Urban Warfare: NATO Issues RFP For Training To Fight In Big Cities With "Dense, Interconnected Populations"

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Throughout the 2016 campaigning cycle, then candidate Trump frequently criticized NATO as “obsolete” and repeatedly knocked allies for not paying their “fair share.”

Then, in a shocking reversal, Trump hosted a joint press conference with NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg, just a few months after moving into the White House, in which he declared: "I said it was obsolete.  It's no longer obsolete."

"The Secretary General and I had a productive discussion about what more NATO could do in the fight against terrorism.  I complained about that a long time ago and they made a change.  And now they do fight terrorism.  I said it was obsolete.  It's no longer obsolete."


Well, it now seems he may have been right in the first instance.  According to a new request for pricing (RFP) from NATO entitled, "Development of NATA Military Operations In Urban Environment Concept," NATO forces are "not sufficiently organized, trained, or equipped to  comprehensively understand and execute precise operations" in modern urban environments.  Here's how NATO defines their problem:

Problem statement: NATO is not sufficiently organized, trained, or equipped to  comprehensively understand and execute precise operations across the maritime, cyberspace, land, air, space dimensions/domains in order to create desired effects in an emergent complex, urban littoral system possessing a dense, interconnected population.


So why the sudden interest in urban warfare?  NATO's RFP conveniently cites urban population statistics from the United Nations as its justification but that's hardly a new trend so it will undoubtedly leave the cynics among us a bit skeptical.

Projections by the United Nations indicate that by the year 2035 the world population will increase to 8.7 billion people, an increase of 1.4 billion people, and that most of this growth will take place in developing countries and in urban areas. Currently 80% of the global population lives on or within 100 km of the coast; this also will likely continue. The SFA1 2013 Report – including 2015 Interim Update Report and the FFAO2 2015 have identified this trend of urbanisation as a potential instability situation for NATO. The world as a whole passed the 50% urban mark seven years ago. Estimates are that five billion people live in cities with two billion of these living in slums. It is also estimated that 1.4 million people worldwide migrate to cities each week. Studies, based upon global demographic trends, suggest that an increasing percentage of armed conflicts will likely be fought in urban surroundings.

But, irrespective of the motivation, one thing is certain...modernizing an "obsolete" international force is going to be expensive.  Perhaps it's time for Trump to write up some new invoices...

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szponiasty's picture

It's obvious that no elections will change anything, as the real, true power is within military-industrial-complex and all the monopolies created by early capitalism corporations, organised around it. Only decentralisation of power could make a difference. But you can't vote that in. People must leave the system en masse on their own. And this is not likely to happen anytime soon (if ever). Capitalism, socialism - same XIX-th century bullshit - won't make any change for better. Besides: why do people wan't to constantly repeat systems, that turned out to be complete failures?

svayambhu108's picture

If they fuck their perfect sheep in Europe and US they will become perfect slaves of the new Asian masters.

BuddyEffed's picture

As far as new urban tactics, go opposite of the alien "Predator," "it's using the trees" as Arnold quips.
Use the sewers instead' they go everywhere and no one else is down there.


Kotzbomber747's picture

Americans are sheep and Trump doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. One moment NATO is obsolete, the next it's not.

Trump is a waffling, bullshitting, flip-flopping idiot, and anyone who believes that he will drain the swamp is incredibly naive. He said repeatedly that he wants to INCREASE military spending, and since the MIC = The Swamp, nothing will change except that the swamp will get a lot more swampier.

However, it's also typically American to believe those 'get super muscular in just 5 minutes per day' infomercials, so the disappointment will be 'yuge' when those rednecks find out that they have been lied to....again.

Troy Ounce's picture


There will be shit if Trump does an Obama

A_Huxley's picture

For weekends over generations they been running around in warm comfy uniforms defending the Fulda Gap.

Good pay and conditions, nice food, a pension.  Pretty medals for been awake and working on a new computer.

With all the changes to what the EU is and its welcome to all policy?

NATO is going to have to reskill for a domestic Stalingrad.  

House to house, door to door in the snow.

esum's picture

That's is where JFK headshot came from...... and then the kid walked or ran .7 mile to the trinity river and escaped...

Lore's picture

History will repeat as long as the same sub-type of humans slithers its way to the top of every organization. It's just a matter of time before the system corrupts, and down we go again. 

We must find a more effective, lasting way to screen for and eliminate psychopaths in positions of power. 

Political Ponerology:  A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes

"If the many managerial positions are assumed by individuals deprived of sufficient abilities to feel and understand the majority of other people, and who also exhibit deficiencies in technical imagination and practical skills - (faculties indispensable for governing economic and political matters) - this then results in an exceptionally serious crisis in all areas, both within the country in question and with regard to international relations. Within, the situation becomes unbearable even for those citizens who were able to feather their nest into a relatively comfortable modus vivendi.  Outside, other societies start to feel the pathological quality of the phenomenon quite distinctly.  Such a state of affairs cannot last long.  One must then be prepared for ever more rapid changes, and also behave with great circumspection." (2nd. ed., p. 140)

Captain Chlamydia's picture

Besides: why do people wan't to constantly repeat systems, that turned out to be complete failures?


Madness. Doing the same thing over and over again, and expect a different result.....

css1971's picture

You are not looking at reality.

Our society today is corporatist not capitalist.


The power they have btw is your need for money. it comes from the demand for the currency. You can easily reduce their power by rejecting their money.

At an individual level, trade it for something of value, pass it on as quickly as you can.

You can get a lump of silver for $20.

quadraspleen's picture

What we have is not “free-market capitalism”

Most ppl wouldn’t recognise free-market capitalism if it hit them squarely in the face. It’s the only true monetary system of exchange that’ll actually work. Shame we’ve never really tried it

szponiasty's picture

That's why I've told "and all the monopolies created by early capitalism corporations, organised around it". Because all the monopolies were created during "real free-market capitalism" era. And capitalism always will end up in monopolisation and corporationism. 

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

The gun 'n drugs free-markets in Lost Angels, ShitCongo, Bulletmore, and Filthydelphia are very successful.

donhuangenaro's picture

lol, someone should tell stupid NATO that a good organized guerilla (people that defend their homes) canot be won... XD

TheReplacement's picture

Yes, kick out the corporations and all will be well.  Just be sure to keep the banks in place because they are totally innocent and have nothing to do with providing the lifeblood of evil corporations and corrupt politicians.

Blacksunday3's picture

and we need to do more with china too. they like gold. we like gold

Hkan's picture

Once we understand we r nothin but animals it gets logical.

Overpopulated species gets corrected by nature. Thats us. Here and now.

This what (i think) deep state plan for.

Nuks on the option agenda is a start. To many nuke freaks gets trigger odds higher.

We are acording to law of nature about to correct ourselves. 

Logical and correct. 

Tellus had enough...of us

Crazy Or Not's picture

Locusts seem pretty successful as a species .... right up to the point where there's no food left.

Blue Steel 309's picture

Myself and thousands of other veterans of Iraq could take down entire battalions of inexperienced troops with just a few hands and some basic munitions. In Urban Warfare.

I helped write the book on COIN.

Crazy Or Not's picture

Can this be similar to the story of the Brit soldiers in Northern Ireland?
30+ years of troops, guard towers, helicopters and all the powers of State...
and they still couldn't hold it....
Franco in Spain did though, he just put artilary on the hills and shelled Barcelona and cut the food off. (today drones/airstrikes)
Seige until capitulation.... brutal and very NOT Geneva Convention. 
I'm guessing you expect it will get Aleppo messy?

CRM114's picture


There are several points about Norn Iron.

Firstly, the proddies were treating the catholics badly, and this took a long time to (mostly) fix.

Secondly, the biggest problem was funding for the IRA, and very little was done about this. The end only started when the US public stopped funding the IRA after 9/11.

Thirdly, there were far too many people being locked up for life for Being Irish, which not only supplies new recruits butalso leaves the real killers on the streets to do it again.

Fourthly, the RoE imposed on the troops, especially the special troops,made serious interdiction of most IRA attacks impossible.

So "All the powers of State" is a misnomer - the politicians were, as they are now, a bunch of spineless idiots.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

It was a planned training operation by the Brits. Every resistance group was infiltrated, or led by British agents.

UmbilicalMosqueSweeper's picture

I wrote the book on the napalm bomb-filler. That fragrance in the morning is awesome!

dogismycopilot's picture

Roger Stone discusses Collusion between Hillary and the Ukrainians


beijing expat's picture

Stone is interesting.

Interesting that we can learn more on Alex Jones than in the NYT

Sky flyer's picture

Watch some of Alex jones live feed in the streets yesterday telling people the markets will be crashed to bring down trump. Pretty interesting video. Most people don't care or won't listen.

White Devil's picture

Bring it, you globalist mutherfuckers!

Sparehead's picture

It's brought, but mainly to Europe. The EU, supposedly created to ensure no more wars in Europe, has pretty much guaranteed another war in Europe.

pluto the dog's picture

Theyre gearing up to be able to fight the muslim newcomers in the european countries - the ones they let in their fucking tens of thousands - the ones who are now flexing their muscles (and their penises) in those same welcoming european countries

White Devil's picture

WRONG! They are gearing up in order to subjugate anyone who tries to defend against the muslim hordes brought in by the zionists. I would've guessed this is obvious, but apparently not to everybody.

Lore's picture

How does Mr. Trump intend to deal with state sponsors of terror?

Is this a new 'Anti-ISIS' for their 'ISIS?'

Who's gonna pay for all this?

css1971's picture

Cheaper solution.

Compulsory military service. Militia. Issue a standard rifle and sidearm to every person.

Switzerland's army is almost as large as the US.

Twee Surgeon's picture

Make packing a side arm compulsory and the problems go away after the 6 month long Darwin filter.

Blanco Diablo's picture

Switzerland's army seems to be working well against the Islamic invasion.

CRM114's picture

Even cheaper solution-don't import muslims.

Also adopted by Switzerland.


JuliaS's picture

Who polices the world policeman?

Twee Surgeon's picture

"Dense interconnected populations". Some truth in that. If you are ever in the UK and someone tells you you're Dense it's not a compliment about your Ab's or Body mass Index rating.

Blanco Diablo's picture

When the coup d'état underway against Trump succeeds, the Deep State plans to use NATO to crush the resistance.

moorewasthebestbond's picture

NATO Hessians couldn't hold an average American town for a month.




quasi_verbatim's picture

Urban littoral system dense with thickos. Could be anywhere, really.

Gab Timov's picture

littoral simulation

BritBob's picture

Germans need to spend more on NATO -

Spending on NATO – Percentage of GDP 2016 - United States, 3.61%. Greece, 2.38%. Britain, 2.21%. Estonia, 2.16%. Poland, 2%. France, 1.78%. Turkey, 1.56%. Norway, 1.54%. Lithuania, 1.49%. Romania, 1.48%. Latvia, 1.45%. Portugal, 1.38%. Bulgaria, 1.35%. Croatia, 1.23%. Albania, 1.21%. Germany, 1.19%. Denmark, 1.17%. Netherlands, 1.17%. (NATO Stats published by CNN 18 July 2016)

Azannoth's picture

LOL their very of own Defence Minister-in is doing more to undermine and destroy the German Army than the Red Army at Stalingrad

Nassim's picture

RFP means Request for Proposal.

Joiningupthedots's picture

Stoltenberg up to his usual war porn psuedo academia again.

The man is a fucling idiot of the first order.


Last of the Middle Class's picture

NATO jizzes in their panties every time they even think about operating on US soil. It's a wet dream they really need to wake up from.

esum's picture


Swamp Yankee's picture

These blue helmets would not last one night in S. Central LA.


Long on sterno.