China Warns Trump: "We Will Prevent A North Korea Regime Change"

Tyler Durden's picture

In a troubling repudiation of President Donald Trump’s demands that Beijing do more to rein in its bellicose neighbor, Beijing, through the state-owned media, cautioned the US president on Friday that it would intervene (militarily) on North Korea’s behalf if the US and South Korea launch a preemptive strike to “overthrow the North Korean regime,” according to a statement in the influential state-run newspaper Global Times.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so," it said.

At the same time, the Chinese regime  made it clear that its preferred outcome would be a continuation of the status quo, warning Kim Jong Un that it would "remain neutral if North Korea were to strike first." The article, cited by Rueters,  reiterated calls for a diplomatic solution. However, the possibility of talks between the two sides was looking increasingly remote as both Trump and Kim continued to exchange threats of nuclear annihilation, with Trump clarifying Thursday that his earlier promise to respond with “fire and fury” should the North continue to threaten the US may not have gone far enough.

China - North Korea's most important ally and trading partner -  has reiterated calls for calm during the current crisis. Beijing has expressed frustration with both Pyongyang's repeated nuclear and missile tests and with behavior from South Korea and the United States, such as military drills, that it sees as escalating tensions.

"China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," the Global Times, which is widely read but does not represent government policy, said in an editorial.

Meanwhile, as the North may be planning its next ICBM launch, the US is stepping up military exercises with Japan and South Korea.

“On Thursday, U.S. and Japanese troops began an 18-day live fire exercise on the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido, which was to include rocket artillery drills and involve 3,500 troops. The Northern Viper drills are one of the scheduled exercises that Japan's Self Defense Forces conducts regularly with their U.S. counterparts and are not a response to the latest tensions. South Korean and U.S. troops are also gearing up for an annual joint drill from Aug. 21, called the Ulchi Freedom Guardian, in which up to 30,000 U.S. troops will take part.”

US officials were also discussing coordinated contingency plans on Friday to formulate exactly how the allies would respond to an attack.

“South Korea's national security adviser Chung Eui-yong and his U.S. counterpart H.R. McMaster spoke on the phone for 40 minutes early on Friday, a spokesman for the presidential Blue House in Seoul said. The two discussed responses to North Korean provocations and the security situation on the Korean peninsula, he said.”

Not surprisingly, analysts have compared the standoff between the two nuclear powers (the North is a recent, if untested, member of this club) to a modern day Cuban Missile crisis.  "This situation is beginning to develop into this generation's Cuban Missile crisis moment," ING's chief Asia economist Robert Carnell said in a research note. "While the U.S. president insists on ramping up the war of words, there is a decreasing chance of any diplomatic solution."

Judging by the markets' reaction in the past 48 hours, this troubling reality has finally filtering through to risk assets.

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Dilluminati's picture

We need an import tax on China so we can build missle defense and the Chicoms will pay for it!

Looney's picture

 

China’s official statements are always vague. They are full of words with multiple meanings and cannot be understood without a glass of moonshine, an X-ray, and a prostate exam.

This time, it is very simple – “If North Korea attacks the US, China stays neutral. If the US attacks North Korea, China moves in.”

Looney

Rainman's picture

" The enemy of my enemy is my friend "

    ~ ancient proverb

svayambhu108's picture

Shit is about to really get ugly

svayambhu108's picture

Neutral means no fomer official help, but the border is porous they will help, kim now feels some comfort from behind now, might do reckless things now

847328_3527's picture

The only good that can come of this is gold to $3,000 or more an ounce.

UndergroundPost's picture

If the fat Li'l dictator launches missiles that threaten “American soil” then China will stay neutral? They are out of their mind to think that the US would not strike first if we had intel that a missile capable of reaching the US was nuclearized, ready to launch, and aimed at the US.

Slack Jack's picture

Why doesn't Trump try to fix a problem that will destroy millions more American homes than any nuclear war with North Korea?

So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:

http://preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23

Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.

http://preearth.net/images/temp-anomalies-1880-2017.txt

The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.

http://preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23

TheAntiProgressive's picture

Oh SJ.  Took the global warming pill this morning ehhh, then riddle me an answer to this.  Posted many, many times never seen a coherent response.  The quote is still online/

Here is some truth from the UN IPCC.  It was a quote in Nov. 2010, Ottmar Edenhoffer, one of the co-chairs of the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), said in an interview with German NZZ Online,

“One must say clearly that we redistribute defacto the world’s wealth by climate policy. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy.”

Yeah Otto, no illusion here, we got it.

Many of these themes Global Warming, Climate Change stem from the UNs Agenda 21 program and ICLEI the Agenda 21 non-government (NGO) advocacy arm.  ICLEI is present in cities and towns all over the country.  They promote this radical policy often through the term “sustainability”.  Please google Agenda 21 read pro and con and see if this radical communistic greenie agenda fits into you and your children’s future.  Climate Change advocacy is a cult based on lies demanding subservience.  Just say no, no way.

Yeah and I was wearing a fleece jacket in August on the East Coast cuase it was so "hot".

 

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

He's a paid thread hijacker. Stop responding to him and he won't get paid.

fuckstar's picture

The trolls come out for political bait.

BaBaBouy's picture

WHY is Thump Isolating Himself/US from the Rest of the whirld???

It looks like he's PISSED Off everyone and their Grandmothers and their little sisters Etc Etc...

I don't think this is what his Troops voted for or even expected...

Jim in MN's picture

We should get the fuck out of Eurasia.

But, may as well fix one or two things before we go.  Or....???

Or, leave the problems.  Who cares. Stupid to think the US can fix anything anyway.....

Debatable, sure, that's what we're debating.

Bring 'em all home, one way or the other.

PrayingMantis's picture

... what this war of words is all about ?

... it's all about a ((( Red Shield ))) central bank resistance and this >>> "North Korea is sitting on trillions of dollars of untapped wealth, and its neighbors want in" >>> https://qz.com/1004330/north-korea-is-sitting-on-trillions-of-dollars-on...

...

jeff montanye's picture

that is certainly part of it.  the makework for the mic and powergrab by the neocons and the spooks couldn't be clearer either.  

gorbachev says the beatles ended communism in the ussr.  we could use some of that now.  bluster and bombast make kim jong un stronger.  attack is mass murder on the scale of hitler and stalin.  not what president trump was elected to do.  however this saber rattling is possibly necessary to play for time to eventually turn the tables on the deep state.

the proof is in the pudding.  and as suggested in the post about a common sense way to beat kim, kill him with kindness.  work toward reunification.  south korea would far prefer that, and would pay dearly for it, rather than find out exactly how many times the nork artillerymen can reload in twenty minutes or however long they have between the initiation of a u.s. strike and its destruction of those batteries.

should have bought the slaves instead of fighting the civil war, but then we wouldn't have had all those "heroes".

winged's picture

So, we have a plan to bomb N Korea which did nothing to the US, but have no plan to END THE FED which is destroying America's monetary system and economy. Mm! --------- http://wp.me/p4OZ4v-2GY

Dsyno's picture

Am I the only one that see's that China DID NOT say anything about staying neutral? That quote is coming from some random editorial that said "China should remain neutral".

As quoted in this ZH article: "China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," the Global Times, which is widely read but does not represent government policy, said in an editorial.

Fish Gone Bad's picture

North Korea needs some freedom.

ThirteenthFloor's picture

+ Best comment. War is a racket, privately owned central bank an even BIGGER racket.

TheReplacement's picture

Certainly the goal is not to defeat Kim.  He's much too useful as a barking dog for both China and the USSA. 

aurum4040's picture

We've been working toward reunification for decades, it obviously does not work. Bill Clinton sure was kind to ILL in 94, howd that pan out?

Victor von Doom's picture

If the US truly wanted renunification they would pull out of all support for South Korea. They do not. They want to conquer North Korea so that they can install a Rothschild central bank there and get their greedy mitts on NKs resources.

Crazy Or Not's picture

you get your up vote for that. 
Rare Earth's are the new black gold strike. DPRK's got Clinton/Yugoslavia II potential (where post conflict the mines went to RTZ).
Red Shield geopolitic in play 4 sure. US sub launches 1st strike on Guam with "DPRK missile"?.....it's got potential... X( 

The_Juggernaut's picture

Millions of North Koreans starving to death and China wants to keep them that way for their own benefit.  What a wonderful bunch of people.

jeff montanye's picture

the u.s. is as much or more to blame for the fix of the norks.  we could feed them and buy them all luxury for what we spend threatening them.  cash in the f-35.  it barely works anyway and missiles are better, and give each north korean $40,000 in whatever the norks will let in.  thats more than twenty years annual income there.  and we just piss it away.

five wars started and lost in the last fifteen years.  thanks experts and geniuses, neocons and "civilian soldiers". 

at least try to tempt the seconds in command to become first and negotiate reunification.  offer them something they would like to have; break up the feeling of solidarity against u.s. oppression.  let greed lead, not fear.

it's our strong suit, for now. 

AlphaSeraph's picture

NK is China's ferrel dog on a chain. China is weakened without it's ferrel guard dog ready to push the button.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Yep...  China knows the only way they get invaded is if there is  a 'terrorist uprising' in Xinjiang among the Uighurs, or if America sets up in Pyongyang.   Also the border with Russia, but America at least won't be coming from that direction!

All the things China WANTS to say, but can't yet, they get Kim Jong Un to say. 

Offthebeach's picture

Chinese Public Choice is a rough bid Ness. 

Mr Hankey's picture

Well,lets do the wonderful 'murican thang and bomb the SHIT outta them.

Victor von Doom's picture

What's your solution - nuclear war?

Think I'll side with the Chinese on this one.

TuPhat's picture

This article gives me a clue to Trump's behavior as well as NK and China.  It's all part of the plan to switch world dominance from the US to China.  Trump causes the US to look like we are on the same level of insanity as Kim Jong Un and then China steps in to look like the sane peacemaker who shows the world true leadership.  All part of the NWO plan.

Fish Gone Bad's picture

It's all part of the plan to switch world dominance from the US to China.

No.

The world is run by rich banking families who control the politics and military might of the US.  It seems hard to believe they would relinquish that power to the Chinese.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Who created China?  Who allowed it to rise this far this fast?  Not the same old story of Wall St and City of London?  What would China have done without Nixon opening up China for investment, and then preferred trade partner status, and membership in the WTO?

Not to mention the express shipping of entire FACTORIES over to China, in the 90s and early 2000s.

FixItAgainTony's picture

Additionally, the US purposely transferred cutting-edge communications/IT technology to PRC in the 90s and created lax environments where they knew confidential information would be walked out.

The best theory I could come up with from my vantage point was that the MIC was trying to get China up to speed to avoid the coming "peace dividend" of post-Soviet collapse.

Kayman's picture

The supposed plan was to create a "buffer" between the U.S. and Russia. Now the U.S. has birthed a Chinese Frankenstein just itching to bitchslap it's creator.

veritas semper vinces's picture

 

"

Who created China?  Who allowed it to rise this far this fast?  Not the same old story of Wall St and City of London?  What would China have done without Nixon opening up China for investment, and then preferred trade partner status, and membership in the WTO?

Not to mention the express shipping of entire FACTORIES over to China, in the 90s and early 2000s."

 

Yes.For short term profit.(They) are not such deep thinkers as many think to see the unintended consequences or (they) thought (they) could control them.

The main difference between West and East is the West is aggressive,for short term gratification,predominant YANG and unbalanced.America was created through conquest.Based on pure materialism and ,lets face it,selfishness.Absolutely no spirituality.It had some moral values in the beginning,but those were lost long time ago(if you contest what I'm saying,see same sex marriages and state  sponsored abortions.I am NOT saying that people can not do ,with certain limits,what they want  and consent ,without harming others.But you DO NOT make it a state policy and promote it.).This short term gratification was the base for succes in America and is the base for its downfall.

The East is more passive,thinking of  long term plans,predominant YIN.

Russia is the great balancer of the world,the fact it has so much land mass between West/East says a lot.It has balanced YIN/YANG.

The world of conquest/colonies /raping/pilallage done by the West is coming to an end.Many here might not like what I'm saying,but this doesn't change the facts.

IronForge's picture

Their grip over Key Nation-States are weakening; and their Economic System of Rentier/Predatory Usury is cascading into various sorts of  Resource Cannibalization and Societal Collapse.

Moustache Rides's picture

Almost fell out of my chair reading this.  "It's all part of the plan to switch world dominance from the US to China."  This is also my opinion.  I've been waiting to see when and how they are going to make this transition.  The U.S. has been let go by the elites.  China is the next phase and will be the new "U.S.", so to speak, in terms of world dominance.

This is why our culture is being systematically destroyed with multiculturism.  You cannot have a cohesive culture, or country without a racially homogeneous populous.  This is because each race in a heterogenous society will ALWAYS show preferential consideration for their own. 

SilverRhino's picture

The elites are fucking delusional if they think having the Chinese in charge will keep their skins intact.   

These people INVENTED total warfare 2000 years ago and Chinese imperial politics make Byzantine look like a straight line path.   

NewHugh's picture

It's fuckin better than the last limp 8 years of "This is unacceptabble. There will be consequences"...

oDumbo's picture

Obumble was far too stupid to even understand the nuances and ramifications of the chess board that is asian politics.  Fucking daft idiot has never had a job and has to read everything from a prompter.  If he ad libs, this is what comes out of it's evil muslim mouth... "ahhh, you didn't build that...ahhhh".  

IntTheLight's picture

He's letting everyone's true character shine. Liberals and Meekel pro North Korea. Pro totalitarian.

He did this with Syria and nothing happened. Let him use different tactic. Smoke out our enemies.

IntTheLight's picture

He's letting everyone's true character shine. Liberals and Meekel pro North Korea. Pro totalitarian.

He did this with Syria and nothing happened. Let him use different tactic. Smoke out our enemies.

neutrino3's picture

Hmmmm ... ZH have obviously deep impact as (((they))) decided to install 24/7 trolls de-jure to destruct with the same copy-paste shit on burning articles. Go ZH. Go.

Dsyno's picture

No longer using your "LindseyNarratesWordress" screenname, neut? Damn. How many screenname do you have? I know "flaunt" was another, as well as "flapdoodle".

fattail's picture

okay, but who's paying Brit Bob for reliving the Falklands Island kerfluffle ad nauseum?

land_of_the_few's picture

The penguin guerrillas. And the Limeys in the Bay of Algeciras.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Must be some AI that they trained on some British nationalists, longing for the days of empire, forum!  LOL