Rand Paul Says Senate Health-Care Bill Doesn't Have The Votes

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Senator Rand Paul took to the Sunday talk shows again this week to discuss the fate of Senate Health care bill 2.0., and in news that will surprise almost no one who’s been following along, the conservative Kentucky senator said Sunday on Fox and Friends that he doesn't think Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has the votes to pass the healthcare bill in its current form, according to the Hill.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell released a new version of a healthcare plan earlier this week, which, among other things, incorporates demands from Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) to allow insurers to sell low-cost, skimpier plans all in an effort to draw conservative support for the new bill.

Yet apparently the revisions weren’t enough to win over Paul, one of the senate’s most dedicated conservatives.

"I don't think right now he does," Paul, a vocal critic of the Senate's healthcare plan, said on "Fox News Sunday."

Paul, who said that dozens of Republicans won thanks to their campaigning against Obamacare, again floated the idea of first repealing, and later replacing it. There is significant resistance to that plan among other senators, including Republicans, though the White House has indicated President Trump is open to it.

"What I've suggested to the president ... if this comes to an impasse, I think if the president jumps into the fray and says 'Look guys, you promised to repeal it, let's just repeal what we can agree to," Paul said.

 

"And then we can continue to try to fix, replace or whatever has to happen afterwards," he continued.

Republicans should try to repeal as many of the taxes, regulations and mandates as possible, Paul said.

Paul was later pressed on whether he would rather keep ObamaCare than pass the current GOP's healthcare legislation. He said that the current system is "terrible."

"The death spiral of ObamaCare is unwinding the whole system, and it will continue to unwind, but I don't think Republicans should put their name on this key part of ObamaCare," Paul said.

 

"And then we're going to be blamed for the rest of the unwinding of ObamaCare. It's a really bad political strategy and it's not going to fix the problem."

McConnell on Saturday announced Senate consideration of the healthcare legislation would be delayed while Sen. John McCain recovers from surgery, according to the Hill.

During a separate interview on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Paul said he thinks more conservative Republicans will realize the Senate GOP's healthcare bill does not actually repeal ObamaCare and drop their support for the bill the longer the proposal is out there. McConnell this week delayed the upcoming vote until Sen. John McCain recovers from surgery for a blood clot.

"I think the longer the bill's out there, the more conservative Republicans are going to discover that it's not repeal," Paul said.

 

"And the more that everybody's going to discover that it keeps the fundamental flaw of ObamaCare."

When asked about McConnell’s decision to delay the vote while Sen. John McCain recovers from surgery, Paul said he didn’t think McCain’s presence would sway the vote one way or another.

Paul said the bill in its current form keeps insurance mandates that "cause the prices to rise, which chase young, healthy people out of the marketplace."

"And leads to what people call adverse selection, where you have a sicker and sicker insurance pool and the premiums keep rising through the roof," Paul said.

 

"And one of the amazing things to me is, for all the complaints of Republicans about ObamaCare, we keep that fundamental flaw."
 

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Rick Cerone's picture

Congress isn't going to stop taxing you. Are you insane? Carbon tax is next! Get that ass up in the air now!!!!

Croesus's picture

Exactly. The "GRA" 401k confiscation plan is due for an appearance soon...these bastards won't stop, until they're forcibly stopped.

Roll the guillotines.

Rick Cerone's picture

They will never stop increasing the debt burden. The banks come first, second, and forever. Their intent is to bust you into a slave. Wake the fuck up already.

Bumpo's picture

Just Repeal it. It can't stand on its own two feet, so lets stop pretending. The Progressive Left will have you believe Millions will die, but Obama has been ripping off Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac to cover the unapproved costs. Its insolvent, unfunded, so call it what it is: Dead!

a Smudge by any other name's picture

Fuck Rand. He won't do shit about imposing the law on rampant anti-trust and price fixing in the medical industry. He actually tried to legally shield the HMOs from future prosecution!

HE'S IN ON THE DEAL. HE'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

Wood_Vlogs's picture

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Bossman1967's picture

Im in the health ins biz and actually own an agenc. All these politicians playing games destroying the health insurance industry practically complete again in life My family is uninsured. Single Payer Medicare coming then our parents and grandparents fucked. The plan

Boris Badenov's picture

And what has The Federal Reserve done to life insurance companies?

Bigly's picture

Lubeless buttfucking. That is what they did.

curbjob's picture

Captain Obvious explaining the arrival of another nuffinburger . 

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Rand Paul Says Senate Health-Care Bill Doesn't Have The Votes

My response: We have a REBUBLICAN MAJORITY in BOTH LEGISLATIVE BODIES and a PRESIDENT who is willing to SIGN legislation and yet we can't move forward. Unbelievable!

What went wrong??? Now comes the BLAME GAME on STEROIDS.

Bigly's picture

Such pathetic people.

No pols are doing anything effective at this point. No budgets, no hard choices, no nothing.

These people need to be physically pulled from their positions.  Voting no longer works

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

What went wrong? ? Republicans are giant faggots, that's what went wrong.

Cassandra.Hermes's picture

I hope overweight tax is next, i think first 30 pounds should be free but than every extra pound should add 0.1% and the money should go to federal health care spending.

Xredsx's picture

But if we stop paying the tax, than we perish in a war. We have just have wait until somebody claims to be Jeaus and can talk a good game. Or we can look at the Monarchy.

Hikikomori's picture

Republicans had SIX YEARS to come up with an Obamacare replacement, and now - total chaos.  Pathetic.

Bill of Rights's picture

Six years? How soon we forget this pathetic
Mess as you Called It was a Democrat utopian wet dream...there never will be a fix until Americans start choosing a healthier lifestyle. I went to the beach the other day I never in my Life seen so many fat assess wearing two piece bathing suits. Years past being caught overweight on the beach was an embarrassment now it's the new normal and what is considered healthy...

Bigly's picture

I know. Or shorts. Or sleeveless shirts.

If you have rolls of jiggly fat or cellulite, have a care.

You look revolting in bikinis, speedos, shorts, sleeveless... puleeze just stop.

Thanks

Pernicious Gold Phallusy's picture

A replacement is not needed immediately. Just repealing it and going back to what we had before would be a vast improvement for the 85% who had insurance that has now doubled or quadrupled in price for less coverage.

I can't find a clause in the Constitution that says Congress has the power to meddle in medical care.

Hikikomori's picture

I don't think Repubs could agree on whether the sun rises in the east or the west.  Biggest opportunity of their lifetimes, and they are blowing it.  I'm not talking about health behaviors - I'm talking about legislation.

Bill of Rights's picture

Yes cause Democrats who passed this bill and who own this bill are of sound mind and great legislators... come on now the shit is waist deep..If anything the republicans are doing the right thing here... DO NOTHING.. let it collapse on its own.

a Smudge by any other name's picture

You can thank Richard Nixon for this mess. The legal framework for HMO/government controlled health care started under him. Tricky Dick strikes from beyond the grave.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Hard to blame tricky dick when Medicare/Medicaid is ten times worse than what he did. Once LBJ got the Feds involved in health care, we were done.

ebworthen's picture

Yup.  One sentence bill - "The individual mandate is hereby repealed."

Of course, that would mean a lot less .gov money going straight to the insurance companies.

Can't have that; the toadies in CONgress work for the banks/corporations/insurers - not you and me.

 

Demologos's picture

Exactly right. The Republicans didn't have to vote for the ACA because the Democrats put in everything the big insurers wanted including a guaranteed profit and no negotiating for drug prices. By repealing, the Republicans would be stopping the gravy train. That's why it seems so hard for them to do something that should be easy.

StychoKiller's picture

"Roger Senator, go with throttle-up!"

FoggyWorld's picture

And don't leave out Big Pharma because they are the best at ripping off the system and us.

ZTedster's picture

Yes, we must bring on more regulations and crush those bastards out of business. 

 

The answer is to get government out of their rectums.

a Smudge by any other name's picture

The answer is right there in black letter law. Title 15 USC. But since the industry throws so much money in their pockets, no prosecutor or legislator will even discuss it.

We're getting robbed, they are complicit. They are on the pay side.

FoggyWorld's picture

Hate to tell you but what we had before is gone.   Corporate America got off the hook as did almost all employers who helped pay for health care and got tax deductions in return.   They aren't about to get back into that business and it doesn't bother them that we as employees have to now use after tax dollars to get decent care.

Smart doctors have moved out and around the former system to position themselves to make a decent living.

And apparently income is what determines which sort of healthcare you get so you can own a home with a swimming pool and get Medicaid.   The whole thing needs to be done over by serious people who want to do the right thing.   Those people as a rule don't live in or around Washington, DC.

It's not Trump's fault but he should have known better than to think that Congress is capable of or interested in providing good healthcare for We the Little People.  That's why they exempt themselves.  

They are fine and we are supposed to just tolerate their lack of performance and Trump who sees the swamp apparently hasn't had time to ever look at the work products that come out of there.

 

 

 

 

 

ZTedster's picture

Simply repeal the damned thing and We the People will take it from there. We don't need government sticking its dick in every fucking aspect of our lives.

ZTedster's picture

Simply repeal the damned thing and We the People will take it from there. We don't need government sticking its dick in every fucking aspect of our lives.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

I think Trump knew exactly how this was going to play out. He understands how corrupt, weak, retarded, and incompetent the congressional Republican leadership is. He dumped this in their laps so they could fuck it up, and get a groundswell going for the rank and file to dump Ryan and McConnell. With any luck, McCain will die in office, and those home movies of Lindsey Graham with his cock in a five-year-old boys mouth will get leaked.

FoggyWorld's picture

I don't believe politicians write those Bills but rather people working for lobbyists put things together in forms their employers would like.

So it says to me that for 6 years the Republicans didn't even bother to talk to the guys on K Sreet and ask them for help.

 

 

VWAndy's picture

 Come on man. They jus playin and yall should know that by now.

silverer's picture

Time for a third political party again.

silverer's picture

Time to introduce the "Spinning Down The Drain" bill.

Manipuflation's picture

I don't know how much I trust Rand.  I don't hate him but he is not his father.

StychoKiller's picture

One sheep (Doctor) amongst a flock of wolves (Lawyers!)

ZTedster's picture

Ron Paul was a phony. A bill would be proposed he knew would pass. He would chunk all kinds of pork in it, and the vote against the bill knowing it would pass anyway.

 

That is insidious.

ZTedster's picture

Ron Paul was a phony. A bill would be proposed he knew would pass. He would chunk all kinds of pork in it, and the vote against the bill knowing it would pass anyway.

 

That is insidious.

Soul Glow's picture

And people thought the swamp would be drained by one man!  Haha nope.  One man can not change the policy structure of the largest and overbloated government that has ever existed.

ThreeRs's picture

With God all things are possible.

 

Who created Math?

a Smudge by any other name's picture

You mean the god that says he is 3 in 1? (sorry couldn't resist that lols)

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Re:    "One man can't change overbloated government."

Well, he could sign Audit the Fed. Then make sure it was a legit and comprehensive audit. Then show everyone in the world what actually happens behind the curtains of secrecy.

THIS might bring about some real change. I don't think anything else will.

Pernicious Gold Phallusy's picture

They voted over and over again to kill it when they knew there was no chance of it being signed. Now they won't kill it. You might think they like Obamacare.

DocBerg's picture

But, our Rulers do not want ObamaCare to cover themselves, their families, nor their staffers...

alfbell's picture

The sooner the people revolt and overthrow Congress, SCOTUS, etc. the better. There will never be prosperity and the pursuit of happiness in this country. That died ages ago. This is a runaway train that should've been derailed over 100 years ago.