North Korea Responds To Trump Threat, Says It Is "Seriously Considering" Pre-Emptive Nuclear Strike On Guam

Tyler Durden's picture

Challenge accepted.

If Trump thought that his bluff would be sufficient to finally shut up North Korea, and put an end to Kim's provocative behavior, well... bluff called because North Korea's state-run KCNA news agency reported moments ago that not only did N.Korea escalate the tensions up another notch, but explicitly warned that it could carry out a "pre-emptive operation once the US shows signs of provocation", and that it is "seriously considering a strategy to strike Guam with mid-to-long range missiles."

Story highlights from Reuters:


And the full report:

U.S Should be Prudent under Present Acute Situation: Spokesman For KPA Strategic Force


Pyongyang, August 9 (KCNA) -- A spokesman for the Strategic Force of the Korean People's Army (KPA) released the following statement on August 8:


Recently, the U.S. test-fired ICBM Minuteman-3 at its Vandenberg Air Force Base in Califrnia State targeting the DPRK, the fourth one this year, openly staged an actual nuclear strike drill targeting the strategic objects of the DPRK by mobilizing its nuclear strategic bombers formation stationed at its Anderson Air Force Base on Guam in the Pacific. It is driving the regional situation to an extreme pitch by bringing various kinds of nuclear strategic hardware before the very eyes of the DPRK. The Strategic Force of the KPA has taken special note of such maneuvers.


Such military maneuvers of the U.S. may provoke a dangerous conflict under the present extremely acute situation prevailing on the Korean peninsula.


Typically, the nuclear strategic bombers from Guam frequent the sky above south Korea to openly stage actual war drills and muscle-flexing in a bid to strike the strategic bases of the DPRK. This grave situation requires the KPA to closely watch Guam, the outpost and beachhead for invading the DPRK, and necessarily take practical actions of significance to neutralize it.


In the morning of August 8 the air pirates of Guam again appeared in the sky above south Korea to stage a mad-cap drill simulating an actual war.


Supreme Commander of the revolutionary forces of the DPRK Kim Jong Un, estimating the nature of the military action taken by the U.S. forces in the Asia-Pacific region, once recommended examination of a powerful and effective action plan for containing the U.S. imperialists' aggression hardware as the U.S. forces are resorting to inappropriate and reckless military actions in the sensitive area, while going on the rampage in the waters off the Korean peninsula and the Pacific waters.


The KPA Strategic Force is now carefully examining the operational plan for making an enveloping fire at the areas around Guam with medium-to-long-range strategic ballistic rocket Hwasong-12 in order to contain the U.S. major military bases on Guam including the Anderson Air Force Base in which the U.S. strategic bombers, which get on the nerves of the DPRK and threaten and blackmail it through their frequent visits to the sky above south Korea, are stationed and to send a serious warning signal to the U.S.


It should immediately stop its reckless military provocation against the state of the DPRK so that the latter would not be forced to make an unavoidable military choice.


The plan is to be soon reported to the Supreme Command soon after going through full examination and completion and will be put into practice in a multi-concurrent and consecutive way any moment once Kim Jong Un, supreme commander of the nuclear force of the DPRK, makes a decision.


The execution of this plan will offer an occasion for the Yankees to be the first to experience the might of the strategic weapons of the DPRK closest. 


Explicitly speaking again, the strategic weapons which the DPRK manufactured at the cost of blood and sweat, risking everything, are not a bargaining  thing for getting acknowledgement from others and for bartering for anything, but they serve as substantial military means for resolutely countering the  U.S. political and economic pressure and military threat as what has been observed now.


Will only the U.S. have option called "preventive war" as is claimed by it?


It is a daydream for the U.S. to think that its mainland is an invulnerable Heavenly kingdom.


The U.S. should clearly face up to the fact that the ballistic rockets of the Strategic Force of the KPA are now on constant standby, facing the Pacific Ocean and pay deep attention to their azimuth angle for launch.


It should make a proper option so as not to regret today in the future.

Incidentally, here is a 1999 interview courtesy of @NorthmanTrader, laying out Donald Trump's thoughts on launching a pre-emptive strike on North Korea.

Needless to say, with both leaders determined to keep escalating until the adversary folds, this seemingly inevitable military conflict will not have a happy ending.

The good news for Guam, is that the US has had a THAAD anti-ballistic missile battery on the Pacific island since 2015; in fact it was the first permanent deployment of THAAD outside continental United States.

On the American Territory of Guam in the western Pacific, is Task Force Talon, the world’s only deployed and active THAAD battery site. This is the world’s newest missile defense capability that can intercept missiles in lower space and in the upper atmosphere with its extremely powerful, long range X-Band radar that defends U.S. soil and American citizens in Guam against North Korean ballistic missiles. Equally important, Task Force Talon projects U.S. strategic air power into Asia through B-52 bombers deployed at Anderson Air Force Base and a U.S. submarine navy port as well as the largest American fuel and munitions depot in the Pacific. Last month, the B-52 squadron from Guam was used in power projecting flights over the internationally disputed artificial Chinese islands in the South China Sea. This squadron has also  flown over the DMZ in warning to North Korea in the past. Task Force Talon in Guam remains indispensable not only for American power projection, but also delivering extended deterrence for U.S. allies in the Asia Pacific region.

Finally, here is the statement issued moments ago by Madeline Z. Bordallo, Guam rep.

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The Cooler King's picture

Maxine Waters Lives.


Impeach Trump because Tupac is my favorite rapper who thinks that Guam is gonna tip over!

ali-ali-al-qomfri's picture

Hank 'Flipper' Johnson.

Another witness to the demise of America.

Zero-Hegemon's picture

Guam? I thought Li'l Kim said Rahm. I was happy for a moment.

caconhma's picture

I am very disappointed too. I would rather see San Francisco, LA, Chicago, New York.

yogibear's picture

Hurry, Hurry buy your South Korean flat screens, Kia's and Hyundai's.

Won't be able to buy parts or get the warranties fulfilled. 

And those Samsung parts. Oh well.

EuroZone's picture

I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do...

Promethus's picture

Only because Putin invaded Korea. 

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

This was the best part.

" order to contain the U.S. major military bases on Guam including the Anderson Air Force Base in which the U.S. strategic bombers, which get on the nerves of the DPRK and threaten and blackmail  it through their frequent visits to the sky above south Korea,..."

Just remember folks....everything NK is saying is correct. But it's only OK when "We the People" do it.

El Vaquero's picture

The thing that gets me is that the only way to get the deep state off of his back would be for Trump to wreck the Norks.  That moves onto the next thing, which is how to deal with all of those artillery pieces pointed at Seoul.  Without getting into the ethics of whether we should or not, dealing with those artillery pieces do pose a conundrum.  NK does have enough AA stuff to pose a threat to things like B1s, B52s and AC130s.  That leaves us with things like B2s, F22s and cruise missiles.  There are 187 F22s and 20 B2s in service.  There are 231 F35s built, and I don't know how many of those hunks of junk are in service with the USAF/USN.  I also do not know what the latest cruise missiles are like.  I do know that we have already retired the Advanced Cruise Missiles, which were stealthy.  I'm sure the MIC has come up with something else.  


It's hard to find a good estimate on the number of artillery pieces pointed at Seoul, but it is in the thousands.  The highest estimate that I saw was 13,000, but I do not know how reliable that estimate is.  Even if the real number is half of that, that is still a heavy load for 200-400 aircraft to handle.  And we'd probably want to divert some of our resources towards battering NK's AA capabilities.  My conclusion is that, we either have some spiffy classified munitions, or Seoul is going to get a bit of a beating.  The good news for SK is that NK shelled them several years ago, and a large number of the shells were duds.  


About spiffy classified munitions, I was thinking about how one would go about creating a force multiplier with the artillery in mind, and an idea did pop into my head.  Either a bomb casing or a cruise missile that when it gets near multiple targets breaks open and multiple GPS/visual/etc... guided rockets with a range of a few to a couple of dozen miles come popping out.  Basically the MIRV concept, but smaller, non-nuclear and without reentry.  If I've thought of it, somebody at DARPA or Lockheed or some other MIC place has, because NK and its artillery pieces have been an issue for decades.


With that being said, I'm tired of being the world police.  

SilverRhino's picture

You're talking about a bus missile or DP-ICM clusterbombs of which we have PLENTY.

El Vaquero's picture

Not quite.  I'm talking about something that is guided, then splits up into smaller guided munitions that have a much further range than the DP-ICM cluster bombs.  

TuPhat's picture

They already have something like that.  They were designed for amored vehicles but would work against artillery as well.  I don't remember what they are called.

HoyeruNew's picture

nobody voted you to be the world's police. You can quit any second. The world will be much much happer.

El Vaquero's picture

Our deep state and bankers voted us to be world police.  

Winston Churchill's picture

They would only be used for priority targets like hospitals, funerals

and wedding parties.Does the USAF have the capability to hit anything else ?

Shemp 4 Victory's picture


Does the USAF have the capability to hit anything else ?

The newer versions of US precision "Smart Weapons" are rumored to be capable of hitting orphanages, schools, and refugee camps, along with the standard priority targets of hospitals, funerals, and wedding parties.

Responding to El Vaquero...

About spiffy classified munitions, I was thinking about how one would go about creating a force multiplier with the artillery in mind, and an idea did pop into my head.  Either a bomb casing or a cruise missile that when it gets near multiple targets breaks open and multiple GPS/visual/etc... guided rockets with a range of a few to a couple of dozen miles come popping out.  Basically the MIRV concept, but smaller, non-nuclear and without reentry.  If I've thought of it, somebody at DARPA or Lockheed or some other MIC place has

Perhaps something like the 9M55K1 rocket?

The 9M55K1 rocket has been designed to engage moving and stationary armored vehicles employing 5 anti-tank submunitions. These submunitions weigh 15 kg each, feature a two-band infrared seeker and use top-attack profile to destroy any known armored vehicle.

(from )

These are available for the the BM-30 and 9A52-4 platforms.

El Vaquero's picture

Quite possibly, though the description is a wee bit terse, so I could be wrong in my understanding of what the anti-tank variant does.  But what I'm talking about would have a much wider range from the point where the components seperate.  Look up the GBU-39.  It's a bomb with wings so that it can hit a target something like 50 (approx) miles away from where it is dropped.  Then look up the AGM-176 Griffin.  It's a small air-to-ground or ground-to-ground missile.  Ground-to-ground, it has a range of something like 5 miles, and it is GPS/laser/inertial guided.  Now then, take something like the AGM-176, and modify it so that 4 or 6 or whatever of them can fit into a single bomb casing that deploys wings.  Now, you have a single munition that can be deployed 40 or 50 miles away, that when it gets to its location can hit 4 or 6 or however many targets over a radius of 5-10 miles.  

Give Me Some Truth's picture

Good analysis. Here's what I think is going to happen: Nothing. Since Trump (and Russia and China) are chess masters let's consider the possible moves ...

A) We nuke them first, a "pre-emptive" or "preventitive" attack. So, America becomes the first nation in world history to launch a nuclear attack on another nation which it had not previously been at war with. If you think the world hates and despises America now, wait until this happens (you know there will be pictures complete with 3-year-olds with melted faces). Probability this occurs: Almost zero.

B) America launches a conventional "surgical" attack. This is probably the most likely military option. Still, I don't think North Korea is going to just "take" such an attack. They will respond, probably with a massive attack on American troops in S. Korea and the nation of South Korea. It will then be "game on." Korean War II 65 years later. Can America literally fight such a war or have the willpower to fight such a war and endure such massive casulties? Does Trump want to be the president who got us into such a war? Probability this occurs: 0 to three percent.

C) North Korea does what it just said it is going to do and launches a nuclear strike on Guam. First, I doubt they can even do this. If the CIA and the media says they can, this means they can't. But say they can. North Korea just nuked an American territory. America will respond with massive nuclear counter-attack. 90 percent of the population of this country could be annihilated, including its leader and everyone he might care about. We're told North Korea and its leader are crazy and suicidal. Maybe their leader is a tad crazy, but he's not certifiably crazy plus eager to leave this world. Probability this happens: 0 to 1/4 of one percent.

Also, behind the scenes, I'm betting that China IS playing the gold card. "Trump, do what you want but if you start a fuckin' major war or nuclear war we're going to make sure the world knows how little gold you really have and let them know how much we really have. We're also going to dump every treasury bond we have. We'll miss selling to Wal-Mart and Amazon, but the world's a big place. We'll sell to every other country except yours. BTW, what's going to go on the shelves of Wal-Mart without Chinese-made goods? Who is going to make your people's I-phones?

And there's this bit of trivia: We're broke and getting a lot broker by the week. Also: The military is already over-extended and war-fatigued. Our best and most gung-ho troops have already retired or left the service.  If we do give it the old college try, our war efforts in all the other theaters we are engaged in will invariably suffer even greater setbacks, perhaps even more humiliation.

Bottom line: No war with North Korea. Now Syria and Iran ... The neocons won't give up easily (and Trump is now clearly one of them). But let's dodge one war at a time.

Stinkytofu's picture

"A) We nuke them first, a "pre-emptive" or "preventitive" attack. So, America becomes the first nation in world history to launch a nuclear attack on another nation which it had not previously been at war with." do realize that the usa is still *technically* at war with north korea, no?

(well......still at police action anyway.)

the artist's picture

Just the fact that Nork doesnt know if they should use mid or long range missles to hit guam tells me all I need to know.


Knobbius's picture

Don't forget about counter-battery radar. SK has the largest concentration of counter-battery systems in the world. These systems detect artillery shells and rockets in flight, work the trajectory backwards to compute the firing point, and then direct friendly batteries to fire at that spot. Usually the return fire can be on its way before the incoming shells land. So there's some more math to think about, namely the number of shells each sides artillery and counter-battery systems would fire before they were neutralized. Would be a fascinating simulation to see run.

The North has 10,000 artillery pieces, but only the larger caliber stuff can reliably reach Seoul. You're talking about some serious iron, though, 170 mm howitzers and big MRL systems. Probably 1500-2000 pieces in all. Prioritize those in any exchange, and the problem isn't quite as apocalyptic as dealing with 10,000 pieces. Still awful, lots of destruction in Seoul will occur, despite the certainty that the ROKs and US forces would win. So how many South Korean civilians is all of this worth?

El Vaquero's picture

So how many South Korean civilians is all of this worth?

And that's a question that I'd rather not answer.  If it's just 1500-2000 pieces that we have to worry about initially, then we could take care of those without spiffy classified weapons.  GBU-39s would suffice.  Even if dropped from F-15s and F-16s.

Oldwood's picture

So flying over SOUTH Korea is a provocation to NORTH Korea?

You will have to accept that our EXISTENCE is adequate threat for NK to act....the have been "acting" for decades now, cheating on every deal they have been given.....supplied food, fuel and god knows what else, and yet STILL they continue forward.

Personally, after years of destroying nations around he planet, I'm good with NK being our swan song of intervention. Tired of EVERYBODY'S SHIT.

It should be apparent to everyone by now that we are either going to be the biggest and baddest or we are NOT....and there is a cost to that. We can pretend that Trump is exacerbating this thing with NK but this was inevitable as they have never stopped their pursuit of nuke capable ICBMs, and THAT is what THIS is about. We are going to have to accept that this nation of idiots will be armed with nukes and threatening everyone for any reason they feel is in their best interests. We can empathize with them all we like and ultimately we ALL feel justified, but we will have to choose at some point.

If we look at our current economic situation, it is directly attributable to deferment of hard choices. Putting shit off, ignoring real costs while liability and risk accumulate. NK is but one more of these issues....something that if resolved decades ago would have prevented this CRISIS to exist.

But NO. Lets just ignore them...put it off. let someone else deal with it. Hope it just goes away.


Winston Churchill's picture

The US has broken every single deal made with it by the Norks.

Starting with the armistie,its a long and nasty list, only rivalled by the broken deals

with the native americans.So yes it is about the USs existence, but not in the way you're stating it.

And all these guys on here going on about US super secret weapons:


The Govt. are crooks, what else did you expect ?

Dancing Disraeli's picture

Everyone born within the 50 states is a native American. 

Call 'em red Indians or aboriginals if you wish to make a distinction.

OregonGrown's picture

WHY STOP AT GUAM???   Isnt DC just a hop skip and a jump away?

thesonandheir's picture

Please EMP NYSE Mr Kim!


Then a full tactical nuke strike on the following:







BBC HQ, London

European Central Bank, Frankfurt




BarkingCat's picture

Sacramento too. It might make Kalifornia sane again.

markovchainey's picture

 Just nuke Washington D.C.


Misplacedcowboy's picture
Geographic coordinates of Berkeley, California, USA

Latitude: 37°52?17? N
Longitude: 122°16?21? W

True Blue's picture

Shhhhhh, He probably doesn't know that is where secret Washington is hidden. Now we're doomed. Doomed!

(AKA Please gon't throw me in that briar patch! Please!)

Hulk's picture

Dude !!! He is not allowed !!! Bezerkeley is a nuclear free zone you silly billy !!!

yogibear's picture

Diversion. Fat boy Un will hit a target nobody is thinking of.

Stuck on Zero's picture

Lil Kim can make fortunes playing the futures markets by issuing crazy press releases. He's probably actually living in NYC East Village.

Nostradumbass's picture

Dear 'Lil Kim, PLEASE lob your nukes at D.C., Google/Facebook/Amazon/Twitter HQs and turn Silicon Valley into radioactive glass.

Thank you,


PhattyBuoy's picture

Payload is delivered by water ... anywhere !


Guam is easy target.

vaporland's picture

NK possesses 5000 TONS of chemical and biological agents. and half-mile deep hardened bunkers.

probably not gonna end well. get used to trump as president. once state of emergency is declared he'll be in there a while.

dogismycopilot's picture

If I were Fat Boy, I would send some Small Pox/Plague into Seoul to keep them busy for a few months.

halcyon's picture

That's because you get your opinion fro US CIA MSM. Kaching! Bought. 

keep the bastards honest's picture

Thought US had set up under Kissinger in Africa, many decades ago, laboratories for development of such and as always happens with these, there were leaks..   I would be surprised if Kim used smallpox ebola or plague. Different peoples have differnt ideas. NK been on the target list since  911 and before... lot of resources and on China's doorstep.

zebra77a's picture

Epic rapppp batttlezzzzz... begin!!

I'm Kimmie master of trade guam best fear our nuke blades..

Imma Trump you aint seen nothing yet NK soon feel our nuke regretz..

Drop the tweetz...

This message is Onion Approved..

MsCreant's picture

Huff, the magic drag queen, was a fat pygmy

We caught him in a Rodman tryst, in a land called Wannabee.. 

Huff, the magic drag queen, wanted to bomb me

He launched into the Guamam mist, to a land that he could see...


countryboy42's picture

That was well done.

I'm gonna listen to some Glen Campbell for a bit. Thanks for the laugh.

Gardentoolnumber5's picture

I don't know much about THAAD or whether it could be mounted on a ship or not. They have been testing THAAD for some time and I don't really understand why they wouldn't "test" it by shooting down NK's missiles as soon as they reach international territory. Well, that's if they really wanted to start some shit, which they seem intent on doing, anyway.