Chinese Billionaire Warns America: China Has Over 20,000 Spies Who Are "Ready To Destroy The U.S."

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Since the 1980’s, the US has caught and imprisoned over a dozen people who were spying on American government agencies and corporations. So we catch Chinese spies once every few years. With that kind of frequency, you’d probably assume that China doesn’t have that many intelligence assets in America at any given time. Based on those numbers, a safe estimate would be in the hundreds, or perhaps thousands.

But it turns out that those estimates would be incredible low. According to Guo Wengui, a billionaire investor who has fled China and moved to New York since becoming a major critic of the Chinese regime, there are probably 25,000 spies in America who are working for Beijing.

Those numbers are derived from what he claims, are his close ties to multiple Chinese intelligence agencies. That may sound far fetched to most Americans, but in China the public and private sectors are closely aligned. They’re practically the same entity. So we should take his warnings very seriously, which were brought up in a recent interview with The Freebeacon.

Guo said that Chinese intelligence operations in the United States sharply increased after the 2012 Communist Party Congress that brought current leader Xi Jinping to power.


“Before 2012, cumulatively China had around 10,000 to 20,000 agents working in the United States,” he said. “These agents had been sent to work in the United States over a 50 year period of time, and they were working in a defensive mode.”


According to the businessman, defensive intelligence was mainly focused on learning about the United States. The operations then shifted in 2012 to “offensive” spying, he said.


By offensive [operations], I mean to be ready to destroy the U.S. in ways they can,” Guo said.

And these spies don’t just consist of Chinese immigrants. According to Guo, many of them are treasonous Americans who have sold their country out for a paycheck, and they can be ruthless.

China’s budget for intelligence gathering before 2012 was around $600 million annually.


Around 2012, a decision was made by Chinese leaders to dispatch another 5,000 spies to the United States. “Some of them were sent as students, some as businessmen, and some as immigrants, but all together, 5,000,” Guo said.


“In addition to that, they developed between 15,000 to 18,000 other spies, and these are not directly sent but these are developed within the United States.”


The recruited agents are not limited to Asians and Chinese-Americans but include all ethnic groups, including Hispanics, Blacks, and Caucasians.


“And now the budget is between $3 billion to $4 billion annually, and this is information up to one month ago,” he said.


Guo said American counterintelligence agencies face several problems, mainly a lack of knowledge about Chinese intelligence agencies.


“You don’t know which organizations in China are responsible for sending these spies, how they are managed, and to what purpose,” he said. “And the U.S. adopts a very legalistic perspective to look at the question of spying. Yet, for China their methods are not what the United States understands.”


These spies, when they come to the United States, they could sleep around, they could put poison in your glass of wine to kill you; completely unscrupulous,” he said.

As for their goals, Guo claims that the spies are mainly here to steal military technologies. But they’re also here to “buy” high level government officials, as well as political and corporate elites who can give China favorable business deals. And most what’s most frightening, is that these spies have implanted malicious software in our most critical infrastructure systems, and have thoroughly infiltrated our government’s major weapons suppliers.

Which raises an important question. How did our government let this happen? Isn’t the all powerful NSA surveillance grid capable of catching these people?

Apparently not. It appears that we’ve traded our freedom for security, but somewhere along the line we didn’t receive any security. While our government was busy funding and training the terrorists that would later inspire the acceptance of widespread government surveillance and the destruction of our civil liberties, they overlooked the flood of Chinese spies who have infiltrated every level of our society.

You could call it incompetence, but it could also be something far more sinister. As Joel Skousen has pointed out many times, our government is riddled with globalists who have a hidden agenda. They want to usher in another world war between the US, China, and Russia, which will bring about the destruction of America, and make way for a global government. As part of that plan, they have been undermining America at every turn in the hopes that our country will lose the war against China; a war which they are orchestrating. Perhaps as a part of that effort, they’ve been looking the other way as the Chinese government steals and compromises our infrastructure and advanced military technologies.

Whatever the case may be, if Guo is correct then America is a severely compromised nation that is in no position to fight another world war.

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AllTimeWhys's picture

Those damn Russians

HillaryOdor's picture

No this is ZH.  It's the Jews damnit.  Those goddamn Chinese Jews.   Don't you know everything is the fault of the Jews?

CheapBastard's picture

Build that Wall!

Actually, the best concept I have seen so far is one from Chinese architects.

Ramesees's picture

If there's a picture of Don with a hard hat on and a shovel in the dirt somewhere down in Texas by June 2018, the November election will be a Republican wave.  If that picture doesn't exist by then, it'll be a Republican wipeout.

Killtruck's picture

Pffff...see how long those unoriginal cunts last when they don't have the free market technology to steal and copy.

Besides, I could round up half of those spies by going through the phone book in LA and rounding up all of the Yins, Chins, Gis, Yangs and Xis. 

Done. Then just start sorting out all the other slants. Take about a week with Facebook pictures and facial recognition software.  

I mean...we have these DHS "camps" we're not using, right? 

HelluvaEngineer's picture

If you want to find the more recently deployed ones, go to any college.  My alma mater is covered up with them.  Many of them will go to work with goverment contractors building toys for the pentagon, or writing algorithms to spy on us all.  Brilliant.

froze25's picture

We're the Clintons counted in that 20,000?

Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

It only took one "agent" to hack Hillary(!)'s illegal server and download many, MANY, State secrets.

jackstraw001's picture

By offensive [operations], I mean to be ready to destroy the U.S. in ways they can,” Guo said.

Aren't the Dims/Repugs doing a good enough job of that on their own?  Just stand back and watch it happen.
espirit's picture

Haha, this is great disinfo for the Kool Aid drinkers.

Take away Chinese goods from Walmart and Amazon, the economy crashes.

They already own this, why destroy it?

Sonny Brakes's picture

Because Prostitution isn't for everyone.

Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

I wouldn't mind trying it. But no fat or old chicks.

froze25's picture

Take it away from China and the factories will just open in India.

Xena fobe's picture

One day soon.  Indians are much better to deal with anyway.

eforce's picture

Perhaps after Brexit if the UK can unfuck itself and beef up the Commonwealth and teach Indians how to use toilets, then maybe India can become the new sweatshop.

chumbawamba's picture

Wow, the Chinese are really that bad?


fbazzrea's picture

Monopoly money is no longer working for them. They've already swapped it for all the gold we had. 

Game over.

trulz4lulz's picture

Americans destroyed this place for them already, or at least our inability to upkeep it did. Teh Chinese will let it rot into the ground, revive the important infrastructure, repopulate valuable cities and turn America into a wholly owned and operated agrerian/industrail state. They will use this land to feed their families of Eastern China. This also endures that the Chinese dont over burden Russian agriculture.

Patriot Eke's picture

Only 20,000? Anyone who works in the profession will tell you that CI assumes every single Chinese person is a source.  They're all spies.

techpriest's picture

If they call back home to their mother, the Chinese government wiretaps it (they listen to everything, just like our NSA), so that would be a de facto source anyway.

combatsnoopy's picture

Just go to your nearest casino, gaming joint, shoe sale, property investment convention, gyno office/maternity ward in San Gabriel valley ...come on.  You suck at this.

jonjon831983's picture

You missed the part where this guy is claiming domestic "non-slant" assets have been developed that are ruthless. Human Intelligence Humint was claimed to be an aspect lost to the US services, replaced with sigint/technology.

Perhaps a decade ago an example provided was apparently some "CIA" agents running around like idiots in Italy running a job during broad  daylight were caught.


Certainly a possibility though of high numbers of "agents" (a spy could mean many things, not just "james bond"); I've heard somewhere back in the China homeland people looking to get a job/move out of the country could walk into a recruiting office and just offer their services.


However, these types of things are always in the mind. Terrorist "Sleeper Cells". That TV show about a Russian spy family living in the USA... etc etc etc

ACP's picture

20,000 commies ready to destroy the US? Is that in addition to the blm and antifa commies?

gaoptimize's picture

I'd like readers to consider the threat this might be to the power grid, given this:

Thoughful people think that a coordinated attack like this across the country could potentially send us back to the early 1800s.


Never One Roach's picture

I better stock up on Chinese food and ramen just in case they cut off the Chinese food supply.

HockeyFool's picture

You could stock up on digital $hitcoins too! They will be very useful once the power grid goes down.

espirit's picture

We got that covered.

Dogs, cats, and rats.

espirit's picture

... or a Supervolcano,

... or an Asteroid,

... or Bioterrorisms

Oh my, lions and tigers and bears...

Peak Finance's picture

The early 1800's ???

The gold standard?

Christian Commnitities?

Constutition still enforced?

No Fed / IRS? 

Sign me up please! 

GatorMcClusky's picture

The grid is one of those things that we take for granted. Without it:
No water (remember a lot of livestock depends on well water and some sort of forced air ventilation)
No toilet
No grocery stores
No A/C
No Hospitals
No Nursing homes
All of our enemies have thought of this.

We have a Simple Pump as a backup to a backup. Hope we never need it.

Twee Surgeon's picture

Don't forget La Raza. Who finances that little club ?

JB Say's picture

That's just university professors with tenure.

trulz4lulz's picture

No. Those groups are of western design and influance and have no bearing to eastern philosophy. they will be criminal orginisations. And rightly so. However, the lack of funding from the loss of their masters and finaciers will destroy them before any Chinese Soldier does.

cougar_w's picture

But is Don even a Republican? Seems like he's in the Trump Party and doesn't really care what happens to the GOP.

Déjà view's picture

Spies are all waiting on Walmart shelves as transformers ready to be brought home by American consumers...

Sound farfetched?

espirit's picture

We're gonna invade your Banana Republic!

Ok, what's taking so long?

just the tip's picture

well then that makes it even, because the GOP is anti-trump.

Snout the First's picture

1) I don't give a shit what happens to the GOP. Its the country I care about.

2) We have one party masquerading as two parties. Which is why the GOP hasn't done squat about killing Obamacare, and why Trump gets just as much opposition from republicans as from democrats.

factorypreset's picture

"Which raises an important question. How did our government let this happen? Isn’t the all powerful NSA surveillance grid capable of catching these people?

Apparently not. It appears that we’ve traded our freedom for security, but somewhere along the line we didn’t receive any security."


The last sentence couldn't be more spot-on. 

michelp's picture

"he's in the Trump Party and doesn't really care what happens to the GOP."

Works both ways.


funthea's picture

But is Don even a Republican? Seems like he's in the Trump Party and doesn't really care what happens to the GOP.  

Does it matter? I mean the GOP stopped being the GOP long ago.

Perimetr's picture

I am pretty sure at least half of them are graduate students majoring in statistics at US universities

who make up 95% of the grad students studying statistics, since US students are mostly taking business classes and diversity training.

Never One Roach's picture

My grad STEM classes were over half Chinese/Taiwanese and a few Russian and eastern european students.

I once asked a Chinese from Chendu how does she study since she can't understand the english lectures. She said with a straight face, "I just memorize the book and all the old exams."

Ever since that day I studied a whole lot harder.

techpriest's picture

Yes, that describes Chinese students to a T. I am glad I talked my wife out of a statistics major though - basically Chinese parents who are able to, browbeat their kids into studying 14 hours a day their entire youth, then take statistics, and finally gain access to a job in a bank. It's mostly enabled from a culture that worships degrees from big-name universities: "I have a Harvard degree" gives you instant credibility and celebrity over there. The closest American equivalent is people form Boston.

The problem is, The Chinese are creating a generation where the most intelligent kids are completely unable to cook or clean up after themselves, because either their parents or a maid did it for them. Also, the constant schooling gives these kids a completely one-dimensional personality that only knows desk work, and an inability to innovate (I can memorize the answers but I have no clue what any of it means).

I'm sure their PTBs did this because they want an obedient populace, but I think it will backfire because some of these kids are completely unable to take care of themselves, unless they make enough money to hire out basic living tasks. One good recession and the mask comes off. I teach English to some of these types of students, and truth be told, its hard to communicate the concept of "chilling out" or of most answers not being in textbooks.

meditate_vigorously's picture

If you think it matters which Oligarch team is in power, I have a bridge to sell you.

AllBentOutOfShape's picture

"According to Guo Wengui, a billionaire investor who has fled China and moved to New York since becoming a major critic of the Chinese regime, there are probably 25,000 spies in America who are working for Beijing."

Does anyone here seriously believe an oligarch that "fled" China would have such knowledge of Chinese intelligence operations? If so, I have two bridges to sell you.

It's much more plausible the CIA is paying this disgruntled oligarch to say such things to further demonize China and Xi Jinping to perhaps to give them some kind of justification to start arresting Chinese citizens, businessmen, and diplomats at any given time. That and perhaps an excuse for sanctions on Chinese officials.

lucitanian's picture

Or just more money into their already bulging coffers.

More and more I see the US being run on paranoia. Be afraid, be very afraid... everyone is your enemy, but all the aggression, destabilization, and threats, all the terrorism be it ISIS, regime changes in Ukraine, or missiles on the borders of Russia, or N. Korea with capacity to attack Russia and China, etc. seems to be traceable back to the US (or in the case of US plus ISIS Israel).

What reason would China have to destroy or attack the US? The US is still the goose laying many golden eggs and why star a war with the US.

And of course other countries monitor and spy in the US probably even friendly ones. Hell, the US was monitoring the German chancellors cell phones. What's game for Peter is game for Paul. So get over it.

The article ends " if Guo is correct then America is a severely compromised nation that is in no position to fight another world war"

I think Gau is full of BS, and of course the US has no reason and certainly is in no position to fight another world war.

Why doesn't the US take its military footprint out of everyone else's face and stop defining their interests globally and extraterritoriality and they might find it a more "secure" world?

But as long as so much debt and tax payers money can be made out of so called "defense" its not going to happen. So be afraid very afraid.

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

Don't mistake the comment section for ZeroHedge. One is not the other. The Tylers will beat down on any nail that sticks up.

Plus those who are registered to leave comments represents just a small fraction of the total readership. And the obviously biased and racists comments are left by a tiny fraction of those.

Take your broad brush and paint elsewhere.

HillaryOdor's picture

It's literally every article, except where they can't possibly blame the Jews, like this one.  Otherwise Bach and his crew are all over the place.  They all come out of the woodwork.  I know it's not the majority of readers.  The comment was in jest.  Get a sense of humor.  Seriously

new game's picture

admit it, they are superior. your envoy shows. lol.

they are in charge. they won the money game.

admit it. they own our asses in a big pic sense of the world.

and i'm ok with that.

either them or some other like type human(s).

simple shit maynard...