Senate Chaos Returns: Six Hours After Major GOP Victory, "Repeal And Replace" Is Voted Down

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If this is what passes for a legislative victory in the Trump administration, the president may be in trouble.

Less than a day after the Senate GOP leadership mustered the minimum number of Republican votes necessary to begin debate on a bill to repeal Obamacare (and even then thanks only to a tiebreaking vote by Vice President Mike Pence), the Republican campaign to kill the legislation remains in chaos.

Just six hours after the successful vote to proceed, the Senate overwhelmingly rejected a plan to repeal and replace Obamacare, voting 43-57 against with 9 Republicans joining Democrats in the process. That plan requires 60 votes to pass because of its impact on the budget deficit, and without support from Democrats, that bill has a 0% chance of survival. The failed vote has dashed Republican hopes of replacing Obamacare with another plan.

Although Trump celebrated the motion to proceed at a rally in Youngstown, where he proclaimed that the US is now "one step closer to liberating our citizens from this Obamacare nightmare", the president’s hopeful remarks ignore that Senate Republicans are still in chaos, especially after John McCain's fiesty speech in the Senate on Tuesday. As Reuters and a handful of other media outlets have reported, despite the success of the vote, the Senate GOP doesn't have enough support to pass any of its plans to repeal, or repeal and replace, Obamacare, as many moderates remain wary of cuts to Medicaid in the GOP plan that could curtail coverage for millions of poor Americans, as Reuters explains.

“The outcome was a huge relief for President Donald Trump, who had pushed his fellow Republicans hard in recent days to live up to the party's campaign promises to repeal the 2010 Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare. Minutes after the vote, Trump called it "a big step."


But the narrow victory on a simple procedural matter raised questions about whether Republicans can muster the votes necessary to pass any of the various approaches to repeal.


Moderates are worried repeal will cost millions of low-income Americans their insurance and conservatives are angry the proposed bills do not go far enough to gut Obamacare, which they consider government overreach.”

Conservatives continue to oppose the GOP Obamacare alternative, despite the leadership’s attempt to woo them by adding an amendment that would allow insurers to offer lower-cost plans.

“Nine Republicans, ranging from moderates such as Susan Collins of Maine to conservatives such as Rand Paul of Kentucky, voted against the bill, which would have made deep cuts to Medicaid, the health insurance program for the poor, and reduced Obamacare subsidies to lower-income people to help them defray the cost of health insurance."

Regardless of which Republican plan makes it out of the Senate - and it's likely none of them will, at least not any time soon - the Senate and House would then need to draft a compromise bill, which would require another round of votes in each chamber. As we explained yesterday, the only Republican option that has some hope of passing is the leadership’s “skinny” repeal plan, which hasn’t been brought to vote yet.

If passed, the bill would eliminate only the most controversial elements of Obamacare: the individual and employer mandates, and the medical device tax. We’ll likely know more about the skinny budget soon, as Republicans are expected to hold many more votes in the coming days.

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Swamp Yankee's picture

Other than a fine pice of hickory... any ideas?

Theta_Burn's picture


Do nothing instead and let all these pussies own it.

FrozenGoodz's picture

Hey but at least the President got a chance to brag about a [optic] political victory at a [why are we campainging] campaign rally last night though


I was told there'd be winning ...

07564111's picture

in the race to the bottom america is winning.

:D :D :D

VinceFostersGhost's picture



Bunch of monkeys trying to _uck a football.


REPEAL.......I don't care how much graft you lose!

espirit's picture

Different outcomes require different solutions.

Same old. Might as well exacerbate the solution to ineffective govenment, and taxation without representation.

froze25's picture

Interesting that Congress and the Senate was able to pass a full repeal bill when Obama was in Office numerous times but now that Trump will actually sign it they can't get the votes. I wonder if Paul Rino can speak to this, excuse me Paul Ryan?

eclectic syncretist's picture

As crazy as it sounds, I almost wish the Queen could sack them all like she does the Canadian and Australian Parliaments when they get this dysfunctional.


bigkahuna's picture

Unfortunately, we must sack them - and we *in the aggragate* do not even seem to know nor care what is going on.

BaBaBouy's picture

WTF, what are they Smokin???

Its a A Bag Of Snakes, A NO-Win...

MoreFreedom's picture

It shows that the GOP in Congress is dominated by RINOs that like big government, and government control of markets (both health insurance and health care), and only pay lip service to free markets to get elected.

This should be obvious to anyone who's been watching the GOP for the past 20 years.  Look at what the GOP did under GW Bush when they had a majority in the House and Senate - they spent money even faster than when government was divided - making drunken sailors look frugal.  Or when Boehner/Cantor had a vote on a bill to defund Obamacare (knowing Reid would ignore it in the Senate) followed by a vote on an appropriations bill to fund the government along with Obamacare. 

The RINOs do what they can to look like conservatives so they can get re-elected, then vote otherwise in Congress when it matters.  Now that they have a majority in both the Senate and House, they can't hide or make excuses.

Frankly I'm glad the replace bill failed, it was just Obamacare with a new coat of paint.  I want free markets.



August's picture

The Congressional Rethuglicans just want you to understand that, without a 60-seat Senate majority, they are powerlesss.

Fuck Republicans.

Theta_Burn's picture

To much embedded loop footage of loosing to get thru at the moment.

BUT... the Debb wasserman revelations soon to come out will change alot of tunes.. and votes

Just ask Paul Manafort about his winning a dropped supoena. because all their ends are dead..

Playtime's Over's picture

There will be winning when your providers kicks you to the curb.  Celebrate the diversity of ailments your Oscare medical does not cover. This down vote is very good news.  Let the shit fall on the Dems and never trumpers as the Oclown ACA explodes.

Ajax-1's picture

I agree. However, the provisions to bail out insurers is still in place. If the Republicans were smart they would starve the beast.

thunderkiss's picture

That's what I say.  Fuck it at this point, let's see this fucker fail miserably, continue running huge deficits, and start investing accordingly.

The Wizard's picture

The reason for the complexity is because government has involved itself in it. Get out of the way, just like most things which should be market based.

VinceFostersGhost's picture



Healthcare is difficult's more like a con game right now.

how_this_stuff_works's picture

"'s more like a con game right now."

See, I'd liken it more to extortion or legalized theft.

August's picture

>>>I'd liken it more to extortion or legalized theft.

Well, the US "healthcare" system IS extortion, restraint of trade, price-fixing, racketeering and a few other things, all known as crimes.

Fortunately for Big Pharma, the insurance industry, and the big hospital chains, their income is massive enough to buy off, or otherwise capture, the legislators and regulators who might have worked in the public's interest rather than their own.  FWIW, the doctors are the small fry in this racket.

Boy, no one could have seen this coming!

Salzburg1756's picture

Right. Lock all the senators and congressmen in a room. Nothing goes in, nothing and no one comes out until all federal involvement in healthcare is declared null and void, as is entailed by the Constitution. There is no other solution.

espirit's picture

Prolly be solved by brunch.

francis_the_wonder_hamster's picture

"The reason for the complexity is because government has involved itself in it. Get out of the way, just like most things which should be market based."

These two sentences are exactly the solution.  The 3 downvotes on Wizard's comment (as of the time of my reply) disgust me.  You have to be an idiot or deliberately obtuse to not see that the corporate/gov't intrustion into healthcare is absulutely the problem.


how_this_stuff_works's picture

"You have to be an idiot or deliberately obtuse to not see that the corporate/gov't intrustion into healthcare is absulutely the problem."

Or trolls receiving a .gov paycheck.

francis_the_wonder_hamster's picture

I think the checks come from NGO's.  

I'd love to waste a day responding to job advertisements at these NGO's that sound like trolling positions just for curiosity's sake.

mc888's picture

Yeah. Put doctors in charge of it instead of politicians bought by the insurance and big pharma lobbies.

Everybodys All American's picture

So even though the Obamacare disaster was passed with 50 votes under Obama it takes 60 votes now to repeal it under Trump. wtf. If that doesnt tell you we are in a cluster fuck of one party rule nothing does.

slightlyskeptical's picture

Umm...Obamacare was passed with 60+ votes.

Tactical Joke's picture

Lots and lots of rope. Maybe a bit of tar, and some feathers. Nah, just lots of rope.

veritas semper vinces's picture

yes.As I said,ONE party,with two wings,the party of the BANKING CARTEL.

mpcascio's picture

The Republican leadership is useless.

Offthebeach's picture

"Leadership", that's funny.

VinceFostersGhost's picture



I know we can't kill McConnell and Ryan.


But would be fun!

The Wizard's picture

The primary goal of a politician is to get re-elected. They believe in order to do so, the status quo must be preserved. People vote for a good number of these guys to go to DC and decentralize. Because most of those who are selected to get elected can be blackmailed, they become statist/globalists. I can't say the banksters have them by the balls because they don't have any left.

There are a few who are pursuing legislation of what most Americans want. More of the people who have been silent are waking up and becoming vociferous.

post turtle saver's picture

the best (and likely to be most effective) recommendation in this thread... we are living with the results of decades of re-election of career politicians... this needs to stop

espirit's picture

They only want you to believe their representation is worthy of your taxation.

HRClinton's picture

Term limits and Election reform.

No contributions allowed from corporations or groups. 

LOL. Yeah, like that's ever gonna happen. Corruption is enshrined legally, now that the SCOUTS has decreed that corporations are people too.

There's only one Rx at this point: torches, pitchforks and rope. The odds of that are slim also. 

Itshappening's picture

do it by executive then. i missed the part in the constitution that said the government can interfere in medicine.

trump tweeted he had a pen. if they wont do it his way, hell do it by himself.

FrozenGoodz's picture

Have we confirmed he can write outside of a signature?

how_this_stuff_works's picture

What we've confirmed is Obama was unable to speak without a teleprompter, so maybe.

STP's picture

How much are you worth, FrozenTVdinner?   How many buildings have you constructed?  Resorts?  Anything?