Watergate's Woodward Warns "Smug" Media Against Trump "Hyperventilation"

Tyler Durden's picture

Having previously warned that the press “shouldn’t whine, and if we sound like we are an interest group only concerned with ourselves, it doesn’t work with the public," infamous Watergate reporter Bob Woodward told Axios' Mike Allen that the press is covering Trump with a certain smugness, but it's not the media's job to make his presidency an editorial... "You have to have a presumption of good will."

"I think there's so many people treating the Trump presidency as if it's a try-out, as if it's provisional... odds are, he's probably going to be president for a full term, four years, maybe even more... there's hyperventilation, too many people writing things. When's the impeachment coming, how long's he gonna last, will he make it through the summer, and so forth…


"I worry, I worry for the business, for the perception of the business, not just Trump supporters, they see that smugness... I think you can ride both horses, intensive inquiry, investigation, not letting up... at the same time, realize that it's not our job to do an editorial on this."

As a reminder, Woodward previously warned that it’s not in the interest of either the Trump White House or the media to war with each other.


"I think everyone has accelerated this work. The other question to ask, is there any justification for Trump and people like — in his White House responding this way? And the only justification I can think of, which really isn’t a justification, but it accounts for emotional spasm of, my God, this is enemy of the people, I know that reporters have talked to people in the Trump house, — Trump White House about very sensitive intelligence operations, that we find out about in the press. And I think Trump is horrified that this is out there. And these are not necessarily things that are going to be published, but Trump is a newcomer saying, my God how do reporters know about these things? And so it’s — we’ve got to stop it.”


“[I]t’s not in our interest, the media’s interest to have a war with the Trump White House. It’s not in Trump’s interest to have this war.”

Sadly, it appears it's too late to get this toothpaste back in the tube (for both sides).

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VinceFostersGhost's picture





Screw you MSM!!!

MalteseFalcon's picture

"I think there's so many people treating the Trump presidency as if it's a try-out, as if it's provisional..."


I'll tell you who is provisional - the MSM.

The 2016 election was their final hurrah as a relevant political force.

The average age of the MSM consumer is mid-50s and getting older all the time.

As people continue to cut the cord, who will pay for cable MSM?

The MSM has been steadily shrinking since the 90s.

The Drudge Report has more eyeballs than any of the MSM sites.

The MSM is in a war with Trump, because the MSM declared it.

All Trump needs to do is ignore the MSM and it will drift away.

But if Trump actively cancels government subsidies to the MSM, the MSM will be gone by 2020.

As it is the MSM has to resort to making up "news".

This is National Enquirer stuff.

Mr.BlingBling's picture

The only exception I'd take to your post is WRT Trump's ability to cancel .gov subsidies to the MSM.

I'd venture that the MSM subsidies are via CIA programs such as Mockingbird. As such they are probably funded either by CIA's black budget or even off-budget from CIA's illegal side businesses.

Never One Roach's picture

The MSM is the biggest threat to Americans right now.

And the MSM=DNC

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

Yes Woodward, let's support Trump as he perpetuates the suicidal/homicidal foreign/economic policies of the past 5 administrations.

Fed Supporter's picture

Looks like finally some democraps and their media arm are starting to get some blackmail threats from Trump.  I forgive Trump now, it looks like he might go scortched earth on their asses yet.

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

"I identify more as a democrat and Hillary would make good president" DJT

Trump Winery is trying to hire foreign workers - Dec 2016 - http://nypost.com/2016/12/22/trump-winery-is-trying-to-hire-foreign-work...

Gary Cohn: "The Fed Is Doing A Good Job"; Trump "Respects The Powers Of The Fed"
Gary Cohn, Ex-Goldman Sachs President, Chief Economic Advisor to Trump - March 2017

DJT GS - "I'm not into Goldman Sachs, I don't care about Goldman Sachs" https://youtu.be/FHNAZMIcFNg?t=2713

Fed Supporter's picture

I realize he is not perfect but he is a hell of a lot better then Hillary.  If Hillary won, right now we would have a one arm black trans woman on the Supreme court, that never went to law school.

BigFatUglyBubble's picture

With her, at least you knew she was %100 full of shit.  Trump is a much better actor, which is dangerous. 


Speaking to the camera, Jenner added: “OK, last week Donald Trump said I could take a pee anywhere in a Trump facility, so I am gonna go take a pee in the ladies’ room.”

If Hillary made that speech and touched the glowing orb in KSA, you'd all be going berserk, and rightfully so. 

Mr.BlingBling's picture

I can't argue about that glowing orb. WTF was up with that? (Yeah, I know it was just a glitzy ribbon cutting ceremony but the visual image was . . . not ideal.)

Avoiding that type of image is what the advance team is for. You need someone who's anal retentive enough to drill down into the details of these events, and someone else with the stones to tell the KSA, "I don't give a shit what you've planned, the President isn't going to hover over a high-tech version of a witch's cauldron. You want him involved in this ceremony, then go buy some big novelty scissors."

JRobby's picture

Woodward? Worries for "the business"?????? There is no longer a "business of journalism". That is long dead.

Anyone with a reasonable ability to think has disregarded "the business" long ago. 

But the advertisers will still pay based on the ratings which are fixed just like the "repoting" is fixed, because it's all "fixed".

Fed Supporter's picture

Out of everything that is wrong with this nation the broken left leaning, un-objective, propaganda pushing media is what makes me the angriest.

Kickaha's picture

Many years ago, I read an fine analysis of the financial plight of the newspaper industry, which concluded that it was, basically, doomed. The underlying thesis was that the industry was profitable only because of the revenue it received for an incredibly mundane feature, classified ads.  The author had the foresight to see that the internet would completely destroy that revenue stream.  Think about it.  The Sunday papers used to have entire sections in it filled with nothing but want-ads, Section G for real estate, Section H for jobs, Section I for cars, and a thick Sectoion J for everything else.

The author of that article was probably somebody with some journalist credentials who was unable to see an alternate potential revenue stream that was available to anyone willing to cast aside even the pretense of journalistic ethics:  re-casting the business as a propaganda tool and offering it up to the highest bidder.  This is what all MSM outlets have done, not out of political ideology, and not by choice, but as the only means they could think of to save their careers or squeeze some value out of the capital previously invested in what had become a failed business model obsoleted by the internet.

This new business strategy is deeply flawed and has a short half-life, for at least a couple of readily apparent reasons.

First, people seeking actual news will eventually understand they are being played and drop their hardcopy or paid internet subscriptions.  As time passes, the remaining subscribers will keep paying not because they are seeking out the news.  They will remain because they share the political position of their favored MSM outlet and are happy to support that propaganda machine with their own financial contribution to it.

Second, each MSM outlet will not tolerate any journalist not willing to completely commit himself to becoming a propaganda tool.  This creates a downward spiral for the already biased reporting, as eventually no stories are reported that contradict the propaganda narrative, nor do any simple facts contrary to that narrative ever find their way into print.  The reporters who are acceptable to management would have a strong personal bias against doing so, based upon their own politics, and homogeneity of thought makes it much, much easier to keep grinding out the propaganda intended not to inform the public, but, instead, to shape their opinions on the important issues of the day.  

The 2016 Presidential election shortened the half-life of this thoroughly corrupted industry even further.  While ad revenue is welcomed, I think these MSM outlets would continue to publish even with zero ad revenue for as long as the owners saw any secondary gain from the pushing of the propaganda.



Fed Supporter's picture

You nailed it perfectly biut from what I read on the left there are a hell of a lot of sheeple out there that have not figured this propaganda game yet.  It could be a long time before this stuff implodes.

how_this_stuff_works's picture

Well, how's it going to look for the MSM if DOJ has documentation from Comey's office that portrays the story other than the media has?

IF it comes out that there was no memorandum, no documentation, no agents who will substantiate Comey's claims, or other "disturbing" evidentiary findings on that evidence seized by DOJ, somebody's gonna be scrambling to cover their own ass.

HenryKissingerBilderberg's picture

it’s not in the interest of either the Trump White House or the media to war with each other.

they should toast with wine, play golf and rub shoulders...

and a bit of pizzagate and spirit cooking, every now and then

Chaos_Theory's picture

Problem is majority of the press only go to war on "Rs" and not "Ds."   Last 8 years they were O's jock strap, and now they're trying to give T a columbian necktie, and they're not even trying to hide it.  I just wish they'd be as tough with both sides (assuming there is a "both sides" and not good cop-bad cop of one true party). 

max2205's picture

that turd is SEE I AYE

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

Smugness is putting it mildly.

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

you beat me to it..more like corrupt bought media of the big lie.

Fed Supporter's picture

I would like to see the behind the scenes blackmail or jail threats that have happened for the Democraps to call off their attack dog the media.  Maybe the IC knows Trump will be a good neocon and have told the democraps to back off.

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

the more Trump keeps his promises , the more they will attack,, they have not been called off, they are waiting for him to come to heel after these last 4 months- if he does not back off..it is on like donkykong

grunk's picture

"Arrogance" is more appropriate.

BorisTheBlade's picture

Fear and loathing rather.

Ignatius's picture

Smugness (Woodward) calling out smugness (the press).

What a world.

small axe's picture

more like "holy crusade and direct line to god" for MSM converts


Ignorance is bliss's picture

The media has outed themselves to the American public. We now know they are the mouthpiece of the corrupt liberal elite. We now know the media doesn't support American values or the honest hardworking people within her borders. They are the enemy working to control your thoughts. It's why their viewership has continued to decline and their collective power continues to wither away.

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

don't look at who is the media owners..no no that is not important..hollyjuwoood is an outliner for sure...eyes wide shut.

Cue Ball's picture

Disappointed that Trump has caved on getting out of the Middle East BUT I am still Never Hillary . By the way , if oil is so plentiful , why are at war in countries that produce oil ?

exi1ed0ne's picture

Because it happens to be the geographic location of a dozen star gates, and its all a proxy war between the Nordics and Reptilians for control of them.  Duh.


Sanity Bear's picture

Media industry will remain a dumpster fire until some espionage arrests sobers up that bunch of power-drunks.

Full Court Lugenpresse's picture

A huge part of why Trump won was that the public saw just how much elites in gov't and media openly hate them and their populist candidate. The fact that these same entities are now doubling down on their contempt and open bias show that they have "learned nothing and forgotten nothing".

Nobody in America except a handful of hysterical shitlibs in NYC and DC enjoy being sanctimoniously lectured by weasel-word articles in the Pravda. Everyone else just gets PO'd. Michael Moore was right: this election was the biggest "Fuck You!" in American political history.

shovelhead's picture


Even Donut-Boy fucks up the propaganda line and lets the truth slip every now and then.

south40_dreams's picture

The media is a broken machine that needs to be dumped in a landfill

az_patriot's picture

Actually, the media IS the landfill.  And a very smelly one.

shovelhead's picture

I just keep waiting for MK-Ultra to bring back the good acid.

BingoBoggins's picture

Finally, a sensible candidate.

Deep Snorkeler's picture

One should judge Trump by his depravities.

Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real.


shovelhead's picture

Trump eats pork rinds on Shabbos?

sister tika's picture

Gawd that's funny. You're on a roll this morning, shovelhead.

dexter_morgan's picture

And you would do that for Hillary and Bill Clonton also? Bernie? LOL, flaming hypocrite. 

BingoBoggins's picture

Where can I get his job? I'm good at writing text. I'm serious. But - cash green, 25 an hour, mo'fo. You late or short i'll skull fuck ya. Don't fuck w/ my money!

az_patriot's picture

"Smugness" hardly begins to describe the behavior of the press.  Someone can be "smug" and still have intelligence and rational thought.  The (mostly) liberal media is not only smug, but so full of shit that they propagate fake news on an almost daily basis to fulfill their personal agendas.  In other words, they're not journalists, but propagandists.  Smug?  Yes, absolutely.  But it's far, far worse than that.  They're in the business of lying.  DAILY.  HOURLY if they can.

Oreilly's picture

Trouble with both the premise and conclusions of this story is that it fails to take into account the past 50 years of journalism. The press fighting with viewpoints it does not support is not a recent happening, it's only that the rise of independent news sources (i.e. - the internet) has made it patently obvious when they do it today. They still tell lies and wait for the destructive results before retracting a story or moving on, but the lies are almost immediately countered before much damage can be done. More and more they are preaching to their own choirs, which makes them less and less effective at moulding public opinion.

As far as leakers in the White House, this is simply illegal and should be criminally punished. But to Woodward, leaking is like illegal immigration: if it is something he agrees with then who cares about the law? Situational ethics, as he would for sure be all for prosecution if someone leaked his personal bank account information or credit card info.

The furor over Russian hacking and the imminent impeachment of Trump was not believed by 75% of the public, and the 25% who did believe it didn't need the press to do so. I think Trump is handling the press just fine, it isn't a worry of mine. What I worry about is more how he uses the controversy to change his campaign promises into something that appeases the true power holders in Washington.

artichoke's picture

I think he loves the big coalition for getting things done, and he's a genius at forming such coalitions.

We now have coalitions against NK and a new one against Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as ISIS.  (Like magic, even the stupid Palestinians are ready to deal.  Coincidence, I think not.)

And he likes the big coalition at home too, but that's harder to get where many Reps are never-Trump.  But he's not the king, so that's how he has to get things done.  Otherwise they sound nice but they don't get done.

Kickaha's picture

The 25% don't believe the "Russian hacking" narrative, either.  They just enjoy using it to cripple the current administration from even beginning to govern this country.  The investigation will last, even in the absence of any evidence, for at least four years, and maybe eight.  Any call to end the investigation due to the lack of any real evidence of collusion will be met with the same outcry seen in the wake of Comey's firing.  Any call for the display of real evidence will be met with a solemn "that's classified" retort.

Somewhere, Joseph McCarthy is smiling.

roadhazard's picture

I don't see how Trump could get reelected. Everyone now knows that whatever comes out of his mouth during a campaign is bullshit. And he wants to balance the budget on the backs of the very people that elected him while giving the rich whatever they want. Of course some people like that shit.