Ben Garrison On Dirty Politics & "Flirting With Civil War"

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Ben Garrison via GrrrGraphics.com,

Robert Mueller is used to dirt. He was complicit in pushing the non-existent Iraq connection to 9-11, which was a lie concocted by Vice President Dick Cheney. (The power behind George W. Bush's throne). It was a fabrication that led to the death of a half million people. He defended the Patriot Act, torture and unlimited surveillance of the American people. He didn’t question the phony, ‘official’ 9-11 narrative. Like his corrupt associate Comey, Mueller is a Deep State collaborator.

He’s also a bag man who easily bends to political pressure--another similarity he shares with Comey. That’s why he was chosen for his latest assignment: the framing of President Trump. The former FBI director under Bush and Obama probably knows the Russia ‘election hacking’ narrative is nothing but a wild goose chase, so now he wants to investigate Trump’s finances. Even a CNN pointed out that this is wrong and beyond the scope. But Mueller isn’t reeling anything in on his fishing expedition so he wants to cast out farther and farther.

After losing the election in a spectacular manner, Hillary and Podesta invented the 'Russia/Trump collusion’ fairy tale not only as an excuse, but also as a means to divert attention away from their very real criminal corruption. They love to blame their enemies for the evil that they themselves commit, which is an old Saul Alinksy trick. Using the Clinton Foundation as a money-laundering operation, Hillary accepted ‘pay for play’ cash from Russia as part of her Uranium One deal. While she was Secretary of State, her husband received $500,000 for a speech he delivered in Moscow. Putin was obviously buying influence from Hillary. Now that she’s not president and can’t easily cover up her traitorous misdeeds, she found it necessary to paint President Trump as the traitor.

Hillary is using Mueller as her personal bloodhound. He’s out sniffing on a trail with no scent, but he still hopes it will lead to President Trump regardless. A far less pristine trail leads to crooked Hillary as well as Obama, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and many others. Despite the abundance of redolent clues they’ve left behind, Mueller has been assigned to sniff at President Trump. It’s a waste of time and taxpayer money.

It’s a charade designed to hide the criminal misdeeds of the Deep State itself.

They may fabricate lies to remove President Trump, but in doing so they’ll also be flirting with civil war. Too many constitutional republic-loving Americans will not tolerate a coup by the swamp.

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MFL5591's picture

This will not be a civil war, it will be a return to a republic.  The disdain of the American people is the group in DC, the Federal Reserve, and courrption within the beltway and those influencing them, not their neighbors!

Duc888's picture

 

 

 

True.... well, there are some butthurt special snowflakes out there though.....

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/08/gop-committeeman-just-publi...

The Cooler King's picture

So, which "WAR" is it today?

 

Civil War? Nork War? Syrian War? Iraq War? Afghanistan? War on Terror? War on Drugs? Race War?

 

If this were THE MAN SHOW, you could just spin the WHEEL OF DESTINY to see which war to push today. But of course, if you had a show like that, you'd be a misogynist homophobic and risk starting a WAR with the pussy hatters & wouldn't even be served in some coffee bars in Australia

a Smudge by any other name's picture

Yeah having trouble seeing that movie. I mean, I can see political cartoonists, writers of every right spectrum of light hammering away continuously and especially the many brave commenters of ZH leaping into the fight. Keyboards blazing fury and fury. And I can see millions of people just READING AWAY FOR ALL THEY ARE WORTH on their cell phones and social networks.

I see batteries running dead and chips cooking late into the night.

But civil war if Trump is deposed? I'm sorry but from the common man's perscpective it's just another war. They make the rules, we try to scrape by under them.

thatthingcanfly's picture

You read further than I did.

I stopped reading after he channelled the 9-11 conspiracy "phony narrative" nonsense.

Not. On. An. Even. Keel.

detached.amusement's picture

Thinking people that have a quarter of a brain or more dont believe the bullshit official narrative

does not appear that your sailboat HAS a keel

thatthingcanfly's picture

Concealment of the identity of the Saudis (connected to the royal family) who helped finance the 9-11 hijackers - now THAT'S interesting. And despicable.

Claiming that we all DIDN'T see what we good and well DID see that day, when 14 Muslims (not Jews), hijacked and flew our own planes into buildings, and that shaped charges were placed in the buildings, and it was all a conspiracy by Bush/Cheney/Mossad/Space Aliens/Putin, and radioactive dust and molten steel and blah blah blah: that's where I escort you Alex Jones wannabes to the nearest rubber room and lock you in there, where you can do little harm to yourselves and unto others.

Because if you believe THAT garbage, and that the Apollo lunar landings were faked, and that contrails spray government brainwashing chemicals, and that the Devil's Den mesas are ancient tree stumps that were cut down by giants, then, well... you are just too fucking stupid to breathe.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Trump is right where the Debt-Money Monopolists want him... with their $2 billion in free MSM advertising that put him in office.

HopefulCynical's picture

Claiming that we all DIDN'T see what we good and well DID see that day...

Jesus Fucking Christ on a Goddamn Rubber Raft - I've never seen such an enormous army of strawmen in my life.

To believe the official narrative of 9/11 is to believe in cartoon physics.

End. Of. Story.

thatthingcanfly's picture

You have not studied physics or metallurgy. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Check yourself into the nearest psych ward with a rubber room, right away.

All Risk No Reward's picture

>>You have not studied physics or metallurgy. You have no idea what you're talking about.<<

I did study physics, and simple physics proves that the top of the WTC didn't smash the lower section of the WTC because the top of the building never decelerated as it fell THROUGH the lower section of the already unzipping building.

This is remedial physics and ANYONE can understand the basics in less than an hour. The idea one has to study physics for an extended period of time or they can't know the intricacies of 911 is a fallacy only someone ignorant of the issues or dishonest would promote.

That's an irrefutable FACT. But it won't phase you, because you know nothing of merit that you can apply... so you will hold onto your appeal to authority logical fallacy like a starving baby holds onto her mother's breast...

What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHeCjZlkr8

9/11 Collapses Violated Fundamental Laws of Physics - Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVHWiZu8NM

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."
~Michael Rivero

Moral cowards won't be able to think enough about the facts provided to provide an intelligent response... you will have no response, will you?

jeff montanye's picture

you are dead stone wrong.  9-11 was a likud/mossad job assisted by their sayanim and assets in the u.s. such as silverstein and wolfowitz, cheney, bush and rumsfeld.  every way this event is examined, zionists turn up.  for starters, watch the actual destruction in slow motion up close.  that is not a building collapsing, that is a building being destroyed by explosions.  never before have buildings collapsed in this way, especially building 7.  so why not a really good investigation of such events if only for the civil engineers and architects?  instead two investigations, one budgeted at less than that into monica' splooged dress, the other eliminating explosions as a possible cause before the investigation began.  i could stop here but it, of course, goes on and on and on.

bush sits for, what, twenty minutes in a public place he is known to occupy as the u.s. receives the worst attack on the continent since the war of 1812?  the secret service doesn't move.  is this likely if it weren't an inside job?  rumsfeld, head of defense, abandons his desk for litter detail with a black plastic bag on the pentagon lawn for two hours.  is this the best use of his time?  maybe so if he's getting evidence to suppress, otherwise no.  cheney is in the bunker being asked if the orders still stand.  what is the likely order that a u.s. serviceman would continue to question?  certainly not a shoot down.  for one thing it would be done and be over.  more likely an order not to shoot down the plane heading toward the pentagon; nothing else makes sense.

after the calamity, mossad members are arrested in n.j. photographing and celebrating.  they were later sent back to israel without any charges where they state on israeli t.v. that they went over "to document the event".  ditto and add saudi arabia and questioning of any sort for the bin laden family, flying on a day when no one else did.  stop here?  oh there's so much more.

the wtc (where mueller's boys turned up four days after the attacks,  al-Suqami's passport among the rubble on Vesey Street.  According to testimony before the 9/11 Commission by lead counsel Susan Ginsburg, his passport had been "manipulated in a fraudulent manner".  the rubble still glowed red and showed up on infrared sattelites for months after even though four million gallons of water were dropped on the rubble in the ten days following, along with flame retardant.

the steel from the wreckage at the wtc, primary evidence in both a unique attack and a unique collapse, was cut up and shipped to china for smelting as fast as possible.  the crash site in pennsylvania was never excavated but instead a huge concrete pad and wall have been placed upon it.  local coroner continues to assert no bodies were found at the crash site, not even a "single drop of blood".  

all 9-11 families' suit against the (often israeli) companies connected with security (passenger screening, anti hijacking instruments, faa software, all israeli) were all dismissed by alvin k hellerstein whose israeli lawyer son worked for the firm representing some of these defendant israeli companies.  had enough?  no?  well check this out:

http://www.voltairenet.org/article179295.html

http://www.whale.to/b/israel_did_911.html

https://sites.google.com/site/onedemocraticstatesite/archives/-solving-9...

http://www.amazon.com/Solving-9-11-Deception-Changed-World/dp/0985322586

http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl....   

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/everything-rich-man-trick/

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/098213150X/sr=1-1/qid=1467687982/ref=olp_pro...

http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgE-hGNy2W0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYUYya6bPGw

All Risk No Reward's picture

>>9-11 was a likud/mossad job assisted by their sayanim and assets in the u.s. such as silverstein and wolfowitz, cheney, bush and rumsfeld. every way this event is examined, zionists turn up. for starters, watch the actual destruction in slow motion up close. that is not a building collapsing, that is a building being destroyed by explosions. never before have buildings collapsed in this way, especially building 7. so why not a really good investigation of such events if only for the civil engineers and architects? instead two investigations, one budgeted at less than that into monica' splooged dress, the other eliminating explosions as a possible cause before the investigation began. i could stop here but it, of course, goes on and on and on.<<

1. Debt-Money Monopolists financed likud/mossad.
2. Debt-Money Monopolists financed Silverstein, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Bush, and Rumsfeld.
4. Debt-Money Monopolists also financed NIST.
5. Debt-Money Monopolists also finance the government as a whole, as well as all the politicians.

Here is absolute proof, beyond any and all doubt, that the top of the building DID NOT crush the lower section of the building (hint - the top of the building never hit the lower section of the building as evidenced by ZERO OBSERVED DECELERATION as the top of the building fell through the lower section of the building as it was dustified before our very eyes.

What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHeCjZlkr8

This isn't a hypothesis or theory, this is ABSOLUTE FACT based on Newton's Third Law.

As for the buildings blowing up... I'm not so sure. bombs don't typically cause cement to dustify and blow away, let alone solid steel beams turning to dust and blowing away before they had time to hit the ground.

North Tower Spire Turns To Dust on 9/11 - WTC Dustification
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XJdyRItQvE

Could bombs have played a role? Sure. Could nanothermite have played a role? Sure.

But neither caused some of the strongest steel beams ever made to dustify in midair. Something else did that.

Perhaps Dr. Judy Woods is right - Tesla's technology has been advanced by the Debt-Money Monopolists into a new type of weapon that was on public display on 911.

thatthingcanfly's picture

Why do you believe that any of that garbage was "well said?" They did a cut & paste job from some nutty 911 conspiracy website.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Let me focus your attention to the data and logic that proves, beyond any and all doubt, that the top of the building never hit the lower section of the building AS EVIDENCED BY A COMPLETE LACK OF DECELERATION as the top of the building fell through an already disintegrating lower section of the building...

What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHeCjZlkr8

The argument is best made in the video, so I link the video.

Being an almost certain moral coward, you will justify not viewing and not critically thinking about the material presented... the equivalent of a small little child who thinks it is best to hide under the covers when he hears a rattle downstairs...

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."
~Michael Rivero

thatthingcanfly's picture

Too stupid to breathe.

Go learn something about metallurgy, and the unique design of Towers 1 and 2. Until then, quit the cut & paste jobs.

JRobby's picture

It feels like the time has come for "We The People" to do something about it. 16 years later.

Cynicles II's picture

The "War on Liberty" continues.

JRobby's picture

I don't care about them. I ignore them and they generally stay out of my way because as stupid as they are, they sense the projection unbridled hate.

jane says's picture

We've seen the enemy and it's THEM.

a Smudge by any other name's picture

Sadly in this day and age it's always they keyboards that suffer first and worst. Every time a politician speaks a keyboard dies spectacularly.

All Risk No Reward's picture

THEM = Debt-Money Monopolist Mega-Corporate Fascist Empire and the "human power elite" that operate it.

Loose Caboose's picture

The disdain of the American people is the group in DC, the Federal Reserve, and courrption within the beltway and those influencing them, not their neighbors!

Unfortunately, a lot of their neighbours will be cheering when/if Trump goes down and will be ready to coronate Hillary.  They are uninformed and ready to surrender to the globalist agenda.  There won't be a choice whether or not to fight them.  In fact, patriots will need to defend themselves against them.   It will be a civil war.

BlueGreen's picture

Fighting them first starts with their hearts and minds.  Use the same bs the NWO uses to lead them around.  Lie to them, promise them things they will never get, and most importantly feed thier self rightous ego...... really psyops started the war already, fun fun when it it hopefully goes 'hot'

All Risk No Reward's picture

>>It will be a civil war.<<

And the Debt-Money Monopolists will win.

You see, they are waging war against ALL ordinary people, regardless of political affiliation.

They will sit back and enjoy watching ordinary people destroy each other... the will probably place bets on it like so many people do who like watching chicken fights.

Barney Fife's picture

TPTB WANT us to fight each other so that we do not fight THEM. 

Chew on that. 

SquadronVBF94's picture

I'm not so sure about that. I've got some leftist neighbors who are so ignorant as to be beyond redemption.

jeff montanye's picture

it is totally heartwarming to see the republican base so radicalized.  now we have to get the bernie (tulsi) people in a similar place.  the beck suit against the dnc is the probably the best and likeliest to reach fruition, though the seth rich theft of the dnc emails (and possible murder) offers promise as he was a bernie supporter.

veritas semper vinces's picture

Well said,Jeff.The Left Psychopaths and their minions vs the Right Psychopaths and their minions.

Who;s going to win.

The psychopath puppet masters. Who have only one God: Mammon,the god of money.The REAL rulers.

Barney Fife's picture

And Mammon is one of the greater demons of Lucifer. 

HRClinton's picture

Bingo!  You nailed it!

Except that prison terms are too good for the DC vermin, parasites and scum. Short of capital punishments, there will be no deterrence. 

And without going after the (((International Moneychangers))) behind it all, the New Republic would be doomed from the outset.

detached.amusement's picture

Superlatively wishful thinking

detached.amusement's picture

hey, I wish you could possibly be correct about it, but the only people that are optimistic about this are those who are completely ignorant of a whole lot of reality.

it'd be damned nice if you could be correct about it.

you just havent seen the mold on the brick wall at the back of the theater - yet

Barney Fife's picture

Don't be so rash. 

10 years ago most of these people would have been soundly mocked. 

5 years ago they'd have been thought of as "fringe and out of touch". 

Now people are opening frothing at the mouth. 

You really need to take a step back and look at the timeline of events in the US to see what is happening. 

For those that scoff at the idea of an uprising, may I remind you that as little as 5 years ago this would have NEVER been mentioned in almost any circle? 

Times are a changin'. 

JRobby's picture

It's amazing how dirty Mueller is but no one of note screamed when he was appointed. Because they are all on the payroll and or leveraged by blackmail.

Clock Crasher's picture

No justice forth coming.  Crimes against humanity are met with the consequence of untold riches and prosperity for those committing the offenses.  The more devastating the leaks are the less impact they have over there in the swamp.  The leaks will not stop but society at large will remain buried in their Soma trance.

Our only hope.. hubristic over reach resulting in self imposed collapse of the Deep State.

+1 for the accuracy of this article.  Dead on.  Truth lvl 11.

junction's picture

Just follow the blood stained corporations and they all lead to the Bush Crime Cartel, the Rothschild's accomplices in America.  For example, the Bush controlled Carlyle Group owned the ammunition company that made the depleted uranium rounds that have contaminated American battlefields around the world.   http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html#.WYx92lWGN0w

Against the entrenched evil of the Rothschilds, Trump is powerless, as he well knows.  

 

 

thatthingcanfly's picture

Ugh. Depleted uranium does not "contaminate[] American battlefields around the world," because depleted uranium is barely radioactive at all. We use that in ammunition because of its high density. Were you asleep in 10th grade chemistry?

woody188's picture

I believe the health argument is from the inhaling of the dust from the spent munitions and the appearance of deformities in the children of war torn areas where DU munitions were used. Not aware of any study linking the two, just the speculative conjecture on the Interwebs.

S.N.A.F.U.'s picture

From here:

"The Institute of Nuclear Technology-Radiation Protection of Attiki, Greece, has noted that "the aerosol produced during impact and combustion of depleted uranium munitions can potentially contaminate wide areas around the impact sites or can be inhaled by civilians and military personnel"."

"As early as 1997, British Army doctors warned the Ministry of Defence that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions. According to a report issued summarizing the advice of the doctors, "Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance-if any. ... Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage of the lung leading to cancer." The report warns that "All personnel ... should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk ... [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers." In 2003, the Royal Society called, again, for urgent attention to be paid to the possible health and environmental impact of depleted uranium, and added its backing to the United Nations Environment Programme's call for a scientific assessment of sites struck with depleted uranium. In early 2004, the UK Pensions Appeal Tribunal Service attributed birth defect claims from a February 1991 Gulf War combat veteran to depleted uranium poisoning. Also, a 2005 epidemiology review concluded: "In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU." Studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents continue to suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure."

"The chemical toxicity of depleted uranium is about a million times greater in vivo than its radiological hazard"

"Compilation of 2004 Review Information Regarding Uranium Toxicity ...
Damage to Proximal convoluted tubules, necrotic cells cast from tubular epithelium, glomerular changes ...
Acute cholinergic toxicity; Dose-dependent accumulation in cortex, midbrain, and vermis; Electrophysiological changes in hippocampus ...
Increased urine mutagenicity and induction of tumors ...
Inhibition of periodontal bone formation; and alveolar wound healing ...
Moderate to severe focal tubular atrophy; vacuolization of Leydig cells ...
Severe nasal congestion and hemorrage, lung lesions and fibrosis, edema and swelling, lung cancer ...
Swollen vacuolated epidermal cells, damage to hair follicles and sebaceous glands ...
Conjunctivitis, irritation inflammation, edema, ulceration of conjunctival sacs ...
Decrease in RBC count and hemoglobin concentration"

"Epidemiological studies and toxicological tests on laboratory animals point to it as being immunotoxic, teratogenic, neurotoxic, with carcinogenic and leukemogenic potential. A 2005 report by epidemiologists concluded: "the human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons exposed to DU.""

"The primary radiation danger from pure depleted uranium is due to alpha particles, which do not travel far through air, and do not penetrate clothing. However, in a matter of a month or so, a sample of pure depleted uranium will generate small amounts of thorium-234 and protactinium-234, which emit the more penetrating beta particles at almost the same rate as the uranium emits alpha rays. This is because uranium-238 decays directly to thorium-234, which with a half-life of 24 days decays to protactinium-234, which in turn decays in a matter of hours to the long-lived uranium-234. A quasi-steady state is therefore reached within a few multiples of 24 days.
Available evidence suggests that the radiation risk is small relative to the chemical hazard."

"DU was used in 30 mm and 25 mm cannon rounds on a large scale for the first time in the Gulf War. Veterans of the conflicts in the Persian Gulf, Bosnia and Kosovo have been found to have up to 14 times the usual level of chromosome abnormalities in their genes."

"Human epidemiological evidence is consistent with increased risk of birth defects in the offspring of persons exposed to DU. A 2001 study of 15,000 February 1991 U.S. Gulf War combat veterans and 15,000 control veterans found that the Gulf War veterans were 1.8 (fathers) to 2.8 (mothers) times as likely to have children with birth defects. After examination of children's medical records two years later, the birth defect rate increased by more than 20%"

"Studies by the U.S. Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute conclude that moderate exposures to either depleted uranium or uranium present a significant toxicological threat."

"Since 2001, medical personnel at the Basra hospital in southern Iraq have reported a sharp increase in the incidence of child leukemia and genetic malformation among babies born in the decade following the Gulf War. Iraqi doctors attributed these malformations to possible long-term effects of DU, an opinion that was echoed by several newspapers. In 2004, Iraq had the highest mortality rate due to leukemia of any country."

"Four studies in the second half of 2012 - one of which described the people of Fallujah as having "the highest rate of genetic damage in any population ever studied" - renewed calls for the US and UK to investigate the possible links between their military assault on the city in 2004 and the explosion in deformities, cancers, and other serious health problems."

lol:
"A 1999 literature review conducted by the Rand Corporation stated: "No evidence is documented in the literature of cancer or any other negative health effect related to the radiation received from exposure to depleted or natural uranium, whether inhaled or ingested, even at very high doses""
"A 2005 study by Sandia National Laboratories' Al Marshall used mathematical models to analyze potential health effects associated with accidental exposure to depleted uranium during the 1991 Gulf War. Marshall's study concluded that the reports of cancer risks from DU exposure are not supported by his analysis nor by veteran medical statistics."
(hey, as long as they have a model that says it's safe!)

Barney Fife's picture

Don't speak if you are not certain of what you know. 

Depleted uranium (DU) is RADIOACTIVE. Damage to cells is caused by cummulative, or integrative effects of ionizing radiation, so while one can safely handle DU, such as when loading a 30 mike mike cannon due to its  RELATIVELY LOW emittance, the users are not affected due to the short period of accumulation of alpha, beta, and gamma radiation. They also receive some protective attenuation from skin, clothes, and gloves, particularly with respect to alpha and beta particles. Not so much, if any, with gamma. Plus the source is temporary and not persisistant. You don't go to bed with 30 mike mike shells next to your pillow and then carry them around all day. 

However, when one INHALES DU dust, that dust is persistant in the body. WORSE, the alpha and beta particles are NOT attentuated by skin and clothes so their ionizing effect is orders of magnitude higher. Inhalation is a far more destructive mechanism of ionization and that RELATIVE radioactivity, when combined with the loss of attenuating barriers and PERSISTANCE now becomes extremely significant. 

This is a classic case of knowing just a little yet thinking one knows a lot.  What's worse than not having a clue is thinking that you do when in fact you don't. 

 

 

thatthingcanfly's picture

You assume too much there, sparky.

There are a lot of things one encounters on the battlefield that, if inhaled, are bad for you. All the studies of people who lived in and around combat zones, who developed medical issues years later, should not be interpreted to be ALL related to DU. That's an absolutely ridiculous assertion.

It would be false for me to claim that DU is not radioactive at all, because pretty much everything in the Universe is radioactive to some degree. DU is a very low alpha emitter, with the half life of U-238 being 4.5 billion years. So, yeah, not really that radioactive. For comparison, the human body's half-life for elimination of U-238 is about 15 days.

S.N.A.F.U.'s picture

"4.5 billion years"

Which sounds like a lot, until you consider that just 1 gram of DU contains about 2.5e21 atoms, resulting in about 9,000 U238 decays per second.  And when you consider that U238 decays to Th234 which itself has a half-life of only 24 days, the number of decays per second is actually double that.  And the Pa234 then decays to U234 in a matter of hours, so it's actually triple that.  So 1 gram of DU yields about 27,000 decays per second.  You then have to consider how many grams total a population might be subjected to over how many seconds - even with fractional gram exposures, it adds up pretty quick.

To get perspective, this can be compared to the main natural source of radiation in animals which is the decaying of K40.  That produces around 4,300 decays per second in the typical human body.  You then have to look at the details - U238->Th234 produces alpha particles, while Th234->Pa234, Pa234->U234 and the decay of K40 all produce beta particles (though K40 only produces such particles about 90% of the time - about 10% of the decays involve absorbing an electron instead of emitting one, while emitting a gamma ray).  K40's beta emission has an energy of 1.3MeV compared to the higher energy of Pa234->U234 which is 2.3MeV and the even higher U238->Th234 energy which is 4.3MeV.  When you are talking about potential for biological damage (sieverts) rather than just activity (decays per second - aka becquerels), in vivo alpha radiation is considered 20 times more harmful than gamma and beta radiation (see here).

So the radiation impact of particulate U238 breathed in or ingested is not just "not zero" in some trivial sense of "well, everything's a little radioactive".  It doesn't take very much of it (something on the order of four hundredths of a gram) to become an individual's top radiation risk.  While chemical toxicity is the far greater risk presented by in vivo DU, pretending its radiation presents no significant risk is grossly disingenuous/ignorant.

Honey-Badger's picture

Mueller is so full of shit if you gave him an enema his remains would fit in a matchbox.

44MagnumPrepper's picture

Civil war will be brief.  Our side is stock with guns and ammo, their side can't figure out which bathroom to shit in.