Who Is Michael Vickers? The CIA's Afghan Jihad Architect Declares War On Trump

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Regime change advocates are in continued meltdown mode.

Last week's announcement of Trump's shutting down the CIA's covert weapons and aid program to anti-government insurgents in Syria - a move now widely interpreted as marking the end of the years long US push for overthrowing Assad - has deep state hawks and their media allies throwing repeat public fits and tantrums in all the usual op-ed pages and cable news panels (though it appears the Pentagon is still ramping up its presence in Syria, ostensibly to fight ISIS). Even John McCain found time, a day after announcing his diagnosis with brain cancer, to compose a statement which said: “If these reports are true, the administration is playing right into the hands of Vladimir Putin.”

On Monday night Trump gave confirmation of the closure of the program while taking issue with The Washington Post's reporting:

Utilizing zero evidence, the Post described the president's decision as "a move sought by Moscow" in yet another cheap attempt at playing the Russia card. Appeasement of Moscow in Syria is now a central talking point of the pro regime change enthusiasts now attacking Trump. But in the midst of such unsightly neocon weeping, wailing gnashing of teeth (actually a welcome spectacle) we can glean more information of things only previously discussed in the classified halls of Langley or the Pentagon.

For example, David Ignatius penned an unhinged column immediately after the news broke last week (he laments the US didn't give jihadist "rebels" anti-aircraft missiles!) which reveals new information based on a quote from a defense official with knowledge of the CIA program:

Run from secret operations centers in Turkey and Jordan, the program pumped many hundreds of millions of dollars to many dozens of militia groups. One knowledgeable official estimates that the CIA-backed fighters may have killed or wounded 100,000 Syrian soldiers and their allies over the past four years.

"Massive, dangerous, and wasteful"

Whether this estimate of Syrian troop death toll is low or high, it offers a rare confirmation that the CIA program was the prime driving force which fueled and escalated the war and its massive bloodshed since nearly the beginning. It is important to remember that the prevailing wisdom coming out of the DC echo chamber had perpetually cast the US as "on the sidelines" of a fundamentally internal Syrian drama. Though Obama ordered the covert program which "killed or wounded 100,000 Syrian soldiers" (and who knows how many civilians?) his legacy has been continually framed as the reluctant humanitarian warrior who didn't do enough.

The New York Times, among many others, constantly promoted the lie that the CIA program was minuscule and inconsequential, and near daily reporting on Syria over the past years conveniently glossed over the massively budgeted program altogether. But Trump's tweet further provides rare highest level confirmation that the program was "massive" (according to Snowden documents given to the Washington Post, “one the agency’s largest covert operations, with a budget approaching $1 billion a year”).

Importantly, Trump's tweet also called it "wasteful". As a recent report in the Financial Times reminds us, the CIA not only ran a US weapons pipeline into Syria, but actually payed salaries of "rebel commanders" and others. That's right... your tax dollars at work funding jihad in Syria!:

One rebel commander who asked not to be named said US support had been waning for months but noted that the rebels had been given their salaries as normal last month. Still, he believed the decision was final. “The CIA’s role is done,” the rebel commander said.

As for Trump calling the program "dangerous", this is probably the most immediately self-evident part of his description. He had campaigned on the promise to disentangle the US from Syria on the basic common sense idea that getting in bed with Syria's so-called "moderate rebels" was tantamount to supporting al-Qaeda. In June 2016 he controversially tweeted the following:

The Hill commented on the tweet at the time:

The story, from the conservative Breitbart website, says the State Department received a memo from an intelligence agent who claimed al Qaeda in Iraq, a group that splintered off to form ISIS, was one of the "major forces driving the insurgency in Syria."

 

Based on the memo, the article claims that the Obama administration backed ISIS by setting up a program to train Syrian rebels fighting against President Bashar Assad.

That ISIS was fueled and strengthened through the US, Saudis, Turks and allies flooding the Syrian battlefield and its jihadists with cash and weaponry is now beyond dispute, confirmed by many of the very people with direct knowledge of the program: from the US ambassador to Syria to former DIA chief Michael Flynn to then Vice President Biden to General Martin Dempsey to members of Congress and many others. Here is Gen. Michael Flynn, long before he had any association with the Trump campaign, speaking to Al Jazeera about the 2012 Pentagon secret memo Trump tweeted about:

Confront the Russians! CIA's Afghan Jihad 2.0

Meanwhile, we've recently pointed to the obvious comparison (and have been doing so for years) between the CIA's Syria operation, called Timber Sycamore, and 'Operation Cyclone' - the 1980's CIA program to arm Afghan and Arab mujahideen fighters against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Whereas recent covert action in Syria fueled the rise of ISIS, covert action of the 1980's produced the original Frankenstein of global jihad, including al-Qaeda and the Taliban, and spawned an entire generation of veteran terrorists. And now we can behold the spectacle of angry national security state insiders rant about the end of their beloved Syrian jihad, which like the 1980's, had Russia as a prime target.

Who can forget the chilling words of former deputy and acting director the CIA, Michael Morell, issued in a Charlie Rose interview nearly a year ago?:

Morell: We need to make the Iranians pay the price in Syria; we need to make the Russians pay the price.

 

Rose: We make them pay the price by killing Russians and killing Iranians?

 

MorellYes. Covertly. You don't tell the world about it. You don't stand at the Pentagon and say we did this. But you make sure they know it in Moscow and Tehran. I want to go after those things that Assad sees as his personal power base. I want to scare Assad. I want to go after his presidential car. I want to bomb his offices in the middle of the night. I want to destroy his presidential aircraft. I want to destroy his presidential helicopters. I want to make him think we are coming after him.

Ironically, Michael Morell joined the CIA in 1980, just as Operation Cyclone was getting started in central Asia - and even after personally witnessing the progression of how the US backed Afghan jihad became an international terror scourge by the 90's and early 2000's, Morell remains an apologist for arming mujahideen, but this time in Syria. As Tucker Carlson recently commented while citing Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, "people would rather provide support to Al Qaeda than give up their idea of regime change in Syria."

Concerning the original Afghan jihad, it's a little known fact that CIA support for the mujahideen did not completely dry up until well into the 1990's. According a report in The Guardian from the end of that decade:

American officials estimate that, from 1985 to 1992, 12,500 foreigners were trained in bomb-making, sabotage and urban guerrilla warfare in Afghan camps the CIA helped to set up.

 

Since the fall of the Soviet puppet government in 1992, another 2,500 are believed to have passed through the camps. They are now run by an assortment of Islamic extremists, including Osama bin Laden, the world's most wanted terrorist.

The US government understood in real time that it had set up camps for training terrorists. In what was probably the first ever US government classified report to identify Osama Bin Laden as a terrorist threat, a 1993 paper (now declassified) called “The Wandering Mujahidin: Armed and Dangerous,” admitted the increasingly global "jihadist movement" was spawned from "US support of the mujahidin." The report produced by the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research noted that the “support network that funneled money, supplies, and manpower to supplement the Afghan mujahidin” in the war against the Soviets, “is now contributing experienced fighters to militant Islamic groups worldwide,” and concluded the following:

The alleged involvement of veterans of the Afghan war in the World Trade Center bombing [February 1993] and the plots against New York targets are a bold example of what tactics some former mujahidin are willing to use in their ongoing jihad. US support of the mujahidin during the Afghan war will not necessarily protect US interests from attack.

The late Congressman Charlie Wilson with CIA-supported Jalaluddin Haqani. After 9/11 Haqani was sought by the US military as a close associate of Osama Bin Laden and terror network leader. Image: Charliewilsonswar.com

The intelligence officials who run such programs (far away from scrutiny of the public) understand quite well the consequences their actions will produce, yet they willingly proceed anyway. Morell, who has lately been a constant critic of Trump's refusal to go to war with Russia inside Syria, is a prime example of such arrogance and is representative of the deep state's long running war against Trump. But another Michael (and close confidant of Morell's), who has a deeper connection to the CIA's original Afghan jihad, has this week stepped out of the shadows to confront Trump over pulling the plug in Syria.

Who is Michael G. Vickers? 

Mike Vickers recently added his voice to the chorus of frustrated pundits raging against Trump's closure of the CIA's Syria program. He wrote this week in the Washington Post:

Abandoning the goal of removing Assad from power will place the United States on the side of not only the barbaric Syrian regime, which has American blood on its hands dating to the early 1980s, but also Iran, Hezbollah and Russia. This is strategic folly.

Even with his impressive sounding bio as former assistant secretary of defense for special operations, low-intensity conflict and interdependent capabilities and undersecretary of defense for intelligence during the Bush and Obama administrations, Vickers will not be recognizable to most. He is the quintessential man behind the scenes - hugely influential and powerful in the national security bureaucracy and shaping military action abroad over the past four decades, yet largely out of the public eye.


Michael G. Vickers is a key US strategist who funded Afghan jihadists in the 1980's and jihadists in Syria after 2011.

But he might be more recognizable as portrayed in the 2007 movie, Charlie Wilson's War, (based on George Crile's 2003 investigative book by the same name) which depicts Congressmen Charlie Wilson's role in organizing US support for the Afghan jihad:

CIA's Afghan Jihad Mastermind

Vickers was considered the CIA's top strategic mastermind tasked with choosing weapons systems and implementing guerrilla warfare strategies for the various mujahideen groups fighting the Soviets in the 1980's war. This of course included supplying mass quantities of Raytheon's Stinger heat-seeking anti aircraft missiles to Afghan commanders like Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and others now considered notorious terrorists by the West. Hekmatyar was a close ally of Bin Laden and had a reputation of throwing acid in women's faces should they be caught participating in public life. After 9/11 Charlie Wilson admitted that he "lived in terror" that one of the hundreds of Stinger missiles which were never recovered (and whereabouts still unknown) would be used to take down a civilian airliner.

According to Crile's exhaustively researched book, Vickers was the CIA's chief strategist that made it all happen, even expanding the weapons program beyond all historical precedent in the mid-80's:

He [Vickers] was confident that the Stinger would add a lethal new dimension to the anti-aircraft mix that was already beginning to pay off. He had gone to great lengths to make sure the Afghans would be properly trained. In the past, U.S. trainers had taught the Pakistanis how to use the new weapons, and the Pakistanis had then instructed the mujahideen. This time Vickers proposed that the American specialists go into the camps dressed like mujahideen to personally supervise the training.

 

...Now that the anti-aircraft strategy was in place, Vickers insisted that his master plan, spelling out precise how the CIA should support the Afghans for the next three years was complete.

And like with the more recent Syria covert program, the massive Afghan jihad program had to be carefully shielded from public view:

And so all of Vickers's calculations had to take into account maneuvers with Swiss bank accounts, shadowy purchasing agents, safe houses, phony corporations, contracts, lawyers, disguised boats, fleets of trucks, trains, camels, donkeys, mules, warehouses, disguised satellite-targeting studies, and secret payments to the families of the fighters.

 

...By the beginning of 1986 Vickers realized he was calling the shots on 57 percent of the Directorate of Operations' total budget. He had by then grown accustomed to running the biggest CIA paramilitary campaign in history.

We all know how this ended up: an unprecedented rise in international Islamic terrorism as a permanent fixture on the world stage, horrific mass casualties of civilians in sophisticated terror bombings, the installation of the radical Taliban government in Afghanistan, the rise of al-Qaeda, and the 9/11 attacks. According to Crile the CIA was well aware of the nasty jihadist nature of the Afghan rebels it was dealing with at the time, and like with Syria of more recent years, it was warned of what would come and proceeded anyway.

Vickers: From Afghan to Syrian Jihad

With not a hint of shame, bashfulness, or recognition of the twisted irony of it all, Vickers actually invoked his prior experience overseeing the Afghan jihad in his recent Washington Post op-ed

President Ronald Reagan understood the potential of covert proxy wars to alter global power balances. Through stepped-up support for the Afghan mujahideen and other anti-Communist movements, and other, complementary strategic policies, he won the Cold War. It took the Carter and Reagan administrations more than five years to come up with a war-winning strategy (work that I helped to lead as a CIA officer) against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. The same could be done in Syria today.

At the very least, this might serve to educate the public of how the intelligence and national security deep state works: these guys never go away, criminality is rewarded (Vickers was literally praised as thinking "like a gangster" for his ability to implement nasty guerrilla tactics on shifting battlefield environments in a 2007 Washington Post profile), and it's often the same guys running the show behind the scenes of ugly covert interventions which only serve to make the world less safe for Americans.

Vickers himself, as Defense Under Secretary for Intelligence until 2015, oversaw aspects of US covert action in Syria. The man has literally gone from overseeing the CIA's covert support of Afghan mujahideen to overseeing US support for jihadists in Syria to now declaring war on Trump. The deep state has gone full circle here. But it's our sincere hope that America finally defeats all the jihadists and their enablers both at home and abroad.

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Croesus's picture

Another traitorous piece of shit?

Chuck Norris's picture

May God bless you Donald.  You're gonna need a few extra angels protecting you from these damned bastards. 

NoDebt's picture

Anything that can scare Chuck Norris scares me, too.

 

strannick's picture

Dear Mr. Vickers;

If you chose to serve Satanic power in the world, What does it gain a man to win the world and lose his soul

Dear Donald, 

If you pray as you battle these Globalist demons, then the One in you is greater than the one in the world

armada's picture

The Globalist headquarter is in the Land of the Impostors. http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-3HK

jcaz's picture

Now it's starting to get juicy....

Let's roll, motherfucker- just look at that fat piece of Statist shit......

Chupacabra-322's picture

So this Pure EvI'll War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Scum Fuck is the brains behind arming, funding & training Terror Organizations since the days of the Mujahaideen.

Everyone & the mothers should have this Mother Fucker in Cross Hairs.

Shot on Site.

Eliminated.

FreddieX's picture

Rely on mercenaries ( Known in MSM as "proxies" ) and this is what you get.  This is not new:

 

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1232/1232-h/1232-h.htm#link2HCH0012

THE PRINCE

 

by Nicolo Machiavelli

I say, therefore, that the arms with which a prince defends his state are either his own, or they are mercenaries, auxiliaries, or mixed. Mercenaries and auxiliaries are useless and dangerous; and if one holds his state based on these arms, he will stand neither firm nor safe; for they are disunited, ambitious, and without discipline, unfaithful, valiant before friends, cowardly before enemies; they have neither the fear of God nor fidelity to men, and destruction is deferred only so long as the attack is; for in peace one is robbed by them, and in war by the enemy. The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. They are ready enough to be your soldiers whilst you do not make war, but if war comes they take themselves off or run from the foe; which I should have little trouble to prove, for the ruin of Italy has been caused by nothing else than by resting all her hopes for many years on mercenaries, and although they formerly made some display and appeared valiant amongst themselves, yet when the foreigners came they showed what they were.

...

I wish to demonstrate further the infelicity of these arms. The mercenary captains are either capable men or they are not; if they are, you cannot trust them, because they always aspire to their own greatness, either by oppressing you, who are their master, or others contrary to your intentions; but if the captain is not skilful, you are ruined in the usual way.

And if it be urged that whoever is armed will act in the same way, whether mercenary or not, I reply that when arms have to be resorted to, either by a prince or a republic, then the prince ought to go in person and perform the duty of a captain; the republic has to send its citizens, and when one is sent who does not turn out satisfactorily, it ought to recall him, and when one is worthy, to hold him by the laws so that he does not leave the command. And experience has shown princes and republics, single-handed, making the greatest progress, and mercenaries doing nothing except damage; and it is more difficult to bring a republic, armed with its own arms, under the sway of one of its citizens than it is to bring one armed with foreign arms. Rome and Sparta stood for many ages armed and free. The Switzers are completely armed and quite free.

Of ancient mercenaries, for example, there are the Carthaginians, who were oppressed by their mercenary soldiers after the first war with the Romans, although the Carthaginians had their own citizens for captains.

 

vato poco's picture

finally. now that's a high-end comment, including a relevant quote from one of the world's true geniuses. haven't seen a comment like that here on ZH - not counting me, of course - in *years*. 

the best anyone can hope for nowdays from the current pack of boogereaters commenting here is bathroom limericks, and lame raps about dicks

JSBach1's picture

@Chup

I replied to your investigation rebuttal in the Obama spying thread. What say you?

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Who Is Michael Vickers? The CIA's Afghan Jihad Architect Declares War On Trump

My response: These people just keep coming out of the WOODWORK!!! America is very, very sick in many areas and these Obama holdovers need to be fired OR retired!!!

Wahooo's picture

This goes way beyond obama. He was just another shill.

new game's picture

Or? why keep these fuks alive?

Bumpo's picture

I think I hear the death rattle of a swamp creature being drained ...

Zorba's idea's picture

These are not just Owhatshisname's holdovers...these sick fucks are the embedded Deep State Rosenfields.

MaxThrust's picture

"These people just keep coming out of the WOODWORK"

I hope they keep coming out. Once the revolution starts we will know who to target.

We are going to need more than one full deck of cards to identify all the traitors.

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Re: Vickers as an "Obama holdover." No, this guy's tenure in the Deep State dates to the Reagan era. Most of these people have served in multiple administrations. That's why they are known as the 'Deep State." They were here yesterday and will be here tomorrow. Doesn't matter who the president is or whether he is an R or a D.

SilverRhino's picture

Sounds to me like 8th and I military barracks needs to be dragooned into functioning as temporary MP's while arresting the entire CIA.  

 

Arrest Langley and let the prosecutors sort it out.    Freeze all accounts and assets.   The GAO BETTER have ALL of the freaking accounts listings for that department immediately handy or they will flush that cash through the SWIFT network like a crack dealer flushing his stash down a toilet. 

SMG's picture

Hey Vickers!   How many have unnecessarily suffered or died because of you?   Burn in hell you treasonous bastard!

Zorba's idea's picture

What treachery, "making the world safe for democracy" my ass. Fuck these evil doers eternally.

Oliver Klozoff's picture

They really do hate us for our freedom, freedom from any basic moral goodness. Freedom from anything that makes America great.

Look at that slit eyed fuck, his thoughts must be black, jittery things on a blood-red horizon.

NeedtoSecede's picture

Yep, add another enemy domestic to The List...

Zorba's idea's picture

Not sure I understand the question mark Croesus..

SmittyinLA's picture

CIA spook Beacon Global Strategies, an Israeli plant with his own agenda, loot America, I smell Abengoa too.

StarGate's picture

Important piece of the Jihad puzzle of CIA operations in Mid East/ Asia to destroy the 1st bastion of civil liberty USA thru arming and training USA hating Jihadists;

and appears to be the intent to put USA under oppressive Jihad control thru funding these covert wars and the Lad B Osbama-CIA plant posing as Prez, to set up Jihad-refugee immigration programs.

tyberious's picture

It's time for Trump to finish what JFK and DDE couldn't. And that is to disband THE CIA!!!

nmewn's picture


More

The Amazon Washington Post fabricated the facts on my ending massive, dangerous, and wasteful payments to Syrian rebels fighting Assad.....

But but but...what happened to WWIII??? ;-)

Oliver Klozoff's picture

"But but but...what happened to WWIII??? ;-)"

'

You are fucking hopeless.

+1

Slippery Slope's picture

These psychopaths are not only responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians, but for the thousands of our enlisted men and women.

Wahooo's picture

Vickers and his friends and family should be tried for war crimes.

Never One Roach's picture

I wonder if Trump or other patriots will put a bounty on these seditious traitors? Some can become awfully rich given how many traitors there are out there.

currency's picture

VIKERS, MCCAIN, GRAHAM, MOREELL and etc. SCREW THE NEOCONS - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - NEOCONS LOVE WAR AND SUPPORT OF TERRIORIST LET THEM USE THEIR OWN MONEY to SUPPORT the TERRIORIST. SCREW THE NEOCONS.

vulcanraven's picture

Bring it on, faggot. 

GunnyG's picture

Disband the CIA. They've been fucking up since the Bay of Pigs!

just the tip's picture

they were fucking, up or otherwise, long before the bay of pigs.  operation mockingbird.

Chupacabra-322's picture

The Agency is Cancer. Why are we even waiting for them to kill another one of our people to act? There should be no question about the CIA's future in the US.

Dissolved & dishonored. Its members locked away or punished for Treason. Their reputation is so bad and has been for so long, that the fact that you joined them should be enough to justify arrest and Execution for Treason, Crimes Against Humanity & Crimes Against The American People.

AlexCharting's picture

CIA, CIA, CIA!!!! This is red alert people. They need to know that there will be a revolution if anything happens to Trump. They cant pull off another Kennedy hit this time around. 

AnonG-Man's picture

Anyone involved with that time period are long dead. It was sometimes called "Murder Inc." (originally a name from the 1930s-40s) a term even uttered by Lyndon Baine Johnson in the Atlantic's 1973 issue "The Last Days of The President."  The 'accepted' History of events are largely cemented in an official capacity over time, so even "if" a domestic agency is capable of outsourcing hired murderers; they can and would get away with it considering the vast nature of government and the huge leap in technology since then.  If such things were revealed as truths it would be a national scandal.  Case in point, "conspiracy" topics are and always have been relegated as a Cottage Industry regardless if some appear at face value to have more 'truth' than others. 

Another example that has less to do with this topic, for example, the ongoing crisis in Ukraine - it is accepted as historical 'fact' as a "Russian Invasion" despite the overthrow of Ukraine's government being described as the "most blatant coup in history" performed by the U.S. and even with now first hand video evidence ignored by U.S. media documenting crimes committed by 21st Century Nazi's (Roses Have Thorns - Watch Dog Media Institute / 8 Months in Ukraine).

Yen Cross's picture

    If you want to fund your XY freakshow, [  heterogametic sex.] do it on your OWN dime.

 Most of the pansy assed Men I know, look more like women than you do.

 Go play weekend dress-up off the taxpayers dime.

galant's picture

Michael G. Vickers.

A product of his times.

Now it's time to flush that sewer.

wisehiney's picture

Looks like the neocons and the Trump haters that post here are running out of ammo.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Trump has absolutely nothing to do with it.

He's a "weathervane" and will remain one as long as Mnuchin, Yellen occupy there offices.

Contradiction?...

Explain his pre-Superbowl soul searching chat with Billdo about Russia "bad" killer / America "good" killer... Followed by the bombings of Syria, Yemen and idle threats on North Korea over "beautiful chocolate cake"?

Suffice it to say he's in the clubhouse with the rest of them and doesn't care about what's done in his name just like President(s) 36 -44!

MarsInScorpio's picture

Son of Captain Nemo:

This is for you, and all the other dumb asses out there that bitch that Trump hasn't turned shit into shineola in just 6-months . . .

1) He is up against the most massive rebellion (written as a literal description of the so-called "resistance") ever seen since the War Between the States.

Have you already forgotten the in-your-face insurrection by an acting DOJ leader against defending Trump's immigration order? She should have been doing life at Leavenworth, however, because he didn't have an AG yet, and the courts are active members of the insurrection underway, he was limited to termination.

Had he had the government he needs to carry out his promises, she would be wearing orange for the rest of her sexually disoriented life.

2) And speaking of the courts, the prediction of Pres. Thomas Jefferson in 1819 that "the Constitution will become whatever a judge says that it is," has proven painfully true through the judicial insurrection against the Constitution illustrated most powerfully by some mental midget of an Obama slimeball named Watson.

The concept that a single person, unelected, with no popular mandate whatsoever for his or her rulings, in a branch of government that is without question lacking any checks or balances by the other two branches (Can the president order a judge to do this or that the way a judge orders the president? Can Congress tell the Judiciary, by fiat, its ruling is null and void? The check and balance the Framers saw for the Executive over the Judiciary was to ignore the court's order - it's consistent with the option of the Executive whether to enforce a valid statute. More on all this idea later where it can be fleshed out.)

3) How do you know the president isn't building up defensible, aggressive, powerful cases to present to a Grand Jury to start indicting people such as the psychotic sociopath, serial mass murderer, sub-human, war criminal, Vickers? Or the same personality and mental description for Hillary Clinton and her entire collection of psychos? Or Loretta Lynch, Susan Rice, Clapper, Holder, the FED Board in criminal collusion with the Wall Street bankers . . . oh yeah, let's not forget Lois Lerner.

4) On the subject of Hillary, can any person of open mind and reasonable intelligence still Buy the Lie that all the people who were in one way or another at odds with her and Bill and their Clinton Crime Clan continue to believe ALL the deaths are unrelated and random?

The point when it became overwhelmingly UNREASONABLE, yea, it is UNHINGED and disconnected to any rational interpretation of Reality to Buy the Lie arrived with Seth Rich.The assassination of the man testifying against the Clinton child-trafficking  in Haiti is a coup d'grace to anyone who believes it is not a serial murder syndicate.

++++++

That's it for tonight. However, for you, Son of Captain Nemo, and all your equally deranged apologists, I close with this pronouncement on you, and your ilk: E S & D.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Yes of course MIS

And ALL because people like you voted for him and you'll keep doing what you do best "from your armchair" watching him on TV every night praising him which will shortly turn into "on your knees" worship because you wouldn't take it "on your feet" to Washington!

You're the quintessential example of why this Country will fail with several of these (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQfwMKAeCPI) UP IT'S ASS!!!

I guess you can thank Mr Vickers getting promoted by the last 9 President(s) when they all should have been swinging from the ends of ropes!

passerby's picture

Too big to flail?

Lost in translation's picture

Anything happens to Trump, lotsa' NeoCons be going "bye-bye..."