"Calexit" Referendum Question Is One Step Closer To Appearing On 2018 Ballot

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A group that is trying to organize a vote on whether California should secede from the US has received permission to begin gathering signatures to force an independence referendum that, if successful, would amount to the first serious attempt at secession by a US state since the Civil War.

According to the Sacramento Bee, California Attorney General Xavier Becerra issued an official ballot measure title and summary to the "California Autonomy From Federal Government" initiative, which can now start gathering signatures needed to include the referendum question - known informally as "Calexit" - on the ballot during the 2018 midterm elections.

The group’s proposal has been scaled back from an initially more aggressive version. The initiative wouldn't necessarily force California to exit the country, but could allow the state to become a “fully functioning sovereign and autonomous nation” within the US, according to the Los Angeles Times.  

If successful, the vote would allow California Gov. Jerry Brown to “form a commission to recommend avenues for California to pursue its independence and delete part of the state constitution that says it is an inseparable part of the U.S. The measure would also instruct the governor and California congressional delegation to negotiate more autonomy for the state,” according to the Bee.

As the Bee notes, an earlier, more aggressive measure that called for a formal break with the US was cancelled less than three months after it received permission to start gathering signatures – presumably because the group had trouble finding voters willing to affix their names to the movement. The new, scaled down effort is the second since President Donald Trump’s upset victory in November to convince the state’s leadership to demand more autonomy from Washington.

Backers of the plan now have 180 days to collect the more than 585,000 valid signatures needed for the initiative to go on the 2018 ballot.

Apparently, liberal, Hillary Clinton-loving Californians were so triggered by Trump’s win that they immediately began fantasizing about breaking away from the US. According to an Ipsos/Reuters poll released back in January found that 1 in every 3 Californians (32%) said they would support a "peaceful withdrawal from the union” - a substantial increase from the 20% who favored such a withdrawal the last time a similar poll was conducted in 2014. Support for secession among Californians was also higher than the national average of 24%, the poll found.

Californians are particularly triggered by Trump's promises to enforce immigration laws and repeal Obamacare. One Democrat consultant who was interviewed by Reuters in its story reporting the poll’s findings said that "many citizens believe it would be smarter to leave than fight."

While California has a reputation as one of the most liberal states in the country, it does have its conservative pockets. In profile published last month, the New York Times spoke with residents of 13 Northern California counties that went for Trump during the election. Many decried what they called the “tyranny” of the state’s liberal hegemony, which has effectively marginalized their votes for statewide and federal officials, other than their local US representatives.

If California successfully secedes, expect those counties to stage their own effort to break away from the rest of the state.
 

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Thom Paine's picture

Democrats will never win another presidency without California.  Too fucking funny these mexifornian snowflakes.

Look forward to more Trumps and GOP dominated Congress

oDumbo's picture

I unfortunately live in in this shit bake fruit cake state. Just give me a month to close out before the vote and I will never step foot in this tranny taco musical quake shake again. Just a heads up would be appreciated.

azusgm's picture

Leave Sodom and Gomorrah now and do not look back.

stacking12321's picture

if at first you don't secede, try, try again.

Captain Benny's picture

Nevada welcomes all those counties desiring freedom from the idiocracy of libertards.

StackShinyStuff's picture

I say let 'em go.  And then extend the wall northward.

edotabin's picture

I won't lie. I'll be sorry to see California go. It is a pretty state, it's got a great climate, I've got great memories of CA and many other positives. Otoh, the lefties are unrelenting, inflexible and absolute.

As others said, the Dems would lose the electoral votes and make things very difficult for them. That's definitely a plus! So yeah..... Since they are so hellbent on leaving.... Bye!!!

secretargentman's picture

Urgent message to Russia: Californians are going to vote on whether to secede. You know what to do!

divingengineer's picture

It's not the state, it's LA and SF Bay Area and of course Sacramento.
Go to Murphys or Ft Bragg or Weaverville and the people are normal people.
Don't let Sacramento convince you that we are all moonbats and trannies here.

sodbuster's picture

California is like a bowl of breakfast cereal- what isn't fruits or nuts, is flakes.

A Nanny Moose's picture

This is why secession would result in a CA un-civil war. Normal inland areas would want to remain with Amerika.

Fish Gone Bad's picture

I live in the armpit of California. The voters vote for all kinds of stupid shit things.  The last smart thing they voted "yes" on was 187, which was blocked.  It has been accelerating downhill since then.  The voters vote to shoot themselves in the foot all the time.

divingengineer's picture

Alameda count voted in a sales tax increase to provide free health care to illegals.
Top that.....
A tax, to provide unearned benefits to illegal aliens.
How could that possibly be legal?

Cloud9.5's picture

Self-determination is a natural right.  As a southerner, I support California’s right to secede. But when you go, understand that your people are no longer American citizens.  The U.S. border will begin at your eastern state boundary.  To cross that border, you will have to secure visas and go through customs. 

You will no longer pay federal income tax.  On the flip side you will receive no federal benefits.  All federal employees will be relocated out of your state.  All federal real estate will be returned to California.  All federal property to include all military hardware will be returned to the United States.  All post offices will be closed.  All military bases will be closed, dismantled and evacuated.  All federal agencies, courts and law enforcement will be immediately disbanded upon your exit.

All water flowing into your state may or may not continue to flow at the discretion of the states bordering your country. 

Let us have an amicable divorce.  Go in peace California.

 

Manthong's picture

 

If the water flowing west is turned off, most of Mexifornia will revert to its natural state...

desert.

 

Sounds like a plan to me.

divingengineer's picture

Yep, without the canals, it's Arizona.

Mustafa Kemal's picture

" The U.S. border will begin at your eastern state boundary.  To cross that border, you will have to secure visas and go through customs. "

Do the canadiens have to get visas?

Cloud9.5's picture

Generally Canadians are not required to have visas to visit the United States.  If they seek residency in the U.S. that is a different matter. https://ca.usembassy.gov/visas/do-i-need-a-visa/

Considering the fact that California wishes to open its borders to Mexico, I suspect that visas will be required.

Jack's Raging Bile Duct's picture

I agree that self-determination is everyone's right. US Gov will not allow any secession though, because if any were to leave--ESPECIALLY California, the Petrodollar is fucking dead. Neither the USG nor CA could handle that loss overnight. Things would get Mad Max very quickly.

piliage's picture

Please, for the love of God, leave the union.

California has $1.3 Trillion in unfunded pension liabilities, over 50% of California's total GDP. The population, which was 17 million in the 70s when I grew up there, is now estimated to be 40 million. That's $30,000 in debt for every man, woman, and child. To this, you can add the $61,538 per capita in Fed debt. So, Californians, if they leave will be in debt for $100k or so per person.

http://californiapolicycenter.org/californias-debt-bubble-how-does-it-end/

Additionally, California has over 30% of the United State's welfare recipients.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/politics/sdut-welfare-capital-o...

Very much look forward to California trying to fund the 70% federal subsidy for each of these welfare programs, particularly given the fact that, "this year, California will spend more than 80% of its budget on welfare, education, health care, pensions and interest."

 

http://www.investors.com/news/economy/california-still-dreaming-but-wholl-pay-for-it-all/

 

PLEASE LEAVE THE UNION! PLEASE!!! Hell, I'll volunteer for the pro effort.

INTJ Economist's picture

US citizens will NEVER be responsible for the federal debt, so subtract the $61k.  You don't understand how modern money actually works.  But yes, California should leave.  The entire US should be split into a few different countries, actually.

Playtime's Over's picture

Shitcongo can be the second star on thier fag flag.  Boy, what a feel good story.

navy62802's picture

I fucking hope it unexpectedly passes. The US would never have another Democrat administration in the White House.

waspwench's picture

Oy!   We should be so lucky.

stacking12321's picture

people who dwell too much on imaginary figures in faraway lands like DC and think that's where the power over their lives lies, will never be more than serfs.

whether the asshole "in charge" calls themselves a democrat or republican makes little difference, and if you drink a couple 2-liters of soda every day you'll get diabetes, doesn't matter if you are drinking coke or pepsi.

and empires have life cycles just like people do, there's a time to live and a time to die - hence the degradation and decadence in the country as its vitality has run its course.

you could have 100% republicans in office, and it wouldn't matter for shit - those in power wouldn't allow the alleged law-makers to change anything substantially, whether getting rid of the fed, enacting a gold standard, cutting ties to israel and saudi arabia, ending the wars of aggression, or a thousand other things that rot the country to the core.

the only trick is to figure out in which country the spirit that made america great once, will manifest next, and to head there - because as far as this country is concerned, stick a fork in 'er, she's done.

Cloud9.5's picture

The empire is done.  We can however preserve and revitalize the republic if we return to the federal system as it was designed.  States once had the right to be regionally different.   The Yankee Army crushed those rights.  In the aftermath, the federal courts assumed a positon that federal law was omnipotent and omnipresent.  The courts and the federal legislature assumed for themselves along with the new central power assumed by the presidency the right to regulate every aspect of our lives.  In the process, the states were subverted and the sovereign citizen was crushed.  All that remains now is the centralized state and it has pretty much run its course.  Overreach is expensive and at some point, it bankrupts the state.

August's picture

>>>you could have 100% republicans in office, and it wouldn't matter for shit - those in power wouldn't allow the alleged law-makers to change anything substantial

This is a hard truth.

I believe it can be restated as:  There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This.

Mr. Universe's picture

I hope it gets on the ballot and I hope it passes. Right before I get get the hell out of here.

ebworthen's picture

Please!  Go! 

We'll build the wall at the CA border.

You can become a Mexican state since you are almost there already.

When the big one comes we won't have to rebuild your cities or highways either.

Archibald Buttle's picture

the trade dealine is in a few days. maybe we can trade CA to mexico for the yucatan and a couple of minor leaguers. think of the benefits to next year's salary cap.

Captain Benny's picture

Us Nevadans will man the wall with guns that have more than 10 rd capacity.

devnickle's picture

I hope they're ready to pay double for everything produced outside the wall? That's the trouble with liberals, they never look at unintended consequences. They can't think that far ahead. 

azusgm's picture

Do it.

Go for the gusto. Don't try to go and stay at the same time. Just go.

The conservatives would leave and head our way. The libtards would beat a fast path to Kali. Then we could build a "beautiful wall."

Kamala Harris and Maxine Waters would have to leave DC. Maybe Al Green and Sheila Jackson Lee would follow them.

There is hope for America.

Archibald Buttle's picture

someone has to push that first domino...

azusgm's picture

Maybe we should take a few boxes of pens to California and offer to hold clipboards while people sign the petition.

Anything to be of service to our fellow men and women, right?

Archibald Buttle's picture

i would suggest well-sharpened pencils but i bet those signatures wouldn't count. so pens it is!

East Indian's picture

provided all those who sign the petition will be compelled to stay back after secession.

 

 

Because those who were the best supporters of a separate Pakistan out of India in 1947 stayed back in India; they never left for Pakistan...

Koba the Dread's picture

Mr. Jenna went to Pakistan didn't he.

piliage's picture

And what a fantastic success that country has been.

Sanity Bear's picture

Looking forward to Californians getting some well-deserved taste of Sherman's March.

Yen Cross's picture

 Break it into three parts. Fuck the libtards, they can buy their produce from Europe.

azusgm's picture

Leave it intact. It makes a decent buffer for that Fukushima-contaminated water.

BidnessMan's picture

Also a good landing spot for North Korean nuclear ICBMs.

Md4's picture

"form a commission to recommend avenues for California to pursue its independence and delete part of the state constitution that says it is an inseparable part of the U.S. The measure would also instruct the governor and California congressional delegation to negotiate more autonomy for the state,”

No.

You don't have your cake, and eat it too. Social welfare, defense, and voting rights...but be able to assert "independent status" when you don't like a federal statute or mandate?

You're in or you're out.

You are NOT going to be both simultaneously...

Yen Cross's picture

 Federal law supercedes State law. Just cut the libtards off, and hold a constitutional ballet/vote.

Captain Benny's picture

Maybe you should understand the 10th?  I agree States should assert their rights.  Fuck Cali! Good riddance, finally the USA is free of 30+ million libertards

BidnessMan's picture

Yep - Hasta la vista, Baby.

Leave quick so the Deplorables are not stuck with funding the reconstruction when the Big One hits. Would be fine if Cali split off into the Pacific.

Schmuck Raker's picture

Which will happen first?

<- "Calexit"

<- Reps repeal "O-Caretm "