Putin Ready To Give Congress Transcript Of Trump-Lavrov Conversation To Prove No Secrets Were Revealed

Tyler Durden's picture

As the quest to unearth just what Trump told Russian foreign minister Lavrov continued, an unexpected development emerged on Wednesday morning, when none other than Russian president Vladimir Putin said that Trump did not share any classified information or state secrets to foreign minister Sergey Lavrov, and to prove it he was ready to hand over a transcript of the talks between Putin and Lavrov to Congress if the White House requests it.

"If the US administration deems it possible, we are ready to provide the Senate and Congress with the transcript of the conversation between Lavrov and Trump," Putin said at a press conference, following a meeting with the Italian prime minister on Wednesday.

While initially Reuters reported that Putin was ready to give a "recording" of the conversation, a subsequent clarification by Reuters quoted a Kremlin aide Yury Ushakov who says "Putin is prepared to provide a transcript, not audio recording, of Trump and Lavrov meeting." Arguably, that's because the last thing the White House needs right now is someone else recording conversations.

Speaking at a news conference alongside Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni in the Black Sea resort of Sochi, Putin jocked that Lavrov was at fault for not passing on what he made clear he believed were non-existent secrets.

"I spoke to him (Lavrov) today," said Putin with a smile. "I'll be forced to issue him with a reprimand because he did not share these secrets with us. Not with me, nor with representatives of Russia's intelligence services. It was very bad of him."

As for the reason behind Putin's generous offer: the Russian president said that the latest reports about Trump revealing security secrets to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov have become "political schizophrenia", and Russia is willing to help resolve these, adding Russia highly appreciates results of Trump-Lavrov talks.

"We are seeing in the US a developing political schizophrenia," Putin said quoted by RT. "There is no other way I can explain the accusations against the acting US president that he gave away some secrets to Lavrov" and added that "it's hard to imagine what else can these people who generate such nonsense and rubbish can dream up next," said Putin.

"What surprises me is that they are shaking up the domestic political situation using anti-Russian slogans. Either they don't understand the damage they're doing to their own country, in which case they are simply stupid, or they understand everything, in which case they are dangerous and corrupt."

"Anyway, this is a US matter, and we don't want and don't plan to interfere," the Russian president said.

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StopBeingParanoid's picture

The entire point for Russia to support Trump through DNC hacking was to cripple trust in institutions and democracy, thus weakening the US and the West. WH staff says he didn't share anything, then Donnie himself admits it but claims it was his right, then Vlad steps in out of the blue and says he didn't.

Even Republicans are seriously considering getting rid of this fluffy-haired walking embarassment, the sooner it happens the quicker trust in institutions will be restored. Partisanship has split the country in 2 and a broken America is a weak America, it's in the interest of anyone to have some sort of reconciliation between parties, even if it comes at the cost of Trump's head.

joeyman9's picture

In other words, return to globalism.  Fuck that!

jomama's picture

It's always been there, moron.

I swear people are dumber than goldfish. How quickly Americans forget when Donnie's handlers had 'him' bomb Syria.

Embarassingly stupid Americans.

 

Xena fobe's picture

We are comfortable with complexity.  Unlike libtards, we are capable of retaining more than one thought at a time.  We can even integrate multiple ideas into a coherent narrative that is flexible and rational.  Don't be disheartened.  In time, with practice, your critical thinking skills will improve

tx_libtard's picture

You guys are ready to take the word of Putin as truth?  What the fuck happened to you guys?!  Are y'all high?  

0hedgehog's picture

"Y'all high" if you believe a damn word of anything coming out of mainstream media or government sources. What? You think Putin is the bogeyman? If so, y'all are falling for the script.

tx_libtard's picture

Oh, right, the "Deep State".  Then who should I believe?  Alex Jones?  Mike Cernovich?  Rod Wheeler?  Point me in the right direction.  And you're gonna tell me you didn't believe a damn word coming outta the government about Benghazi?  About her emails?  You can't have it both ways there my friend.  

silverer's picture

Turn off CNN for awhile, or do you think war is the way forward for humanity? I'd rather have people lying to me to prevent war than lying to me to promote it.

tx_libtard's picture

Look, the only thing I'm taking exception to here is that you guys are willing to believe Vladmir Putin about anything.  Me not believing Putin doesn't make me a warmonger.  What a leap of logic.

ebear's picture

"Look, the only thing I'm taking exception to here is that you guys are willing to believe Vladmir Putin about anything."

You should ask that question of the Russian people.  They are far more cynical about, and critical of their own government than Americans, and yet Putin's popularity has never been higher.

To me, Putin represents the difference between a politician and a statesman, and there are vanishingly few statesmen on the world stage today.

In my study of the man, and the politics of Russia, I've asked the question: who's next?  Who follows Putin after he eventually retires from public life?  It's an important question and the possibilities are actually quite encouraging.

Now ask yourself, who follows Donald Trump?

GoinFawr's picture

"..and yet Putin's popularity has never been higher."

(Poll conducted by TASS?)

And as for,

"who's after Putin", well don't he and Medvedev just swap titles every once in awhile to create the illusion of competition?

ebear's picture

"Poll conducted by TASS?"

Nope. 

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2016-09-08/putins-popularity-...

"Trump didn't cite the source for the 82 percent claim, but appeared to be referring to polling by the Levada Center, Russia's only independent public opinion pollster. Levada says the poll was conducted August 26-29, involved personal interviews with 1,600 people in 48 Russian regions, and had a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points."

and...

"Putin's ratings have been consistently strong during his three terms as president. An Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll released in December 2014 found his approval rating among Russians at 81 percent. That poll was based on 2,008 in-person interviews and had a margin of error of 2.4 percentage points."

Quoting an American source here, in case you missed that.

""who's after Putin", well don't he and Medvedev just swap titles every once in awhile to create the illusion of competition?"

What, you mean like the Bushes and Clintons?  Don't think so. Who would that illusion be for?  The Russian people?  Russians understand realpolitik and the alternative to that arrrangement, which is to wind up like Ukraine.  Russia has internal as well as external enemies - that's already been proven.  Besides, they both have to win the vote, so I'd say Russians pretty much understand the relationship.  No illusions there.

As for who's next - if you read my post you'll see I was referring to when Putin eventually retires, which all of us do, sooner or later.

My money's on this lady:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Zakharova

 

BTW, not my downvote.  I'm not here for accolades, just well reasoned (and researched) debate.

 

GoinFawr's picture

Thanks for the info. ebear, I can tell you're a gentleman.

"Russians understand realpolitik and the alternative to that arrrangement"

Your synopsis of the Russian political system is cursory; forgiving even? The tenets of 'Realpolitik' aren't somehow exclusive to authoritarian rule, after all. ie, contrary to your implication there isn't but one, inherently bad, alternative to an authoritarian oligarchy; false dichotomy.

Politically it seems not much has really changed in Russia since 'communism' 'collapsed', only the size of the union.

"Besides, they both have to win the vote, so I'd say Russians pretty much understand the relationship.  No illusions there"...except the illusion of choice.

So I am not sure they do understand; since they've never really been offered the choice of being ruled by an oligarchy of 'elites' (current/past system) or being ruler (as in a social democracy), how could they really know what it is like? Being happy with an illusion doesn't make it real, though I concede it certainly helps with greasing the wheels that maintain one. Benevolent Police States can seem quite successful, for those who don't dare try to rock the boat, anyway; as those types 'disappear'.

Also, if you're correct in their understanding of practical solutions everyday Russians could handle the responsibility of that power.

While I am skeptical of any polls conducted in an authoritarian state (folk who do respond to polls there may be concerned for their and theirs' safety, and adjust their answers accordingly because they suspect they are being surveilled, not just surveyed- None Dare Call it Authoritarian) tHe Levada Center appears to have some credibility; and if Russians really like being ruled by thugs, then they can have their rule by thugs.

FWIW I see many many cognates between the current Russian political system and much of the west's, except that Russia's national balance sheet means it retains much of it's sovereignty, and is less apologetic and more honest about being a police state.

ebear's picture

"Your synopsis of the Russian political system is cursory; forgiving even? The tenets of 'Realpolitik' aren't somehow exclusive to authoritarian rule, after all. ie, contrary to your implication there isn't but one, inherently bad, alternative to an authoritarian oligarchy; false dichotomy."

I'll concede your point about alternatives, with one caveat.  In a perfect world where powerful nations respect each other's sovereignty, a more equitable political arrangement would be preferable, but that's not the case here.  Russia is under attack, and is effectively on a war footing with respect to the internationall banking and energy cartel that stands behind US dollar hegemony. 

An attempt to usurp post-USSR sovereignty has already been made and very nearly succeeded.  That is the backdrop against which their currentl political system should be judged.  I believe most Russians understand this, and are willing to accept the tough choices that come with defending their nation from a very real external threat.  Again, I cite the example of Ukraine as a solidifying event in forming Russian public opinion. 

To summarize:

As an a outside observer, I can analyze and criticize Russian politics til the cows come home, but in the end, it's up to the Russian people themselves to determine Russia's fate.  As long as they stand for the principle of sovereignty and non-interference in the affairs of others, and as long as they hew to the concept of mutually beneficial exchange and cooperation between nations, they'll have my support.

Xena fobe's picture

The deep state needs useful idiots.  They don't even have to work very hard to invent Russian interference accusations when the sheep are so willing to believe.  Wether you like him or not, Putin's statement here is spot on.

tx_libtard's picture

Since when does anyone believe a damned word murdering, corrupt Vladimir Putin says about anything?!  What is happening?!?

Sandmann's picture

Most of the world believes Putin rather than US liars

tx_libtard's picture

Such as?  Assad?  Hezbollah?  Kim Jong Un?  Who else?  I'm drawing a blank here.

GoinFawr's picture

So much for rule 4 of Fight Club.

Yet despite the dog pile, nobody had a relevant, reasoned rebut. Sad.

 

rex-lacrymarum's picture

Putin is no "model democrat" in the Western mold - if he were, he probably wouldn't be the president of Russia. To be sure, there are many things in Russia worth criticizing. But when Putin came to power, the country was a complete shambles, ruined by a gaggle of oligarchs who had taken over the state under Yeltsin. Putin managed to change that.  He told the oligarchs that they had a choice: get out of politics and keep your fortunes, or defy me and suffer the consequences. They didn't take the threat seriously, among other things because they controlled the country's media. Big mistake. After they got kicked off their pedestals, the smearing of Putin in the Western media began.  Suddenly he began to be painted as evil incarnate, a caricature that is light-years from reality. 

You should take the time to listen to the man and judge for yourself. He is very outspoken and doesn't shy away from calling a spade a spade. On a wide range of issues he sounds a lot more credible than most members of the Western political elite. For starters could check out the Valdai Forum videos on u-toob. 

farflungstar's picture

They fucked up America so bad (these lying liars) that Putin looks saintly by comparison.

Gotta give him credit though, he pulled Russia out of the post-Soviet muck rather well. 

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Here's a thought: If the FULL transcript was, in fact, released what other info might it contain that Putin would like disclosed? My guess is that he knows that Team Trump does not want the transcript released and thus will not accept his kind offer. I wonder if they talked about the "intelligence" that "proved" that Assad "gassed his own people." Maybe the president admitted that this intelligence wasn't so iron-clad? Something like this is probably also on the transcript that almost certainly will not be presented to Congress.

Jack Oliver's picture

Who did Putin murder ??

You are either a shill OR a complete FUCKING imbecile - Which is it ??

barysenter's picture

"If that fucking bastard wins we all hang from nooses!" - the criminal you voted for,

and thousands of her criminal cronies who snuck under the tent to spoil all future elections.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/elections/2017/05/08/criminal-investigat...

barysenter's picture

Thank you Mr. Putin. That's mighty neighborly.

Txpl9421's picture

Vlad, you have to love him.  He is always willing to pitch in a hand.

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Don't you think he has something else up his sleeve with this generous offer? This guy CAN play chess at a master level.

0hedgehog's picture

I am certain we have a recording and transcript as well. Why couldn't the White House come up with that? Would have put the MSM BS to bed pronto.

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Maybe because of my latest "lightbulb" thought. What else could be said on a transcript that Trump does NOT want revealed (and that Putin does want revealed)?

Pasadena Phil's picture

Trump is POTUS and the establishment is going to have to get used to it. As POTUS, Trump gets to meet and negotiate with foreign leaders. Are these establishments crazies saying that every time Trump has a meeting, makes a phone call or otherwise communicates with Russia, that is a defacto impeachable offense? Is he supposed to recuse himself because the rest of government has lost its mind? And where are the Republicans?

I believe that if this impeachment crap gets serious, people will stop and consider who is likely to replace him. Is there anyone standing up courageously to this insanity? Does Trump have any Republican allies at all? Do people really think that Pence will be true to the November 2016 election mandate (aka "THE OFFICIAL REPUBLICAN PARTY PLATFORM")? So when Trump goes, it's all over. Thank you GOP! Stupidest party of all time!

silverer's picture

Is Putin calling it or what? People in the US need to pull the plug on the war box in their living rooms.

TrustbutVerify's picture

Democrats and mainstream news agencies (that aren't really news agencies) have goner berserk.

Fake Trump's picture

Transcripts can be manufactured.

Caleb Abell's picture

So can claims about Russian hacking.

Give Me Some Truth's picture

So can "intelligence" proving that Assad gassed his own people. If you remember, Russia adamantly disagrees with this conclusion. Did this area of disagreement come up in the conversation between Trump and the Russian foreign minister? I don't see how it could not. If a full transcript is released wouldn't the exchange about this important topic also be included? Who is telling the truth? What nation's intelligence summaries were more credible? Would Putin want the world to see such conversations and make their own judgments? Maybe this is why he really made this offer? Maybe not, but such a possibility should perhaps be considered here.

Sid Davis's picture

These leftists crackheads just keep making up shit to try to distract Trump from doing what he promised to do.

When the leftists press publishes fake news, and they are found out, two things happen. People with brains learn to distrust anything the MSM reports, and the brainless leftists population won't believe the truth and keep living in their delusional world in spite of the evidence or lack thereof.

This nation is divided. Some people value freedom and don't want government plunder and control. Other people have elevated government to the level of God and worship it and the thugs that control it. As long as most people valued freedom highly, the leftists could only subvert and by stealth get their policies adopted, but now that their values have infected the minds of so many, they are a near equal force. As history shows, when two opposing groups in society reach this point, violent clash follows. Essentially we have two opposing incompatible cultures that cannot resolve differences because the divide is too wide, so the alternative way to resolve conflicts, the violent way, will follow. Civil war is inevitable.

jomama's picture

Ironically, you lack the intelligence to understand the social divide is manufactured - all as you play your part.

jomama's picture

How would there be a transcript unless someone was recording it?

hoos bin pharteen's picture

Every word of every meeting is recorded for future use by the participants, especially when translators are present.

TEATIME's picture

I think it's time for news executives and reporters to start meeting their untimely ends under mysterious circumstances... It works when the Clintons do it...

jomama's picture

Trump has been president for almost six months and you jackoffs still can't stop crying about the Obama and Clinton boogeymen.

Get a fucking grip.

shovelhead's picture

Jeez Hillary, you're looking kinda rough lately.

GunnyG's picture

Wow, you were able to take Obama's cock out of your mouth long enough to type that. Impressive!

Global Hunter's picture

I feel it has come to this and thought it had come to this some time ago.  I'd lose no sleep over them being disapeared, I am sick of them.  They are seditious and traitors no doubt about it.  Some of them are brainwashed, stupid and or mentally ill but that's for God to sort out and shouldn't be a valid excuse to treason charges. 

I wouldn't be upset if teachers and school officials were charged and taken to Gitmo too (I have a few school teachers in my family and I am NOT pleased with their anti-white male, anti-Christian ideology and hysteria). 

Nunyadambizness's picture

Frankly, I think it's HIGH TIME that whomever is leaking this bullshit to the MSM get arrested for disseminating secret information.  The person needs to be tried and imprisoned for the CRIME of leaking, which should give a strong indication to others to grab a cup of coffee STFU.  

Besides being illegal, the problem now is that the dipshits in the MSM will take ANYTHING--any little speck of trivial bullshit, and make it sound like it's an impeachable offense!  "He disseminated classified information!"  Well, he's ALLOWED TO DECLASSIFY ANYTHING HE WANTS!  "He told Comey to stop investigating!!"  He did no such thing--as a BOSS, he told his underling to SPEED UP HIS WORK because he wasn't GETTING THINGS DONE!!  It's no different than if I have an employee that isn't pulling their weight--EXCEPT I'm not hated by the dipshits in the MSM and everything I do doesn't get broadcast around the world. 

Sandmann's picture

Chelsea Manning's cell is free

lakecity55's picture

Chelsea is Barry's new sexretary....