Trump Approves Plan To Directly Arm Kurds; Turkish Lira Tumbles

Tyler Durden's picture

Update: Reuters confirms that the US arming of yet another ethnic group in the middle east is now a "go"


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Turkey's 'sultan for life' Erdogan will not be happy. NBC News is reporting that two US defense officials have confirmed President Trump has approved a plan to arm the Syrian Kurdish militia - an important U.S. ally in Syria in the fight against ISIS.

As AP confirms, US officials say Trump administration approves providing heavier weapons to Syria’s Kurds, despite "sharp objections" from Turkey.  As a reminder, YPG forces have ties to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which is considered a terrorist group by both the U.S. and Turkey, and yet which due to its location and ideological alignment, has long been an ally of the US. Two weeks ago, the US even went so far as to deploy troops along the Syria-US border after a Turkish airstrike killed several Kurdish fighters.

One of the officials told NBC News that this policy decision is very significant "because it supports the notion that the Syrian Democratic Force is the fighting force that will eventually go in to Raqqa" the erstwile capital of ISIS, which however may soon succumb to allied forces.

The move also reinforces the idea that the entire Syrian Democratic Force, Syrian Kurds (YPG) and the Syrian Arab Coalition, has the backing of the U.S.

The officials could not say what might flow in first or how it would get there, but among the expected options are:

  • Breaching equipment — bulldozers, engineering equipment
  • more effective infantry equipment: rifles, ammunition, armor, communication gear (radios)

The officials said the equipment could be delivered by any number of methods: ground convoys, C-130s, and air drops are all possible, depending on what the equipment is and the area. What's unclear is whether the U.S. may provide bigger equipment.

The Turks will be notified about this soon and the officials expect a strong reaction from them. In March, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson traveled to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who sees the YPG as terrorists, about his opposition.

Even more shockingly, Reuters reported just minutes ago that U.S. President Donald Trump's defense secretary emerged upbeat on Tuesday from talks with a Turkish official about the fight against Islamic State but did not disclose any progress toward settling a row over U.S. backing for Kurdish fighters in Syria.

Turkey, a NATO ally, is adamant that Washington should switch support for the planned assault on the Syrian city of Raqqa from the Kurdish YPG militia to Syrian rebels Turkey has trained and led against Islamic State for the past year.


For the U.S. administration, which is skeptical that the Turkish-backed force is large enough or sufficiently trained, the decision sets Trump's wish for quick battlefield victories against the need to maintain its strategic alliance with Turkey.


"Our intent is to work with the Turks, alongside one another, to take Raqqa down, and we're going to sort it out and we'll figure out how we're going to do it," Mattis told a news conference, after defense talks with members of the U.S.-led coalition battling Islamic State.


Pressed about the matter, Mattis said he did not want to disclose U.S. battlefield plans but suggested confidence that Washington and Ankara would get past the impasse.


"But we will work it out ... War sometimes doesn't give you all good options. That's the nature of war. It's not a good situation," he said.

Well now we have the answer.

USDTRY has shot up from the 3.59 area towards 3.6200 (*lira weaker against the USD).

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hedgeless_horseman's picture


Make Kurdistan Great Again

Jim Sampson's picture

While I am happy for the Kurds, can we just get the fuck out?

hedgeless_horseman's picture

2)  Do you consider the recent actions of the United States military in Ukraine, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, etc., to be violations of the War Powers Act?  If no, then why not?  If yes, then what actions would you take on this issue, if elected?


5)  The invasion and ongoing 14-year occupation of Afghanistan represents the longest war in American history. Explain your personal understanding of why, exactly, US soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen are still killing Afghani men, women, and children in their homes, schools, fields, shops, and hospitals? 

brianshell's picture

Replace the Langley army with the US army. Make it the first action in shutting down CIA and deep state mercenary operations.

JRobby's picture

Same old "new policy"


Scanderbeg's picture

Not really. The Kurds mostly have junky Soviet era equipment. The Obama administration refused to arm them to appease the Shia Government in Baghdad. ISIS ended up getting the Iraqis gear when they threw it down and bravely ran away.

If we're going to be involved this is a good decision by the Trump admin. The Kurds deserve their own state and are reliable allies. They are moderate by comparison with the other groups there and protect religous minorities.

Also fuck the Turks.

strannick's picture

Syrian Kurdish militia - an important U.S. ally in Syria in the fight against 'ISIS'? You mean against Syria

Post-Truth Society's picture

The Anti-Christ Trump has begun arming his Muslim army sooner that I expected. His Jew daughter Ivanka and Kushner are certainly rallying their well armed minions in Israel. Once Trump is able to unite the Jews and Muslims, the final battle against Christianity will be upon us.  Prepare now!


meditate_vigorously's picture

You can not have a Republic with a standing intelligence force. They should be assembled in times of direct war only. WW2 was the first time Americans forgot why, when the Oligarchs successfully argued that we needed to maintain competencies.

The people forgot that the reason you do not keep them around is that they will grow and then be turned on the People if they are allowed to stand.

Standing armies are also a bad idea, but not as directly destructive as a Republic. With standing armies you just get the problem of politicians wanting to use them.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Arming, funding & training Al CIA da / Alqueda / I CIA SIS / ISIS terror organizations since the days of the


Exact same War Criminal Treasonous "Policy" then.

Exact same War Criminal Treasonous "Policy" Now.

ZioNeoConFascist Scum.

FrozenGoodz's picture

Wonder which new terrorist org this will birth

peddling-fiction's picture

Turkey. Ask the Kurds.

Trump is Mercury/Hermes reincarnated. <-- Not good.

The_Juggernaut's picture

The Kurds, like Trump, have all the right enemies.

Uchtdorf's picture

The Trumpian Horse arrives.

Cynicles II's picture

Beware The Trojan Trump.

meditate_vigorously's picture

I am torn on this. We "owe" the Kurds a lot. We asked a lot of them to die for our government and made them a lot of promises. Our unit worked with some of them in Iraq, and they are a good people compared to any group of Arabs.

2 of our interpreters were Kurds and they were murdered while "on leave" while working with us. We also worked with them as a group in Northern Iraq, a little while after the Battle of Falluja. We also had 3 Iraqis murdered (2 Sunni and 1 Shia). We were forced to use a double agent in the end, because we ran out of semi-trustworthy terps.

So how can we have this policy while still keeping Turkey in NATO? That is just insane. It exposes a bit of what is really going on.

knightowl77's picture

Arm the Kurds, fck the Turkomen

Benito_Camela's picture

Here's an idea. For people who sign up to go fight on my dime in other countries, especially when you develop strong feelings about our "mission" there and such, why not just stay there and work to make it a better place? 

Oh right, it's cuz you don't give a shit and being an imperial footsoldier was just your job. 

Sanity Bear's picture

I would have less of an issue with this if he had the Turks pay for it.

blue51's picture

Yeah , hurry , so Soros can send shitloads of Somalis , Mexicans , Puerto Rican's, Vietnamese....etc . They MUST be multicultural ya know .

Great Deceivah's picture

The idea to "re-arm the Kurds" comes right out of the Deep State playbook:

The strategy goes like this: The Kurds kick out ISIS out of the North of Syria and form their own state, which is what they are looking for, carving out a piece of Syria. Then the Deep State has another puppet state right  on Syiran soil, so they can keep on working on their strategy to take over Syria. 


Don't kid yourselves.. Trump is playing for the Deep State.

Doom Porn Star's picture

Fuck Kurdistan.

When does Trump arm the American People so that they can fight their oppressive regime?

small axe's picture

the hits just keep on coming today ... government by Tom Clancy novel.


SgtShaftoe's picture

I wish the clintons and bushes would start killing each other. If we get to that point, we'll be making some progress.

Dr. Engali's picture

I'm glad to see that Trump's Middle East policies in no way mirrors his predecessor, or the man who came before hime, or the one before him. or......, nevermind. It's almost as if the "most powerful man in the world" isn't as powerful as people think. One might begin to think that there is somebody, or somebodies, behind the scenes who really runs the show.

peddling-fiction's picture

There are prophecies to fulfill and so little time.

The Phoenix in 2018. Then Dabiq as well as Megiddo.

Gog is in place. Dog is biting. Where is Magog?

Sizzurp's picture

I wonder which came first, Erdo's call to flood Jerusalem with Muslims, or this announcement to arm the Kurds. This is probably the response to Erdo's Muslim invasion ideas. The Kurds actually sound like decent people.

xrxs's picture

The Kurds have been loyal allies, and you don't want to cross the peshmerga on the battlefield. Hopefully this is a step on the road to self determination.

mavenson's picture

They are a nomadic people seeking a home to call Kurdistan. I think they'd like to walk away from this with a their own country carved out of Syria. Can't really blame them, but that wish and the safe zone idea makes them great pawns in the 'balkanization' process hence the US support. Perhaps secondarily works as a punishment/message to Erdogan, but I don't know, just speculating blindly.

Kayman's picture

Kurds occupy parts of Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran.  The only thing those 4 countries can agree on is their fear of Kurdistan.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Israel supports the creation of Kurdistan.  Because they want it to be a puppet 'rump state' like Jordan, Kosovo, Azerbaijan...

To understand the Middle East you have to basically look at Saudi Arabia and Israel as two parts of one empire.

Great Deceivah's picture

Yep and the Turks hate that idea, because the Kurds could take part of Turkey and annex it to a Kurdistan, if they get to carve out a piece of Syria..

Chupacabra-322's picture


More ZioNeoConFascist Rothschild Israel Globalist Outposts.

Great Deceivah's picture

Exactly.. as i commented above.. the CIA weapons have a high price.. a puppet state controlled by the Deep State, carved right out of Syrian Territory, if the Kurds get lucky enough to carve out Kurdistan out of Syria.

Chupacabra-322's picture

@ Great,

Just don't lose sight of where Operation Talpiot Deep State is headqutered.

Rothschild Israel.

Surprised no one has mentioned how the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP, INC. supplied Saddam the Chemical Weapons to Gas the Kurds.

Now we're arming them.

Strange Bed Fellows.

NordikAvenger's picture

Traditional Kurdish culture is as repressive and hateful toward women as all the other patriarchal (mostly Islamic) cultures of the region.  Kurds are as decent as Turks.  They are as harsh and cruel as Turks too.  The only difference is that they ain't got their own country while the Turks do.  Go figure.

Nuance, baby.

JohninMK's picture

Yup and not all Kurds are the same kind of Kurds, they have all kinds of different 'tribal' loyalties.

SgtShaftoe's picture


I seriously doubt it. Though I am happy that the bad players are starting to fight each other. Divide and conquer works both ways fuckers.

Emptykoolaidcup's picture

I wonder what acronym we will refer to them as in three years when they "radicalize"?

cossack55's picture

ISTIK (IranSyriaTurkeyIraqKurdistania)

Though I would prefer STIKIT

Wahooo's picture

Who names their country Turkey?

Countrybunkererd's picture

The one that doesn't want to be called Magog.

peddling-fiction's picture

Dabiq used to be in the Ottoman Empire and is now a stone throw's distance from the neo-Hurrians.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Who names their country Turkey? Thracians, I believe.

chosen's picture

The Turks moved into what we call Turkey from the Turkmanistan area (central Asia) about a thousand years ago.  A thousand years ago there were no Turks in Turkey.  Before the Turks, Turkey was part of the Byzantine Empire, mainly Greek speaking.  The Byzantine Empire was what was left of the Roman Empire after it collapsed.

Yen Cross's picture

  This ramp-up in usd/jpy is WAY out in front of the $usdx, and is going to be ugly when it retraces. On March 10th when usd/jpy was trading 115.80 [the recent swing high] $usdx was trading about 2.00% higher.

  I figure about 100 pips for every 1/2% rise in $usdx, so at it's current levels it's trading about 1.5% too rich.

  During the election back in November '16 the $usdx was trading the 98 handle and usd/jpy was trading the 1.05 handle!!!

  This move reeks of BOJ involvement.


  P.S. Erdogan is a scumbag DICKtator<

WillyGroper's picture

so, no extradition for gulen?

dat spice gotta flo.

HyeM's picture

i am happy for the kurds...

the next setp is for the kurds (not sure if they'll get it but) to get the backing necessary to carve out an independent nation off of turkish territory. little by little the isis backing/funding turkey should be removed off the world map.

hopefully the russians will help the kurds in this regard (it'll create a buffer nation between savage/barbaric turkey and russia's client state syria).





Making Merica Great Again's picture

fuck kurds another goatfucker nation