesn’t happen, because electing conservative Republicans and not donating money to colleges will be more effective. But it is almost inevitable.

Then the left-wing media — the mainstream media — will enter hysteria mode with reports that “right-wing fascists” are violently attacking America.

And that’s when mayors and college presidents will finally order in the police.

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VWAndy's picture

 Tptb sure hope so. tic toc tic toc

  Me Im still liking that stall thing.

Manthong's picture


Well the good news is that we have way way way more guns of higher caliber and better accuracy then when the 600,000 or so were killed in the 1860’s..

Go figure the math out….


VWAndy's picture

 Some combination of the two would prolly be fastest.

Manthong's picture

I am religious and not really a violent person….

..but if I felt compelled to go on a Jihad in the Chicago area with the big armaments …

.. where should I go first?  


VWAndy's picture

 In a big city?  Fucking keep you dang head down and go with the strike. A good power washer for putting out fires on your street? The stupid are way better at breaking stuff anyway.

Manthong's picture

Like Forrest Gump said.. “I am not the smartest man”

..but I am way better armed and have way moar ammo than local constabulary does.

VWAndy's picture

 Keep it that way as long as you can.

Manthong's picture



Oldwood's picture

Real power comes through organization. We can be armed to the teeth but if organized militaristic police and national guard are lined up against the individual, the individual loses. Even in guerrilla warfare there is organization, and if conservatives have one common theme, it is to avoid organization. We must find a means of unifying, not just in spirit but in body and action....something that will be (and IS) currently seen as sedition and a threat to TPTB. Dangerous times.

detached.amusement's picture

I'm sure the government doesnt like people pointing out inconvenient facts like its been illegitimate since the civil war, and the corporate contract  named similarly to the original constitution is quite easily undermined, as we all watch and see.  So long as the corporate officers agree on something, it can be done; the people simply have no say in the matter.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

...as long as the PRIME shareholders agree.  Common shareholders may vote, but have no real power.

Arnold's picture

What are they doing?
Protecting their Cotton Culture and Lively Hood or something else?

The Iconoclast's picture

I don't think the government can count on the army or national guard or sherrifs' deputies to open up on the populace.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

See, "Constitution for We the People, Militia Clause," etc.

waspwench's picture

This is a very important point.   Organization is crucial and TPTB will attempt to prevent such organization by screaming racism, nazism, homo/feminist/islamo/etc-phobia.

We need to be able to counter these accusations with some name-calling of our own: commies, traitors, pedos etc. and we need to find ways to organize which cannot be criminalized.

Anasteus's picture

Hope not to turn it violent. Otherwise expect the same fate as the former Soviet Union.

Twee Surgeon's picture

We can roll through Thousands of years of history books in hundreds of nations and Observe multiple Civil Wars, Revolutions or Vast Social changes and they are all Completely Unique. What is Obvious Is that Almost everyone on Zero Hedge (including the Trolls.) Know that something Big is Up. The Banks, The Mall owners and the ten years living under the freeway homeless know something is up.

The Walking Dead Robot that used to be Wall Street, The Houses of Parliament, Le Front National, Le Frogs and Le EU, they are all feeling it and they all know whatever it is is Long Overdue. It just is. Even Zee Germans are sinking watt zee fukk!

I have no idea what it will look like but I doubt it will make the movie Red Dawn look Prophetic. No Lesbian Army (or any other) will march on D.C. with pitchforks.

Whatever is coming is coming out of left field because the 18th century is Over and Out and Numbers do what numbers do.

I think the Fed is going away and shit is going to get uglyish. There is a Very Interesting and quite unique Full Eclipse coming in August that can be Y-tubed as the great American Eclipse (but that's irrational, right ?) God help us every one. History and betting on a Ballgame are not the same thing.

No one will be storming the Bastille this time around. Paid Riots are clearly inauthentic and nobody is buying the shtick at a subconscious level.

It would not surprise me if the powers that be had a Grand Rethink.

Global Douche's picture

TPTB needed a Grand Rethink a long time ago. I still pray that California decides to break away before the next major quake does this for the rest of us! Can such a Blessing be secured?

I think this will be a kick-ass eclipse. I'll be between Casper and Yellowstone to view it, God willing. I'm already scheduled off of work then and have nearly paid for my vacation already. It won't be a total withdrawal from here as Fight Club continues.

BobEore's picture

When I came across this old post - from back when the Kenyan had just completed his first year in office - I couldn't help but be reminded of the current state of mind of those of "the right" who drank a poisoned foolaid identical in ingredients to the one I had at the time attributed to the unique sufferings of the "left."

Paralyzed, witlessly focused on the day of deliverance in November when the nightmare would be somehow rolled back by the anointed one, the American left looked on as the last barrier to the rape of the Republic was driven over by a gang of fast talking, media spinning, Zionist controlled card sharks who, having cleaned out their dupes, left the table with the winnings, unnoticed by the poor suckers whose attention was riveted to looping video replays of Change You Can Believe

as it gradually sinks in, who was hiding behind the wizard all the while, who was the Tin Man, the Cowardly Lion, the Dorothies our our sad saga all along.

Waking up with the kind of creepy, perspiring non-localized sense of having been done over, drugged, and then date raped by an operator so smooth, so trusted that even with that sick moment of realization of what’s happened one still can’t summons up the image of the perpetrator, though their presence at the crime is undeniable – that is a great measure worse. And if the experience of victims of rape is anything to go by, the worst part of the whole thing is the shame and fear of being blamed for the incident! It gives to the victim a compulsive attitude of denial, the need to refuse both to acknowledge the event, and to name or blame the rapist   - https://storify.com/SuaveBel/seduced-and-abandoned

Left, Right, left right, locked in joyless marchstep twards an endless replay of the worst scenes from the movie Deliverance. Bickering all the way.

This isn't Kansas. This ain't Amerika. Wake up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KDMDda5DNg (Bowie and Metheny 1985 soundtrack version)

Teja's picture

If that is the good news, then I am not looking forward to the bad news part.

My "good news" would be that fat people do not fight wars. Even Caesar knew that.

Chet Ricco's picture

I know of a fat North Korean that might surprise you.

JRobby's picture

They get slaughtered 

Once they are dead, they are gone. One less McD customer.

Freddie's picture

1.1 million mass murdered for the ROthschild banksters to loot the south.  See carpet baggers.

$300 to buy your way out of the draft. Draft dodgers were executed.  Lincoln made the North into a police state.

Anyone thinking Trump-Kushner-Soros is a savior is delusional



Hopefully we can charter or just steal planes to fly down to New Zealand, various islands and Parguay/Uruguay to put these elites on trial with boiled rope or guilottines.  

Refuse-Resist's picture

Some grapeshot would do wonders for these antifa protests and blm riots, would it not?

We're gonna party likes its 1863.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

Shotguns up-close, then .308, 300win mag or 30-06 for long range applications.

Cloud9.5's picture

Actually the rifled Enfield musket shot a 475 grain bullet out to about 1200 yards.  The best accuracy was about 250 yards or less.  A trained rifleman could get off three aimed shots in a minute.  There is a lot of conjecture as to how many rounds the typical civil war soldier carried.  I suspect it depended on available supplies and the expected upcoming battle.  The general assumption is that the typical soldier carried between 40 and 60 rounds.  Assuming that he could get off three rounds a minute in sustained fire the typical infantry man would run out of ammunition in just under 20 minutes.  The standard AR .223 shoots a 56 grain bullet with about the same accuracy.  I have never put the maximum number of rounds through a typical AR semi auto.  I’m thinking you could easily run through four magazines in a minute.  That would put about 120 rounds down range in a minute.  Under those conditions the typical AR shooter would be out of ammunition in less than two minutes.


I would not discount the damage or carnage that civil war battle rifle could produce.

redc1c4's picture

actually, IIRC, most of the rifles/muskets used in the Civil War I were in the 50cal range.

that's much larger than the 5.56/7.62 bores that predominate small arms today.

Anteater's picture

I pulled out my old Tarot deck to ask that same question and drew the Hag on a High Horse card, which as you know, is a sign of the Luciferians and Dark Lord of All Things. We see that in the news this week. So I drew the opposing card, and got the Peripatetic Orange Fool card, twittering from place to place about this or that, and a chill went down my spin, because if those two cards ever meet, they will consume all life savings in the zUniverse, as we saw a hint of yesterday in Congress. Dark times! Bad Cards!!

JamesBond's picture

When lawlessness prevails at every level


Erek's picture

WTF are you doin' here then?

There's a bus leaving in 10 minutes, please be under it.

dark fiber's picture

Give him a break he just turned 15.

Ed Jobb's picture

Here - here!!

Eloquently put dear Sir.

Fake Trump's picture

The problem with people like yourself is trying to curtail opinions expressed by the American people and promoting the notion to listen only to Trump and/or those politicians who are the proximate cause of the mess in America. Wake up unless you're so ignorant of what is going on in America today.  ZH is indeed a good platform where the American people can air their opinions. Having said that you don't need to agree with their opinions. It doesn't really matter as each one of us has different opinion on different issue. It is OK. 

Freddie's picture

Go to Free Republic or Gateway Pundit and you will immediately get banned if you say anything negatuve about Jared-Soros, Ivanka, ZWO, NeoCons, Goldman Sachs, Bibi or if you mention the USS Liberty.


UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

Then shut the fuck-up and fuck-off to another site where you can jerck-off to Kardishan photos!

buzzardsluck's picture

"One was when white mobs lynched blacks...."


"I hope this doesn’t happen, because electing conservative Republicans and not donating money to colleges will be more effective."


FFS this 'guy' is a giant ignorant pussy.


Oldwood's picture

Evidently conservative Republicans now believe healthcare is a right. They also appear to believe that money comes from heaven, just like the left does.

Conservatives ave always been easily cowed with a little threat and a little political correctness. A few radicals will do something for which all conservatives (especially those who speak publicly about it) will be blamed, which will lead to more apologies, more retreat, more statist collective liberalism. It's how we got here. Its pathetic because here we sit, complaining anonymously. Many of us spoke in unison with our votes for Trump, not because he was our savior but because he was the alternative. The fact that he has apparently gone squishy is no surprise but is still disappointing, but in no way a defeat. We can speak with a collective conviction IF we are willing to go public. Violence may prove unavoidable, but we need to show up in public and in great numbers such as to dwarf the left's radical wreckers. Give our so called conservatives a little backbone to actually drain the swamp and return us to an era of personal responsibility. Otherwise, the theft and violence will only worsen. Demands of ever more silence and capitulation from the right to allow government to take what wealth, liberty and property they chose for whatever they choose whenever they choose.

Obamacare reform is symbolic of what we face, where they will claim they are removing preexisting conditions from the healthcare mandate while mandating the states must make accommodations for it in their budgets. The same old game where they will simply push the costs of mandated coverage from the individual premium payer to the individual tax payer. In any case those with the theoretical ability to pay will be forced to also pay for those who theoretically cannot (or simply have other priorities).

Sizzurp's picture

These radical groups are useful idiots for the leftist politicians in charge.  Much like Hitler's brownshirts, these groups have been weaponized into a political terror device. I don't see this ending well for the radicals or their treasonous political masters.

Ghost who Walks's picture

Looks like it's time for a proper leadership demonstration by the American Elite.

If you can't get enough significant leaders to come together and agree on how to deal with each other, then yes, it will go badly.

This looks a moment for some common decency rather than violence.

veeger's picture

it's not " mainstream-media ' .. it's " jewstream-media ".

ZIRPY's picture

If the Lefties take their show on the road and disrupt life in the small cities, towns, and rural area of America,  then yes they will be confronted by the locals and will be very unpleasant and painful for them. 


But if they confine themselves to the big liberal cities and college campuses, then who cares? These places don't make a lot of stuff.  They don't grow their food.  They survive because the system works and the stuff they use and eat is shipped to their urban environment.  If the system is disrupted by their antics they will be the ones who suffer most. 

Oldwood's picture

No they won't.

They are cowards who hide their faces and behave in this way specifically where they know there will be minimal consequences. Small town America would kick their asses and they will have NONE of that. Like spoiled children they will choose their venues for acting out where they know their parents would not dare respond with force. Fifty years ago a mom wouldn't hesitate to slap her out of control child across the face in public, but today she would end up in jail. Consequences define our reality, but currently our traditional perspectives are missing and society has been set adrift in chaos.