Trump Loses In Court Again After 4th Circuit Upholds Block Of Travel Ban

Tyler Durden's picture

Trump may be traveling, but the bad news for the president never stops, and while we await tonight's daily "Russia collusion blockbusters" from the WaPo and the NYTimes, the president got some even more bad news after NBC reported that a Federal Appeals court has upheld the ban on Trump's travel plan.

As NBC explains, a Richmond, VA-based federal appeals court on Thursday refused to reinstate President Trump’s ban on nationals from six majority-Muslim countries from entering the U.S., delivering a major blow to the Trump administration.

The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals said in its ruling that Trump’s executive order "speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination" and noted that the President's power to deny entry to immigrants is "broad" but "not absolute."

“It cannot go unchecked when, as here, the President wields it through an executive edict that stands to cause irreparable harm to individuals across this nation,” he wrote.

The court’s decision keeps a Maryland court’s order blocking the ban in place.

The government’s appeal of that order was heard by the court’s full panel of 13 judges.

Though Judge Stephanie Thacker concurred with the court’s decision to keep the stay in place, she said she would have not have considered the remarks Trump made about banning Muslims while on the campaign trail. Those comments took centerstage during oral arguments earlier this month as the judges grappled with whether they should be considered, the Hill adds.

The new ban was announced in March, but was never effected because federal courts blocked it just hours before it was set to go into effect. It would have banned people from Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen from entering the US for 90 days and all refugees for 120 days.

Full ruling below (link):

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Dr. Engali's picture

Did anybody really expect the courts to support him? Anyone?.........., crickets.

Son of Loki's picture

Americans should learn Russian to influence Trump, Horseface says

tmosley's picture

>Broad, but not absolute

The judge should be disbarred.

NoDebt's picture

So this court also bases their decision on "context".  Namely, his campaign rhetoric during the election.  Should be interesting when this gets to the Supreme Court.


PT's picture

I think the correct response from here onwards is, if you or a loved one is injured by an immigterrrrst, locate these judges and sue.  Yes, judges can be sued.  In theory, anyway.  Now all we have to do is wait for another MurderDeathKill (Demolition Man).

Of course, if my idea could work then I don't think it would have been needed in the first place.  I hear there is a sale on pitchforks at the hardware store today...

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

A lawsuit will be the least of their worried.

All judges who allow this invasion shall be sold to the caliphate as slaves, after the men are castrated of course.

Four chan's picture

he should break out the military. fuck these obams judges.

fx's picture

Any other ruling would have been suspicious, actually.

Then again, when you just awarded a 350 bn$ arms deal to the top sponsor of international terrorism, you better don't argue for travel bans on the grounds of "terrorist threats". Especially, when these bans do not even include said top sponsoring country.

Sorry, DJT, but your anti-islamist-terrorism narrative died a few days ago, once and for all.

Oh, and lest I forget:


BullyBearish's picture

yep...Hamster Wheel: what the PTB keep us on with these unresolvable issues, wasting what remaining brain cycles we have AND dividing us while they arm terrorists, kill civilians (mosul), continue to devalue our currency, spy on us and make us a laughing stock and hypocrite of the world...

The Management's picture

This single issue shows ever so clearly what and who the real problem is. Easily the most aggravating thing i seen in a while, as this is EXACTLY the kind of national decision a president should have power over.

Im actually more disgusted that the right let this shit slide than that the left cheer it on.

jackstraw001's picture

Fuck it, let the guillotines roll, we got a long line of these fuckers to clear up...judges, bankers, journalists, most of Congress...

Mr. Universe's picture

By the time they were angry enough to do something about the situation it was too late. They looked around to join up with those of like minds and saw that their nation had been over run. These new citizens (perhaps not but they do vote)??? share none of the same values and mostly are a different religion or in fact Satanic worshippers. There was no outrage against thesystem, instead the outrage occurred against them. Overwhelmed by the sheer numbers, backed by the State, their Armies and Judges, they were easily relocated to "re-education" camps where suprisingly few returned from. The only way to stop it will ...ugh ackkk kaaack!

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Trump Loses In Court Again After Appeals Court Upholds Block Of Travel Ban

My response: The JUDICIAL ARM of the USA is absolutely and utterly CORRUPT to the CORE.

There is but one option left: DRAIN THE JUDICIAL SWAMP (NUKE IT!!)

I am often reminded of the following quote:

Absolute (judicial) power corrupts absolutely!


Ghost of Porky's picture


847328_3527's picture

With dead bodies of little children lying in various morgues throughout Manchester and the coroners still trying to pull all the nail and pieces of glass from their small cold faces and arms and legs, the result of muslim terrorist bombing … these judges have quite the nerve to block Trump’s desire to protect American little children from a similar fate of Islamic terrorism.

Perhaps karma will drift in their direction.

HoyeruNew's picture

nice usage of emotional imagery to play on emotions but I guess you hadn't heard yet:

Manchester bomber linked to terrorist group which UK allegedly backed Manchester suicide bomber Salman Abedi and his father, Ramadan, had long-standing links to a violent jihadist group which may have had British backing for the 2011 Libyan war and a 1996 attempt to kill then-Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.

The controversy centers on the role of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), which was both an anti-Gaddafi and Al-Qaeda subsidiary in the North African state.

Read more

Manchester bomber’s father and brother arrested in Tripoli

Many of the fighters which formed the group in the mid-90s were veterans of the Afghan-Soviet war from the 1980s. They went on to fight the Gaddafi regime in Libya itself.

The war saw the overthrow of the Gaddafi regime and the eventual murder of the leader himself after he was captured by opposition fighters. Since NATO’s intervention, Libya has been in chaos.

It has descended into a protracted civil war, is a major contributor to the international refugee crisis, has its own branch of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), and two opposing governments.

The elder Abedi was reportedly one of the LIFG fighters who fled Gaddafi’s response to the rebels, settling in London and, later, in Manchester.

The area of Manchester in which Salman Abedi grew up was home to a number of other LIFG members, including former senior commanders including Abd al-Baset Azzouz, who left Manchester to go to Libya and run a 200-300-strong militant network for Osama Bin Laden’s successor, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Azzouz is reported to be an expert bomb-maker.

In 2002, former MI6 agent and whistleblower David Shayler accused the British spy agency of colluding with the jihadist group in a failed 1996 effort to kill Gaddafi, an allegation the British government strenuously denies.

Allegations have also emerged that in 2011, the UK may have relaxed restrictions on LIFG fighters based in the UK and helped them return to Libya to fight Gaddafi.

The UK was at that time engaged in fighting Gaddafi as part of a US-led NATO coalition. Former fighters interviewed by the Middle East Eye said that the UK actively supported the return of anti-Gaddafi dissidents, including those with Al-Qaeda links, to the North African state.

One fighter who spoke to the Middle East Eye said he had been interviewed by an MI5 agent who asked if he was “willing to go into battle?

While I took time to find an answer he turned and told me the British government have no problem with people fighting against Gaddafi,” the fighter said.

Others reported that when the war in Libya began, they looked into how to get fake documents, because their passports had been removed as part of restrictive control orders placed on them by the UK government.

One said that within days, the authorities had returned their passports, after which they headed straight to Libya to take on Gaddafi.

At the time of the war, current UK Prime Minister Theresa May was Home Secretary, with oversight of MI5 operations. It is not clear if she was aware of the decision to relax restrictions of jihadists and return their travel documents.



you're way behind on the news, babe. get caught up.

cheech_wizard's picture

I was going to say much the same thing. If it is a terrorist attack and children's bodies are lying in pieces, I'm going hunting.

Standard Disclaimer: Judges, politicians, bankers... in that order.

Croesus's picture

@ Cheech:

Let me know, and I'll be glad to tag along and do my part.

Stackers's picture

Reynolds v. United States (1878) the Supreme Court used these words to declare that "it may be accepted almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect of the amendment thus secured. Congress was deprived of all legislative power over mere [religious] opinion, but was left free to reach [only those religious] actions which were in violation of social duties or subversive of good order."

silvercity's picture

The Supreme Court has not cared about Constitutional Law since Jefferson was President.

Oliver Klozoff's picture

scotus will also uphold the lower court. gorsuch will traitor just like the rest of the elites.

pound the vix's picture

it appears the court thinks they are absolute.  May the safety of the nation be on their unelected shoulders!

silvercity's picture

They are absolute until some President has the ball to once again say," Lets see you enforce that ruling". Trump ain't no Andy Jackson!

Theophilus Carter's picture

judge steph thacker is a barry appointee...they're fighting on every single front they have.  

Oliver Klozoff's picture

... and they're winning too. They will continue to win unless Trump starts fighting back.


Kidbuck's picture

Yet, a judge's pronouncement is absolute.

Walt's picture

Hate to be picky, but you misspelt disbarred - it's spelt 'arrested'.

Thorny Xi's picture

Did HE expect it? No. The guy's playin' his base.

847328_3527's picture

<< The judges should be disbarred >>


Do you mean 'dismembered?'

Well, in any case, the American Femi-Nazis and left wing DNC snowflakes should not cry when their little girls and boys are blown to smitherines by the next moslim tearrist.

It does make one wonder why there was such outrage about the Boston bombers when judges act like this to encourage violence and tearrism?

Monkey Punch's picture

It's fucking working. The should have said:

"It is not the business of courts to pass judgement on the decisions of the president in the field of foreign policy. Judges are not expert in that field and they lack the information necessary for the formation of an opinion."

Instead they put the rights of non-citizens before the saftey of the country. REEEEEE

jimmy12345's picture

his base isn't the sharpest.

HRClinton's picture


Q: Do these courts (the Judicial Branch) have a Superior Standing over the Executive Branch?

At some point, the Executive Branch will have to make this fundamental and Constitutional decision, and assert its authority by using Executive Power: the DOJ and Law Enforcement Agencies and, potentially, National Guard assets, to start prosecuting Judges and Mayors who are acting unlawfully. 

The RINO GOP would rather sacrifice the country and its Administration, than risk potential voter backlash between now and 2018. Were it not so, they'd be up in arms about this and backing the Administration.

It is that simple.

giggs's picture

You snow flakes sick of all the winning yet?

Trump is the swamp.

HoyeruNew's picture

Swampy swallowed El Trump long ago. Or maybe he was always Swampy himself.

BuddhistAescetic's picture

The United States is finished......

onewayticket2's picture

Black Robes Matter.

the Law no longer does.

Juggernaut x2's picture

That's All, Folks!

lester1's picture

Trump needs to go nuclear. Clean house of any liberals and Obama holdovers anywhere in government !!

GunnerySgtHartman's picture

His major mistake was not demanding the immediate resignations of all Obama appointees as soon as he took office.  It has only festered from there.

Dr. Engali's picture

The fact that he didn't and the fact  that Obama kept a bunch of Bush people on should tell you something. I'll leave that for you to figure out.

Oliver Klozoff's picture

In any organization you need people who are at least familiar with the job.

I try to fight the good fight for my team which makes me unpopular with management.

Yet they keep me around either to watch me twist and squirm or because I do a damn good job.

But there's no excuse for hrc not doing the perp walk.

HRClinton's picture

His even bigger / 'yuger' mistake is in still not doing the gutsy thing.

That in itself is a yuge Tell and insight into Trump the Chump.

PT's picture

Trump can not drain the swamp by himself.  <-- That's me being optimistic.  It's probably worse than that.

PT's picture

No point being President.  They got no power.  Shoulda been the right advisers to the President.  Or is that, "advisers"?

AlexCharting's picture

Many on Trumps team only consider USA as their temporary home... their hearts are elsewere.