Dear Great Britain – Blame Your Intelligence Agencies & Government, Not The Internet

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As we have noted numerous times in recent months, increasingly draconian ‘Big Brother’ counter-terrorism tactics are being implemented around the world, and in the wake of the third terrorist attack in weeks in England, Prime Minister Theresa May is calling for new Internet regulations and the suppression of digital tools that facilitate online “safe spaces” where attacks can be coordinated... with reports overnight that May is considering new powers to block access to extremist websites if internet companies fail to act over online radicalisation.

But, as Liberty Blitzkrieg's Mike Krieger notes, the dishonest and dangerous response of Theresa May’s UK government to the horrific terrorist attacks of the past month is unfortunately all too common when it comes to those in power.

Rather than look inward at the glaring shadiness and corruption inherent throughout UK government polices, its “leaders” are looking to use these barbaric acts as a excuse to push through an authoritarian and illiberal expansion of state power. Specifically, Theresa May’s government is despicably using the attacks to push for regulation and censorship of the internet.

As reported by the Independent:

New international agreements should be introduced to regulate the internet in the light of the London Bridge terror attack, Theresa May has said.

 

The Prime Minister said introducing new rules for cyberspace would “deprive the extremists of their safe spaces online” and that technology firms were not currently doing enough.

 

“We cannot allow this ideology the safe space it needs to breed – yet that is precisely what the internet, and the big companies that provide internet-based services provide,” Ms May said.

 

The Conservative manifesto pledges regulation of the internet, including forcing internet providers to participate in counter-extremism drives and making it more difficult to access pornography.

Silly me, I thought this was about terrorism.

The Act, championed by Ms May, requires internet service providers to maintain a list of visited websites for all internet users for a year and gives intelligence agencies more powers to intercept online communications. Police can access the stored browsing history without any warrant or court order.

 

Ms May’s speech is thought to be the first time she has publicly called for international cooperation in bringing forward more red tape to cyberspace, however.

 

The intervention comes after the introduction of the Investigatory Powers Act 2016 – dubbed the “Snooper’s Charter” – which expands the powers of spying agencies and the Government over the internet.

It’s important to understand that May’s government was aggressively pushing for internet censorship well before both the recent terror attacks. For example, here’s some of what I highlighted in last month’s post, UK Government Moves Aggressively to Censor and Control the Internet:

Theresa May is planning to introduce huge regulations on the way the internet works, allowing the government to decide what is said online.

 

Particular focus has been drawn to the end of the manifesto, which makes clear that the Tories want to introduce huge changes to the way the internet works.

 

“Some people say that it is not for government to regulate when it comes to technology and the internet,” it states. “We disagree.”

It would be bad enough if the UK government was actually doing its best to prevent terrorist attacks, but harsh reality paints precisely the opposite picture. Moreover, today’s post proves without a doubt that the UK government is not only in bed with terrorists, but seems to be actively covering it up.

In that regard, over the weekend I read one of the most disturbing and enlightening pieces on just how complicit UK intelligence agencies are when it comes to supporting terrorism and allowing terrorists to come back to Great Britain.

The piece is a collaboration between Nafeez Ahmed and Mark Curtis, and is a lengthy must read. It’s titled, The Manchester Bombing: Blowback from British State Collusion with Jihadists AbroadPrepare to be outraged:

(This briefing will be updated as more evidence emerges. Sources are overwhelmingly from mainstream media, except where clearly stated).

Introduction

The evidence suggests that the barbaric Manchester bombing, which killed 22 innocent people on May 22nd, is a case of blowback on British citizens arising at least partly from the overt and covert actions of British governments. The British state therefore has a serious case to answer. We focus primarily here on UK policies towards Libya but also touch on some of those related to Iraq and Syria.

Summary

In summary, the evidence so far shows that there are six inter-related aspects of blowback:

  1. Salman Abedi and his father were members of a Libyan dissident group?—?the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)?—?covertly supported by the UK to assassinate Qadafi in 1996. At this time, the LIFG was an affiliate of Osama Bin Laden’s al-Qaeda and LIFG leaders had various connections to this terror network.
  2. Members of the LIFG were facilitated by the British ‘security services’ to travel to Libya to fight Qadafi in 2011. Both Salman Abedi and his father, Ramadan, were among those who travelled to fight at this time (although there is no evidence that their travel was personally facilitated or encouraged by the security services).
  3. A large number of LIFG fighters in Libya in 2011 had earlier fought alongside the Islamic State of Iraq?—?the al-Qaeda entity which later established a presence in Syria and became the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). These fighters were among those recruited into the British-backed anti-Qadafi rebellion.
  4. UK covert action in Libya in 2011 included approval of and support to Qatar’s arming and backing of opposition forces, which included support to hardline Islamist groups; this fuelled jihadism in Libya.
  5. One of the groups armed/supported by Qatar in 2011 was the February 17th Martyrs Brigade which, some reports suggest, was the organisation which Ramadan Abedi joined in 2011 to fight Qadafi.
  6. Qatar’s arms supplies to Libya in 2011 also found their way to Islamist fighters in Syria, including groups affiliated with al-Qaeda and ISIS.

Conclusions

The evidence points to the LIFG being seen by the UK as a proxy militia to promote its foreign policy objectives. Whitehall also saw Qatar as a proxy to provide boots on the ground in Libya in 2011, even as it empowered hardline Islamist groups.

 

Both David Cameron, then Prime Minister, and Theresa May?—?who was Home Secretary in 2011 when Libyan radicals were encouraged to fight Qadafi?—?clearly have serious questions to answer. We believe an independent public enquiry is urgently needed.

 

This combination of Anglo-American policies across the region has contributed to further instability and the rise of violent jihadism. In fact, an even stronger conclusion may be warranted based on the evidence of the extent of UK covert and overt action in the region in alliance with states consistently supplying arms to terrorist groups: that agencies of the British government itself have, in some senses, become part of the broader ‘terrorist network’ with which the British public is now confronted.

That was just part of the summary. Here’s some stuff from the heart of the piece.

The Manchester bomber, Salman Abedi, then aged 16, is reported to have fought against the Qadafi regime with his father Ramadan in the uprising of 2011.[3] The group that Salman Abedi joined, fighting alongside his father, was reportedly the LIFG.[4] Ramadan Abedi is reported as having been a prominent member of the LIFG, which he joined in 1994.[5]

 

Leaders in the LIFG had fought together in Afghanistan in the early 1990s, helping the Afghan mujahidin to overthrow the Soviet-backed government in Kabul.[13] The British government and CIA then covertly supported the mujahidin.[14]

 

In the mid to late 1990s, the LIFG was most active in the eastern province of Cyrenaica, was involved in violent clashes with the Benghazi police, and attempted to assassinate Qadafi. In 1996, there is evidence, now widely-known, that MI6 funded an operation to assassinate Qadafi using the LIFG. (See Box 2) The plot failed but the LIFG continued its violence in eastern Libya and sent fighters to at least two military training camps in Sudan in 1996, in which al-Qaeda was also present, thus helping the LIFG make contacts with al-Qaeda.[15]

 

When Qadafi clamped down on the LIFG following the assassination attempt, the UK gave refuge to some of its members and dozens were allowed to settle in Britain.[16]

 

By the end of the 1990s, LIFG activity had slowed drastically and many LIFG members relocated to join al-Qaeda. In 2001, the US Treasury Department listed LIFG as a foreign terrorist organisation linked to al-Qaeda. In 2002, LIFG’s al-Qaeda ties came under increasing scrutiny when Anas al-Libi, a senior LIFG commander and companion of Osama bin Laden, was detained by US forces for the 1998 bombings of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. In May 2003, the LIFG reportedly worked with the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GCIM) to plan five synchronised suicide bombings that killed 45 people in Casablanca, Morocco.[17]

 

LIFG members played a key role in the opposition forces that toppled Qadafi in 2011. But Britain also facilitated the flow of LIFG dissidents from the UK to fight Qadafi. It also approved massive arms supplies to the opposition to Qadafi by Qatar, much of which went to hardline Islamist groups.

 

Middle East Eye has reported that the British government operated an ‘open door’ policy that allowed Libyan exiles and British-Libyan citizens to join the 2011 uprising that toppled Muammar Qadafi even though some had been subject to counter-terrorism control orders. Several former rebel fighters now back in the UK told Middle East Eye that they had been able to travel to Libya with ‘no questions asked’. These dissident were then members of the LIFG and most were from Manchester. One said that, as he was travelling back to Libya in May 2011, he was approached by two counter-terrorism police officers in the departure lounge who told him that if he was going to fight he would be committing a crime. But after providing them with the name and phone number of an MI5 officer he had spoken to previously, and following a quick phone call to him, he was waved through. As he waited to board the plane, he said the same MI5 officer called him to tell him that he had “sorted it out”.[20]

 

The Daily Mail reported that:

“when they returned to the UK, having spent months alongside groups thought by British intelligence to have links with Al-Qaeda, rebels were said to have been allowed back into the country without hesitation.”[21]

 

The Daily Mail also reported:

“Libyan officials have backed up the claims, saying the British government were ‘fully aware’ of young men being sent to fight, turning the North African country into an ‘exporter of terror’”.[22]

 

Peter Oborne, also writing in the Mail, has written that Libyan dissidents were “undoubtedly encouraged” to travel to Libya to oust Qadafi and that this was with the “encouragement of MI6” which released terror suspects from control orders.[23]

Read that over and over and over again. And the solution is to regulate the internet? What a complete joke.

Abdelhakim Belhaj, was LIFG’s emir from 1995 to 2010. In 1998, when LIFG members fled to Afghanistan to help the Taliban, Belhaj developed close relationships with Taliban chief Mullah Omar and al-Qaeda leaders.[26] He also wrote a glowing letter of support to the al-Qaeda mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing.[27] Yet Belhaj would go on to become a military commander for the NATO-backed National Transition Council in Tripoli to bring down Qadafi in 2011.

 

During the 2011 war, the Gulf state of Qatar armed the Libyan opposition and in the process supported various hardline Islamist groups. Britain specifically backed the Qatari role in arming the opposition and worked closely with Qatar, supporting its provision of arms and support to fighters on the ground. Indeed, there is evidence that the Qatari role in Libya was specifically proposed by Britain.[28] Qatari arms went to Islamist groups such as the 17 February Martyrs Brigade, a militia comprised in part by Islamist fighters who had fought against Qadafi. Qatari support also went to Rafallah al-Sehati, a group whose extremists later broke away to form Ansar al-Shariah, the militant group that played a role in the death of the American ambassador, Christopher Stevens (see Box 5).

 

The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilising force since the fall of the Qadafi regime.

 

It was also reported that Sufyan Ben Qumu, a Libyan army veteran who worked for Osama bin Laden’s holding company in Sudan and later for an al-Qaeda-linked charity in Afghanistan, ran the training of many of Darnah’s rebel recruits. Qumu spent six years at Guantanamo Bay before he was turned over to Libyan custody in 2007; he was released, along with al-Hasidi, from a Libyan prison in 2008 as part of Libya’s reconciliation with the LIFG.[30] Al-Hasidi, who had fought against the US in Afghanistan in 2001, had been arrested in Pakistan in 2002 and turned over to the US, imprisoned probably at the US base at Bagram, Afghanistan, and then mysteriously released. The US Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg, told Congressmen he would speak of al-Hasidi’s career only in a closed session.[31]

 

Other commentators recognised the Islamist nature of some of the rebels. Noman Benotman, a former member of the LIFG who had fought the Soviets in Afghanistan, estimated that there were 1,000 jihadists fighting in Libya.[32] Sir Richard Dearlove observed that the rebel stronghold of Benghazi was “rather fundamentalist in character” and Admiral James Stavridis, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander in Europe, said that US intelligence had picked up “flickers” of terrorist activity among the rebel groups; this was described by senior British government figures as “very alarming”.[33] Shadow foreign secretary Douglas Alexander said in parliament that since there was evidence of the presence of al-Qaeda-linked forces among the rebels, Britain should “proceed with very real caution” in arming them. In response, Foreign Secretary William Hague downplayed the concern, saying that

 

“Of course we want to know about any links with al-Qaeda, as we do about links with any organisations anywhere in the world, but given what we have seen of the interim transitional national council in Libya, I think it would be right to put the emphasis on the positive side”.[34]

Look how that turned out.

They were “more antidemocratic, more hardline, closer to an extreme version of Islam” than the main rebel alliance in Libya, said a former Defense Department official’.[50] Qatar’s chief-of-staff, Major-General Hamad bin Ali al-Atiya, later said: “We acted as the link between the rebels and NATO forces”.[51] Qatar also played a key role alongside Britain in the ‘Libya contact group’ that coordinated policy against the Qadafi regime; the first meeting of the group, in April 2011, for example, was convened by Qatar and co-chaired by Britain in Doha..[52]

 

As the New York Times reported: ‘The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilising force since the fall of the Qaddafi government”.[53]Indeed, some of Qatar’s arms were subsequently moved from Libya to militants in Syria and Mali.[54]

 

NATO’s intervention in Libya effectively created the conditions by which the country became a safe haven for jihadists sympathetic to al-Qaeda and ISIS, despite doctrinal disagreements. Far from the LIFG having been simply “deradicalised” as it had claimed in 2009, the documentary and public record evidence suggests that significant numbers of LIFG members remained sympathetic to the violent Islamist cause.

 

A large number of LIFG fighters in Libya in 2011 had earlier fought alongside the Islamic State of Iraq?—?the al-Qaeda entity which later established a presence in Syria and became the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, ISIS (and later the Islamic State). They were then recruited into the British-backed anti-Qadafi rebellion.

 

Box 7: Arming the Syrian jihad

 

Document releases under FOIA from the Pentagon and Department of State show that the CIA was well aware of how weapons from anti-Qadafi rebels in Benghazi were covertly shipped to Islamist rebels in Syria by the Gulf states and Turkey.[63]

 

A September 2012 Pentagon Defence Intelligence Agency document confirmed that the Gulf states and Turkey, with Western support, were supporting Syrian rebel groups consisting of “the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI [al-Qaeda in Iraq].” Al-Qaeda in Iraq’s role among “the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” was noted in the context of anticipating that the support would lead to the creation of a “Salafist Principality” in eastern Syria. The document even predicted the possibility that al-Qaeda in Iraq’s main vehicle, ISI, “could also declare an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organisations in Iraq and Syria.”[64]

 

The same powers that were involved in supplying Libya’s rebels, particularly Qatar, were active in Syria. Around the time that the DIA report circulated in the intelligence community, classified US intelligence assessments made available to President Obama and senior policymakers showed that most Saudi and Qatari arms were going to “hard-line Islamic jihadists, and not the more secular opposition groups”.[65]

 

In 2014, a senior Qatari official revealed that Qatar and Saudi Arabia had for years provided economic and military assistance primarily to both al-Qaeda’s Syrian arm, Jabhat al-Nusra, and to ISIS.[66]

 

A secret memo written for then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in August 2014 (which appeared on the WikiLeaks website in 2016) noted that the Saudi and Qatari governments “are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL [ISIS] and other radical Sunni groups in the region”.[67]

 

Saudi Arabia’s neighbour Qatar, the world’s only other predominantly Wahhabi state with whom Theresa May’s government has recently signed large commercial deals, may have been the biggest funder of the Syrian rebels, with some estimates suggesting the amount may be as much as $3 billion.[68]

 

While this does not justify labelling all the Syrian rebels as jihadists, it explains why the more secular, democratic forces among the rebels have often been supplanted by hardline Islamist forces.

Even more worrisome, the more you look, the deeper the rabbit hole goes. Indeed, it appears the UK government will go to remarkable lengths in order to specifically protect its terrorist supporting allies.

For instance, take a look at this article published by the Independent a few days ago:

An investigation into the foreign funding of extremist Islamist groups may never be published, the Home Office has admitted.

 

The inquiry commissioned by David Cameron, was launched as part of a deal with the Liberal Democrats in December 2015, in exchange for the party supporting the extension of British airstrikes against Isis into Syria.

 

But although it was due to be published in the spring of 2016, it has not been completed and may never be made public due to its “sensitive” contents.

 

It is thought to focus on Saudi Arabia, which the UK recently approved £3.5bn worth of arms export licences to.

Come again?

Tom Brake, the Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman, has written a letter to the Prime Minister pressing her on when the report will be published and what steps she proposes to take to address “one of the root causes of violent extremism in the UK”.

 

“You will agree with me that the protection of our country, of the British people, is the most important job of any government,” he wrote. “Certainly, more important than potential trade deals with questionable regimes, which appear to be the only explanation for your reticence.

 

Accusing the Conservatives of being “worried about upsetting their dodgy friends in the Middle East”, he said party had “broken their pledge to investigate funding of violent Islamist groups in the UK”.

 

He added: “That short-sighted approach needs to change. It is critical that these extreme, hard line views are confronted head on, and that those who fund them are called out publicly.”

This is straight up insanity, but it goes back a long way. For example, how about this from a 2008 Guardian article:

Saudi Arabia’s rulers threatened to make it easier for terrorists to attack London unless corruption investigations into their arms deals were halted, according to court documents revealed yesterday.

 

Previously secret files describe how investigators were told they faced “another 7/7” and the loss of “British lives on British streets” if they pressed on with their inquiries and the Saudis carried out their threat to cut off intelligence.

 

Prince Bandar, the head of the Saudi national security council, and son of the crown prince, was alleged in court to be the man behind the threats to hold back information about suicide bombers and terrorists. He faces accusations that he himself took more than £1bn in secret payments from the arms company BAE.

 

He was accused in yesterday’s high court hearings of flying to London in December 2006 and uttering threats which made the prime minister, Tony Blair, force an end to the Serious Fraud Office investigation into bribery allegations involving Bandar and his family.

But yeah, it’s the internet’s fault. Let’s blame YouTube videos.

Finally, the Saudis don’t only use the stick, they also brandish the carrot. As Lee Fang at The Intercept wrote yesterday:

New figures released by British Parliament show that, at a time when U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May’s ties to Saudi Arabia have become an election issue, conservative government officials and members of Parliament were lavished with money by the oil-rich Saudi government with gifts, travel expenses, and consulting fees.

 

Tory lawmakers received the cash as the U.K. backs Saudi Arabia’s brutal war against Yemen, the poorest country in the Middle East.

 

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has made the U.K.’s uneasy alliance with the Saudis an election issue, with voters going to the polls on June 8. The Tories’ ties to Saudi Arabia, Labour leaders charge, have resulted in record weapons sales — conservative governments have licensed £3.3 billion ($4.2 billion) in arms sales to the Saudi military since the onset of the Yemen campaign — and a reluctance to criticize human rights abuses.

 

While Tory politicians have defended the arms sales to Saudis as a move to shore up Britain’s allies in the region, Tory members of Parliament have collected £99,396 ($128,035) in gifts, travel expenses, and consulting fees from the government of Saudi Arabia since the Yemen war began.

Once the Saudis funded 9/11 and saw they could get away with it, they knew they could get away with anything.

Now let me just end this post with the following suggestion.

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apadictionary's picture

nope. it was this damn internet that did it.

HowdyDoody's picture

The UK (along with the US and Israel) is a state sponsor of terror.

Theresa 'Je suis juif' May

Bytor325's picture

Keep calm and keep your thoughts to yourself

Croesus's picture

Coming Soon, to a USA near you!

eforce's picture

Theresa Maybe: "But muh censorships?"

fleur de lis's picture

The uppities know very well that this mayhem is all orchestrated by them.

They know that the unassimilable Islamics will act as predicted and so are imported in droves and allowed to run amok, as expected.

Thus the Islamics always find themselves in the middle of one disaster or another but fail to understand how they feed it.

To the contrary -- they blame their feeders and caregivers for provoking them.

It's very much like some domestic abuse problem on a massive scale -- the abusive brutes lash out at their caregiver counterparts and blame them for making them angry, then the caregiver takes the blame and tries to be more accomodating and compliant, which of course enrages the abuser more easily, etc.

Rinse, repeat.

Now the uppities want internet censorship since their stupid antics are being exposed one after another.

What they really want is to censor any threat to their twisted power.

The only ones who can stop this weird and nonstop torment are the 4chan sleuths. 

 

 

 

Von Berger's picture

That's right!!
Let them enter our country and kill innocents

These three jads had a very low IQ.and a clever networking of indoctrination........ perfect storm for most jads. Blind violent anger for the non- believers. Disenfranchised 2nd generation unemployed malcontents.
Throw in a fucked up ideology 3 kitchen knives and hire van and bingo!!
Off we jolly well go to create mayhem onl London Bridge.

Don't matter a pigs burp that the security forces KNEW these lads were a tad unstable......fuck it ...... let them run free.
But we are told to ( keep calm and eat bullshit).
FACTA NON VERBA.

Kidbuck's picture

I trust my government. The Fed is good for America, Goldman Sucks is going God's work, and I won't cum in your mouth.

Archie1954's picture

Yes they are, but more than that, they created the refugee crisis in the Middle East. The US especially is responsible for millions of refugees pouring into Europe. Interesting how your so called ally creates the problem for its friends and then walks away from its responsibilities for doing so. With friends like the US, Europe doesn't need any enemies!

Archie1954's picture

Yes they are, but more than that, they created the refugee crisis in the Middle East. The US especially is responsible for millions of refugees pouring into Europe. Interesting how your so called ally creates the problem for its friends and then walks away from its responsibilities for doing so. With friends like the US, Europe doesn't need any enemies!

giggler321's picture

to be expected, every incident they'll try and grab more power/control.  blaming the internet is like saying, these terrorists have mouths, lets cut them out because thats whats causing all this bad stuff.  very low ball punt at what is in essence their own self made blow back.  you live in libia, seen your family get blown up by a western strike, given refugee status in western country, what you gonna do?  can't speak much or write the lingo, they give u a roof and food, all your thoughts are with the pain of your family.  pay back time - it's their fault, it's that simple

SoDamnMad's picture

Blair and Cameron dashed off to KSA to sell big arms deals thus allowing the funding of terrorist orgainizations and madrasas teaching  jihadist programs to flow back into Britain.

kellys_eye's picture

If .gov can't handle some raghead sand monkeys then they'd better consider the backlash of attempting to curtail 'educated' peoples internet access.

Remember prohibition?  The war on drugs?  If .gov want to create yet more underground resistance then way to go......

TheSilentMajority's picture

It is impossibe to police a huge and growing muzzie population without incorporating internment camps.

The muzzies are truly winning their caliphate in the UK and all over the west.

- Westerners live in constant fear of islamic terror
- Western democratic elections/processes and other public events are often postponed or cancelled due to islamic terror
- Western countries are literally being bankrupted by massive anti-terror security costs, with questionable results
- Muslim population growth via mass legal/illegal immigration, and their meteoric birth rates, are decimating indigenous non-muslim populations
- Western countries are accepting Sharia law as being a parallel legal system
- Western countries are making it illegal to criticize Islam
- Western countries now accept islamic terrorism as the new normal

Just sayin'

VK's picture

- Westerners live in constant fear of Islamic terror that's actively supported, armed and funded by Western intelligence agencies
- Western democratic elections are manipulated due to said intelligence agencies
- Western countries are being bankrupted by Western MIC, western healthcare costs, central banks and racketeering by western banks
- Western welfare state and feminism has contributed to massive fall in morals that values immediate selfish pleasure more over long term contributions to society.
- Western countries don't have the rule of law after faked 9/11 attacks and bankers financial crisis which brought millions to their knees
- Western intelligence agencies don't want their partners, the jihadis, to feel hurt. After all they're only following orders.
- Terror as the new normal justifies a $900 Bn NATO budget and is a gravy train for many higher ups.

Just sayin' as well

Cruel Joke's picture

Yeah, I watched that on Caliphate News Network.

#CNNisISIS

StaySunny3000's picture

#CNNisISrael

There, fixed it for ya.

otschelnik's picture

If labor wins day after tomorrow then the defense of Britain will be in the hands of mental giants like this: 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4574822/Diane-Abbott-embarrasses...

 

equity_momo's picture

At this point , the UK may aswell embrace such mental midgets and get the collapse over and done with.

The Tories are probably even more dangerous than the clowns in Labour.   The Tories are better at keeping the masses asleep. Better at manipulating the public that the State is good and has your best intentions.  Maybe a total calamity in charge is whats needed to drop the Wizards curtain.

 

- and these pols dont really do anything. theyre given a script. they follow orders. they hold no more ability to enact laws and regulations and change society than you or I.   they just swing the hammer at what theyre told to hit. 

smacker's picture

Diane Abbott came straight off the wall. She's a full-on retard. Her closest mad-mate is Maxine Waters, although she has a slightly more friendly style.

Despite being mid way between a full-on-in-your-face Commie and a maniac, her opinion of public school education is so high that she sent her own son to a private school and then attempted to justify it when exposed.

Bernard_2011's picture

Key excerpt---for which Obama should have been held accountable:

 

Around the time that the DIA report circulated in the intelligence community, classified US intelligence assessments MADE AVAILABLE TO PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SENIOR POLICYMAKERS showed that most Saudi and Qatari arms were going to “HARD-LINE ISLAMIC JIHADISTS, and not the more secular opposition groups”.[65]

 

In 2014, a senior Qatari official revealed that Qatar and Saudi Arabia had for years provided economic and military assistance primarily to both al-Qaeda’s Syrian arm, Jabhat al-Nusra, and to ISIS.[66]

 

 

When did Obama EVER speak about this to the American people?  HE KEPT IT SECRET AND HE DID NOTHING.  This is almost treasonous.

 

And now we have Trump accepting gold medals and doing sword dances with the Saudis---who will join forces "to fight extremism".

EuroPox's picture

Just one problem with May's meme about tightening up the internet - the latest scum bags did not use Whatsapp or Telegram or anything else on the internet.  In the days before the attacks they used good old SMSs as their means of communication.  Which makes a farce of complaints that encrypted communications is the problem... that is not the problem, the problem is that TPTB are incompetent.

c2nnib2l's picture

and your love for muslims 

Bernard_2011's picture

How many horrendous atrocities were committed in Syria by jihadists because of the financial support from Qatar and Saudi Arabia?  The media never tells us about that.  

 

It's all about how "Assad has got to go"---which is THE GOAL of Qatar and Saudi Arabia.  Great job MSM.

Von Berger's picture

How do terrorists communicate then ..........
light a fire on top of a mountain and send smoke signals??? Grow up.
Durrrrrrrrr ...... I have a faint suspicion it's the net. TPTB know who the buggers are they just haven't the balls to arrest and lock em up and throw away the key........... forever!!
I wish WE had a Donald, fucking pussy conservative May.
All government loose there teeth through being politically correct.

BeepBeepRichie's picture

Hagelian dialectic imposed by gladio B

css1971's picture

One of the fuckers was on TV.

 

The level of sheer incompetence at every level is truly staggering.

 

So I don't worry too much about a totalitarian state in the UK, they're simply not that capable.

Cruel Joke's picture

Theresa May just needed an excuse to have her own Patriot Act. Beware UK.

GreatUncle's picture

Does it stand up for American people or something else?

The only question left to ask.

Amun's picture

Right to the point

To pass an entry test at Eton you have to be prepared at the age of 11 to massacre your own innocent countrymen for the sake of a greater Good (like Patriot Act, f.i.)

After Eton you go on then onto a degree in PPE (Politics, Philosophy and Economics) at Oxford which is pretty much more of the same

The problem with Britain is not what tools its government uses

The problem is that it uses those tools against its own people to serve some other Higher and Unique Race

In essense this is called Anglo-Zionism, gets really confusing with British, Brits  and Bnai-Brits

uncle_disgusting's picture

Theresa May wants to ban crypto: here's what that would cost, and here's why it won't work anyway

https://boingboing.net/2017/06/04/theresa-may-king-canute.html

smacker's picture

An excellent article which exposes Theresa May's ghastly real objectives.

I commented on ZH two days ago that when I listened carefully to her first public response to the London Bridge terror attack, she said "enough is enough" and then went on to whine about "too much extremism" in Britain. She did not refer to "Islamist Extremism", just extremism in general.

That led me to believe that her unstated intention was to deal with general extremism, not specifically Islamist Extremism, which means that little or nothing will be done to make citizens safer on the streets from Islamist Extremists because that would require serious changes to .gov Foreign Policy.

Anyone who believes that London Bridge could have been prevented by more controls on the Internet is deluded.

Lo, it is now known that this is exactly what she intends to do.

And let us not be fooled, part of that will be to attack alt-media websites and drive them off the Internet so that lying MSM propaganda can once again dominate.

Theresa May is not by nature a Conservative. She is an authoritarian nanny-state Left-of Centre adherent, not unlike her erstwhile predecessor Cameron, with little regard for citizen privacy and freedom.

Just like the US, there is no true Right-of-Centre party any longer, just shades of cancerous Leftism. Ditto right across Europe.

 

headfake's picture

part of that will be to attack alt-media websites and drive them off the Internet so that lying MSM propaganda can once again dominate...

 

nail on the head

headfake's picture

must control what people can read, must control the narrative. Cant have critical thinking people. Its always been about control, terrorism is just an excuse. Create a problem, get a reaction, offer the solution.

BiPolarFrenchman's picture

So this is how they'll roll back Brexit? 'Muh Internet!' leads to Tory election loss...

Thom Paine's picture

Dear Ms May 

Go to the mosques where there are some that radicalise, go to the Muslim enclaves where there are some that radicalise, watch the ones that go to the ME, places like Saudi Arabia and the like.

 

AND wouldn't you want to keep the internet OPEN - because it so much easier to spy on them and find all the risky ones.  Block the net and it all happens behind closed doors - Idiots.

Thom Paine's picture

Theresa May blew the election with her pathetically weak response to the terrorist attack, yet another one.

So low keyed and weak.  She had a chance to win the election right there and then and instead lost it.

Somebody should remind her, politicians never let a crisis go to waste.

She could have got angry, promised a lot of hard nasty crack downs and so on, and got angry WITH the people. Instead she was still upon high.

I bet her colleagues are screaming at her.

Manipulism's picture

They (let) make the crisises they need.

CorneliuCodreanu's picture

This article is just the tip of the iceberg. It is more and more obvious that these events are staged. 7 dead and 48 wounded by three terrorists with "blades" over an area of about 400 meters. The event lasted 8 minutes. That's one casualty every 9 seconds.  How is that even possible when they had to dodge police as well.?Has anybody seen even one clear video of someone being slashed in this rampage?      

Now one of London Bridge's staged deception "terrorists" has been given the risable name- Khuram Shazad Butt. The perverted operatives behind these events must be yucking it up over that one.

Manipulism's picture

and it happens always at the 22th.

Omega_Man's picture

the wrong people are dying in UK

Manipulism's picture

There are companies out there which will arrange the "Incidents" that are nessecary to implement such "goals".

Like this company: http://www.crisis-solutions.com/

I think they are located near GCQH

delmar Jackson's picture

Stop attacking the saudis. they are our best friends. Why else would Trump pick Saudi Arabia as the first foreign country to visit? Look how many Mosques they have built in the West just to help spread peace and understanding between our peoples. Theresa may is right. The problem is not multiculturalism. Diversity makes us stronger. What is destroying us is all the personal freedoms we have.  We need more muslim immigrants and to find a way to re educate those who oppose Muslim diversity . When diversity covers the planet and we are all muslim this wil be a beautiful world. Stop fighting and enjoy the true blessings of diversity and multiculturalism.

Last of the Middle Class's picture

The "government control of the internet" solution sticks out like a sore thumb. It shows how readily politicians go to donor desires for the answer to a crisis. Of all the possible responses, that one with government internet control was the one that fell out of her mouth. The odds must have been a trillion to one that the "famous internet sentence" would come out unless you know she has said the same thing previously. How incredibly shallow and uncaring for the dead as a result of the terror attack. The only thing I can relate it to is the mindless "gun control" corporate media propaganda that popped up every time there was a BLM incident in the US when Obammy was in office. She just showed her hand, and unfortunately controlling violent islamic terrorism wasn't even in the deck. Just Wow.

GreatUncle's picture

Why did I feel this article was here today - 4 days ago I lost the internet and a whole host of other stuff because of the ISP Sky. Fox news to you fellow Americans so you are getting it soon also.

Now I got tired of all this (PS they can reprogram their router from the internet side) so I grabbed another modem a couple of months back and all incursions vanished.

Now a few days before this downtime received a call asking what make the router was. (kid you not). Then you are forced offline.

So you step through a massive upward network learning curve. Voila a new network in place from the attack better suited to the future I do believe.

ISP ADSL modem router -> My wireless router -> onto a subnet of all my devices.
Just DMZ your wireless router and make the ISP modem router a 2 connection device, then and me and no other. Remove all junk / potential stuff off their router it is not needed except to provide the interface.

Can you see if I rip the ISP ADSL modem router out my network still functions contained even without the internet. No access to them and its cool because learned this if you go to Sky ISP for say an OpenDNS lookup. They have positioned their DNS servers first and can choose to ignore or disregard any request you attempt from another DNS. The censorship and a monopoly is now in place.

To have any anonymity now with Sky / FoxNews you have to use Tor and a VPN anything else is pointless.

This software is cool too,

"ethernetape" on Linux you get to see the connections in a well kewl way. Found it when I was looking for a network diagnostics tool. If you can see that node it can see you get it?

Sorry for dragging on, was gagged for 4 days.

Dilluminati's picture

There was this general at Gettysburgh who has been the center of an argument for quite some time.  And the recent trend is to cast blame on the old narratives and rip down war memorials, but standing on the actual hill and looking down, can see why that moment defined history.  Ironically there has been an equal struggle about that sruggle which the South effectively and existentially lost by not taking the commanding heights.  The new commanding heights is the meme, the narrative, the information where even companies with no products exist based on that alone.  There is still a real world connection to cause and effect, and the desire to spin the past as eternal as Cicero if not older, but I'm glad I did turn in the CATV boxes at home and shut off the news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_S._Ewell

But what is UNDISPUTED is that not taking that commanding heights was the battle.

 

CatsPaw's picture

How many of the previous ideas of the Government have helped against terrorism? Thats what I though.

jmack's picture

Did you read the article in rolling stone, linked by drudge,  the author did a   piece on the manchester  charity concert and ended it by telling how he entered a note in his tablet or smartphone about how the helicopters were  circling, for his article, and was promptly questioned by police who explictly asked if he made notes about the helicopters... wtf?

Zero_2_Infinity's picture

Mrs. May, how many more Britons must die before you sever your unholy "alliance" with the criminal, misogynistic, inhuman and despotic terror organization known as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? Anything for a buck, you whore! And, if in fact you ever get around do doing same you might then consider severing relations with that other criminal institution know as the House of Windsor.