UK Police Confirm Manchester Suicide Bomber Was Salman Abedi, Son Of Libyan Refugees

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Confirming what CBS reported earlier today, UK police and Whitehall officials said that the suspected bomber who killed at least 22 people is 22-year-old Salman Abedi (or Salman Ramadan Abedi) from a family of Libyan origin. Abedi had not been identified by the coroner so no further details would be given, Greater Manchester Police said.

Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime. His parents were both born in Libya but appear to have emigrated to London before moving to the Fallowfield area of south Manchester where they have lived for at least ten years according to the Telegraph.

They had three sons in total and a daughter, who is now 18-years-old. Abedi grew up in the Whalley Range area, just yards from the local girl's high school, which hit the headlines in 2015 when twins and grade A pupils, Zahra and Salma Halane, who were both aspiring medical students, left their homes and moved to Isil controlled Syria.

There were unconfirmed reports in Manchester that the whole family apart from the two elder sons recently returned to Libya.

Abedi was named by Greater Manchester Chief Constable Ian Hopkins on Tuesday.

Manchester Police Chief Hopkins said: “Our priority, along with the police counter terrorism network and our security partners, is to continue to establish whether he was acting alone or working as part of a wider network.”

According to the FT, police launched raids across the south of Manchester on Tuesday as authorities tried to establish whether the suicide bomber who killed at least 22 people, including children, in the terrorist attack on a concert arena was working alone.  The hunt has initially focused on three adjoining neighbourhoods in the city’s southern districts. Greater Manchester Police said they had raided two addresses in Whalley Range and Fallowfield, where they also carried out a controlled explosion. Forensic investigators could be seen at one of the addresses searching for clues.

Armed officers also arrested a 23-year-old man in connection with the attack, swooping on the suspect outside a Morrison’s supermarket in nearby Chorlton. It is unclear whether the arrest was related to either of the raids.


All three areas are ethnically diverse and popular places to live for students. Manchester is the biggest university city in the UK outside of London.

Earlier on Tuesday, Isis claimed responsibility for the attack, although the jihadi group has in the past taken credit for terror incidents that were later found to be unconnected. Dan Coats, the US director of national intelligence, said Isis’s role had yet to be confirmed, adding: “They claim responsibility for virtually every attack.”

UK Police said the attacker died in the explosion, which left 59 people in hospital with injuries. The device, which detonated just after 10.30pm on Monday, appeared to have been packed with metal objects to maximise its lethality. Witnesses at the scene described finding nuts and bolts on the floor near the blast.

Another priority noted by the police will be to establish whether any further linked attacks or copycat incidents are planned. It is likely that the bomber's communications will form a significant part of the inquiry, while investigators will also be checking if he was known to authorities in any way.

One area of focus will be examining the remnants of the device used in the attack as officers work to establish whether the perpetrator built it himself or had help. As well as seeking to identify any potential accomplices in Britain, authorities will also be looking into the possibility of any link to international groups. In the first hours after an attack on this scale investigators were sifting through a number of theories as they work to settle on the most likely lines of inquiry.

Commentators also pointed out that the Manchester attack took place on the fourth anniversary of the killing of Fusilier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London. Chris Phillips, the former head of the National Counter Terrorism Security Office, told BBC Radio Four's Today programme: "That may be significant as well."

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The_Juggernaut's picture

2nd generation immigrant, again.

Jim Sampson's picture

Acting alone or working as part of a wider networkk.


Thanks for the detective work!

espirit's picture


22 dead, 22 years old, on the 22nd.




TruxtonSpangler's picture

Is it too early to determine a motive?

thesonandheir's picture
What a fucking twat that copper is. All he went on about was fucking hate crimes and preaching this 'diversity is strength' bullshit.
J S Bach's picture

Ahh... swarthy arabs in foggy London.  So natural, eh?

Let's import camels into the artic regions, too.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

Summary of operation

Day 1 – 19 March 2011

On the afternoon of 19 March, the Royal Navy Trafalgar-class submarine HMS Triumph[34] fired Tomahawk cruise missiles.[35] Alongside the US a reported combined total of 110 cruise missiles were fired during the first day of operations.[36] The Royal Navy also had a Type 22 frigate (HMS Cumberland) and a Type 23 frigate (HMS Westminster) engaged in a naval blockade.


David Cameron, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, confirmed that British aircraft were in action over Libya on the 19th,[37] although it was the French Air Force who made the first coalition aerial presence over Libya earlier the same day.


E3D Sentry, Sentinel and VC-10 aircraft were said to be carrying out operations from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus.[2]


On the night of 19–20 March 2011, Storm Shadow missiles were launched by Tornado GR4 aircraft[38] of No. 9 Squadron from RAF Marham, flying 3,000 mi (4,800 km) against targets in Libya. They required refuelling by British air to air refuelling aircraft three times en route to their targets and once on their return.[39]


Day 2 – 20 March 2011

The MoD announced that Tornado and Typhoon aircraft would be deployed to Italy at Gioia del Colle Air Base.[2]


The Trafalgar-class submarine HMS Triumph launched further Tomahawk cruise missiles at targets in Libya.[2]


Tornados GR4s, flying from RAF Marham, aborted their mission, due to information being received, that suggested civilians were in the target areas. The Tornado aircraft returned to RAF Marham fully armed.[40]


Day 3 – 21 March 2011

The Prime Minister announced to the House of Commons on 21 March at the start of a debate on the UNSC resolution that RAF Typhoons had been deployed to an Italian airbase (Gioia del Colle) and would fly in support of the NFZ.[41] Three Typhoons successfully conducted a mission and returned to Gioia del Colle.[42]


906 Expeditionary Air Wing formed at Gioia del Colle Air Base and were responsible for assets forward deployed there. 907 Expeditionary Air Wing formed at RAF Akrotiri responsible for assets forward deployed there. C-17A Globemaster and Hercules transport aircraft were also used to assist in the buildup of deployed forces.[10]


Day 4 – 22 March 2011

RAF Typhoons flew their first ever combat mission,[43] patrolling the no-fly zone while Tornado GR4s from RAF Marham flew an armed reconnaissance mission. The MoD reported that Royal Navy ships Triumph, Westminister and Cumberland remained in theatre for additional strikes and maritime patrol.[44]


Day 5 – 23 March 2011

Tornado GR4s forwarded deployed to Gioia del Colle Air Base.[5] In a media interview, the UK Air Component Commander, Air Vice-Marshal Greg Bagwell, stated that the Libyan Air Force "no longer exists as a fighting force" and that "we have the Libyan ground forces under constant observation and we attack them whenever they threaten civilians or attack population centres."[45]


Day 6 – 24 March 2011

HMS Triumph fired Tomahawk Cruise Missiles at targets in Libya.[46] RAF Tornado aircraft on an armed reconnaissance mission fired Brimstone missiles against Libyan armoured vehicles that were reported to be threatening the civilian population of Adjdabiya. Four T-72 tanks were destroyed in the attack by RAF Tornados, and three by another coalition aircraft. Likely target locations had previously been identified by other Tornado aircraft equipped with RAPTOR pods.[27]


Day 7 – 25 March 2011

RAF Tornado aircraft carried out Brimstone missile strikes, destroying three armoured vehicles in Misrata and two further armoured vehicles in Ajdabiya.[47]


Day 9 – 27 March 2011

RAF Tornados from Gioia del Colle launched numerous armed reconnaissance missions, during the course of which ordnance released hit a total of 22 tanks, armoured vehicles and artillery pieces in the vicinity of Ajdabiya and Misrata.[48]


Day 10 – 28 March 2011

Tornados from RAF Marham, supported by Tristar tanker aircraft from RAF Brize Norton, carried out Storm Shadow strikes against ammunition bunkers in the Sabha area in the southern Libyan desert. The bunkers were reportedly used to resupply Libyan Government troops attacking civilians in the north of the country.[48]


The Type 42 Destroyer Liverpool deployed to the Mediterranean to relieve Type 22 frigate Cumberland.[49]


Day 11 – 29 March 2011

The London Conference on Libya was chaired by the Foreign Secretary, William Hague.


Two RAF Tornados flying from Gioia del Colle engaged a Libyan armoured fighting vehicle and two artillery pieces with Brimstone missiles near Misrata.[50]


Day 12 – 30 March 2011

RAF Tornados flying from Gioia del Colle engaged three Libyan tanks, two armoured fighting vehicles and a surface-to-air missile site with Brimstone missiles and Paveway IV bombs in the vicinity of Misrata.[51] HMS Liverpool was deployed to relieve HMS Cumberland.[25]


Day 13 – 31 March 2011

From 06:00 GMT, NATO took sole command of air operations over Libya under Operation Unified Protector, taking over from US Africa Command.[52][53][54]


Day 15 – 2 April 2011

HMS Triumph returned to base HMNB Devonport flying the Jolly Roger marking six successful Tomahawk launches.[55]


RAF Tornado aircraft launched Paveway IV bombs against pro-Gaddafi forces. Two main battle tanks in Sirte and several small ground-attack aircraft at an airfield near Misrata were reportedly hit.[56]


Day 16 – 3 April 2011

RAF Tornados reportedly launched successful attacks with Paveway IV and Brimstone missiles against ten armoured fighting vehicles south of Sirte.[56]


Day 17 – 4 April 2011

The number of Tornado aircraft taking part in Operation Ellamy was increased from eight to twelve on 4 April, with the aircraft deploying from RAF Marham.[57] RAF Tornados, engaged in two separate strikes in the Libyan city of Sirte, launched three Brimstone missiles which destroyed one main battle tank and two surface-to-air missile launchers.[56]


Day 22 – 9 April 2011

Seven tanks were destroyed by RAF Tornado aircraft, two in Ajdabiya and five in Misrata, using Paveway IV bombs and Brimstone missiles.[58]


Day 23 – 10 April 2011

The MoD reported that over the weekend of 22–23 April, of a total of 61 armoured vehicles and air defence assets destroyed by NATO, 21 were destroyed by RAF aircraft.[6]


Day 25 – 12 April 2011

HMS Turbulent was declared available in theatre by the MoD for Tomahawk strikes should they be required.[6]


RAF Typhoon aircraft were used operationally in a ground attack role for the first time. A Typhoon destroyed 2 main battle tanks near Misrata with Paveway II whilst a Tornado destroyed the third with Paveway IV. In total, RAF aircraft destroyed eight main battle tanks on 12 April. From the start of Operation ELLAMY up until 12 April, RAF aircraft had engaged over 100 main battle tanks, artillery pieces, armoured vehicles and SAMs.[6]


Day 31–18 April 2011

RAF Tornados and Typhoons attacked a pair of multiple rocket launcher vehicles and a light artillery piece reportedly firing on Misrata, as well as a self-propelled gun and tank.[59]


HMS Triumph was reported by the MoD to have launched two salvoes of Tomahawk missiles against command and control facilities, alongside precision strikes by RAF Tornados, Typhoons and coalition aircraft.[59]


HMS Liverpool intercepted the vessel MV Setubal Express heading for Tripoli, conducting a boarding party search with Royal Marines and finding trucks potentially of use to the Gaddafi regime. The merchant vessel was ordered to divert to Salerno in Italy.[60]


Day 32 – 19 April 2011

The Foreign Secretary announced that a British Military Liaison Advisory Team would to be sent to Benghazi to advise the NTC on how to improve their military organisational structures, communications and logistics.[61]


Day 43 – 30 April 2011

HMS Brocklesby destroyed a buoyant mine containing over 100 kg of high explosive. Using her sonar and underwater mine disposal system, Seafox, the mine was destroyed one mile from the entrance to Misrata harbour, making the waters safe for aid ships to enter[62][63]


Day 49 – 6 May 2011

RAF Tornados attacked a site south of Sirte based on analysis of intelligence by RAF Tactical Imagery Wing. 20 FROG-7 launchers and a significant number of Scud canisters were reported as either completely or partially destroyed. RAF aircraft also destroyed one tank and two armoured vehicles in the area of Misrata and one mobile rocket launcher south of Tripoli.[64]


Day 55 – 12 May 2011

An RAF Typhoon was reported to have destroyed two Palmaria 155mm howitzers near Sirte.[65]


While engaged in surveillance operations off the coast of the rebel-held Libyan city of Misrata, HMS Liverpool came under fire from a shore battery, making her the first Royal Navy warship to be deliberately targeted since the Falklands War.[66] HMS Liverpool had been tasked with other NATO warships, to intercept small, high-speed inflatable craft spotted approaching the port of Misrata, the type which had been used previously to lay mines in the entrance of the port. Libyan rocket artillery on the coast fired an inaccurate salvo of rockets at the ship. HMS Liverpool returned fire with her 4.5-inch main gun, silencing the shore battery, in the Royal Navy's first use of the weapon since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[67][67][68]


Day 59 – 16 May 2011

Royal Navy Tomahawk missiles reportedly fired from HMS Triumph, and Paveway IV bombs released by RAF Tornado aircraft were reported to have struck intelligence agency buildings and a training base used by Colonel Gaddafi's Executive Protection Force. RN and RAF attacks were reported to have damaged or destroyed over 300 targets since the start of Operation Ellamy.[65]


Day 62 – 19/20 May 2011

RAF Tornado GR4s hit two Nanuchka-class corvettes in Al Khums naval base and destroyed a facility in the dockyard constructing fast inflatable boats which Libyan forces had reportedly used to mine Misrata and attack vessels in the area.[69]


Day 63 – 20 May 2011

RAF aircraft destroyed five multiple rockets launchers around Tripoli.[70]


Day 67 – 24 May 2011

RAF aircraft attacked four armoured vehicles deployed near the Libyan city of Zlitan. An RAF Tornado attacked a Libyan coastal radar station near Brega, which was destroyed with a dual-mode seeker Brimstone missile.[70]


Day 68 – 25 May 2011

A vehicle depot at Tiji was attacked by a Typhoon FGR4 and a Tornado GR4 dropping four Enhanced Paveway II and five Paveway IV weapons between them.[70]


Day 70 – 27 May 2011

HMS Ocean (detached from the Response Force Task Group COUGAR 11 deployment) deployed with a complement of 4 Apache helicopters to aid operations along with Sea King Mk7 ASaC helicopters which begin flying surveillance and reconnaissance sorties of Libyan coast, Misrata, Sirte, and Benghazi.[71][72]


Day 77 – 3 June 2011

Five ships from The Response Force Task Group were temporarily deployed from COUGAR 11 (an RFTG ship, HMS Ocean, and her embarked Apache attack helicopters had been deployed days earlier) to supplement UK forces in Operation Ellamy.[73]


Day 102 – 28 June 2011

HMS Liverpool used her main gun to fire warning shots at pro-Gaddafi maritime forces moving along Libya's Mediterranean coast just west of the city of Misrata, amid concerns a threat was posed to civilians due to recent repeated attempts to mine the harbour. After initially ignoring the first shell, a further three were fired and the vessels were forced to return to their port of departure.[74][75]


Day 107 – 3 August 2011

Several rockets were fired at HMS Liverpool. She returned fire with her 4.5-inch main gun. The attack came after the ship had fired a barrage of illumination rounds in support of an air attack on the stronghold of Zliten.[76]


Day 145 – 10 August 2011

RAF Tornados launched direct from RAF Marham in Norfolk to target command and control and air defence targets with Stormshadow cruise missiles.[77]


Day 151 – 16 August 2011

Since the start of military operations on 19 March, Royal Air Force, Royal Navy, and Army Air Corps precision strikes were reported to have damaged or destroyed some 870 former regime targets.[78]


HMS Liverpool was involved in the most intense shore-bombardment of the war. Liverpool had been tasked by a patrol aircraft to fire illumination rounds over the city of Zlitan. While conducting this mission, Liverpool came under fire from a Loyalist shore-battery. Liverpool responded by firing three rounds from her 4.5 inch gun, silencing the battery. Later on the same day, a patrol aircraft spotted a large pro-Gaddafi vehicle convoy carrying weapons and ammunition. Liverpool fired 54 shells from her 4.5 inch gun at the convoy, destroying or severely damaging many of the vehicles. During the ensuing chaos on the ground, NATO aircraft destroyed the remainder of the convoy.[79]

Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

You seem to be missing a few paragraphs...

hedgeless_horseman's picture


Good summary in the last section...

Day 151 – 16 August 2011:  Since the start of military operations on 19 March, Royal Air Force, Royal Navy, and Army Air Corps precision strikes were reported to have damaged or destroyed some 870 former regime targets.[78]

The press never reported the names of any of the RAF bomber pilots.

MOSCOW, May 18 2012 (RIA Novosti) - Russia hopes that the International Criminal Court will consider all cases of NATO airstrikes in Libya that caused civilian casualties, Foreign Ministry human rights spokesman Konstantin Dolgov said in the statement published on the ministry’s website.

“We welcome the decision of ICC Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo to consider alleged violations of international humanitarian law," the statement said. "We presume that the ICC will consider all cases of NATO bombing that caused civilian casualties.”

“The issue of civilian casualties during the NATO Libyan campaign has been repeatedly raised at the UN Security Council and the UN Council on Human Rights.”

“An impartial international investigation into the effects of NATO air strikes during Operation United Defender in Libya is necessary to prevent such tragedies in the future,” the statement said.


Herd Redirection Committee's picture

And then Qaddafi got sodomized with a bayonet, Hillary Clinton allowed $500m worth of weapons to be stolen (or given) from Benghazi, and ISIS was created....  Also setting off Europe's battle with migrants.

hedgeless_horseman's picture


And Libya went from having the highest standard of living in Africa to a smoldering ruin.

This is what Qaddafi got for wanting to trade his nation's limited reserves of light sweet crude for something other than our unlimited USD.

espirit's picture


…and the first damage reports of Fukushima were being released.


Free Spirit's picture

Ok, so there are many comments that there was a true motive for revenge.  UK/NATO/USA has devastated Libya and actually also the Libyan people so no wonder that young libyans are upset.  However IMO that does not motivate a bombing of a concert with lots of young children. The western bombings of Libya is most probably something that these children were against.  Truth is that neither these children nor we "the people" can really do something against our gov´s wars.  We are more or less as powerless as most  victims of these4 wars.  Thus if the terrorists feel they MUST strike they should aim for those with some responsibility, like NATO people, preferrably high in ranks. Or major politicians who was in favour of the Libya bombings. Why innocent children who probably are AGAINST the Libya atrocities and against our gov´s wars ?

Thus as a terror strike this bombing doesn´t make sense. I remember the Baader-Meinhof gang. They struck against top leaders and authorities of the society they hated. I find that more logical.

Hopeless for Change's picture

Unfortunately, these simpleton, inbred savages will continue to slaughter innocent people instead of the evil oligarch warmongers who are responsible for turning their 3rd world mud holes into 3rd world hell holes.


And I can answer their question:  He was working with a network:  Islam.

cheka's picture

if you people would leave seth rich alone those people would be alive today

Gorgeous's picture

Nice post HH.

"Bagwell, stated that.."we have the Libyan ground forces under constant observation and we attack them whenever they threaten civilians or attack population centres". 

"Aircraft...fired missiles against Libyan vehicles that were reported to be threatening the civilian population of Adjdabiya."

It appears Gadaffi made the same incomprehensible mistake as Assad of attacking his own civillian population just when enemy airfcraft, offshore warships, or NATO security Councils are watching.   It is pretty pathetic that this flimsiest of "moral cover" can be spewed out so successfully.

hedgeless_horseman's picture


We see what we want to see.

We believe what we want to believe.

Big Brother's picture

If I may add a corollary to your chronology...

I just want to take this moment to point out all the terrorist attacks that haven't taken place in the last 10 years in the following countries:

  • Poland
  • Slovakia
  • Slovenia
  • Austria
  • Hungary
  • Croatia
  • Bosnia  (wow, couldn't have imagined saying that 20 years ago)
  • Serbia & Montenegro
  • Macedonia
  • Belarus
  • Romania
  • Moldova
  • Armenia
  • Ireland
  • Czech Republic


Now, a Venn diagram would say that none these countries have sent a navy to the mediterranean to enforce (*insert ideology, hegemony, etc) as the British have.


Jubal Early's picture

Then why hasn't ISIS terrorized Israel, Israeli's or Jews?  They certainly are a stick in the eye to the wahabbi's.  Yet they remain at least in armistice if not at peace.

The countries you list have not yet been drawn into the script because they are not yet important.  Be patient, grasshopper.

Pure Evil's picture

He got tired of smelling all those limeys. It overpowered the stench on his left hand after wiping his arse.

City_Of_Champyinz's picture

The only solution that I see for the UK is to import more primitive muslim goat rapists who will not assimilate into their culture, which is rapidly fading away...that is sure to fix their problems. 

Kayman's picture

British Culture? Subservient to the Medieval culture of the Big Mo.


fleur de lis's picture

The Brits are being socially destroyed by multi-culti craziness, aggressive secularization, and forced immigration.

Just the fact that so many of them voted in favor of the EU bodes poorly for the future.

The EU voters are people who have no loyalty for England, no stake in the future, and only think about short term profit.

The Brexit voters found out with a bang that the EU slave ship will not let them escape without ransom.

It would be interesting to know how the British military voted.

Really too bad that English history has come to this.



Von Berger's picture

" really too bad that English history has come to this ".

You want to f%#*€g live here.

Von Berger's picture

" really too bad that English history has come to this ".

You want to f%#*€g live here.

Dugald's picture


      "who according to the BBC was born in Manchester born"

            What ever happended to PROOF reading.......!!

HowdyDoody's picture

Of Libyan origin?

The irony. The UK government sent in the UK military to train the terrorists in Libya in 2011. The terrorists that butchered Gadaffi. The terrorists were then moved on to Syria to form the nucleus of the terrorists trying to take down Assad. The UK military was and is still involved in training murderous terrorists, now based in southern Syria.

Oh look, he WAS one of the anti-Gadaffi brigade.

ACP's picture

Well, looks like Ariana Pequena got her wish that her fans would "fucking die":


Never One Roach's picture

She another ungrateful disconnected "celebrity" who will sya anything for a buck. Her next move will be to adopt two Malawi chiildren to show she cares.

cheka's picture

they busted all of those guys out of prisons before libya.  there were multiple prsion breaks and thousands got loose....somehow

Bryan's picture

Wow.  I guess ugly and vapid is a winning combo for this generation.  All you have to do is giggle and wiggle and you're in.

Pure Evil's picture

Yeah, and the bitch's name is Hillary Clinton.

Nice Try Lao Che's picture

I'm wondering how "We came, we saw, he died" is working out for the families of the victims...


Chalk up another 22 to the ARKANCIDE body count.




& yet this dumbass twit was a GUNG HO Hillary supporter

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Not to make light of - or in any way condone such a tragic and barbaric act - but "blowback" does occur. Sixteen years ago. Last night. Tomorrow ... I don't see how this cycle of "we attack/occupy, they attack"  suddenly just stops. If our enemy is not afraid of dying and thinks he is going to Heaven for killing it will continue.

The only possible way to end the war is to stop fighting the war. But that won't happen. The wars will escalate.  The pool of would-be terrorists is not shrinking. It's probably growing. Anyway, it does not seem that "the war on terror" is resulting in less terror. Probably more terror. The Law of Opposite Effects predicted this result.

Nice Try Lao Che's picture

"Talk to the hand"

~Jared Kushner (& friends)

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

It doesn't take a Harvard grad to figure out that a policy of drone strikes creates terror, and future terrorists.

They call it 'tactics driving strategy' in the academic world.

Free Spirit's picture

Agree ! But the terrorists should strike those in charge bombing them. People with responsibility for the atrocities. They should not bomb innocent children on a pop concert. It is simply VERY bad publicity for their cause.

Judging this latest terror attack from a PR perspective I´d say that the attack was either no intended by the terrorist or a stupid act. Next time they should bomb those with some type of responsibility for the western wars in ME. Or AT LEAST people who may be seem as "guilty by association " with these responsible people. (Like UK/NATO/USA military personnel).

Actually I would like to see clear proof that the terrorist was from Libya and wanted to bomb these small children. I just don´t understand WHY he would do THAT ???

eclectic syncretist's picture

Targeting children forsakes the moral highground, and ensures eventual defeat. This is not a good move by radical islamists. History has repeatedly shown that Christians and Jews will commit genocidal atrocities at the drop of a hat. Roll the dice, desert rats,. Your options are going to be disappearing after this one.

Invinciblehandaxe's picture

like NATO bombs never kill children en masse eeeh moron? remember Serbia?

sgt_doom's picture

Yup, no mention of if they were escaping Gaddafi's secularism, or because he was too authoritarian for them?

Big point, that?


Give Me Some Truth's picture

In the "War on Terror," "terror" has not surrendered. Does anyone ever expect it to?

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Tis the "War on Terrorism." The Western governments use bombs and missiles from jets and drones. Those who sympathize with those we are attacking use pipe bombs, guns, trucks, whatever they can to cause maximum casualties. As neither side is going to surrender, this is our new normal. Has been for a while and will not change, probably in our lifetimes. 

If I was King of the World I'd call off the war and bring Americans (and Brits, etc) back to their own nations and families. At some point, after months or years of no attacks "over there," we would probably stop having attacks "over here." But I know this will not happen and I am certainly not going to be appointed king. These brutal murders will be avenged ... and then those who survive "our" retailiatory strikes will want to get their revenge and so this doesn't ever end.

The "War on Terror" is not an old-fashioned war against another nation or alliance of nations where peace treaties can be signed and enforced. The potentail combatants are living in apartments and homes in every major city in the world. There are people who will attack us seven years from now who haven't even thought about doing such an act today.  

BrownCoat's picture

Attacks in Sweden prove its not foreign policy that matters, rather the location of the followers of Islam. Islam is a primative, violent, intolerant way of life. They will kill "infidels" (aka Westerners) as a first priority. They will kill each other if the opportunity permits. Unfortunately, they breed faster than they can kill each other.

Free Spirit's picture

Bullshit !!  The attack in Sweden was done by an adult  terrorist with links to ME terror organisations (who as we know at least partly are financed by western countries or it´s allies in the ME). It was executed within hours of a statement by the swedish foreign minister that the US bombing of the Syrian airport was "questionable" from a legal point of view.  Sweden through this statement was the ONLY western country that did not approve Trump´s Tomahawk missiles against the Syrian military.  In other words Sweden - as a member of the security council - took the same position as China and indirecty supported Russia´s statement on Trump´s attack. I view this as the likely reason for the attack. Especially as the terrorist seems to have decided to attack only on  the very same day.  If he had planned the attack BEFORE the minister´s statement then it would be different.  But no, just hours after the statement he began looking for the truck he used for the attack. It was a sudden spontaneous terror attack.

And You don´t know shit about islam. I know islam countries where the people are warmhearted and supportive to all people. More so then western people. ( and yes I am REALLY swedish and have only swedish ancestors for thousand of years )



TruxtonSpangler's picture

Because there is no 33rd day of any month?

swytt's picture

33 certainly rings a bell too many.

dangerb407's picture

Satanists will probably push for a 33 day month so that they have another option!