Mueller Impanels Grand Jury In Russia Probe, Donald Trump Jr. Subpoenaed

Tyler Durden's picture

Update: Reuters adds that Grand Jury subpoenas have been issued in connection with the June 2016 meeting between Donald Trump Jr., Russian Lawyer and others.

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Stocks slumped, and VIX spiked following news that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, the WSJ reports, adding that "this is a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity and entering a new phase." The grand jury is said to have begun work in recent weeks, suggesting Mueller's inquiry is ramping up and "that it will likely continue for months."

Some details: "grand juries are powerful investigative tools that allow prosecutors to subpoena documents, put witnesses under oath and seek indictments, if there is evidence of a crime. Legal experts said that the decision by Mr. Mueller to impanel a grand jury suggests he believes he will need to subpoena records and take testimony from witnesses."

"This is yet a further sign that there is a long-term, large-scale series of prosecutions being contemplated and being pursued by the special counsel,” said Stephen I. Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas. “If there was already a grand jury in Alexandria looking at Flynn, there would be no need to reinvent the wheel for the same guy. This suggests that the investigation is bigger and wider than Flynn, perhaps substantially so.”

Speaking to the WSJ, Ty Cobb - special counsel to the president - said he wasn’t aware that Mueller - who is investigating Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether President Donald Trump’s campaign or associates colluded with the Kremlin - had started using a new grand jury. “Grand jury matters are typically secret,” Mr. Cobb said. “The White House favors anything that accelerates the conclusion of his work fairly.…The White House is committed to fully cooperating with Mr. Mueller.

The WSJ adds that prior to Mueller's assignment as special counsel, federal prosecutors had been using at least one other grand jury, located in Alexandria, Va., to assist in their criminal investigation of Michael Flynn, a former national security adviser. That probe, which has been taken over by Mr. Mueller’s team, focuses on Mr. Flynn’s work in the private sector on behalf of foreign interests.

A grand jury in Washington is also more convenient for Mr. Mueller and his 16 attorneys—they work just a few blocks from the U.S. federal courthouse where grand juries meet—than one that is 10 traffic-clogged miles away in Virginia.

Does this mean the worst is coming for Trump? Thomas Zeno, a federal prosecutor for 29 years before becoming a lawyer at the Squire Patton Boggs law firm, said the grand jury is “confirmation that this is a very vigorous investigation going on.”

“This doesn’t mean he is going to bring charges,” Mr. Zeno cautioned. “But it shows he is very serious. He wouldn’t do this if it were winding down.”

Another sign the investigation is ramping up: Greg Andres, a top partner in a powerhouse New York law firm, Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP, has joined Mr. Mueller’s team. Mr. Andres, a former top Justice Department official who also oversaw the criminal division of the U.S. attorney’s office in Brooklyn, wouldn’t leave his private-sector job for a low-level investigation, Mr. Zeno said.

Notably, in March Andres supported a Democratic lawmaker donating $2,700 to Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York senator.

The grand jury news comes following a report that Congress is seeking to protect Mueller’s independence after Sens. Thom Tillis (R., N.C.) and Chris Coons (D., Del.) introduced legislation Thursday making it harder for Trump to fire Mueller. Under the legislation, a special counsel could challenge his or her removal, with a three-judge panel ruling within 14 days on whether the firing was justified.

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As a reminder, Mueller has assembled a team of prosecutors and lawyers specializing in criminal and national security law. Twelve attorneys are on temporary assignment to the special counsel’s office from the Justice Department or FBI, and three came from Mr. Mueller’s firm of WilmerHale.

Trump has repeatedly questioned the neutrality of Mr. Mueller’s office, telling Fox News he is concerned that Mueller’s prosecutors are “Hillary Clinton supporters” and that Mueller and Comey are friends. Comey was a top Justice official in the George W. Bush administration when Mr. Mueller was the FBI director; both are Republicans. 

Adding some credence to Trump's allegations is that at least eight members of Mr. Mueller’s team have given to Democratic candidates, including the presidential campaigns of Obama and Clinton, according to Federal Election Commission records, although at least one, James Quarles, an original member of the Watergate Special Prosecution Force, donated to politicians in both parties.

While we await Trump's response, this is how the market reacted to the news.

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remain calm's picture

Sessions was a dumb ass for recusing himself from the process. 

HillaryOdor's picture

Let's do it.  See if you can spark the civil war you deserve.   Personally, I think America will just bend over and take it.  They've been neutered.

Cynicles II's picture

We ill know very soon if this is looking into Clinton involvement when Mule pops up dead, having twice shot himself in the back of the head, a la Vince Foster 

remain calm's picture

Look at Hilary, guilty fat cunt, but the system is so polluted that this is what we get. NO HOPE FOR AMERICA FOLKS

Chupacabra-322's picture

Tyrannical Lawlessness

on full display.

nsurf9's picture

It is  I M P O S S I B L E for Mueller to not be biased!!!

Gees, Mueller was Comey's boss, best bud, and handed off the reigns to FBI to Comey. 

And now, Mueller is investigating Trump -after Trump fired his best bud.  Give me a frigggggggggggin break. 

If any of them are attorneys, while you're at it, why not appointed Comey's mom, wife, siblings or children to investigate the Russians and colluding (whatever that frigging means) and Comey's firing.

Mueller has to go.  No outcome, good or bad, will not be tainted from his presence.

If I were Mueller, I would have never taken the job.


BullyBearish's picture

trump has proven time and time again that he will SAY whatever he wants, but will DO whatever they want...

Billy the Poet's picture

Why did they want a ceasefire in Syria and an end to funding for anti-Assad terrorists?

Stackers's picture

Hillary and company get immunity deals galore and no grand jury

Fuck Washington and their cosa nostra

PrayingMantis's picture

... Heinrich Muller's ... sorry, Robert Mueller's extremely biased "investigation" is a total waste of taxpayers' money ...

... meanwhile, here's another "bad cop" event targeting octogenarians ...

... "Mary and Clyde Antrim are a married couple from Pueblo Colorado in their 80s. Mary and Clyde were upset when their car was stolen. Mary and Clyde were happy when Colorado Springs police found their stolen car. Mary and Clyde were unhappy when the police said they wouldn't give it back to them because it was being held for evidence. Mary and Clyde were mad a month later when they read online that the police were going to auction their car. Mary and Clyde were perplexed when the police department said it told them to come get the car, because the police never told them. Mary and Clyde were upset when they found out they had to pay the police $178 to get their car back even though charging crime victims is against Colorado Springs Police Department policy. Mary and Clyde were relieved when a local TV news station helped them get their car back. Mary and Clyde will be happy when the police department apologizes."

>>> ...

BuddyEffed's picture

Was the email leak an attempt to defuse the situation ?

Dabooda's picture

Notice that this  grand jury is to be impaneled in Washington DC -- where Clinton received over 95% of the vote -- sounds like impartial justice in action to me.

JSBach1's picture

Who exactly in CONgress is not guilty of financial crimes? Talk about hypocrisy...but keep banging the Russia meme daily, and it almost looks like a distraction campaign from bigger more sinister crimes. Who'd ever think of that?

Lady Justice has been stripped of her balance and her sword, and is only left with a blindfold...what irony?

As one of our fellow ZH's, Chupacabra-322, reminds us: "Tyrannical Lawlessness!"

armada's picture

They're getting us accustomed to "Hate Russia" for when they attack it.

Manthong's picture


I did not think they were that terribly slow down there in Alabama.

.. maybe it’s something in the swamp water.

Manthong's picture


Really getting pissed off….

How do you spell

“Night of the Long Knives” ???

Figuratively or Literally…….…..

FrozenGoodz's picture

Nothing burger topped with a grand jury and 16 special prosecutors

jeff montanye's picture

what do you say president trump?  how about an investigation/prosecution based on the statements of seymour hersh to the effect that the whole russian story was a creation of john "asshole" brennan's possibly with some help from that "fucking cocksucker rogers".  it could do heavy forensic work on the header/metadata from guccifer 2.0 indicating the original russian accusation (from crowdstrike) was based on data sent from inside the dnc; why the fbi when looking for russians (or, possibly, any guilty party since it was an "investigation") stealing dnc emails allowed itself to be "rebuffed" by the dnc when trying to check their servers, the primary evidence; maybe even why the fbi claims not to have investigated seth rich's death, a clue blinking neon red in the night, especially since they very likely did examine at least his computer for the dc police; and, while seymour hersh will not and should not reveal his sources, whoever made that recording might well be made to vouch for its authenticity and, possibly, provide any more of it as it certainly didn't sound complete as currently presented.

such an investigation would at least have the advantage of looking for guilt where guilt actually resides. 

not that that will be a real problem for mueller whose experience in the 9-11 investigation, particularly learning from the national institute of standards and technology's technique of concluding first (no possibility that explosions brought down building 7; this cause eliminated at the outset) and investigating second, will help him in his charge of investigating russian meddling in the 2016 election.  not investigating meddling to see who meddled most.  kind of like telling a d.a. that her charge is to empanel a grand jury to investigate hillary clinton's murder of seth rich.  doesn't sound quite as much on the up and up when put that way does it?

JSBach1's picture

Speaking of that thread, the Seymour Hersh one, I posted a comment towards the end of its cycle of consumption, but it bears repeating:

First and foremost one should consider motive and reputation when a story such as this one in regards to this on-going battle of Russia meddling, or any other story of notiarity for that matter, surfaces cloaked with anonymity and with little to no corroboration.

Clearly there are two diametrically opposed narratives at play in this case: namely those in the government that want to advance the Russia meddled angle for various obvious reasons and ones not so obvious, and the other faction in the government which refutes this claim again for obvious and not so obvious reasons. To what end then? On the one hand, the proponents of the Russia meddling line want to justify the removal of a duly elected President thereby laying the ground work for his removal from office and whatever the aggregate reasoning is for that, yet they seem fervent on this course of action. If, however, this preferred method -- only being preferred because of the wrong outcome in the preceding election -- fails in its objective, the less preferred outcomes will come to play, as it seems: either by way of damaging the President's agenda whereby obsessively repeating this Russia narrative to the point he becomes ineffective at passing his agenda paving way for a realignment of political power in the 2018 and 2020 elections, or removing him entirely a la the JFK way. What is less clear is the order of the less preferable options henceforth. On the other hand, there are those who propose that Russia spent little or no effort in meddling in the election per se. It could be because the election was just, yet its opponents have sour grapes as a result, or the sour grapes turned into a vengeful wrath of their convictions in order to teach the people obedience for not voting in accordance and not inline with the preordained "nominee" of their choosing. Perhaps the truth, as is often the case, lies somewhere in between, and in trying to determine the most plausible version of said events we are forced to round off the real events, as they truly happened, much like rounding off a real number to some less precise value, the only question being is the significant digits in consideration thereof, in which case, as in this scenario, it is akin to the degree of factual/verified/corroborated information.

Now as far as the history/reputation portion, that is more clear and one can thereby judge accordingly.

One thing that is striking about Hersh's claim is that Seth Rich used a Dropbox account to store these emails on to. Well, since Dropbox is a cloud storage solution system we can deduce that: it was physically stored outside Rich's grasp and therefore not in his control, and in order to get the contents of Dropbox one must first download the contents over the Internet thereby registering the data to the omni-eavesdropping NSA's ears. Incidentally, IMO it was this very agency and its brethren which publicized the "convenience" of cloud storage via the media outlets and the mega tech companies -- think about why these companies were given the pathway to becoming giant to begin with, but that is tangential to this discussion -- in the first place. Now can you see why? One would be wise to stay clear of cloud storage of sensitive personal information as it will always traverse through the NSA's and any other group's waiting clutches.

In the end one should juxtapose what Hersh put out here and the aim for which it is put out. What is it that he, Hersh, or, by extension, his sources are trying to convey and by whose purported interests.

jeff montanye's picture

hersh looks more like a journalist, a truth seeker, than a propagandist to me.  he makes his living on his reputation for not being wrong about reality.  the opposite of the cia, mossad, etc. who by deception wage war and have endless tales of evil fantasy to their names.

that seymour hersh is jewish and left wing makes his destruction of the russian election meddling story so convincing, imo.

Crash Overide's picture

What a fucking joke... They really do want us to take our country back.

fallst's picture

Epic Exposure of all the Deep State Bad Actors. Drain and Flush these carcasses . Popcorn .

barysenter's picture

What control? Whose control? Don't move til you see it.

shankster's picture

Time to secede from DC.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture


The following 15 points are based upon factual historical evidence:

1st: In 1863, Lincoln instituted martial law. He ordered that the states (people) either conscribe troops and provide money in support of the North or be recognized as an enemy of the nation. This martial law Act of Congress is still in effect today - what it means is that the President has dictatorial authority to do anything that can be done by the government in accord with the Constitution of the United States of America. This is the foundation of Presidential Executive Orders.

2nd: The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 created a private corporation (hereinafter "Corp. U.S.") owned and operated by the actual government for the purpose of carrying out the business needs of the government under martial law. This was done under the constitutional authority for Congress to pass any law within the ten mile square of Washington, District of Columbia.

3rd: In said Act, Corp. U.S. adopted their own constitution (United States Constitution), which was identical to the national Constitution (Constitution of the United States of America) except that it was missing the national constitution's 13th Amendment. The national constitution's 13th, 14th and 15th amendments are respectively numbered 14th, 15th and 16th amendments in their constitution.

4th: The corporation began to generate debts via bonds etc., which came due in 1912, but they could not pay their debts so the 7 families that bought up the bonds demanded payment and Corp. U.S. could not pay. Said families settled the debt for the payments of all of Corp. U.S.' assets and for all of the assets of the Treasury of the United States of America.

5th: As 1913 began, Corp. U.S. had no funds to carry out the necessary business needs of the government so they went to said families and asked if they could borrow some money. The families said no (Corp. U.S. had already demonstrated that they would not repay their debts in full). The families had foreseen this situation and had the year before finalized the creation of a private corporation of the name "Federal Reserve Bank". Corp. U.S. formed a relationship with the Federal Reserve Bank whereby they could transact their business via note rather than with money. Notice that this relationship was one made between two private corporations and did not involve government; that is where most people error in understanding the Federal Reserve Bank system-again it has no government relation at all. The private contracts that set the whole system up even recognize that if anything therein proposed is found illegal or impossible to perform it is excluded from the agreements and the remaining elements remain in full force and effect.

6th: Almost simultaneously with the last fact (also in 1913), Corp. U.S. passes and adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th amendment. It must be noted that this amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution, which already had its own 16th amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that it did nothing that was not already done other than to make plain and clear the right of the United States (Corp. U.S.) to tax corporations. We agree, considering that they were created under the authority of Corp. U.S.

7th: Next (also 1913) Congress passed and entered the 17th amendment as ratified, even though the states had no opportunity to ratify the same. This amendment is not only not ratified, it is not constitutional; the Constitution forbids Congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected.

8th: In 1914, the Freshman class and all Senators that successfully ran for re-election in 1913 by popular vote are seated in Corp. U.S. capacity only.

9th: In 1917, Corp. U.S. enters WWI and passes their Emergency War Powers, and Trading with the Enemies Acts.

10th: In 1918, President Wilson is re-elected by the Electoral College but their election is required to be confirmed by the constitutionally set Senate; where in the new Corp. U.S., only Senators were allowed to participate in the Electoral College vote confirmation. The only authority that could possibly have been used for electoral confirmation was corporate only. Therefore, President Wilson was not confirmed into office for his second term as President of the United States of America and was only seated in the Corp. U.S. Presidential capacity. Therefore the original jurisdiction government's seats were vacated because the people didn't seat any original jurisdiction government officers.

11th: In 1933, the Trading with the Enemies Act is adjusted to recognize the people of the United States of America as enemies of Corp. U.S.

12th: In 1944, under the Bretton Woods Agreement, Corp. U.S. is quit claimed to the International Monetary Fund, and becomes a foreign controlled private corporation.

13th: Some time after 1935, you ask Social Security Administration for a relationship with their program. They create an entity with a name (that sounds like your name but is spelled with all capital letters) and a depository account number in the Social Security General Trust Fund (GTF). They give you the Social Security card which identifies you as the single person with authority to control the entity they created (on review: you may notice that the Social Security Administration was the creator of the entity, the GTF is its beneficiary and you were made its Trustee.) More importantly: this capacity does not limit you or your capacity to act in your sovereign capacity in any way.

14th: In 1968, at the national governors' conference in Lexington, Kentucky, the IMF leaders of the event proposed the dilemma the State governors were in for carrying out their business dealings in Federal Reserve Notes (foreign notes), which is forbidden in the national and State constitutions, alleging that if they did not do something to protect themselves the people would discover what had been done with their money and would likely kill them all and start over. They suggested the States form corporations like Corp. U.S. and showed the advantages of the resultant uniform codes that could be created, which would allow better and more powerful control over the people.

15th: By 1971, every State government in the union of States had formed such private corporations (Corp. State), in accord with the IMF admonition, and the people ceased to seat original jurisdiction government officials in their State government seats.


jeff montanye's picture

scripture as the ultimate argument from authority is questionable but your last sentence, "Would that we could instead unite with truth and legally, lawfully and peacefully reseat our original jurisdiction government to take back control our nation." is an excellent summary of what must be done.  some civil disobedience has its place in this but if trump could get elected, the path to reform via the election of constitutionalists broadly defined offers promise.

the trump presidency is seven months old and already the legacy media is shamed and discredited as never before, the deep state is revealed and mocked as never before and by republicans, and the actual prosecution of the dnc chain of command has begun (imran awan arrested, that plus the beck civil suit against debbie wasserman schultz has her tiring and looking over her shoulder).

that's progress.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

(Sorry, screwed-up the edit. Now corrected.)...

The Bottom Line: when you speak about these private foreign corporations, remember that is what they are and stop calling them government.

Further, it is very important that we cease to attempt to fix them. It is far more important that we learn how to reseat our original jurisdiction government and spread the word about the truth. By reseating our State and national governments in their original jurisdiction nature, we gain the capacity to hold these private foreign corporations accountable. They owe us a lot of money, in fact they owe us more money than there is available in the world. The fact is that it is impossible for them to pay and that gives us the leverage we need to take back our nation and put things right. The process is a simple one. The difficulty is in getting our people to wake up to the truth.

That means that you must stop acting and communicating like you are anything other than the sovereign that God created you to be. And, stop referring to Corp. U.S. or the STATE OF 'X' as anything other than the private foreign corporations that they are. And, finally, stop listening to the Bigfoot Patriot mythology that is espoused by those that only give these facts lip service.

The biggest problem with the so called Patriot Movement is that its proponents are all excited about uniting against the tyranny of Corp. U.S. even though they are blind to the truth, have no remedy, and bail out of "the system" hell bent for a rebellion that even the scripture says cannot be won. Would that we could instead unite with truth and legally, lawfully and peacefully reseat our original jurisdiction government to take back control our nation.

Giant Meteor's picture

But while we're waiting ..

Howard Hughes Testifies On Capitol Hill - August 6, 1947

iampreparedru's picture

I got 3 or 4 stories much better than that about Harris County "Sheriffs". I would tell you but if I get on their bad side they got asset forfeture rights.  

Signed, Middle age family about to bail on this fucked up place.

MonkeyKnutz's picture

Lived in Tejas for 3.5 yrs. Glad to GTFO. Fucking Police State, as bad as No-Hio.

JRobby's picture

It appears that they want an armed march on DC? Congress is begging for it. Really begging for it.

I think they have some ideas how much of the military will side with the Deep State but do not have a handle on what the enlisted people will do? I don't know why that would be? Why they don't know? Because it's pretty clear they are for the US Constitution and Trump as duly elected POTUS / CIC.

Even Wapost has reported that the Russia meddling has no legs.

This will continue unabated until "We The People" step in. First, Congress needs to be overwhelmed by phone, email and letters while a march on DC is planed and promoted.

Victory_Garden's picture

"This will continue unabated until "We The People" step in. First, Congress needs to be overwhelmed by phone, email and letters while a march on DC is planed and promoted."



Yeppers, JR.

Nail hits hammer on head.

Here is a group that has tried every election to get this Flagship off the ground. Reckon, its time has come...again. May this be an umbrella for all Americans to get under to gather in strength and vast numbers to, Get These Evil Asshats Out Of Our House...NOW!

And another thing, everybody must reach out to the Russian People and let them know that these asshats in the congress pot of turds and the senate cesspool DO NOT REPRESENT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. They placed sanctions on Russia well AGAINST the wishes of the average American. The People of America have NO BEEF with the Russian People. Everybody knows they are mostly good people, like Americans are mostly good people. We do not want war with Russia, Korea, or anyone else all for the bankster profits and population elimination agendas, any more. Our war mongering profiteering evil politicians do, NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Please understand Russia, all the congress critters and senate toads all work for rothschilds sataninc luciferic babylonian empire of dust. THEY control what our govt puppets do. Go cut off the head of the hydra, the profiteers of war, profiteers from stolen oil, and the blackmailed paid off politicians that all serve one master and all work for the same money-god to bring world peace. Money-god is only a tool of the real enemy of the world. The evil jesuit/zio/vatican banksters from hell.






jeff montanye's picture

but there is something the american people can do:  

continue to work to support an alternative media, giving money where that is possible; support candidates who, like trump, are relatively less tools of the deep state, the banksters, and the zionist masters; and using comments, social media and conversation, undercut the false narrative being foisted on this country by the corrupt legacy media and the worst of the clandestine, investigative and prosecutorial parts of the u.s. government.

for starters.

redmudhooch's picture

You're right, MILLIONS are ready, we need an organizer who can put the word out there...

cheeseheader's picture

I'm wondering if any (all?) mericans can swing it to make a disappearance policy of some of our congress critters whence they return home from the exhausting work they perform whilst in wash.  I believe, not too sure, but maybe, somehow, some constituents in the sw desert could effect this policy during the so-called recess...I mean, since it's so wild west out here....

MonkeyKnutz's picture

I agree very much, but to get the average Murican to dial a phone, much less get involved is damn near un-possible.  Hell, they don't even know what the 4th of July is about.  We. Are. Doomed.

HowdyDoody's picture

"Why did they want a ceasefire in Syria and an end to funding for anti-Assad terrorists?"

The Russians are totally wiping out the US-funded terrorists. This move is part of the plan to 'prove' that the US was fighting the terrorists all along. There will be Hollywood movies showing how the brave US military totally defeated ISIS all on their own, just as was done with the WW II narrative in Europe.


Billy the Poet's picture

It seems unlikely to me that the US will now stop all military activity when confronted by Russia. In fact, the Deep State is increasing hostility toward Russia.

Kassandra's picture

Seems to me that the DWS and DNC lawsuit, which of course brought up the MURDER of Seth Rich was starting to gain traction and actually get some public attention.
So of course a grand jury has to convene for Russia, Russia, RUSSIA!!!

auricle's picture

A 'jury' would imply evidence has been collected and ready to be presented for review. What evidence has been collected? 

Mueller, the FBI director that reigned during 9/11 and buddy to James Comey. 

JRobby's picture

Mueller is a traitor because of 9/11 and his involvement in the Clinton uranium to Russia deal. Now he's a "special prosecutor"

You can't make this stuff up. I dare you to try............

Whoa Dammit's picture

Mueller called for a grand jury because noises were being made about firing his ass. Now getting rid of him will be very difficult.

Stuck on Zero's picture

The members of the impartial grand jury panel are: Holder, Elders, Kerry, Lynch, Comey, and Wasserman-Schultz.

nsurf9's picture

Now that's funny!  

But, what the hay - may as well throw in Bill, Hillary and Chelsea for an august nine. 

Eyes Opened's picture

That lot of reprobates gathered in one room sounds like a TARGET ...

Is Walmart/HomeDepot selling weaponized drones yet ??

EnglishMajor's picture

Yes, they can't have what they want in Syria, but he is going to give them North Korea to appease them.  That's the Art of the Deal.