California Moves One Step Closer To Declaring Independence From US Government

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Authored by Carey Wedler via,

After a bid to launch a California secession movement failed in April, a more moderate ballot measure has been approved, and its backers now have 180 days to attain nearly 600,000 signatures in order to put it up to vote in the 2018 election.

The Yes California movement advocated full-on secession from the rest of the country, and it gained steam after Donald Trump won the presidential election in 2016. However, as the Sacramento Bee noted, that attempt failed to gather the signatures needed and further floundered after it was accused of having ties to Russia.

But as the Los Angeles Times reported this week:

On Tuesday afternoon, Atty. Gen. Xavier Becerra’s office released an official title and summary for the initiative, now called the ‘California Autonomy From Federal Government’ initiative.

The new measure that seeks to set up an advisory commission to inform California’s governor on ways to increase independence from the federal government. It would reportedly cost $1.25 million per year to fund “an advisory commission to assist the governor on California’s independence plus ‘unknown, potentially major, fiscal effects if California voters approved changes to the state’s relationship with the United States at a future election after the approval of this measure,’” the Los Angeles Times reported.

With Becerra’s approval, its backers can now seek the nearly 600,000 signatures required to place the measure on the 2018 ballot.

As the outlet explained:

The initiative wouldn’t necessarily result in California exiting the country, but could allow the state to be a ‘fully functioning sovereign and autonomous nation’ within the U.S.’”

According to the Attorney General’s official document on the measure, it still appears to advocate secession as the ultimate goal — even if it doesn’t use the term outright.“Repeals provision in California Constitution stating California is an inseparable part of the United States,” the text explains, noting that the governor and California congress members would be expected “to negotiate continually greater autonomy from federal government, up to and including agreement establishing California as a fully independent country, provided voters agree to revise the California Constitution.”

Marcus Ruiz Evans, who is backing this new measure, previously served as Vice President of Yes California before it was pulled in April.

The relationship between California and the federal system just isn’t working,” Evans has said. He is now behind the movement to push through the more tempered approach. Though some critics claim California would fail due to its massive debt, advocates point to the state’s massive economy, ranked fifth largest in the world. It boasts a large agricultural industry, a massive entertainment and “culture” industrySilicon Valley, and an ever-expanding legal cannabis market.

There are also other efforts in California to break away from the federal government. Jed Wheeler is the general secretary of the California National Party and says he is “looking a dozen or more years down the road when its candidates hold office,” the Los Angeles Times reported in April when the original Yes California movement was floundering.

[T]he idea of having a ballot initiative is seductive and appeals to a lot of people,” Wheeler argued. “[Y]ou can’t harvest the crop without the work of planting the seeds, then tilling the soil and all that stuff first.

There is also a longstanding movement to establish a 51st state called Jefferson, which would include parts of northern California and southern Oregon. That effort has been underway since after World War II.

Regardless of the method or strategy — or their effectiveness — resistance to the federal government is growing in California and elsewhere. There are also secession movements in Vermont, Texas, New Hampshire, and Hawaii.

As Anti-Media observed shortly after the 2016 election:

“People are rioting and protesting over Trump’s win throughout California but celebrating in Alabama, and against the backdrop of an ever-encroaching federal government, it appears these differences are growing difficult to reconcile.


“This election put the deep societal rifts between left, right, and those in between on stark display, and the degree of hate and animosity is palpable.”

Now that Trump has taken office, these differences are all the more glaring and are likely to grow as time goes on.

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TruxtonSpangler's picture

I would vote for this (and then move out of CA)

HillaryOdor's picture

Fuck letting them secede.  I say we kick them out first.

Any state that keeps electing Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, and Diane Feinstein is obviously full of insane people.  These are the best people you can come up with?  I don't want any of these people even voting.

Arizona you're on notice too.

TBT or not TBT's picture

CA is divorced from reality already. Whatever floats their boat.

remain calm's picture

Hopefully the fault line will accomadate them and give them a liitle space too

max2205's picture

So none of my tax dollars will go to fagafornia ? Okey then !

MillionDollarButter's picture

The place will be desert in 40 years, so what's the point?

StarGate's picture

Arizona will claim the waters of the Colorado River belong to them.

Creative_Destruct's picture

And California must send back the money for the high speed rail.

stacking12321's picture

I support this, and all secession movements.

The more government is broken down into smaller, more localized units, the better for everyone (except the globalists)

merizobeach's picture

"its backers now have 180 days to attain nearly 600,000 signatures in order to put it up to vote in the 2018 election."

That's misleading.  The 585K valid signatures required to qualify to the ballot means the proponents will need to gather around a million signatures to ensure they have enough that are valid.

Slomotrainwreck's picture

Rip stars off the flag until there is nothing but "bars". Apropos for the remaining federalies.

There would be a war with Mexico and they'd take back their land.

JRobby's picture

They can just raise tsxes and it will all be good.........

TruthHunter's picture



The constitutions of Vermont and Texas contain exit clauses. California doesn't.


 I relish a civil war with this trash...After we collapse their economy with tarriffs and blockades.


Watch how quickly Mexico would build a wall !

The Big Ching-aso's picture

Escape From California

Snowflake Pliskin?

froze25's picture

How do I support this? The Dems will never allow it to happen.

eatthebanksters's picture

Clickbait headline....its never going to happen.

kochevnik's picture

Allowing soverign territory to be stolen from the great people of America is a blatant act of Mexican aggression !  The California Cherokee are stranded without representation or autonomy, and have no voice in the naked power grab

Dead Canary's picture

This already exists in the Bill of Rights! It's called the 10th Amendment. But if they pushed that, other states would want to pass their own laws. And red states would pass the WRONG laws. Non PC laws.

Californee want's to be free of the US gooberment, they just don't want anyone else to be free.

TBT or not TBT's picture

Yep. They infringe the 2A 24/7/365 statewide since banning open carry, given the already near impossibility of getting a CCW in much of the state. And then the there is the sanctuary city shit and benefits and DL for illegals.

NidStyles's picture

Except the state doesn't belong to its current residents. The majority of those people don't belong in the US.

aPocketofResistance's picture

Trump got more votes from California than in any other state, we're just way outnumbered by leftists.

NidStyles's picture

Voter fraud...

I live in AZ and I meet illegals all over the place. They are everywhere. Can't imagine in California, a state that harbors these criminals.

stacking12321's picture

If you're not a Native American, then you're an illegal, an an unwanted invader, go back to wherever your people came from.

IntTheLight's picture

Native Americans are native to Asia. They migrated here and most likely killed off the true natives.

kochevnik's picture

True original natives were white, the Solutrean

phaedrus1952's picture

Counties Modoc and Lassen voted over 70% for Trump, amongst the highest in the country.

Shasta, Tehama and Glenn counties over 60%.

25 of 58 California counties favored  Trump.

A huge portion of California's wealth arises in these areas.

Should secessionist fervor accelerate, the liberals are apt to be in for quite a surprise.

JRobby's picture

Lassen is a beautiful area. 

knukles's picture

Oh, now all of a sudden they want state's rights out here instead of the Pan Galactic Order.


They hate Trump because he makes them feel bad.
Because so far he's not changed their reality as to laws and economics one fucking bit.

Stuck on Zero's picture

Can I name the new California entity?

The Sovereign Socialist Republic of Snowflakes & MoonBeamers


knukles's picture

What this is, is the re-imposition of the 10th Amendment.
"Powers delegated shall be limited .... "


Another Law of Unintended Consequences

phaedrus1952's picture

+1000, Knuks.

And just wait till this picks up momentum at the county and regional level.

With 38 million people - WAY the fuck bigger than  Canada, Australia and dozens of other countries -past time to give 'em what they're asking for ...their very own space.


jimmy c korn's picture

They will need a new currency too.

Instead of the greenback, why not the wetback?

HardAssets's picture

The Chinese would completely own them in 10 years and half the population would be Mexicans.

Stuck on Zero's picture

All the population would be Chinese citizens. You see, long before whiteman arrived in California Chinese junks were journeying there and laying claim to the West. Therfore California belongs to China. The Pacific Ocean would then be renamed the Great China Sea.

JRobby's picture

Needed them to build the railroads eastward.

So the history of the rich exploitation goes way, way, way back.

Well before 1776

The Wizard's picture

Your assuming the 10th amendment exist with its original intent intact. Sorry, the government was taken over and converted to a corporate entitiy in 1871. The Constitution went with it and is now under the rules of commerce.

lincolnsteffens's picture

All the States are supposed to be independent Nation States. The Constitution of the USA was supposed to be a framework whereby the Federal Government was created to mediate border disputes between the states, regulate inter-state commerce as well as provide for the defense of the whole. Over the years the Federal Government has become a dictator to the States subordinating the states as mere subsidiaries of the Federal Government.

If California wants to be what the founders envisioned, it would be The California Republic not the State of California. Who cares what California does. If they rebel against all the Federal mandates they will have to give up taking money from Uncle Sugar. which is how we all got into this mess in the first place. The" Republic" is the land made by the Creator and the "State of" is an entity made up in the mind of man.

TahoeBilly2012's picture

The view from the Southern Wall from State of Jefferson down into Alta California, the newest Mexican State, will be striking. SOJ with nicely paved roads and then Alta California, a literal war zone.

Bes's picture

"So none of my tax dollars will go to fagafornia ? Okey then !"

they don't go at all. 

Cali is a net giver to the federal government

most "red states" are net receivers

be careful what you wish for.


knukles's picture

Which is the way it should be;
The Blue states are the commie rat ass bastards who want to share and they do indeed share.

See, they really are practicing Commies!
Do Not Let Them Tell You Otherwise

True Blue's picture

How can a net 'giver' to the Federal Gov't be so far in debt then? Don't you have to have a fiscal policy "in the black" in order to "give" anything?


bonin006's picture

It can easily be that way. Consider the case of a single, hard working taxpayer that makes $200,000 per year and pays say $50K or $60K to the feds. He is almost certainly a net "giver" (to use the term loosely). Now suppose he has a $500,000 house with an $800,000 mortgage (due to bad timing), and $200,000 in credit card debt, $150,000 spent on gambling, prostitutes and liqueur. The other $50,000 he just wasted. That is how you (or a state) can be a net federal tax payer and also be heavily in debt. California is in debt because lifeguards with $250,000 pensions seems normal to CA mobsters, er, I mean politicians. 

lincolnsteffens's picture

Why do you have to have a surplus to give. The Federal Gov. is bankrupt but the Fed Res. keeps lending it more digits to give out.

JRobby's picture

Shhhh, don't give the game away. Debt = Control

Scuba Steve's picture

Is this like Federal Debt trick question kind of answer?

You are fukkin dreaming if you think they are a net giver ... JFC, go smoke another spliff before you have your sex change.

401K of Dooom's picture

Hi, mind providing citations on your claims?  Oh better yet call me a racist and demand that I apoligize!  When your state has a higher enrollment in Medicare / Medicaid than sixteen other states, can you really say that you are a revenue source to the rest of the country?  Try it and here are my sources:

California’s Medicaid/CHIP Enrollees Outnumber Populations of 44 States

February 17, 2017 MJA Uncategorized 14

( – The number of people enrolled in Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) in California alone exceeds the total populations of 44 of the other states of the union, according to data published by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) and the Census Bureau.

As of Jan. 1, 2014, states joining Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion could enroll people in the federal-state program under new, relaxed eligibility requirements. California was one of those states.

In the fall of 2013, the Obamacare exchanges opened to enroll people in health insurance plans for 2014.

The average number of Medicaid/CHIP enrollees in California in July-September 2013—the last quarter before the Obamacare exchanges opened–was 7,755,381, according to CMS.

By November 2016, the latest month for which CMS numbers are available, the number of Medicaid/CHIP enrollees in California was 12,209,605.  MORE




Now go and choke on it!