Crypto Veteran Explains Bitcoin's "Software Update" And Recent Price Moves

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By Valentin Schmid of The Epoch Times

After a spectacular run up to $3,000, Bitcoin prices have been choppy, falling as low as $1,830. However, they reversed and rallied more than $1.000 in just a few days after a software upgrade called Segregated Witness (SegWit) was confirmed, which will allow Bitcoin to perform more transactions and develop different functionalities.

Epoch Times spoke to Bitcoin expert Trace Mayer about SegWit, the problem with the Bitcoin miners, other crypto coins, and expectations of price movement going forward.

Epoch Times: It looks like Bitcoin is getting a major upgrade with Segregated Witness. Can you explain?

Trace Mayer: It lays the platform for Bitcoin to scale and it also lays a big platform for extensibility. We’re going to be able to do all types of things because it is also a fix for something called transaction malleability. By fixing a lot of these things with Segregated Witness, Bitcoin is just going to be so much more. It’s a really, really big upgrade.

There are some vested interests, whether in the Bitcoin community or outside of the Bitcoin community, that have not wanted to see Segregated Witness activated. So, it’s been a long, protracted fight. But it looks like it’s going to get activated and Bitcoin will be on its way.

Epoch Times: Why did it take so long?

Mr. Mayer: It’s been two years in the making. If we had something like a Facebook, or a Google, and let’s say that that you only needed five percent of the voting shares in order to completely stop any future growth or development of the company, well, guess what?

So in the board rooms, you fight all the time. But with proxy voting you can have control of some of these very large corporations and get stuff done with inactive votes or people abstaining. But with Bitcoin, when you want to change something, you have to actively get a very large chunk of votes.

You have to gets votes from users who are using the wallet software, that performs network consensus. You have to get votes from the miners who are processing transactions in blocks. You have to have a super majority from everybody in order to maintain distributive consensus, or you’ll have what’s called “a fork” or a split of the blockchain. So anybody with even a very small percentage can exercise a veto. So Bitcoin has a whole different type of governance than a normal company.

And so, if you want to move upgrades forward, you have to have super majority consensus from millions of people and that’s a hard thing to achieve. So with Segregated Witness finally looking like it’s going to activate, Bitcoin’s rising up to a whole new level, because it’s being upgraded in terms of scale and extensibility.

And I think that’s being reflected in the price, because it’s going to have so many more use cases in the future. So investors who are buying and holding it today are looking at this saying: “The uncertainty about the path of Bitcoin going forward is getting cleared up, therefore we’ll buy and hold it because it’ll be so much more useful in the future.”


Veteran Bitcoin expert Trace Mayer has been involved in Bitcoin since
2011 and is also a major investor in many related start ups

Epoch Times: But you say this is not a done deal yet.

Mr. Mayer: Right. We’re not out of the woods yet. We’ve only locked in what’s called BIP 91. We have another, couple hundred Bitcoin blocks before we start enforcing BIP 91, and miners will be the ones enforcing that.

And then even after that gets enforced, we need two weeks in order for BIP 141 to be activated. And then we have another two weeks before we actually start enforcing that. So the earliest time SegWit could be active and functioning on the network is mid-August.

Miners could be liars. They’ve proven that in the past when they have signaled falsely. So you get all types of Machiavellian games. But it does appear that we’ve gotten consensus.

People are starting to signal they are going for SegWit and people are relying on that. It’s really not in the miners’ best interest to disrupt this process any more than they already have. They stand to lose the most amount of money because they’re the only ones who have to actively choose which fork to follow, and that has the economic consequences.

Everybody else can just sit and hold and see how it plays out but doesn’t have to make an economic choice.

Epoch Times: Aren’t the miners just service providers for the users?

Mr. Mayer: The work they do has value because individuals and users of Bitcoin place value on that work. If miners do work that users do not value, then miners will lose a lot of money in the process. And then they won’t be miners anymore because they’ll go bankrupt.

Miners can’t fire anybody. The people who hire and fire are the people who hold Bitcoin and who use Bitcoin. The way they determine who they’re going to hire or fire is based on what software they run. And 99.1 percent of the people who interact with the Bitcoin network are using the Bitcoin core software because it’s the safest, the most reliable, the most secure.

But these miners think they can top-down authoritarian control Bitcoin because the work they do provides value either way. What they’ve found is that the more they try to squeeze their grip on the Bitcoin community, the more they’re just grasping at air.

Users and consumers should presume as a fundamental premise that miners are hostile and malicious to Bitcoin users and consumers. They’re not to be trusted. They’re a rattlesnake to be on your highest guard against.

Bitcoin’s been very much an open source community project where there’s been a lot of good will. People have presumed that other people are acting with good intentions, that they have Bitcoin’s best interest at heart. It’s been very collegial.

But this two-year-long debate around SegWit revealed that these miners are not to be trusted. This sets up a whole different type of game theory in the way that you interact with other people in the ecosystem. The Miners burned their bridges with a lot of people in the Bitcoin community.

At the end of the day, it has been very good because it helps Bitcoin become even stronger and more censorship resistant. You can think of it like the body getting a nasty cold or flu. It’s not any fun while you have it but if it doesn’t kill you, it makes you stronger because you increase your immune system and your ability to respond.

Epoch Times: What’s your opinion on some of the other coins in the space?

Mr. Mayer: None of them really have like a good, decentralized, peer-to-peer, censorship resistance, scalable, liquid, secure, way of protecting and storing value. And that’s why Bitcoin is king of the mountain.

That’s not to say that there isn’t a lot of fun going on and that you can’t make a lot of money with these altcoins. We have a lot of really cool projects going on and a lot of fun tech, but don’t pretend that you’ve got the security, the liquidity, and the scalability that Bitcoin has. Nobody is even close.

Epoch Times: What do you think the price is going to do in the near future?

Mr. Mayer: I think if we’re going to continue having turbulence. I think between now and probably the end of the year, after the November decision on 2x the issues get definitively resolved.

Then I think the price is going to be significantly higher. You never know, of course Bitcoin’s always wild and crazy, but the thing is, it just might actually turn into something, so perhaps, you should acquire a little bit of it.

And that’s really what people have to do, they have to develop their own human capital to learn how to buy Bitcoin, sell Bitcoin, secure Bitcoin. And even if you’re doing this with just a $50 or $100 bucks, you’re getting the technical literacy.

So if you wanted to move larger amounts in, you could confidently do it without losing your money. And so all of that takes time and diligence and hard work for people to do, which is why we see these waves of adoption and usage happening. Which means that there’s going to be lots of upside potential with Bitcoin for many, many years to come.

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Finally, here courtesy of CoinDesk, is a quick timeline of BitCoin Cash following its imminent August 1 launch:

We're less than 24 hours away from the launch of Bitcoin Cash.

Whether you're worried, interested or excited, you can't deny that the event – which will likely see a new cryptocurrency created from the existing bitcoin blockchain – will have ramifications on the larger ecosystem.

In this article, I'm going to go over the different things you can expect in the next few days.

July 31

As you may have seen on social media, exchanges and merchants are currently scrambling to prepare for the fork.

At a minimum, these custodians of customer bitcoins will want to record customer balances right before the hard fork so they can untangle who's entitled to what later. (Or risk facing accounting challenges).

More adventurous exchanges are preparing to list Bitcoin Cash as a separate asset, though this presents its own problems.

For one, listing a cryptocurrency that hasn't launched could prove difficult. Also, once markets are live, trading is likely to be choppy. (Part of what caused crazy volatility during the Zcash launch was that so few exchanges supported it during the first few days.)

This probably won't be the case as many exchanges have already committed to supporting the trade of Bitcoin Cash, but it bears watching.

We can expect many exchanges to freeze withdrawals in preparation of the above.

August 1, 00:00 UTC

This is the expected time of the BIP 148 UASF launch.

Because the bitcoin network is already enforcing BIP 91, this should be a non-event. That is, BIP 148 won't split the network and bitcoin will continue as a single chain.

August 1, 12:20 UTC

Bitcoin Cash will launch.

At this point, miners that are mining Bitcoin Cash will create a transaction block greater than 1 MB in size and fork the bitcoin network.

There are a few scenarios here that depend on the percentage of hash power that the new blockchain attracts:

  • If less than 16% of bitcoin's current hash power transitions to Bitcoin Cash, the first block will likely take over an hour. This won't affect the bitcoin blockchain that much, though on average, blocks should take a little longer than 10 minutes.
  • If 17-50% of hash power moves to mining Bitcoin Cash, the first block will likely take between 20 minutes to an hour. This will slow down the bitcoin blockchain somewhat. Blocks on bitcoin will take between 12-20 minutes.
  • If more than 50% of hash power is mining Bitcoin Cash, the first block will likely take less than 20 minutes. This will slow down the bitcoin blockchain significantly. Blocks on bitcoin will take longer than 20 minutes on average.

During this time, users will likely begin sending Bitcoin Cash to exchanges that both list the cryptocurrency and that have vowed to continue operations through the fork.

We can expect that the exchanges that accept Bitcoin Cash deposits first will have a lot of activity, and that initial trading will likely cause some significant price volatility due to reduced liquidity.

As for transaction approvals, even with low hashing power, we can expect the Bitcoin Cash mempool to be relatively empty since the network's blocks will be relatively big.

At 12.5% hash power, the mempool on Bitcoin Cash will clear at about the same rate as bitcoin. That said, confirmations will be much slower for the coin with less hash power until difficulty adjusts.

August 3–7

If Bitcoin Cash has relatively low hashing power, we can expect some difficulty adjustments at this time. Most scenarios result in something close to 10-minute block times provided the hash power stays constant.

This is probably not a safe assumption as miners will likely be switching between Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash depending on which one is more profitable.

Bitcoin Cash will be much easier to mine after the difficulty adjustments, and we may get some relatively fast blocks (2.5 minutes or less) until we hit block 479,808.

August 8–14

SegWit should lock in on bitcoin around this time.

Depending on how much mining power moves over to Bitcoin Cash, and how much new mining power shows up, lock-in on block 479,808 on bitcoin may take longer than expected.

Once lock in is achieved, the code will be activated later this month, effectively upgrading the main bitcoin blockchain to support larger-capacity transactions.

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Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

Free BitCoins for everybody!!!

FreeShitter's picture

Im 50/50 BTC/LTC as of now. Got in at a  good entry for BTC.

Zero_Ledge's picture

Remember, it's the exit that counts.  (Unless your planning on spending it ?)

I think you're nuts, but wish you good luck with it.

johngaltfla's picture

If you don't hold it physically, you don't own it. The Cryptocurrency crash will be epic...

The Ultimate Bitcoin Crash Nightmare

 

(and here come the down votes from the cryptogeeks)

Raffie's picture

In short, unless you have a crystal ball that works with %100 accuracy, you can no more tell the future then we do.

I see cryptos getting adopted on a global scale by countries and companies. I see both side to cryptos and PM.

Can print out a paper wallet so I can hold it so there for I do own it. Also my hardware wallet.

We all know you CHers (Crypto Haters) wish all of us to lose everything so you can feel good about your PM game called "NOW WE PLAY THE WAITING GAME"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLJQT3jbd5I

 

 

Madison's_Ghost's picture

I'll just assume you dont have a checking account then, hmm?

HRH Feant2's picture

Or a credit or debit card? Hard to make them work when there is no electricity. Even if you have cash, have you seen any non-electric cash registers lately? Or a cashier that can do math in their head and give you correct change? Heck, the grocery store doesn't even list the prices anymore! Everything is either a barcode or a number they input into their register which is powered by electricity! Good luck pumping gas, too! No electricity? No gas!

If their is an EMP we are going to have way bigger problems than worrying about BTC. I think the likelihood of an EMP is 50/50. Which is why I also have preps in my garage. Just in case.

MaxThrust's picture

"The Cryptocurrency crash will be epic"

I don't hold any Bitcoin and won't buy any now that the price is so high. If there is a crash Bitcoin will probably be one of the few survivors if any. That said the Deepstate see Crypto-coins as a threat to their monopoly on creating currency from nothing. My guess is they a spending big to try and sink this ship.

Yellow_Snow's picture

I'm 25% BTC / 25% ETH / 25% LTC / 25% other ALT's

Buy Bitcoin :)

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Lets list our top reasons to buy Bitcoin:

1)  You have illicit wealth in China that you want to get out of the country (to avoid capital controls, in other words).

2) You hope to make a 4x or a tenbagger, in the period of 1-2 years.

3) .................

johngaltfla's picture

And when the electricity goes out and there is no internet where you live due to a North Korean EMP, you can suck your own dick like Steve Bannon does.

Raffie's picture

So the NK EMP will kill all internet and electricity on a global scale? Once the power and internet is down it will never come back on? Interesting, please tell us more before it all goes away......

You haters know nothing but hate. You are nothing but animal spirits.

thx.. I needed that...... good stuff...

 

FreeShitter's picture

IKR? negativity is a soul killer.

Raffie's picture

I think most of these haters own cryptos and just want to be jerks.

The saying of "methinks they protest too much" comes to mind reading their comments.

FreeShitter's picture

I dont think so. I think most here are really diehard gold and silverbugs and OR just missed out bigly on the crypto rally. I love my shiny, its the perfect insurance, but cryptos are allowing me to buy all the wants/necessities I need. FUCK STOCKS, this shitshow can die already and it needs to.

Raffie's picture

I got Au and Ag as well and my cryptos.

Just don't get the narrow minded hard core stackers that view life with EYES WIDE SHUT.... whatever. Every currenecy will have its time to shine.

PM will shine when everything is in total ruins and nations collapse, but if they want to wait for that, ok.

Cryptos now, PM later...

dark pools of soros's picture

3.....you like betting on sports and see the online bookies take it now

The central planners's picture

3... I dont wanna be called stupid for not jumping the train like everyone else.

Advoc8tr's picture

3)  After bitching and maoning for years about centralized control, fiat money and the overreach of money I actually put my money where my mouth is and supported what I believe to be a solution rather than just continue to bitch and moan on a blog.

Reichstag Fire Dept.'s picture

3) The European Union is planning capital controls for upcoming potential bank runs.

Check the price action on BTC when Cyprus and Greece had capital controls and bail-ins implemented. BTC moved up significantly!

Ther choice became either lose 100% above $100,000.oo Euros or ride the volatility on BTC and preserve some capital value.

This scenario will play out again. And, again. And again... Btw, the money that was bailed-in in Cyprus was Russian money, by and large.

Good sense would be to at least open the door to BTC to you can move if you have to.

tmosley's picture

3. you believe in the separation of money and state.

4. you see how easy transactions would be in crypto vs gold and silver (no need for change NOR TRUST--can't send tungsten salted coins)

5. declining energy/personel costs for miners won't cause inflation.

6. you actually see crypto swallowing the entire monetary and debt complex, resulting in orders of magnitude more gains than 2.

Raffie's picture

Was to much BTC will do this, and BTC will do that..

So hearing LTC will do great in the next 3-4 months.

Based on how many I got will hold LTC then after spike will use Exodus to convert back to BTC.

 

dussasr's picture

Honest question - why buy LTC when you could buy DASH?  DASH has instant transactions, private transactions and developers and node ownders are paid by the network itself so there's less worry about interference from 3rd parties.

Raffie's picture

The main 3 cryptos I like is BTC/ETH/LTC rest are ok, just not interested in them.

I know Dash just went up with Apple allowing it to buy from their store.

 

FreeShitter's picture

Like Dash love Zcash but the big 3 are the $$$$ makers in the longrun.

HRH Feant2's picture

I agree. I wasn't sure what would happen with BTC and BCC but there was a fork with Etherium, too. ETH and ETC. Which one has increased? ETH.

tmosley's picture

>tfw you sold Dash at $20 because you needed money and didn't want to liquidate silver

I really like Dash. Don't know why it or one of the other privacy centered cryptos isn't in the top three. Have 5% of my portfolio in it, and probably won't ever sell it until something better comes along. Learned my lesson last time.  Same with the rest of the crypto. This is for holding, or trading for other crypto as deemed necessary.

FreeShitter's picture

I took a big risk with it due to the aug HF, but so far im up pretty good and happy I swapped out half my LTC for some BTC. 

Raffie's picture

When LTC bumps to $100 or higher I will make more then if I left it in BTC.

Next big ICO I'm jumping into is KIN and it is well worth a look at.

Advoc8tr's picture

PPT (Populous) aslo look promising. P2P blockchain invoice factoring.

Raffie's picture

Pop looks great, just wish I didn't miss the ICO.

I'm into Tezos and Pillar and when its ready KIN.

True Contrarian's picture

"Yes there are two paths you can go by but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on."

Some 70s band.

Seasmoke's picture

They should all be just buying physical Gold ....

FreeShitter's picture

Most of if not all already have the phyzz.  AU, AG, BTC, LTC is my gig along with the porno mags, food, h20 purification, weps, ammo and land.

Raffie's picture

You need to see at night as well.

Here is the one I got. Also got helment and mount.

https://www.readymaderesources.com/product/pvs-14-3rd-gen-night-vision-m...

 

I can easily see miles away in the dark with this.

Consider geting some bear traps as well to use when SHTF.

HRH Feant2's picture

I own both physical gold and silver. (Nearly 100 pounds of silver). BTC was a way to diversify my holdings. .009 percent of my total holdings to be exact.

Anarchyteez's picture

Smart. I'd increase it substantially too.

HRH Feant2's picture

I have been able to increase my initial BTC investment by more than 100% in three months. I trade on GDAX which I like much better than the basic Coinbase account.

As a techie and long-time gamer I had to jump in and try it!

Oh, so far GDAX has been stable all day, today (7.31). They have a small warning saying they could go offline due to the transition but, so far, everything is going well. BTC has been stable and trading over $2800 USD all day. Not bad!

HRH Feant2's picture

Good article. I got into BTC a few months ago and only have a few hundred in it. If I lose that money? No big deal. If BTC keeps increasing, that is fine too. Learning how to buy, sell, and trade it has been interesting.

pparalegal's picture

And please buy one or more of my many books.

DavidFL's picture

How old do you think that guy is - 25, perhaps 27. My forecast is that this whole blockchain experiment will blow sky high soon and some "really smart" folks will be looking like fools. Lest we forget, Blythe Masters (and hubby) is actively engaged in this space. She is there for a reason - and its not for any investors benefit! Caveat emptor.

NurseRatched's picture

If Trace is 25, then he is too damn old to be a legi Bitcoin expert.

Cutter's picture

Am I the only one who notes the irony of a Bitcoin guy trashing other cryptocurrencies because they aren't "scalable, secure, and liquid?"

CJgipper's picture

Yeah, talk your book much, LOL!  

 

Ether?  Ripple?  Litecoin?  Just other altcoins with a total market cap exceeding that of bitcoin, right?

dasein211's picture

That's one of the only disagreements I have with this interview. Ripple is faster. Dash is more malleable. Zcash is more for privacy. Really are some good options. I think when Dash releases the Evolution platform we will see some real game changing shit. Micro payments are going to be huge.

dussasr's picture

Love DASH!  DASH is underrated for privacy, though.  No DASH PrivateSend transaction has ever been de-anonymized.

Advoc8tr's picture

BTC back to all time highs @ $2900 ... everything else -50%  ... so far.