One Ohio Politician Has A Simple Solution To The Overdose Problem: Let Addicts Die

Tyler Durden's picture

Across the country, opioids killed more than 33,000 people in 2015, more than any year on record, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

As we have noted numerous times, the epidemic is ravaging populations across racial and socioeconomic lines, according to The Post's Joel Achenbach and Dan Keating. Spurred by overdoses, the death rate for Americans rose 8 percent between 2010 and 2015.

And Ohio and other Rust Belt states are at the center of the epidemic. Opioid-related deaths in Ohio jumped from 296 in 2003 to 2,590 in 2015 — a 775 percent jump, according to the Ohio Department of Health.

There's also an economic toll: One study estimated that the cost of the prescription drug opioid epidemic costs American society $78.5 billion.

And one Ohio city council member has a solution...

As The Washington Post reports, under a new plan, people who dial 911 seeking help for someone who's overdosing on opioids may start hearing something new from dispatchers: “No.”

In response to the opioid epidemic that swept the nation — including the small city of Middletown, population 50,000 — council member Dan Picard has floated an idea that has been called more of “a cry of frustration” than a legitimate solution.

 

At a council meeting last week, Picard proposed a three-strikes-style policy for people who repeatedly overdose: Too many overdoses and authorities wouldn't send an ambulance to resuscitate them.

 

Picard told The Washington Post that he sympathizes with anyone who has lost someone to drug abuse, but said that responding to an ever-increasing number of overdose calls threatens to bleed his city dry.

 

“It’s not a proposal to solve the drug problem,” Picard said this week. “My proposal is in regard to the financial survivability of our city. If we’re spending $2 million this year and $4 million next year and $6 million after that, we’re in trouble. We’re going to have to start laying off. We're going to have to raise taxes.”

The proposal also calls for the city to create a database of overdose victims who paramedics have responded to.

“We'll have that list and when we get a call, the dispatcher will ask who is the person who has overdosed,” Picard said.

 

“And if it's someone who has already been provided services twice, we'll advise them that we're not going to provide further services — and we will not send out an ambulance.”

Solutions, Picard told The Post, require out-of-the-box thinking.

Still, he said he has received dozens of angry emails, phone calls and Facebook messages as news of his proposal spread.

But he said his worst critics don't understand how bad the heroin problem has gotten in his community — with no sign of abating.

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ShrNfr's picture

I would make every 20th bag a "Special Value Meal".

Cman5000's picture

Not Economically Viable.

gilhgvc's picture

Elect this guy President...

JLM's picture

Society makes these kinds of decisions all the time based on cost.  Your plane goes down, they will search till the predetermined amount they are willing to spend is exhausted and then they simply stop.  Same as when to install a traffic light based on cost of accidents and number of deaths.  There is only so much money to spend and there has to be an adult in the room.  Granted this is not a nice situation in which to be so obvious about it.  

gilhgvc's picture

Look folks, my younger brother died from drug abuse...I still love him and miss him dearly...BUT it was his own damn fault.

Apocalicious's picture

Sorry for your loss, and appreciate your perspective. 

FubarNation's picture

Problem solved.  

Two Theives and a Liar's picture

My daughter is a licensed EMT in NJ. She told me they ran out of Narcan and have narcanned one.guy six times! 

Gee,  how did all that heroin wind up here? Take it away Geraldo:

https://youtu.be/AUATfLDiwVA

 

libtardhater's picture

I have been saying this ever since NARCAN became available as the antidote....DIE IDIOTS!!! I do not want my tax money paying for the resources to save these worthless morons that are the scumbags of society....

lasvegaspersona's picture

First, as a physician, I don't believe the opiod story is free of political bias. Secondly we are told these are not addicts dying, they are children who just get a hold of grandma's drugs. What is not said even in these cases is that opiods alone very rarely kill. The cesation of breathing, while on oral meds alone is very rare. It is usually a second respriatory depressant that contributes greatly....alcohol or tranqualizers (so called 'benzos').

Fianlly, the 'fight' really seems to be against pain relief. When even drugs like tramadol are included in the fight (it is not a true opiod and until recently was excluded from labeling). I'm callingBS on the whole thing as I expect I will never get a clear, honest response from those generals leading this war.

Xena fobe's picture

Something else that doesn't add up is why are people sudddenly ODing?  Was there no heroin or codeine available a few years ago? 

Another anomaly, people who regularly take prescribed opiates for chronic pain are not the ones ODing. 

Opiates taken to control pain are perfectly safe.  If you decide to take them recreationally, don't complain about consequences

We Are The Priests's picture

I had surgery on my hand on Monday and was given a big bottle (45 quick release caps) of Percocet 10/325 to take home with me.  I spent all day on Tuesday, high as a fucking kite, on ZH feverishly commenting on every article as soon as it appeared--apologies for any non-sensical jibberish that may have spewed forth.

Yesterday morning I woke up immediately jonesing for 3 or 4 of those tasty little white caps.  Now, I know I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I was at least able to recognize that if I gave into those urges it was going to be by choice; my choice, not the governments choice; not big pharma's choice; not King Nibiru's choice; my choice.

And what was the choice I had to make?  The choice between suffering some temporary discomfort or getting strung out on opioids.  But this choice was preceeded by another choice.  The one to have surgey on my hand; again, my choice.  So, I'm the one that caused the temporary discomfort I'm experiencing; not the government, not big pharma, not King Nibiru.

My point is this.  I fail to see how I could be justified in any outrage at anyone who refuses to come rushing to my aid for a choice I made to fuck my own shit up.

buzzkillb's picture

I didn't realize the problem until I talked to someone, an RN, who had surgery was saying they would not take the prescribed drugs. Then looked into the drugs a little more on why they said that. Doctors handing this stuff out like candy can't be good. Gateway drugs from the local drug dealer (doctor).

Benito_Camela's picture

Try kratom. I'm not kidding. The DEA is trying to criminalize it for their Big Pharma buddies for a reason: it works and it's nowhere near as addictive as that corporate poison being pushed on you. 

Apocalicious's picture

Yep, it's a self correcting problem and most countries get that.

MathWins's picture

My daughter is a parol officer in Ohio.  She mainly handles opiate and heroin addicts.  The successful treatment rate is near zero and she says it's very depressing to see so few successfuly fight their addictions. Better to never go down the road in the first place.  So sad.

ILIKEMITTENS's picture

One in one hundred. Thats the odds. Ninety nine of one hundred people who try heroin once die using it.

Question. Why is it such a big deal for these doctors to prescribe these people drugs instead of turning their backs. Forcing people to go to the streets for dope. They get paid REALLY good to simply write a script. Do they honestly think scoring smack on the corner is better? They created this god awful mess..... they should be working to fix the prior wrong, not just discounting, alienating, and criminalizing their former patients. There is no longer a prescription drug epidemic. No no no. Im sick of hearing that shit. There WAS, but nomore. Now its a full blown HEROIN epidemic. Of course just like anything else the elite ruling class control, they "fix" the problem by exaserbating it. Making it ten times as bad as it was under their primary care. Neglecting not only the addicts but the people who really do need pain management. These educated idiots will never be satisfied. Greed, arrogance, the feeling of being superior. Thats all that matters to them. Ussa is lost. The joooos are grinning. Ussa is crying.

InflammatoryResponse's picture

Perhaps your daughter can look into this place and replicate it up there?

 

they have  a very high success rate.

 

 

http://www.thehealingplace.org/how-it-works/

RhoneGSM's picture

Quiz time:

Which of these statements continues to be believed by the masses:

Mental Illness is surely demonic possession.

Solution- exorcism, failing that, burn at stake.

Addiction is Moral Weakness.

Solution- Kick them to the curb & let them die.

Let's check back in 10 years as we learn more about the brain.

Bernie Madolf's picture

Whoever controls the Spice, controls the Universe!

Bernie Madolf's picture

why does posting from phone tend to double post?

mrtoad's picture

How about stopping donations from the murderous lying pharmaceutical industry. That would be a start.

LawsofPhysics's picture

As cold as that sounds, at some point we must allow there to be real consequences for bad behavior...

...the same applies to all corporate managment and POLITICIANS!!!!

aliens is here's picture

Yeah yeah, I know it's mean but it's not a bad idea. If you want OD and die who am I to stop you. Sorry.

any_mouse's picture

Get the government out of people's lives.

Now let's come up with other ways to save Public money by having the government do nothing.

Dun_Dulind's picture

I got my kidney from an addict - at least they're good for something when they bite it.

Everybodys All American's picture

The real solution is for the you name it three character US agency to get the hell out of the drug import business rat line.

Malleus Maleficarum's picture

I'm all for natural selection, but as long as the state is the entity attempting to 'apply' it, it needs to be applied evenly: to alcoholics, smokers, the obese, the stupid, and so forth. If you get into trouble from making a bad choice, you're on your own. Heart attack because you're a lardass chain-smoker who chose to climb some stairs? On your own. You hit a telephone pole after choosing to take that pharmaceutical dope your doctor gave you? Tough shit! Choked on a chicken bone because you choose not to know when to stop eating? That sucks for you, hoss! Empathy and science are a bunch of horseshit, too, but everyone knows that... I'd really like to see something like Aktion T4 brought back, and I know a lot of the new readers here on the hedge would, too!

Ending the Drug War would go a long way toward solving some of these issues. Ending the warmongering and the mass-production and distribution by intelligence agencies of that opium which funds that warmongering would also help. Priorities. Kind of ridiculous when the people responsible for distributing this shit literally get to be POTUS, and the dumbasses caught with $100 worth of dope get buttraped by the state. Narcan autoinjectors cost next to nothing. Many doctors mandate their purchase for patients prescribed opioids. Making them available might help offest the cost of those $2000 ambulance rides. But if you chose to shoot smack, you ain't too bright. If you shoot smack alone, and without Narcan, you really ain't too bright and may indeed pay with your life!

CaptainObvious's picture

"I'm all for natural selection, but as long as the state is the entity attempting to 'apply' it, it needs to be applied evenly: to alcoholics, smokers, the obese, the stupid, and so forth. "

+1000

And I'm a smoker!  (Who plans to die from whatever smoking-related disease I get with no medical intervention that I can't pay for out of my own pocket.)

Spine of Ruprecht's picture

Live well.  Arturo Fuente Cohibas.

InflammatoryResponse's picture

I submit you aren't aware of how hard your death is going to be there sport.  My granmother sliced 20 plus years off her life.  The morphine at the end didn't help a whole lot.

 

 

OTOH,

 

you could call the quit line

 

1800 QUIT NOW

 

they have people on there that can get you on the path to quitting.  You have to be careful, but some of the pharmacotherapies to help you quit are very effective, but can pose some side effects.

 

you do have to want to quit though.

 

 

sirsmokum's picture

Free narcan, buddy system, unlimited free recovery resources. In the end after all that if they still die let them have what they want.

DrZipp's picture

Who pays for the free narrcan and unlimited free recovery resources?

Umh's picture

That is a good rhetorical question. Indirectly everyone pays. Even the addict pays in some small way with the money that goes to the government even if the money is paid by the addicts landlord or the other businesses the addict uses. The addicts are just another expense we all are sharing.

CoCosAB's picture

"ravaging populations across racial and socioeconomic lines"

 

Finally... An intelligent human animal.

I even give the discount of the 911 go help the 1st time... After that, no more support for irresponsible behaviour!

Spine of Ruprecht's picture

You forgot to include the part that said:

"and in doing so, Striker reveals a key element of the mystery — how “Jewish cooperation across different sectors” [my emphasis] achieved untold profits for them and untold misery for the goyim...."

 

Want to edit your post to include that?  Did people really read what he posted?

UselessEater's picture

A decent article that goes beyond blaming the addict...instead looks at the degredation of white society and communities (((by design))) from NAFTA taking jobs away to medical prescriptions...

https://www.darkmoon.me/2017/opiates-death-on-the-prescription-plan/

LD: I can hardly praise this article enough or overestimate its importance. It is the first of three such articles on the subject of Big Pharma and the opiate addiction epidemic it has irresponsibly unleashed in America under the influence of organized Jewry in the form of the oligarchic Sackler family. This is Edmund Connelly at his best. We are taken right into the heart of darkness here. You owe it to yourselves and your families to acquaint yourself with the grim facts of this man-made epidemic if only for this reason: your own survival and happiness depend upon it.

...
Striker traces Sackler’s efforts to break down medical resistance, and in doing so, Striker reveals a key element of the mystery — how “Jewish cooperation across different sectors” [my emphasis] achieved untold profits for them and untold misery for the goyim....

...The result: “Suddenly, giving out OxyContin like it’s ice cream became the norm. The few honest medical practitioners who got in the way were hopelessly silenced and crushed. The expansion of opiate use geared specifically at White workers and the middle class was mandated down the private and public chain of medical command.”

.."LD: White American workers and the middle classes are deliberately hooked on this killer drug. The Sassoon family (Iraqi Jewish settlers in England) got hundreds of millions of Chinese people hooked on opium in the 19th century on behalf of the British Empire’s East India Company. (See here). Today, exactly the same thing is being done by the oligarchic Sackler family to millions of vulnerable Americans on behalf of Big Pharma. (LD)"

thisguyoverhere's picture

Very good, keep posting truth like this

Spine of Ruprecht's picture

Very fucking obvious.  There are a lot of people who know me and my reference to our drug problems as the New Opium War.

But it's a very old problem, and none of my ideas (or yours) are original.  America had a huge problem with Cocaine in the early 20th century, for instance.

The Pharmacopia used to be a book of herbal remedies.  I think most of us know all that, and you come along preaching as though yer the originator of it all?

 

What a pompous fuck.  And we get the Joo story from you too?

the6thBook's picture

How about ending all the government funded methodone clinics?  If rehab is only working 20% of the time, what good is it?  How many of that 20% are people that hit rock bottom and would of quit anyway?

Nutin_nice's picture

Recently in a small town in my state paramedics were unable to respond to a head injury on little league baseball field because they had 3 overdoses happening at same time. The police had to transport 12 year old baseball player to hospital. So I say they want to do drugs then let them die when they OD

Spine of Ruprecht's picture

Allowing folks to have 2 near-death experiences seems generous.  I thought the mayor was striking a compassionate balance.

not a yahoo's picture

I think that hits the nail. All these state services are meant as insurance against unforeseen circumstances, not intentional. They all need to be much more strictly rationed to that meaning, and denied to anyone intentionally putting themselves into these situations. While intent is hard to prove, simple statistics (repeated incidence) is as good as proof and even if you don't accept that, you can accept the responsibility that comes with a repeat rule.

Heroic Couplet's picture

As long as we account for Republican gun legislation and its contribution to rising health care costs and insurance rates, in the wake of the GOP rep from Louisiana Scalise and his extended ICU stay. If the GOP and the banksters want to use the Constitution to sell 21st century weapons and ammunition, they have an obligation to forfeit 21st century medical practices in favor of 18th century medical practices. If you want to have military weapons in a civilian setting, do NOT run up medical costs if you get your butt shot off.

How to measure the GOP cowardice: Where is NRA head Wayne LaPierre? no place to be found.

Dr. Engali's picture

Uhmmm, we're talking about addicts. Stay on topic and say no to drugs.

thisguyoverhere's picture

I remember as a young man coming accross this moral concept:

1. Judge not or you too will be judged.

2. A person who intentionally leads others down the road to death or moral decay has committed a greater harm than the person who follows into that moral decay.

Now, these are just words and words CANNOT describe the loss of potential and human life caused by artificial and natural opioids.

This guy from Ohio, this 'servant of the people' says, "let'm die". I'd strap that SOB down, pump him full of the opiods and then have a 'constructive' conversation with that skin bag. He likely pays for his lavish lifestyle with bribes from Big Pharma.

What a $hitbag, shame on you Ohio.

But 'thisguy' I beat pain meds why can't they? When will you realize that you, for whatever reason were spared addiction and certain death? All the more your compassion and moral outrage at a system that throws away human life.

Through war, abortion, the prison industrial complex, 'medical' system and pharmacide they extract money and deliver death. Wake up, check your hubris.

Spine of Ruprecht's picture

What is it that many Americans don't understand about the phrase "No Money"?

We ain't got the money, honey.  That's the reality of it.  I wish I didn't have to work for a living.  I wish I could light up my percolating bong.  But I have to make a living.

 

Shit has to be paid for.  Jesus taught that when he held up the coinage with Ceasar's image on it.  He told parables that were frequently about planning and money.

 

The mayor didn't say "let'm die".  That is a warping of his words that were more like, "After two tries, we can't help you.  We have finite social resources." 

thisguyoverhere's picture

You have 'finite' resources? Sure chief, plenty of money for tools of death, no time to look at what drives it?

Come on man, think. Clearly giving people detox and rehab for free doesn't pan out BUT you can't fight the epidemic when the corporations making the drugs operate nearly tax free and indemnified from prosecution.

PitBullsRule's picture

Hey Asshole, not only are our resources finite, we have a 20 Trillion dollar debt.  We don't have any money to chase around addicts and try to change their ways, they need to disappear, and so does your stupid thinking.

msamour's picture

So what money are you really talking about? The one that the Fed prints out of thin air? The one that your country owes to Japan, China, Other countries, which owes money to other countries as well? Don't you know by now the entire money scheme was a ploy to convert resources into tiny bits of paper they can trick you with? What happens if you take a trillion dollars and you burn it? Does 1 trillion dollars worth of resources suddenly disappear? 

You have been conned all your life...