China Warns Trump: "We Will Prevent A North Korea Regime Change"

Tyler Durden's picture

In a troubling repudiation of President Donald Trump’s demands that Beijing do more to rein in its bellicose neighbor, Beijing, through the state-owned media, cautioned the US president on Friday that it would intervene (militarily) on North Korea’s behalf if the US and South Korea launch a preemptive strike to “overthrow the North Korean regime,” according to a statement in the influential state-run newspaper Global Times.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so," it said.

At the same time, the Chinese regime  made it clear that its preferred outcome would be a continuation of the status quo, warning Kim Jong Un that it would "remain neutral if North Korea were to strike first." The article, cited by Rueters,  reiterated calls for a diplomatic solution. However, the possibility of talks between the two sides was looking increasingly remote as both Trump and Kim continued to exchange threats of nuclear annihilation, with Trump clarifying Thursday that his earlier promise to respond with “fire and fury” should the North continue to threaten the US may not have gone far enough.

China - North Korea's most important ally and trading partner -  has reiterated calls for calm during the current crisis. Beijing has expressed frustration with both Pyongyang's repeated nuclear and missile tests and with behavior from South Korea and the United States, such as military drills, that it sees as escalating tensions.

"China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," the Global Times, which is widely read but does not represent government policy, said in an editorial.

Meanwhile, as the North may be planning its next ICBM launch, the US is stepping up military exercises with Japan and South Korea.

“On Thursday, U.S. and Japanese troops began an 18-day live fire exercise on the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido, which was to include rocket artillery drills and involve 3,500 troops. The Northern Viper drills are one of the scheduled exercises that Japan's Self Defense Forces conducts regularly with their U.S. counterparts and are not a response to the latest tensions. South Korean and U.S. troops are also gearing up for an annual joint drill from Aug. 21, called the Ulchi Freedom Guardian, in which up to 30,000 U.S. troops will take part.”

US officials were also discussing coordinated contingency plans on Friday to formulate exactly how the allies would respond to an attack.

“South Korea's national security adviser Chung Eui-yong and his U.S. counterpart H.R. McMaster spoke on the phone for 40 minutes early on Friday, a spokesman for the presidential Blue House in Seoul said. The two discussed responses to North Korean provocations and the security situation on the Korean peninsula, he said.”

Not surprisingly, analysts have compared the standoff between the two nuclear powers (the North is a recent, if untested, member of this club) to a modern day Cuban Missile crisis.  "This situation is beginning to develop into this generation's Cuban Missile crisis moment," ING's chief Asia economist Robert Carnell said in a research note. "While the U.S. president insists on ramping up the war of words, there is a decreasing chance of any diplomatic solution."

Judging by the markets' reaction in the past 48 hours, this troubling reality has finally filtering through to risk assets.

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The Cooler King's picture

Al Gore Carbon 'footprint'

 

- Private Jet

- Limousine Fleet

- 100' Houseboat

- 22 room mansion (fully lit)

 

 

- ZERO solar panels

- ZERO Teslas

 

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Gore+facts+a+couple+of+al+gore+memes+he...

JuliaS's picture

First summer in recent memory when I didn't have to wheel the air conditioning unit out of the storage locker even once. Thanks, Global Warming!

Bubba Rum Das's picture

"So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?"

Because 'Global Warming' is 'Cultural Fucking Marxism'; That's Why!!!

oncefired's picture

Ocean Levels are down......but you fucking tree huggers did all you could to hide or change the facts!

froze25's picture

Global warming is a scam pushed to fund a tax that would be paid to a central global authority,  nothing more. Just another wealth transfer from those that earned it to those that didnt.

CheapBastard's picture

Sadly, China cites "diplomacy" as a solution.

However, diplomacy is a lost art in America ever since Bush Sr. invaded Iraq claiming babies were being tron from incubators...a total lie fabricated by Kuwait.

Plus, diplomacy is not as profitable for bankers as blood soaked soil in a foreign land---just look at Bush, Jr killling over a million people and Obama & Hitlery at least a million. Obama seemed to relish bombing wedding parties and hospitals.

However, my guess is Trump is palying his cards right  with harsh words but he knows the costs of wars and was against the Iraq wars while Hillary, Obama and the other all cheered it on.

emersonreturn's picture

you had me until you said...my guess is trump is playing his cards right....  really?

VZ58's picture

Oh my. SlackJack didn't take her medication this morning, eh? Yeah, worry about climate change. You sound like a Google executive. Head in the sand. The rest will worry about a nuke dropping on their heads. You will die regardless. Time to start singing: "lalalalalala" I can't hear you!"Princess.

The Wizard's picture

Oh, read this Mr. Jack

http://www.climatedepot.com/2017/08/04/temperatures-plunge-after-australias-bureau-of-meteorology-orders-fix/
TEMPERATURE READINGS PLUNGE AFTER AUSTRALIA’S BUREAU OF ... www.climatedepot.com Recorded temperatures at the Bureau­ of Meteorology’s Thredbo Top automatic weather station have dropped below -10C in the past week, after action was taken to ...

GoingBig's picture

dude, look who runs that website. He is a republican political aide. 

Syrin's picture

Hey shir fuck, global temps are decreasing.   Antartic ice at record thickness and volume, oceanic temps decreasing, Great Lakes frozen YEAR round altering shipping lanes, NOAA caught altering data three times in just 2017 alone.   Go fuck yourself.   Plus, show me how raising taxes changes the global temp one degree EITHER way.   You fascist fuckheads need to be purged.

GoingBig's picture

Sorry but your data is wrong. Im not sure what is with all of the science deniers. Probably didn't pay attention during school and learn about the scientific method.  

And really, "go fuck yourself" just because you don't agree with someone? How do you get along in society?

Victor von Doom's picture

By spurning Communists like a rabid dog.

Michael Musashi's picture

Don't be silly, pal. If you live on the East Coast you might be thinking there's global cooling. It dipped as low as 69 degrees last week in NYC, and today it's 78... it's friggen August!!! I grew up in NYC area. I remember August and being a kid with no AC in the 1970's... it was friggen brutal!!!

Now I live in Phoenix, AZ. Sure, June was brutal here for about a week, but July and August have been really mild.

So, you might be having some global warming where you are, but for large areas of the USA people are not.

Oh, and that goes for Asia, too. My wife is from Japan, they're having a lousy summer, cool and rainy so far and it's friggen AUGUST!!!!

Tell me again about this melt down???

The only "data" you need is to go outside.

IronForge's picture

Happens once in awhile.  Long ago, that situation caused famine for the  farmers.

hmmmstrange's picture

SJ, dont worry, we will get nuclear winter soon enough and your global warming will be fixed.

swamp's picture

Wasn't the earth once covered in ice?
No kidding it has warmed since then.

cryingfreeman's picture

Utter tripe. I have it on the Highest Authority that sea levels will not rise ever again.

Gold Pedant's picture

I logged in to downvote you. You and people like "Alt-Right" "Girl" (probably a trolling guy) need to quit spamming non-sequiturs. If you are not referencing the parent in your reply, do not reply to the parent post.

BarkingCat's picture

Maybe you can get together with PedoBob and run away together to a rocky island.

Dormouse's picture

Speaking of China (and your so-called Global Warming), they know sea level rise is bullshit. They just built island military bases to the tune of billions of dollars. They built the fucking islands and they're the number one producer of "greenhouse gases" and pollution. Silly Chineses

dark pools of soros's picture

cloud seeding is fucking up the climate and warming areas more than any carbon paw prints

Doom Porn Star's picture

***REPOSTED***

 

***Addressing " the human causes of 'climate disruption' " : the burden of scientific proof.***


Unfounded assertions can be as damaging as any form of plague, catastrophy, or warfare.

Some unfounded assertions are so destructive as to be bona fide crimes against humanity.

The assertion that human industrial activities are directly resulting in irreversible and catastrophic climate change is one such assertion.  

IF the assertion that human industrial activity is damanging the global climate system and endangering the survival of the entire human populace is a knowingly false asserton made for political purposes, whatever their ideological basis, it is a lie of monumental proportions and paramount criminality.

Many people actually feel mortally threatened, and arguably -rightfully so; as the assertion has been made that certain human activities are irrevocably disrupting, even destroying the natural balances within the climate system of the whole planet, and by this destructive behavior these activities will shortly render it irreversibly uninhabitable by mankind.  

It is easy for those that believe this assertion to believe it, as those that maintain this assertion also maintain that they have reached a scientific consensus' supporting that view.  

But science does not and cannot certify assertions.   Democratic social and political consensus may certify popular sentiments and widly shared opinions; but, science does not and can cannot.

There can be NO ‘consensus' in science.  There is either PROOF or their is NOT PROOF.

IF certain human activities are indeed altering the global climate systems, and endangering the wider ecology of the planet -including endangering humankind: then something MUST indeed be done; and is reasonable to argue that it is uniquely criminal to argue otherwise or obstruct saving all of humankind from a catastrophic disruption of the global climate system.   

The issue devolves down to proving or disproving the assertion.

The stakes could not be higher.   The validity of the entirety of existing industrialized economic systems are blatantly challenged by this assertion that they are criminally destructive to the entire human populace.

This is where the disciplines of scientific processes must be respected and the rigors associated with scientific proof stringently maintained and upheld.

The assertion must be proved or disproved lest entire economies are swiftly deconstructed and human standards of living in the develped and developing world are drastically, possibly permanently diminished and inhibited.

The human toll from pursuing a rapid de-industrialization without proof of the absolute necessity of doing so must be considered, and the basis for such a drastic disruption to industrialization must be proven before vast economies are hobbled and progress in raising and maintaining living standards are infringed.

...And IF it should be discoved that the scientific basis upon which so much human progress has been built have been debased and weaponized politically to achieve agenda of disenfranchisement or to punish the citizens of industrialized and developing economies for their progresses; it is indeed a crime of the highest order against all of mankind.

The assertion that human industrial activity is irrevocably disruptive of and damaging to the gloabl climate system inarguably demands a strict verifiable burden of scientic proof.

It is in the best interests of all of the inhabitants of the Earth to continue to progress in raising standards of living in all developed and developing economies; and no disruption or inhibition of human endeavor to better mankind should be contemplated without unassailable scientific proof that the present path of industrial progress is in itself destructive and fatal.

Doom Porn Star's picture

I defy the dogmatic and politically motivated assertion that human casusation for climate change.

Science is not a matter of consesus but of proof.

Scientific proof that human industrial activity has resulted in gloabal climate chande has not been provided.

Ghost of PartysOver's picture

It would appear that Trump has forced out into the public eye China's true intention.  Remember China's bullshit about how they would work together?   At least now we know where China stands on this issue.  Score one for Trump on forcings China's hand.  Maybe it is time for Trump to get serious about trade issues with China.   Your play China.

land_of_the_few's picture

China didn't actually say what this article says. It was a newspaper editorial, not from the government.

That would be like saying WaPo represents Trumps policy towards Russia.

BeansMcGreens's picture

That is true.

That porus border also allows in radioactive dust.

Have been searching South Korean newspapers about all this for a couple of days now, and have yet to find much condemning Trump and the US. They are forcused on 2018 Winter Olympics.

China is not going to go against the US.

Hugh_Jorgan's picture

Meh... I wouldn't go planting flags anywhere. The S Korean newspapers are avoiding ALL talk about conflict because they know that they are parked right next to an extant threat (nuclear or non-nuclear) for which they are #1 on the menu if open war breaks out. If the S Korean papers pumped this story like the West is doing, there would be an ugly panic. You can bet the military is getting ready, but why worry their people until they need to? Obviously China are most concerned about countering of American influence in their back yard. But, you have to ask why they would want to go on record as wanting to preserve the dysfunctional regime in N Korea?

Krungle's picture

But the WaPo represents Deep State policy. Are we to believe that in China newspaper editorials are not similarly dictated by their Deep State apparatus? And is there any evidence of fracturing of government there as there is in the US? We can probably conclude this official state policy. We also have the last time we tried regime change there--China stepped in. And also the fact that China would like to have a reason to take out those THAAD installations. And, oh yeah, China likes the buffer NK provides between them and US forces. They have reasons to intervene.

gunzeon's picture

It's Marxist Media I imagine, like a lot of western countries. The main papers/tv news channels spout points of view acceptable to their governments.

UK - BBC

Oz - ABC

US - Fox ... sorry but the majority don't fit here but hey, who said the US was Marxist

but Finland, Belgium I know of and many more

 

VZ58's picture

Yeah, you can add CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS etc  and CBC,CTV,Global in Canada and ITV,SKY in the UK

Gen. Ripper's picture

All newspapers are tightly controlled by the commie's - so this is right from the slant eyed horses mouth

land_of_the_few's picture

Not really, the Reuters news release this article is based on specifically says the newspaper "the Global Times, which is widely read but does not represent government policy, said in an editorial"

Jim in MN's picture

China often acts like an oversize toddler with new superhero pajamas.  All full of shit and acting tough.

The incentives that have rewarded China for their sponsorship of NK have to change.  Or nothing else will change.

It is that simple. 

For instance, China can replace the Kim regime, or even absorb NK as a new province, OR they can have a total collapse and several million refugees coming to see them at home.

Kind of like......Bizarro Syria (TM).

Should the US military push NK over the edge?  Taking the risk to SK (risk outside the peninsula being negligible)......well you know what they say about omelets.

It's China's fucking fault anyway, no matter what they say.  They can stop it all, today, if they want.

So fuck them. 

general ambivalent's picture

America is the North Korea of the universe.

jeff montanye's picture

well, the globe anyway and of course they are not.  the u.s. is better to its citizens (though less so since 9-11) and far, far worse to the rest of the world.  north korea has killed  a relative handful of foreigners since the korean war more than sixty years ago.  the u.s. has killed millions in that period, many of them in the last fifteen years.

 

Jim in MN's picture

So what?  We could just pack up and leave Eurasia for the Eurasians....personally I'm on the record for that like a hundred times on this site.

 

TuPhat's picture

If only we could.  And then leave the ME to the people that live there, and then leave Europe to the Europeans.  What a great world if the US would stop interfering in everyones business and take care of our own problems.  The deep state won't allow it.  We must keep up the good fight until millions more are dead.

BarkingCat's picture

You are wrong.

One of the risks is that if China fully backs North Korea, there will be only one Korea after it is over. That Korea will be under China's influence and ruled by a fat guy with a Moe haircut.

general ambivalent's picture

lmao. Drumpfsteintards trying to reverse everything.

You can't flip this. Welcome to THE DAY OF THREE SCOOPS! An international holiday to remember the hubris of The Goldman Brotherhood.

You all voted in a Level 99 moron. Wake the fuck up.

BooBooMan's picture

I've come to the conclusion that you're right.

We should have voted for the lying, murdering, criminal bitch instead. She would have sold our asses completely out, but at least we'd be alive to continue living as hopeless serfs in a proper elitest oligarchy.

jeff montanye's picture

that's not clear at all.  hillary clinton is at least as bloodthirsty and reckless as president trump ever has been.  talk's cheap even at the presidential level.  and the playing out of the special counsel probe and the becks' suit against the dnc for the bernie people should be wildly different under president trump than mrs. clinton.

and there's this:

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-abou...  

 

VZ58's picture

Killary would have had you in Syria or Ukraine fighting for Soros, Bezos and rest the rest a long time ago, fool.

BennyBoy's picture

 

Every body calm down.

Nothing is going to happen.

Climax is now, then a slow fade back to Trump and Russia, again.

It's called the fear cycle for bringing eyeballs to advertisers news outlets. Like ZH.

New, improved boogeyman being prepared now for the fall!

runswithscissors's picture

If you like your fat little dictator with a bad haircut...you can keep your fat little dictator with a bad haircut.

dirty fingernails's picture

So Mueller ended his investigation?

jeff montanye's picture

no, don't want him to.  want him to explain why he hasn't examined the dnc servers yet and then take a stab at refuting this:

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-abou...  

unlike with 9-11, this time the truth is going to take a big bite out of bob's butt.

the whole world is watching.