Trump Lawyer Jay Sekulow And Fox's Chris Wallace Have Testy Father's Day Exchange

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Trump attorney Jay Sekulow had a heated exchange with host Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday while discussing the President's June 16th tweet about being under investigation for firing former FBI Director James Comey.

When Wallace asked whether or not Trump was under investigation, Sekulow responded that the President had not been notified of any, and that his tweet was in response to a Washington Post article based on five anonymous sources who allegedly leaked to the paper.

Sekulow: Nothing's changed since James Comey said the President was not a target or a subject of investigation.


Wallace: Well, but, you don't know that he isn't under investigation now, do you.


Sekulow: No one's notified us that he is, so I can't read people's minds, but I can tell you this - we have not been notified that there is an investigation of the President of the United States.

Wallace then pushed Sekulow over why the President's tweet targeted deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein for 'telling him to fire' Comey, when Trump said in an NBC interview that he had planned to fire Comey well before meeting with the Deputy AG.

Sekulow: There is a constitutional issue when you have this scenario. The President made a determination based on consulted advice he decided ultimately he's the commander in chief - he gets to make that decision that James Comey had to go.

Here's where it gets spicy

In answering Wallace's question, Sekulow prefaced his response with "Here's the constitutional threshold question," which Wallace interpreted as an admission of an investigation:

Here's the constitutional threshold question Chris - the President takes action based on numerous events, including recommendations from his Attorney General and the deputy Attorney General's office. He takes the action that they recommended, and now he's being investigated by the Department of Justice...  So he's being investigated for taking the action that the AG and deputy AG recommended him to take, by the agency who recommended the termination. So that's the constitutional threshold question here.

Wallace jumped on Sekulow like a bespectacled vulture:

Wallace: You just said that he's being investigated.

Sekulow: No, Chris... Let me be crystal clear so you completely understand. We have not received nor are we aware of any investigation of the President of the United States. Period.


Wallace: Sir you just said two times that he's being investigated!

Sekulow: No... I just gave you the legal theory, Chris, of how the constitution works. If in fact it was correct that the President was being investigated, he would be investigated for taking action that an agency told him to take. So that is protected under the constitution as his article 1 power. That's all I said, so I appreciate you trying to re-phrase it.


Wallace: Jay, the tape will speak for itself. You said that he is being investigated. And its' not just being investigated for firing Comey, there's also the question of what he said to Comey when Comey was still the FBI Director.


Sekulow: Chris, let me be clear. You asked me a question about what the President's tweet was... that's what you asked me. And I responded to what that legal theory would be. So I do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth when I've been crystal clear that the President is not and has not been under investigation. I don't think I could be any clearer than that.

Wallace and Sekulow then sparred over whether or not Assistant AG Rod Rosenstein should recuse himself based on "constitutional theory."

Does the President think that Rosenstein - because you talked about this 'constitutional theory' that he took action on the advice of Rosenstein. Does he think that Rosenstein should recuse himself? And is he laying the groundwork to fire Rosenstein and Mueller?

Sekulow: Chris - let me tell you one thing about the 'Constitutional Theroy" as you call it. It's actually called the Constitution.

Wallace: You do call it Constitutional Theory sir.


Sekulow: Yeah, it is a Constitutional theory based on the Constitution. Not 'so-called'... it's part of the Constitution. Here's what you're trying to do Chris...


Wallace: Now you're reading minds again! ...don't tell me what I'm trying to do because you don't know what I'm trying to do. Actually what I'm trying to get is a straight answer out of you.


Wallace then shifts the conversation to indictment, asking Sekulow whether or not the President thinks he can be indicted.

Wallace: As a matter of law, does the President think he can be indicted?


Sekulow: The President can't be indicted under the Constitution for the activities alleged in something like this. Of course not.


Wallace: Why is that?


Sekulow: Because there's not an investigation!


Wallace: Oh boy. This is weird. You don't know if there's an investigation.

President's Tweets

Wallace: Do you think he should stop tweeting about this case?


Sekulow: The President has changed the way in which engagement goes on. You've got great ratings, no doubt about it Chris - but let's face it; the President speaks to 107 million people through social media platforms. He revolutionized the election process by utilizing media in a different way.


Nothing that he's tweeted is causing me any issues whatsoever at his point - nothing.

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hootowl's picture

Both of these men are Joos, Jay is supposed to be a Messianic Jew, so he should have more veracity than the duplicitous Mike Wallace Khazarian Spawn ensconced in the pernicious FauxNews stable.

I have never trusted Chris Wallace.  He and the unabashedly gay Shep Smith are Liberal/progressive plants prentending to be unbiased reporters.  FauxNews is and should be in a death spiral.  The rest of the FauxNews stable are scripted dead-heads trying to pay their mortgages and alimonies.


Most FauxNews script-reading putative journalists simply spend their days propounding their assigned, scripted, positions, argumentively, on what their adolescent program producers read on "the drudge report".


Hannity is muzzled, but needs to pay for his mortgage and his airplane. 


Tucker Carlson presents the viewers with morons and idiots who propound stupid indefensible positions so he can appear intelligent and clever.  .....A daily staged and ludricous program.

Arrest Hillary's picture

In Mexico, some women are snarkily tagged (especially by other women) with the description "catadora de penes" .... judge, expert, taste tester .... of penises .... you, my friend, are a "catador de Judios" .... an expert catagorizer of Joos ?

Arrest Hillary's picture

Chris Wallace lost .... decisively .... the closet fucking libtard he is ?

numapepi's picture

The elite want desperately for Trump to stop tweeting to the people... so they can reassert their control over the narrative and message.

DuneCreature's picture

Update 6/19/2017 AM EST - Latest on George Webb:


~~~)))*** Here Comes The Mobile Attorney Attack Force! .. Bugler Forward! ... Mount Up! ***(((~~~

This is where The Saga of George Webb (c) is going to get really interesting. .......... I may have to track down daDune my adopted half-brother who once commanded a Behind the Enemy Lines (tm) guerrilla mobile attorney attack force himself for a few tactical pointers.

So George announces this morning he is going to sue the FBI and FBI contractor(s) for illegally defaming, wiretapping and targeting him to the tune of a hundred million USD.

Alright! ..This could be the start of a counter offensive that could clean a few bands of Evil Pirates out of some rat nests and safe harbor Federal buildings in and around DC.

Rally on George, you hungry lawyers out there. .. A slot on this battle roster could be a fine feather in your war bonnet and fatten your bank account handsomely. ..... There is danger in the assignment too, so this is a job for the daDunes and Fearless Leader Mosby (tm) type of barristers out there.

Day 240.01 =
` (George goes on the offensive - Lawyer up, Comey, McCabe, Sessions and Lynch. (My guesses) ...... More Webb vs. *named defendants forthcoming*.)

Day 240.02 =
` (It sounds like others are calling out the attack attorneys also. An Ohio lawsuit against a half a dozen opioid manufactures. ... Oh boy, a suit calling out Big Fat Pharma could drag on for years. .. Lots of ODs can happen in that amount of time. .. And time is money in the world of litigation. .. The lawyers like to stretch the timeframe out a lot. .. Some make a lot of money and others lose a lot of money. .. The question is; Which side pays the huge bill. Eeeeeyikes, have your ducks in line when you march them into a court room.)

Day 240.03 =
` (Off to pow-wow with and recruit attack attorneys - Crowd Source -The Counter Offensive Attack Lawsuit (c). ...... I'm in, George. .. Where do I send my dollars? ... Do I bring my own horse?

Day 240.04 =
` (Let's start with Attorney Cliff Arnebeck.)

Day 240.05 =

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Vardaman's picture

Mike Savage always likes to remind us that the guy's name is Wallichinsky.  That should play well here...

Catullus's picture

This was an re-enactment of a high school debate right?

PleasedToMeatYou's picture

Sekulow conceded WAAAAYYY too much control in that conversation to Wallace.  He let Wallace drive that agenda, and if Sekulow was representing me, I would fire him for that performance. 

shutterbug's picture

Wallace always had a problem to understand .... he has probably a democrat inside somewhere.

A real reporter or journalist ... he is not.

Thom Paine's picture

Wallace is a has been struggling to stay relevant.

But he is out of the game now, they ought to replace him someone a bit sharper and intelligent.

His interview here was totally pointless.

Great way to waste an opportunity Wallace you dim wit.

ANiceDepolorable's picture

Trump is the one person in the USA who can not be indicted (unless first impeached and removed), and the only one with pardon power over any and all Federal offenses, and with the plenary power to weild prosecutoral discretion.  Yeah, a lot of the rules really don't apply to the President, by design.

Further, Wallace presumes that Trump isn't POTUS, with those powers and immunities.  In reality, Trump can do anything he wants unless 1/2 of the House and 2/3 of the Senate impeach and remove him. 

Wallace is totally and completely "swamp" and just loves the status quo where he makes millions a year to sit in front of cameras.  If the swamp is drained, he might have to get a real job.

LOL123's picture

Wallace must be a little dense. I understood perfectly what the attorney said.

Repeatedly... Trump is not under investigation. In theory IF he was he couldn't be because he was taking the advise from his advisors who suggested he fire him but he's not under investigation so the question and theory is made null and ineffect by both theory and not being under investigation ... Crystal clear in my book.

Kefeer's picture

Jay Sekulow eats people like Wallace as a snack.

Antivenom's picture

And from Jay's facial expression...Chris was quite shitty tasting...

Barrock's picture

It seems like I'm watching CNN whenever I watch Chris Wallace.  

hootowl's picture

Why do you watch the FauxNew pretend party.  The Liberal/progressive Murdochian News network is in a death spiral.

Check out OneNewsNetwork for more down to earth news.

SoDamnMad's picture

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww  You mean a bookend to Wolf Blitzer or Becky "staged" Andersen.

deoxy's picture

Project Mockingbird. Propaganda news. Now it even infects FoxNews.

Rockwell's picture

I've stopped watching Sunday news shows. Fuck all of them. Fuck especially Wallace.

squid's picture

Fuck wallace is an ass.



goober's picture

Wallace and D Perrino are both clueless naive fools. Both have been doing their best to waylay Trump and try to appear not to be doing so the entire time before the election as well. Notice neither ever seriously mention the deep state apparatus that is well past enttenched here ein USA . They are simpy status quo shills and RINO supporters. Perrino is a die hard Bushite and will never speak about her bosses part in 9/11. I consider both and a few more at FOX completely worthless and irrelevant fools and tools .

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

you could add that wheelchair your is now an occupied MSM op of lies and propaganda..they are now with the dark side

Rubicon76's picture

Oooh I hate that no-personality, establishment water carrying, bitch.  I wish just once someone would slap her down (figuratively), especially when she gets to bragging about the Bush years.

Hammer of Light's picture

Sunday evening ewww gross media rant! ~ Chris Wallace, what a filthy rotted COCK!

How could anyone watch this vomit on Fox or Cnn or read any of the garbage coming from these people who in my opinion should all be flatly executed and lets get this muthafrackin 1776 2.0 kicked off already!

This nation is NOT under US control that much is for damned certain. Time to go on an old fashion sanitization and wipe out all the media, the entire apparatus starting in Langley and ending in Md with those deeps state fuckers the NSA what have all turned on us all.

It's sickening to even look at the web anymore. My United States is a gaggle of pure 100% proof VOMIT. It's sickening gross this Chris Wallace maggot and that Megan Kelley media whore, Anderson CIAFag boy Cooper on and on and on with these shills. Enough already. The zio-state is kicking off world war 3, we may as well get our licks in while we are still alive to do it. 

I'd say the best place for ALL US Media and all of our alphabet soup agencies is in front of a firing squad and spare not a single damned one of them. Simply GROSS what my country has become. Fuck my agency's and fuck all the media to their government agency cock sucking doom!

I've literally had enough. I'm voting with my fiat and gold and hitting the exit on this shit permanently. Far too many good places to live outside the US and I don't need to keep my passport. Too many I can buy. Trumps not going to do jack shit other than get himself whacked by the deep state motherfuckers in CIA or NSA or most likely the FBI colluding with all agency's I don't trust these cock sucking diseased spying on all of us bastards one damned bit.

Hey Chris Wallace - you suck fucking dick you're such a lousy reporter with ZERO INTEGRITY you fucking scumbag liar. All these media whores are nothing but an op period. CABLE GONE - check! Next on my off list is all websites that even utter politics and news. It's just too gross to even look at what my country and world have become. Please if there is a God, NUKE THIS FUCKING PLANET TO ITS DEATH. WE ALL deserve every inch of it. Leave it to the next specie. Hopefully dinosaurs, at least they had a system where the world flourished based on natural law for about a billion years. Damned asteroid wrecked it all and brought me into this horrid filthy shit.

My vote... give it all back to the dinosaurs! hahahaha it's all a madhouse... madhoooouuusssse... Chuck Heston Planet of the Apes ~

Berspankme's picture

Wallace is an establishment prick. Fuck him, fuck faux news. Donald should stop wasting time with these asswipes.

SummerSausage's picture

Distinguished Author: It was a Dickensian piece...

Wallace: Oooh. You said dick!


Trump should shit can this fool.

Reaper's picture

Wallace is a Deep state's apologist. Sekulow is full of sound and fury which will fail to change any minds on the DC Appeals Court (4R versus 7D).

esum's picture


shimmy's picture

Sounds like a typical slimy lawyer. I expect tomorrow we will indeed have confirmation he is being investigated and everything this lawyer said will be shown for what it is: lying bullshit. 

This guy does sound like he fits in perfectly with Trump where he can say something and be called out on it and then somehow spin it to say he didn't say it. 

I am curious why Trump continually jumps on every story the media puts out acting like it is fact while continually saying they peddle fake news....and hen when he (or his people) gets asked about it later, he says it is bullshit. 

I'm also tired of the 107 million people on social media shit. I'm guessing that many/most of the people who follow him on say FB and Twitter are the same so it's not 107 million people. 

shutterbug's picture

Don't have children ... they would need to be educated and cared for, and you can't deliver that service because you are a walking dead aka zombie.

ConanTheContrarian1's picture

Shimmy, my thought about Trump is that his tweets are designed for the information/disinformation war currently in progress, so of course he will respond to the "facts" (all anonymously attributed) published by the Left Wing Media. As far as Sekulow being slimy, I think Chris Wallace was the slimey one. Sekulow responded to one question of Trump being under investigation in the paradigm of "if this report is true, then....", and Wallace then tried to say he'd just admitted that Trump is under investigation because he spoke as if it were true. Same with others, I'm not wasting my time to go back and get the specifics. Wallace is a liberal plant in Fox News, and is currying favor with the Murdoch sons by being even more partisan than before.

bamawatson's picture

"I expect tomorrow we will indeed have confirmation he is being investigated and everything this lawyer said will be shown for what it is: lying bullshit"

i'll book that bet ASSHOLE ! back it up you chickenshit babbler

numapepi's picture

Why not address what Sekulow said rather than what he alluded to?

Sekulow said... "We have not received nor are we aware of any investigation of the President of the United States. Period."

They were talking about the media's report Trump is under investigation based on anonymous sources. Comey testifieyd under oath that Trump was not being investigated. Of course the elite are not held to the same standards of honesty you or I are, so that could have been a lie.

If in fact Trump is under investigation, and has not been notified, Sekulow's words are still absolute truth. Unlike, say, I did not have sexual relations with that woman... or, Benghazi was due to an internet video.

sacredfire's picture

I have never felt that Fox news was anything but MSM, I have thought of Fox news commetaries as somewhat conservative Chris would be at home on NBC.

Dickweed Wang's picture

I have never felt that Fox news was anything but MSM . . .


Make no mistake about it . . . Faux Neus is just the right arm of the exact same body that the other MSM outlets are the left arm of.  In the end they support things that are not in the interests of everyday people.  Blind support for the illegal state of Israhell is a prime example.

DuneCreature's picture

I believe the Trump Impeachment Circus (tm) may be cover for a bank robbery in progress that all of the clowns in the circus ring are trying to divert all attention away from.

That and to smother all mention of past crimes under the howls of indignation and cries for Russian blood and Trump conviction and lynching. ............ Nothing will come of the circus except a bunch of filthy rich lawyers will become filthier and richer.

The Depp State told Chris and Jay to get out there and make a lot of noise. .. They are lighting the fuse to blow the vault now.

Put on a good show boys!

Might even be cover for this cluster of capers:


```))) Prying Information Out Of Or Into The US Dot Gov May Require A Large Wench Tool Or A Super Bitch Puller (((````

Day 239.01 =
` (Threat warnings or tips about intelligence leaks, thefts or give-a-ways seem to be hard to transmit to dot gov receiver stations. Maybe with all the cell tower Stingray tapping and eavesdropping the government is doing they have the airways and phone lines 'Jammed Up And Jelly Tight' (tm) all day watching us Potential Domestic Terrorists (tm) and don't have time for the real thing.

The Diplomatic Pooch has grown too big for the kennel.

Hot cargo and Spent Fool (tm) in bulk may be coming into the country hidden under the blanket of diplomatic immunity. ... USC&BP and Congress needs a heads up but it is hard to get past the guard bitch at the door to deliver a diligent citizen's Comm-U-Knee-K.

Day 239.02 =
` (The Stupid Meter (tm) indicator needle is bouncing off of the 100% stop. ...... The Secure Cargo Intuitive? ... Ya know every time the word 'Intuitive' come from in or around dot gov I get golden goose bumps because I know some one is getting robbed, molested or kidnapped. .. Some contractor crony or bankster asshole is getting richer and We The People are losing a little more control of our lives.

We need a "We The People - Open Government And Sunshine Intuitive" and back that intuitive up with pitchforks and rope.

Day 239.03 =
` (Maersk Memphis bolted out of the Port of Charlotte SC and rendezvous with the Maersk Anna to transfer four sea containers AT SEA? ...... WTF? ... And where is the Maersk Anna going next?

Are some of the Awan Brothers 'phantom GSA IT employees'? .. Weirder things have happened and been charged to the taxpayers account.

With Greedy Goof Balls (tm) in charge on The Hill nothing surprises me. ... Nothing! ... Nothing! ... Nothing!


The George Webb - Jason Goodman Drama Report =
(CNN couldn't find a accurate news story if it was taped to inside the lid of their little Sponge Bob Square Pants lunch boxes.)

More Information about Diplomatic Pouches and Maersk Shipping Lines:

Diplomatic Cargo - take 3 =

Timing and promptly following up on these leads is Crowd Source Mission Critical (tm) folks. .. (One of the reasons I am making myself such a pest with my GW posts here)

Note - Preparing a 'Chain of Evidence' advice from George.

Note - Learn about the Chain of Custody of evidence too and documenting the source. ... My own advice, BTW.

Note - Learn about Legal Discovery and what sort of things can be subpoenaed once a case is opened (defendant charged) or lawsuit formally filed.

Note - Oh, and learn to ignore The Confusion Trolls (tm) .. Something ZHers know all about! ..LOL!

Listen to the video and take notes on the names, places, dates and equipment mentioned if you can help.

Some funding possibilities for Crowd Source the Truth ... A Fact of Life Necessary Evil (tm) ... or just a fact of life for truth and freedom. ... The enemy Evil Cut-Throat Pirates have massive funding that we hand them too. .........It takes gold to battle gold.

Take Two - (Hey! .. Not my video label!) =

Timing, timing, timing. .......... Real time is a super bitch. (A Super Bitch Puller is sometimes required to get her to leave. .. Think Mother-In-Law here.

A little more info on the frame-up JTTF ambush and George's 'Sleeping in his truck without a permit' charge.

The Court System Mine Field (tm) .... Anti-personnel AND HD anti-tank mines galore. ...... These are not IEDs either. .. This is your court and legal system fleecing and stealing from We The People and all of the booty traps, man killers and maiming devices are factory built and used nationwide. ........ And cops and judges wonder why all the little people hate their guts. (Good guys, my ass, they are pirates, thieves and crooks and they all know it.)

Pakis doing the scanning of sea shipping containers in US Ports Of Entries from inside Pakistan via a secure network? .. WTF? .. We are out sourcing our mission critical security jobs to a known Terrorist Haven Country (tm)?? .... No shit, someone double-check me and tell me I heard that wrong. Please!

You couldn't make a more stupid plot up and sell it to an Action Hero Comic Book Co. .......... but here we, are living in Greedy Stupid Goof Balls (tm) are running our nation land. ....

No wonder everyone wants to stay medicated.


Live Hard, If A Precision Well-Calibrated Tool Won't Quite Get The Job Done,......Use A Bigger Badder HAMMER, Die Free

~ DC v6.5

SAE6065's picture

Jammed up and Jelly tight is a great tune. Fits in too what's happening in this bullshit investigation. 



goober's picture

The Trump impeachment and Russia circus is a giant distraction from their own crimes. Simple as that.  Both the DEMs and their deep state surrogates. Nothing new in USA for the elite control freaks we call our governmenrt.

doctor10's picture

there's a damn good reason somewhere that all of a sudden the Communist Liberal Democrat Party has suddenly started singing like Senator Joe McCarthy and Brother John Birch since they lost the election.

Hopefully they won't 911 Capitol Hill before we get to the bottom of it all....

goober's picture

that may well be the best solution ?

FIAT CON's picture

Truth is stranger trhan fiction... Would it be too far out of reach for a bunch of .gov/elites to think that since they control the law and everything else, why could'nt they steel, lie, cheat there way into money at the expense of the people?

Far less connected people have tried similar cheats.

One thing for sure is the Trump accusations are a mere distraction from the criminality of the truth.

THORAX's picture

A tenacious citizenry is their sum of all fears!

Smedley's Butler's picture

Don't have too much of an opinion on Wallace. I can say that of all the debate moderators in the 2016 eleciton his was the only balanced one.

Sekulow tho, Whoa!, what happens to these people once they start representing the President? He was nails and a great layman for the issues before today. I wouldn't say he fucked up today, but that was not the same sharp debater I have been watching for months defend the President. Wallace eeeeeasily got him off balance.

Must be a hell of a job defending that guy- look what happened to Conway and Spicer for the first few months, liberal media sharks ate them alive. Oh well, that's the price they pay to allow Trump to also keep the media off balance.

Circus Maximus

Paul Kersey's picture

"Whoa!, what happens to these people once they start representing the President?"

Trump uses them, and then he throws them under the bus. The bodies are are starting to pile up. But the money changing Goldmanites, like Cohn, Kushner and Mnuchin, still rule his roost while they line their cronies' pockets.

Dickweed Wang's picture

. . . Goldmanites, like Cohn, Kushner and Mnuchin . . .


And what affiliation do all of those have in common, pray tell?? Wake up people . . .

hootowl's picture

The Khazarian/Persian Synagogue of Satan!!!