Tesla Burns A Record $13 Million Per Day In Q2... And It's About To Get Worse

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One month after Tesla stock tumbled when the electric car maker announced that it had missed Wall Street estimates for the second quarter, delivering only 22,000 vehicles instead of the 22,912 expected, moments ago Tesla reported adjusted, non-GAAP Q2 earnings which beat expectations, with an adjusted loss of $1.33, better than the -$1.88 expected, which curiously was identical to the -1.33 loss in Q1. 

In the second quarter, Tesla generated revenue of $2.79 billion, also better than the $2.51 billion expected, and reported that Q2 Automotive gross margin was 25.0% non-GAAP, below the 25.48% expected.

Tesla continued to burn cash, and in the second quarter it outdid not only itself but Netflix too, with a record cash burn of -$1.16 billion - or roughly $13 million per day - almost double what it burned in Q1. In Q3, Tesla's CapEx was $959 million, a number which is set to surge as the Model 3 launch continued well into into Q3: Tesla expects it will burn another $2 billion in CapEx in the second half.

Understandably, the cash burning behemoth was proud to announce that it had more than $3 billion in cash on hand at the end of Q2. There is just one problem, and this wasn't announced in the letter: Tesla also $3.9 billion in accounts payable and accrued liabilities, as the company drains all net working capital sources of cash it can find. Meanwhile, accounts receivable actually declined. This was the first quarter in which paybales and accrued were nearly $1 billion more than cash and equivalents!

In terms of deliveries, there were no surprises: as the company already disclosed, it delivered 22,026 Model S and Model X vehicles in Q2, a total of 47,077 in the first half of the year. Model S and Model X combined. Ever optimistic, the company projected that Model S and Model X deliveries will increase in 2H’17 vs 1H’17. Of course, they better or else the company will badly miss its full year estimates.  Tesla also said it is confident it can produce just over 1,500 of its brand new Model 3 vehicles 3Q. Further, Tesla said it was averaging over 1,800 net Model 3 reservations per day since the unveiling last week.

Specifically on the rampup of Model 3, Tesla said that it is confident it can produce just over 1,500 vehicles in Q3, and achieve a run rate of 5,000 vehicles per week by the end of 2017, while it continues to plan on increasing Model 3 production to 10,000 vehicles per week at some point in 2018.

As long as there are no more 100kWh battery pack fiascoes of course. And speaking of that, why was there no discussion in the letter about yesterday's unexpected departure of Tesla's chief battery engineer?

Looking ahead, Tesla expects Model 3 to be (non-Gaap( gross margin Positive in 4Q, but first, in Q3 Model 3 gross margins will tumble as they will be impacted by "excessive allocation of labor and overhead costs and depreciation over tiny volume." As a result, Musk warned Tesla's adjusted automotive gross margin will drop below 20% in 3Q. Translation: even more cash burn. To wit:

Several factors will influence our non-GAAP automotive gross margin for the rest of this year. The combined non-GAAP gross margin for Model S and Model X in Q3 will decline slightly from Q2, driven primarily by mix shift. Additionally, during the initial phase of the Model 3 ramp in Q3, the volume produced will be tiny relative to the installed production capacity. As a result, Model 3 gross margin in Q3 will be temporarily impacted by the excessive allocation of labor and overhead costs and depreciation over this tiny volume. In the absence of these one-time elevated cost allocations, Model 3 gross margin in Q3 would already be positive, resulting in a positive cash contribution. As capacity utilization improves, Model 3 non-GAAP gross margin is expected to be positive in Q4, and should improve rapidly in 2018 to our target of 25%. Consequently, we expect non-GAAP automotive gross margin to temporarily dip below 20% in Q3, before recovering in Q4 and beyond.

Amusingly, this is how Tesla explained it was prepared to deliver up to half a million Model 3 cars annually:

"At our Fremont factory, the new Model 3 body welding line and multilevel general assembly line are highly dense and automated. This densification sets the stage for us to produce over 500,000 Model 3 vehicles annually."

Yet despite the euphoria spun by Elon Musk surrounding the Model 3 launch, customer deposits continued to decline, and in Q2 dipped again, down to $603MM from $616MM on March 31.

Oh, remember the Solar Roof thing? No? There's a reason for that: Tesla hasn't installed a single one for an actual customer yet. The good news: Tesla's own employees are now energy independent: "The first Solar Roof installations have been completed recently at the ho mes ofour employees, who we chose to be our first customers to help perfect all aspects of Solar Roof customer experience."

Finally don't expect the cash burn to end any time soon: as it stated in its letter, capital expenditures should be about $2 billion during the second half of 2017, "as we make milestone-based payments for Model 3 equipment, continue with Gigafactory 1 construction, and expand our Supercharger, store, delivery hub, and service networks."

In other words, tons of new boondoggles are coming down the pipeline just to make you ignore the unprecedented amount of cash the company is currently burning.

And speaking of boondoggles, the big one is coming: While delivering the first Model 3 cars was a major company milestone, we are now focused on the critical steps to ramp Model 3 production. We remain confident in our plans and look forward to the upcoming unveiling of the next exciting addition to our portfolio of electric vehicles – Semi Truck.

Meanwhile, as Tesla's 2017 EPS forecast continues to sink, its stock continues to grow.

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SloMoe's picture

Elon Ponzi...

Looney's picture

One of the major selling points of an electric car is the Fuel Savings.

I just spent 15 minutes gathering the info and it is all bullshit! I used Tesla’s numbers, but they apply to all other EVs as well.

So, let’s compare the costs – they are based on the three quotes at the bottom of the post:

Electric Car

Recharging costs (over 100,000 miles at $.05 per mile)….. $5,000

Replacement battery (after 100,000 miles or 5 years)…….$10,000

Total cost…………………………………….............…………$15,000

Mercedes C-Class @ 28 mpg (a random Make and Model)

Number of gallons used to drive the same 100,000 miles is 3,571 gallons X $3.00 per gallon = $10,713

Even at $4.00 per gallon, the cost of gasoline would be $14,284

Maintenance and service costs are free for the first 3-4 years, but even if they are not, 6 or 7 Oil Changes (every 15,000 miles) would add another $1,000, totaling at $15,284

So, driving an Electric Car costs $15,000 and driving a Gasoline-Powered Car costs $15,284, where are the fucking fuel-savings? Where is the beef?   ;-)


1. Charging Costs: It's roughly 3 miles per kilowatt-hour. Electricity costs between 10 and 20 cents per kilowatt-hour in the various U.S. states, so your charging costs would be between 3 to 7 cents per mile (average – 5 cents).

2. Battery’s life expectancy: The lithium-ion battery pack in the Tesla Roadster is projected to have a lifespan of about 5 years or 100,000 miles. At the end of that time the pack will need to be replaced, at a cost of approximately $10,000.

3. Gasoline Costs: The 2015 Mercedes-Benz C-Class is no hybrid, but for its class, it scores decent gas mileage. The newly-arrived C300 in rear-drive form improves the 4Matic all-wheel-drive version's gas mileage figures slightly, at 25 mpg city, 34 mpg highway, and 28 mpg combined.

ThaBigPerm's picture

It's OK - we just got verbal confirmation from Musk that the new Tesla will be on time, blow our socks off, and will meet or beat production estimates.  TO THE BANK, BABY!  Oh wait, TO THE SCENE OF THE BOATING ACCIDENT, BABY!

jcaz's picture

LOL- that cash burn number is awesome, in light of money owed.... 

So basically, Tesla is broke by the end of the year, only less broke if they don't produce any 3's-

Got it.

American Psycho's picture

Also, if you want the Mercedes, you can walk into the dealership and drive away with the car.  No need to go online, order, wait, wait some more, then maybe you'll get the car. 


American Psycho's picture

I find it hilarous that TSLA is up 6% on the cash burn news. Did Elon suggest colonizing Mars again?

MillionDollarButter's picture

Yay!  I'm about to become as rich as Elon Musk!  Pretty good, considering I have already achieved the body of Russell Crowe.

BurningFuld's picture

If you are one of Tesla's suppliers I have a surprise for you. You aren't getting paid.

JohninMK's picture

Not far out there.

I worked for a supplier to ADT. The payment terms were 'two days end of quarter'. We shipped product in for the three months of their quarter. We were paid on the second day of their next quarter for our shipments in the last month of the penultimate quarter and the first two months of the just past quarter. Meanwhile they banked any revenue into the quarter.

Just like Tesla who may operate in a similar way, it sure made their end of quarter cash reserves look good, but two days later quite a different story. Screwed us tho'.

The_Juggernaut's picture

Looking at the 1-year chart... does that look like a head and shoulders?

jcaz's picture

I listened to the call,  was hysterical-

Musk came on, couldn't understand one word....  Took a break, hooked up another mike, still sounded like shit.... Took a break, finally found one that worked blamed it all on their "new" phone system-

So lemme get this straight... The company that wants to drive my car for me- that wants me to put my life in its hands- can't even handle freaking news conference technology?

My favorite part was when Musk claimed 500,000 deposits on the 3..... Stock jumped $20 on that.... Later- when asked directly- he admitted that the number was really 455,000 with 63,000 cancelled orders, so they have a "pre-net" 518,000 orders pending.... 

Uh, yeah dude- good luck explaining that funky math to the SEC when they come after you for pumping.....   He also managed to duck questions about marginal growth of deposits,  failure to process refunds in a timely manner (I've heard there have been complaints), and basically shrugged off any sort of material question;

A typical Elon Musk presentation.

Tippoo Sultan's picture

Musk looks like Bruce Jenner, pre-procedure.

yogibear's picture

Next libtard Musk can claim the  government  talked to him about hyperlooping Mars.

Flim-Flam man Musk,


TahoeBilly2012's picture

Looney buying a Tesla is all a ploy to get some hairy arm pitted Democrat/NPR watching gal in bed! 

"Oh Dave, you did it! It's beautiful and you saved the planet. Can I kiss you?" 

That's as good as it gets for a Coastal Libtard man....

Looney's picture


I totally agree, but... who's Dave?   ;-)


BurningFuld's picture

Hal's friend on the trip to Jupiter.

bobdog54's picture

What is the daily govt subsidy? Could it be that us taxpayers, not Tesla shareholders are covering the $13MM per day?

Lumberjack's picture

Senator Collins introduces PERPETUAL tax credit for her windy friends


Joining Senators Collins and Carper are Senators Angus King (I-Maine), Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Chris Coons (D-Del.), Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Edward Markey (D-Mass.), Jack Reed (D-R.I.), Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.).

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Tesla Burns A Record $13 Million Per Day In Q2... And It's About To Get Worse

My response: Tesla is NOT the only one burning a lot of CASH. I believe the entire TRANSPORTATION industry is burning a lot of CASH. Tesla may just be the tip of the iceberg and most visible. Just look at all the "CARMAGEDDON" news that has been surfacing over the last 60 days.

Declining SALES plus increasing INVENTORY plus reduced PRODUCTION with same labor costs equals CASH BURN!!!!

Peacefulwarrior's picture

Musk is a Dickhead with an unlimited supply of Lego's to play with

H H Henry P P P Paulson's picture

Also, it take only a couple minutes to fill up a gas tank vs. hours to fully charge a battery.  What a chore to deal with if traveling long distances.

Looney's picture



BTW... while charging the POS, there’s enough time to catch Gonorrhea, get cured, and… catch it AGAIN!   ;-)


American Psycho's picture

As a guy in Panama City (aka redneck riviera) told me, "you can't spell stud with out STD."  Also, said gentleman was not driving a TSLA.

Utopia Planitia's picture

Must you insist on burning my eyes out not once but multiple times per day? Have mercy, man!

yarpos's picture

one should stop for a refreshing camomille tea every few hours in any case

silverer's picture

I thought the major selling point was the cool factor? But hey, we're talking about TV addicted Americans here. Anything's possible. Try to fit it into a 10 second sound bite.

TBT or not TBT's picture

No free lunch in physics, unlike in crony capitalism.     I will add this though.   E vehicles present the opportunity to shift the emission of pollutants away from where people live and breathe.  

A little bit like open trade with third world dictatorships permits having the things we want here while polluting somewhere else.   This is working in pollution trapping cities like LA, where pollution is way better now than decades ago despite greater population and greater abundance of products.  

Full disclosure I drive an EPA defying Fiat Chrysler diesel in the LA basin, gleefully.  

Have to compensate for the smug emissions from the Tesla drivers.  

jcaz's picture

Prolly not with the diesel, but ANY currently-produced gasoline burning vehicle is producing exhaust cleaner than the air it's taking in around the LA basin- it's a net reducer of harmful emissions.

But the greenies won't let facts like that get in the way of their cause.....

malek's picture

Now do the same exercise for (primary) energy usage, using the US-wide share for types of electricity generation...

And then do it again when needing a lot of AC, or instead a lot of cabin heating, while driving...

H H Henry P P P Paulson's picture

Cabin warmth from a gasoline engine drawn entirely from the heat of the piston combustion.  It's a happy accident.  Funny thinking about how many volts it takes to electrically heat the inside of a car.  Think of an electric house space heater (and those always seem to catch fire too).

Ace in the hole's picture

very interesting.  Maybe what you are missing is the free energy if you install a $20,000 solar panel to genereate your electricity.  It is all a giant scam for sure

Mayh3m's picture

You are assuming that gasoline prices will remain stable over the next 10 years. They wont. 

Mayh3m's picture

You are assuming that gasoline prices will remain stable over the next 10 years. They wont. 

Mayh3m's picture

You are assuming that gasoline prices will remain stable over the next 10 years. They wont. 

yarpos's picture

having trouble with that enter key?

StreetObserver's picture

You forget the rape that occurs every time you take a merc to a dealer for anything mechanical.


yarpos's picture

well, if you are silly enough to buy one

apocalypticbrother's picture

The savings are in the subsidys suckers.

Deplorable's picture

Just sell the fricken car before the battery dies and it is the next owners problem.....

IronForge's picture

I spoke with someone who was.considering buying a TSLA.  The Sales Reps were forbidden to tell him of the Battery replacement costs.

Who would want to buy one, unless you have money to burn as a fooled first adopter?

MK13's picture

Don't apply common sense to this.

Don't apply mathematics or economics.

Don't compare carbon footprints - outside of hydroelectric powered countries like Norway - you will come up with similar answers.

You're just going to confuse libtards who don't understand anything.

This is taxpayer sponsored picking of corporate winner and losers - neocommunism or corporatism by any other name.

zagzigga's picture

But you don't get to "save the earth" with a gasoline powered car.

jerry_theking_lawler's picture

And just think if the gas car was changed to diesel which has a much higher thermal efficiency....aka better 'gas' mileage and wasn't required by the .gov to have all the gadgets and doodads that diesels are required to have now. It would be even less savings for Mr. E. Musk.

rubiconsolutions's picture
"Tesla Steals A Record $13 Million Per Day From Taxpayers In Q2"


Fixed it.

rlouis's picture

might as well be tesla.gov

charlewar's picture

musk today's version of Enron's Ken Lay..
suckers will get burned.

2banana's picture

I like to point out to Telsa owners...

Nice COAL powered car you got there.