Did Elon Musk just confirm that the moon landings were faked?

hedgeless_horseman's picture


Mother should I trust the government?
-Pink Floyd, Mother

Elon Musk just announced that SpaceX abandons propulsive landing plans for Red Dragon mission to Mars.

In my opinion, we should not be surprised.  

NASA supposedly used propulsive landing for the Apollo missions to the moon...in 1969.

I ask you to please click the following hyperlinks to read three articles, carefully, watch one 3-1/3 minute video, closely, and then draw your own conclusions about the Apollo Moon landings that we are told occured nearly 50 years ago.


First, an article from RT, today:  

 SpaceX abandons propulsive landing plans for Red Dragon mission to Mars

“The reason we decided not to pursue that heavily is that it would have taken a tremendous amount of effort to qualify that for safety for crew transport,” Musk said. “That’s why we are not pursuing it. It could be something that we bring back later, but it doesn’t seem like the right way to apply resources right now.”



Musk added that he did not think that propulsive landing was the best approach.




Second, my article from ZeroHedge, last year, 2016:

I like velcro and used to drink Tang, but about the moon, was NASA really full of horseshit?

" My premise is that President Kennedy wasn't an aerospace engineer, he was a politician faced with the Russians and their satellites scaring the shit out of his constituency.  He called our shot, but we couldn't make it.  So they lied." 



Third, an article from Physics Professor, Dr. Oleg Oleynik, in 2012, and updated in 2017*:

A Stereoscopic method of verifying Apollo lunar surface images


"Thus, based on the above examples, this study concludes that the Apollo 15 photographic record does NOT depict real lunarscapes with distant backgrounds located more than a kilometre away from the camera."


"These pictures were, without doubt, taken in a studio set – up to 300 metres in size. A complex panorama mimicking the lunarscape shows degrees of movement, such as horizontal and vertical changes to give an impression of imaginary distance to the objects and perspective."




Hat tip to Medium Giraffe


Fourth, a youtube video of the Apollo 11 astronaut press conference upon returning from the moon, July 20,1969*:

Apollo 11 Television Press Conference



* Hat tip to Cognitive Dissonance

Do these three guys, who supposedly just came back from the moon with two of them landing and returning, look and sound like they just came back from the moon?


And here is the full hour and half press conference. Listen to the actual words and sentence structure as well as the body language, which is screaming out-loud disingenuous...




What do you think, now?


Peace, liberty, and prosperity,


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nmewn's picture


But I'm glad we've finally proven satellite phones & TeeeVeee's only exist in the imagination!

If no one gets my sarc, that means...put me down as not believing it was all an elaborate hoax, they went there multiple times and the lander brakes not against the "atmosphere" of the moon but against its own forward/downward motion.

So I guess Voyager 1 isn't really in interstellar space right now, either ;-)

HopefulCynical's picture

"Moon Hoax Not:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU

This is right up there with Flat Earth, folks.

thatthingcanfly's picture

Nobody for President and HopefulCynical are right.

When Hedgeless started posting his Apollo Moon Landing Hoax garbage a couple years back, that was the day I stopped taking seriously anything he said. I don't know why this guy is still allowed to contribute to ZH's otherwise outstanding blog.

SafelyGraze's picture


a lot of people claimed this image was "fake" because of the shadow on the front of the walmart

but that complaint has been debunked by snopes and cnn

verdict: the photo is legit

DontNeedNoStinkinUsername's picture

Debunked by Snopes & CNN . . . please . . .not even in jest - there are still too many believers !!

Oh regional Indian's picture

You guys want CLINCHING evidence that the whoel story was BS?

Watch this NASA AsstroNOT put the lie in front of you, on TV.

If, after watching this, you still think they happened, I have some moon rocks to sell you....


jeff montanye's picture

i don't find that clinching evidence of fakery but the press conference of the apollo 13 guys, and here's a longer one without the conspiracy theory subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI, certainly gives one pause.

these were people who had been interviewed before.  they had just achieved perhaps the greatest voyage of discovery of the species and history.  the pressure was off at last; they did it!!  the mood just doesn't seem right.   this is a conspiracy that i don't want to believe in but the more i watch that interview it just sounds like "what honey, red underpants under the back seat?  i have no idea where they could have come from.  probably a trick by the guys at work."   not "we ran the whole payroll under the new system and every check was right.  they made me a vice president and i got a ten thousand dollar a year raise."  not even that.

the byrds wrote a song about them.

here's what it might have sounded like:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8MB2AGm2vs

BaBaBouy's picture

The only time (aleg) man has gone thru the VAN ALLEN radiation belt are the 6 missions to the moon. NOT ever before, and not ever since...

12 hrs of high radiation each way. Thank goodness it didn't effect them whatsoever...