Elon Musk Unveils Apocalyptic Vision For The World

Tyler Durden's picture

Elon Musk is no stranger to futurecasting a foreboding dystopia ahead for mankind, as we noted recently. But during a  speech he gave today at the National Governors Association Summer Meeting in Rhode Island, Musk turned up the future-fearmongery amplifier to '11'.

As a reminder, in the past, when he was asked about whether humans are living inside a computer simulation, Musk made headlines last year by saying he thinks the chances are one in billions that we aren’t.

“The strongest argument for us probably being in a simulation I think is the following: 40 years ago we had Pong – two rectangles and a dot,” Musk stated.  


“That’s where we were. Now 40 years later we have photorealistic, 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously and it’s getting better every year. And soon we’ll have virtual reality, we’ll have augmented reality. If you assume any rate of improvement at all, then the games will become indistinguishable from reality, just indistinguishable.”

Here Musk is referring to the exponential growth of technology, the lynchpin of the Singularity theory. If in 40 years we’ve gone from the two-dimensional pong to the cusp of augmented and virtual reality, imagine where we’ll be in another forty, or a hundred, or 400. And that is where he began today...

But today, Musk discussed a broad range of topics from energy sources in the future...

"It's inevitable," Musk said, speaking of shift to sustainable energy. "But it matters if it happens sooner or later."


As for those pushing some other type of fusion, Musk notes that the sun is a giant fusion reactor in the sky. "It's really reliable," he said. "It comes up every day. if it doesn't we've got (other) problems)."

To Tesla's share price:

Musk said he has been on record several times as saying its stock price "is higher than we have any right to deserve" especially based on current and past performance.


"The stock price obviously reflects a lot of optimism on where we will be in the future," he said. "Those expectations sometimes get out of control. I hate disappointing people, I am trying really hard to meet those expectations."


Musk added that he won't be selling any stock "unless I have to for taxes," and said "I'm going down with the ship... I'll be the last [to sell]."

Musk addressed government regulation and incentives:

"It sure is important to get the rules right," Musk said. "Regulations are immortal. They never die unless somebody actually goes and kills them. A lot of times regulations can be put in place for all the right reasons but nobody goes back and kills them because they no longer make sense."


Musk also focused on the importance of incentives, saying whatever societies incentivize tends to be what happens. "It's economics 101," he said.

And what drives him:

"I want to be able to think about the future and feel good about that, to dream what we can to have the future be as good as possible. To be inspired by what is likely to happen and to look forward to the next day. How do we make sure things are great? That's the underlying principle behind Tesla and SpaceX."

Within 20 years, he said driving a car will be like having a horse (i.e. rare and totally optional). "There will not be a steering wheel."

“There will be people that will have non-autonomous cars, like people have horses,” he said.


“It just would be unusual to use that as a mode of transport.”

But what started off as the latest sales pitch for electric cars quickly devolved into a bizarre rant that among other things, touched on Elon Musk's gloomy, apocalyptic vision of how the world could end... (via ReCode)

Musk called on the government to proactively regulate artificial intelligence before things advance too far.

“Until people see robots going down the street killing people, they don’t know how to react because it seems so ethereal,” he said.


“AI is a rare case where I think we need to be proactive in regulation instead of reactive. Because I think by the time we are reactive in AI regulation, it’s too late.”


“Normally the way regulations are set up is a while bunch of bad things happen, there’s a public outcry, and after many years a regulatory agency is set up to regulate that industry,” he continued.


“It takes forever. That, in the past, has been bad but not something which represented a fundamental risk to the existence of civilization. AI is a fundamental risk to the existence of human civilization.”

Musk has been concerned about AI for years, and he’s working on technology that would connect the human brain to the computer software meant to mimic it.

Full interview below (Musk begins talking around 42 minutes in)...

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Bill of Rights's picture

Fuck these Billionaire drama queens.

813kml's picture

Battery life will limit the killing sprees to five minutes.

jaap's picture

Maybe the self driving software comes in handy for those AI robots.

bamawatson's picture

this guy got his ass beat every freakin day through junior high school

Dizzy Malscience's picture



sounds pretty sweaty, anal.......

..but what do I know.

HowdyDoody's picture

Robots driving Teslas - the ultimate suicide VBIED. Quick, call ISIS product placement.

lil dirtball's picture

> the sun is a giant fusion reactor in the sky

Ironic that someone who runs a company called Tesla would say that.

It's electric!



BullyBearish's picture

so...what's different between an evil-controlled "AI" robot killing innocent people and brainwashed, braindead soldiers doing the same thing...seems the "soldiers" are a lot cheaper and GDP actually GOES UP when they die...

Slack Jack's picture

Hugh Water Unveils Apocalyptic Vision For The World

So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80.3 meters (263.5 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:


Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global land temperatures.

This is 0.0963 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0963 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global land temperatures.

This was 0.2415 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.2415 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year.

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global land temperatures.

This was 0.0139 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.



GUS100CORRINA's picture

Sleck Jack ...

When you said "Since then (15,000 years ago)", you completely lost me. The earth is only 6134 years old give or take a few 100 years and I can prove it!!!

Sorry to tell you this, buth Global Warming/Climate Change is a myth from the PIT of HELL to get people to worship the CREATION versus the CREATOR.

Slack Jack's picture

GUS100CORRINA @ Jul 15, 2017 7:56 PM So, you are interested in Old Testament stuff. Did you know that God states that he gave the first man the name Adam, because he created Adam from (clay/earth from) the four corners of the world, and in a similar fashion, the word Adam is made from (the first letters of the names of) the four corners of the world (i.e., from the first letters of East, West, North, and South, in Greek).

A = Anatola = East (in Greek).
D = Dysis = West (in Greek).
A = Arctos = North (in Greek).
M = Mesembria = South (in Greek).

Saint Augustine in his book "Homilies on the Gospel according to St. John," says:

"And what man knoweth not that from Adam are sprung all nations, and that in the four letters of his name, the four quarters of the world, as they are expressed in Greek, are indicated? For if the words East, West, North, South, as Holy Scripture mentions them in very many places, are expressed in Greek, the first letters, thou wilt find, make Adam. For the Greek names of the four aforementioned parts of the world are Anatole, Dysis, Arktos, Mesembria. If these four names are written, like four verses, one under the other, the capital letters form the word ADAM."

Further, Saint Augustine in his book "Expositions on the book of Psalms," says:

"He gathereth all His elect from the four winds therefore from the whole world. For Adam himself (this I had said before) signifieth in Greek the whole world; for there are four letters, A, D, A, and M. But as the Greeks speak, the four quarters of the world have these initial letters, Anatola, they call the East; Dysis, the West; Arctos, the North; Mesembria, the South: thou hast the word Adam."

Have a look at: http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1173

Luc X. Ifer's picture

Who the fuck is this dumbass all retards here call 'god', never heard of him, can someone point me to some reference information about him, did he got a Nobel for something, couldn't find him enlisted either on Nobel or any s science award/recon site.

armada's picture

Beware of Apocalyptic visions. A certain "apocalypse" during WW2 NEVER really happened. http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-3BS

Manthong's picture

When I lived in Spain back in the early 70’s I could have bought a Lotus Elon… oh no it was Elan for $4K

 If I only had that car now .. or even my ’71 Buick GS. or the ’79 TA.


Metastatic Debt's picture

Ughhhh! Hiding in the tiny url folds now?

Final URL after redirects



Someone got it right:

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TheRealBilboBaggins's picture

I see the Hamas/Hezbollah faction finally got out of bed.


Luc X. Ifer's picture

Suck my dick and lick my ass yo fucking retard jew hater 

Sirius Wonderblast's picture

Well, there's a horrible outside chance he's an ominpotent, omniscient australopithicus.

Giant Meteor's picture

G O D 

Good Orderly Direction ..


Guaranteed Overnight Delivery .

Either way ..

Beatscape's picture

I too was skeptical about the existence of God.  I am a pragmatist and until I see hard, scientific and actual evidence of the existence of anything, I tend to discount it as myths and wishful thinking.  But now I've finally seen the proof that God does indeed exist.  After thousands of years, he has finally appeared on Facebook!  Seriously, God signed up for a facebook account and will answer most any question posed to him and freely bestows his divine wisdom to anyone that seeks it.  You can find him here:


The hard-and-fast proof that I've always been looking for is right there on Facebook. Hallelujah!


Luc X. Ifer's picture

Oh that's Zuckerberg's pseudoname, all makes sense now, indeed ...

kochevnik's picture

>Who the fuck is this dumbass all retards here call 'god'

It is "dog" from ancient right-left script.  Some idiots read the script left-right and found their deity

Luc X. Ifer's picture

oh makes sense, that's why it is said it sounds like barking when he maaad or lacking pussy ...

Justin Case's picture

Worry about this it is a real threat.

Dr. Caldicott ended her speech on Sept. 2014 by saying: “In Fukushima, it is not over. Everyday, four hundred tons of highly radioactive water pours into the Pacific and heads towards the U.S. Because the radiation accumulates in fish, we get that too. The U.S. government is not testing the water, not testing the fish, and not testing the ambient air. Also, people in Japan are eating radiation every day.”

Furthermore, according to Dr. Caldicott: “Rainwater washes over the nuclear cores into the Pacific. There is no way they can get to those cores, men die, robots get fried. Fukushima will never be solved. Meanwhile, people are still living in highly radioactive areas.”

hongdo's picture

Now that I am old, I see the wisdom of:

Live fast, die young

Only the good die young

The children inherit the sins of the parents

Most people live lives of quiet desperation



Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Easy Holgie, the guy's talkin' weird shit. Next he'll lay the ol' "the Earth goes around the sun" bit on us. What's he take us for, Luddites?!?

Smufty's picture

Fuck all of you.  Musk may say alot of shit, but he has really done alot of shit too. And what are you but internet trolls or, in the words of the late Spiro Agnew, nattering nabobs of negativity. I mean really...

Giant Meteor's picture

".... has done alot of shit "

One must never confuse activity with results ..

Oh regional Indian's picture

I do a lot of shit everyday. Sometime twice, on a good day. But I keep my shit to myself. 

It's the roses I grow that are for the world to see and smell....

Manthong's picture

Oh crap...

I gave birth to an epic one just yesterday.

I thought my lower regions were going to explide.


The two bushes outside of my office window got whacked by some weird airborne disease,

..but a few of the buds seem to be coming back now.

There has to be a good story or song here …….


jeff montanye's picture

and i believe those words are patrick buchanan's.  spiro agnew was a bagman for crooked fascists (business plus government).

two wild cards on man's contribution to global warming, whatever it is, are that photovoltaic and wind turbine are now about the price of coal or less, without subsidies, in the relatively warm and windy places.  the other is that the human population of the world peaks in about a generation, less if a depression or major wars develop, and decreases without obvious limit.

in order for government to regulate evil uses of technology, mr. musk, the evil use of technology (etc.) by government must be exposed for all to see.

bust the dnc servers, bust the seth rich murder, bust 9-11.  wake the fuck up sheeple.

clade7's picture

"He has a face only a mother could punch"....I dont know what is is about this damn guy, but for sure he has one of those faces just begging for a royal longfisting...

motorollin's picture

5 fucktards agree with this? What site am I on again?

thisandthat's picture

I was going to reply to the article by saying "what an imbecile!", but you and the guy you're replying to deserve to share the "honor".

Mr Hankey's picture

And 9 retards uved ole Gus

All Risk No Reward's picture

Don't worry about the AI.

Do worry about the DMM - the Debt-Money Monopolists that will finance the programming of the AI to take you out.

I'll bet you AI aggression, if it comes to that, acts much like terrorist aggression... it will be aimed at ordinary, powerless people while completely avoiding the true Debt-Money Monopolist Emperors of this Mega-Corporate Fascist Empire.

He who pays the piper (AI, terrorists) calls the tune (the people to be attacked).

7thGenMO's picture

You have it - ARNR!

Imagine "The Terminator" or "The Matrix", but instead of an AI supercomputer running the show, the anonymous oligarchs that own The Fed are equipped with an AI supercomputer to run the show.  This is what is truly frightening!

I think we're already seeing it with "markets" obviously being managed.  However, managing the markets ultimately means overruling natural law, which cannot be done.  So, the oligarchs will use social control.  How so few can see the social control aspect of the sheeple's managed reality using the media's left/right paradigm, FB, NSA data collection, etc., is also very troubling.



SFopolis's picture

You said it..."completely lost me".  You don't have to say much more.  

BabaLooey's picture

Al Gore is needing a blowjob. 

Fill in for Tipper. She's tired of the Tobacco weenus...

devnickle's picture

Bullshit. It's a lie to extract money and control people. Russians? /s

Ink Pusher's picture

I've personally caught the USGS politically doctoring their reports on more than one occasion. 

The solar maximum ended and we are now entering the Grand Solar Minimum for solar cycles 25 and 26.

See: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/68bb/32e4821bf0a6d5ccca7eba6af7c1eee91e...

popeye's picture

Despite all the ad hominem bullshit written here, Musk has it right, and alot of posters here are either stupidly or willfilly ignorant. How about addressing the subject, not the individual? Or is that intellectually too much effort?

AI brings some seriously interesting developments. Also some challenging social challenges. But more importantly, once it starts being applied in multi-disciplinary contexts, with no hardwired control humans could indeed become redundant in the most fundamental sense.

Think that wont happen? Consider the history of computing power.

One can choose to be dismissive, at your own peril (and that of your family). 

mkkby's picture

Because AI is fake.  It only exists in sci fi's. 

All computers really do is look up what to do in a large table or database.  If you see a red hexagonal sign, stop.  If you see something not in the database, pull over and ask for assistance.

popeye's picture

Consider deep learning. And keep in mind AI does not have to mirror human intelligence in function - what it is capable of in the future is more important than how it achieves it.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Regardless, sometimes the messenger, who in this case happens to be a company thieving, govt. teat sucking, wall street propped fraud, needs to be kicked swiftly in the arse and if his message goes with it, so be it.

OverTheHedge's picture

If you want to get down  to brass tacks a computer can take a number add one to that number, and then store that answer  in a registry. That's it. Nothing else. Pretty cool how adding 1 repeatedly, a LOT, gives us a pretence of intelligence.

Any computer (robot) can be programmed to have needs  and desires - if they need blood, and desire to kill humans, then we may have a problem. More fun would be some looney creating a self-replicating attack robot, programmed to kill all humans. Someone will probably try to do it, once it becomes possible. Someone from here would probably be really keen if they could limit the attack to just a certain "segment" of humanity.

The self-replicating bit is tricky, so perhaps the way forward would be to use a biological system, as it is easier to extract energy from the environment, and biology has already worked out the self replication thing. We could call this new bio weapon, oh, I don't know.. How about "Ebola"? Has a catchy ring to it.

Would Bill Gates be interested in this sort of thing?