Return Of The Leakers: Mueller Reportedly Focusing On Don Jr.'s "Intent" During Russia Meeting

Tyler Durden's picture

Looks like the leakers are back from vacation...

After a summer with only a handful of leaked “updates” about Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into purported collusion between the Russian government and Trump campaign, Buzzfeed is back with its first major investigation “scoop” since it published the phony “Russia dossier” late last year.

The digital-media powerhouse is reporting that the Mueller investigation is focusing on Donald Trump Jr.’s intent when he organized the now notorious June 9 2016 meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, citing “sources familiar with the investigation.” Emails released by Don Jr. showed that he assented to the meeting after being told that Veselnitskaya would provide him with damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

Here’s Buzzfeed:

“The source familiar with the investigation said that prosecutors have been trying to determine exactly what information was provided and are scrutinizing Trump Jr.’s statements about the meeting.

 

Requesting or accepting anything of value for a presidential campaign from a foreign national violates federal election law, legal experts told BuzzFeed News.

 

Trump Jr.'s attorney, Alan Futerfas, did not respond to calls or an email requesting comment.”

Prosecutors are reportedly trying to determine Trump Jr.’s “mindset” when he set up the meeting.

“The probe of Trump Jr. would bring the investigation right into the president’s family. Prosecutors investigating Trump’s son, the source said, are focusing specifically on his mindset when he met with the Russian attorney on June 9, and they want to learn details of the information that was offered to Trump Jr.”

As Buzzfeed explains, the entire case could hinge on whether prosecutors can prove that Trump Jr. “willfully” sought an item of value from the Russians.

“The issue for prosecutors isn’t necessarily whether the information that Trump Jr. got was true. Instead, prosecutors want to know what Trump Jr. was thinking when he got it.

 

While it’s unclear which law is at issue, federal law forbids campaign officials from soliciting or accepting “things of value” from foreign nationals. But for the violation to rise to a criminal matter rather than just an administrative one, it has to be a “willful” violation, lawyers explained. So to obtain an indictment against Trump Jr., prosecutors would have to establish that he acted with criminal intent, experts said.”

Luckily for Trump Jr., at least one legal expert who spoke with Buzzfeed said “it’s unclear” from Trump Jr.’s emails whether a crime had been committed.”  

“In order to be prosecuted you would have to be acting willfully,” says Rick Hasen, an election law and campaign finance expert at at University of California, Irvine School of Law. Hasen says it’s unclear from Trump Jr.’s emails whether a crime had been committed, but he said the emails were enough to merit an investigation.

To bring charges against Trump Jr., prosecutors will probably try to show a pattern of behavior throughout the campaign that would suggest Trump Jr. has deliberately sought favors from foreign governments.

“Proving intent and knowledge of the law is difficult, said David A. Vicinanzo, who was the chief prosecutor of a federal campaign finance task force looking at illegal foreign contributions in the 1990s. He’s now the head of the government investigations practice at the law firm Nixon Peabody in Boston.

 

“To prove a willful violation, he said, prosecutors would typically ‘do a deep dive on the background of the person and all the other times they were involved in campaigns, or may have been exposed to the law. If you are someone who has been involved in campaigns, they can show circumstantially that they knew they were doing something wrong.’”

Trump Jr. initially lied to the Times about the agreed-upon purpose of the meeting, something that prosecutors might find significant, because it suggests Trump Jr. knew what he was doing was wrong.

“Trump Jr. initially said in a statement to the New York Times that the meeting with the Russian lawyer was primarily about adoptions and did not mention anything about how the meeting was set up to provide incriminating information about Clinton. Vicinanzo said prosecutors may find that significant: “It sounds like consciousness of guilt which is a form of circumstantial evidence to prove someone’s state of mind.”

 

A lawyer close to the White House disputed that reasoning but acknowledged that “it’s not unreasonable for the special counsel to look into this.”

If the leaks are accurate, we now know that investigators are focusing primarily on two individuals: Former Campaign Manager Paul Manafort, whose house was raided by the FBI last month as investors stepped up scrutiny of his old firm’s dealings with foreign governments, and Trump Jr., the organizer of the Russia meeting.

As we await a response from the president, we wonder: How does he fit into all of this? Despite all the information that’s been leaked by investigators so far, nobody has been willing to talk about the president’s role in the collusion narrative.

Maybe there’s a good reason for that.  
 

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BuddyEffed's picture

Eclipse links with merit, covering the science facts side of eclipses, and their history, and also the classic Pink Floyd videos, song and lyrics from album Dark Side of the Moon, track titled Eclipse. 

 

If you have listened to the Pink Floyd “Eclipse” song (yes you have listened and know it by heart is my guess) then you may find new insights in reviewing these links and be more ready for Monday.

 

Copy and share with friends. 

 

SONG LINKS :

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzy6w_jbNRU Pink Floyd in concert

 

https://youtu.be/g1OOQP1-wOE  — Pink Floyd recording studio insights

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WZtfsfoKSB0 — eclipse from the album

 

Read More: How 'Eclipse' Provided an Epic Finale for Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon' 

 

Concert from 1974, and I wonder if Gallagher might have attended this concert as a sledge’omatic series ends the video : 

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ulXvPLmis

 

SCIENCE FACTS AND HISTORY LINKS :

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_(song)

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oNH3akWXaV8

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tTxz_d2q7Js

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xlr8xlStHyY

 

[Verse: Roger Waters]

All that you touch

And all that you see

All that you taste

All you feel

And all that you love

And all that you hate

All you distrust

All you save

And all that you give

And all that you deal

And all that you buy, beg, borrow, or steal

And all you create

And all you destroy

And all that you do

And all that you say

And all that you eat

And everyone you meet

And all that you slight

And everyone you fight

And all that is now

And all that is gone

And all that's to come

And everything under the sun is in tune

But the sun is eclipsed by the moon

(There is no dark side in the moon really

Matter of fact it's all dark)

 

Bonus link, different concert : 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiYv1dIR4js&app=desktop

BaBaBouy's picture

Brilliant... If they can't Get Shit On The Donald, they will get his Son and that will set off The Donald...

MFL5591's picture

Muller is a fucking joke and everyone is on to him!

The Cooler King's picture

Re-Purpose Bob PISS ON ME to the White House to get to the bottom of the leaker caper.

nmewn's picture

Intent. 

So, don't prosecute actual felonies committed by Hillary, Robert Creamer, Scott Foval, Comey & a myriad of unmaskers as the DoJ/FBI trips and falls all over "intentions"...BUT...they've got to spend millions in fiat & time trying to discern "intent" on Don Jr?

Got it...lol.

BennyBoy's picture

 

Intent. Mindset. Willful.

To prove those Mueller has requested experienced water boarders from the CIA to join his team.

TBT or not TBT's picture

Thoughtcrime.    Orwell was way ahead on what technocratic totalitarian enforcement would look like.  

Keyser's picture

Has anyone else noticed that the leaks from inside the white house have dropped to a trickle since Preibus got the boot? Things that make you go hmmmm.... 

55 men's picture

Focusing on "INTENT " hahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahh...we are in the twilight zone

SoDamnMad's picture

Ms Lynch, Please tell us what was your "intent" when you happened upon the former President at the airport in Arizona"

Aaaaaaa, welll, uaaaa, we talked about grandchildren and stuff......

Ms Lynch, ......

farflungstar's picture

LOL there's no way to discern that. Just like with that kid in Charlottesville. They can never say for sure he intended to run that poor fat girl down.

This must mean Mueller has u gotz

nonclaim's picture

"there's no way to discern that"

Have you seen the "science" on dinosaurs? From a dry bone they divine how the thing behaved.

FringeImaginigs's picture

That wins the stupid prize of the day.  As if dinosaurs he the ability to express willingness.

incharge1976's picture

focusing in on intent aka covering up for Hillary and her intent. 

Anteater's picture

Is a spy intent on stealing state secrets and perjuring a national

election innocent because they found no state secrets?

Is a bank robber intent on robbing a bank and risking the lives of

dozens of people innocent because there was no money in the vault?

Is the home invader intent on robbing your house, who ties

up your wife and children, innocent because there was nothing to steal?

Don Jrs claim, 'we just talked about adoption' only served to highlight

how perverted the Trump royal family have become, a crime family

that built their wealth with former-Soviet mafiya criminals, and who

perpetrated one grotesque fraud after another, Trump Steaks-style.

Twenty years in the hole for treason, and throw away the key.

Ghost of PartysOver's picture

So it has now morphed into the "Thought Police" Special Prosecutor.  Wow, this is getting out of control.  And fast.  Dark clouds, very dark cloud's on the Horizon.  The Empire is beginning to convulse  as it enters the death throes.

scraping_by's picture

The Whitewater investigation morphed from an inquiry into a land deal, and when that didn't show any crimes, into a general forum for the smutty nothings found by the Arkansas Project. Ken Starr hung around until he found a blow job in the Oval Office and then ran with it. Mueller's still looking for his blow job.

TBT or not TBT's picture

Bill had been (and remains) credibly accused of rape and sexual harassment in the workplace..in government service no less by multiple women.   The Presidents behavior towards lower status female employees in the workplace was relevant testimony.  

SDShack's picture

Plus Billy committed perjury during his testimony, and that is essentially why he was disbarred.

Blankenstein's picture

Actually the Ken Starr investigation into the Monica Lewinsky affair was to take the focus off the other investigations.   

 

After nearly two years of searches and subpoenas, the White House said this evening that it had unexpectedly discovered copies of missing documents from Hillary Rodham Clinton's law firm that describe her work for a failing savings and loan association in the 1980's."

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/06/us/elusive-papers-of-law-firm-are-foun...

"The mysterious appearance of the billing records, which had been the specific subject of various investigative subpoenas for two years, sparked intense interest about how they surfaced and where they had been"

 

"But Whitewater investigators believe that the billing records show significant representation. They argue that the records prove that Ms. Clinton was not only directly involved in the representation of Madison, but more specifically, in providing legal work on the fraudulent Castle Grande land deal."

 

"Investigators believe this suggests that, at some point, this copy was passed from Vince Foster to Hillary Clinton for her review.

In addition, investigators had the FBI conduct fingerprint analysis of the billing records. Of significance, the prints of Vince Foster and Hillary Clinton were found."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/docs/recs.html
Blankenstein's picture

How convienient

"Lawyers involved in the Whitewater inquiry said Mr. McDougal's death was a blow to the investigation.For years, Mr. McDougal had denounced the prosecutors and proclaimed his innocence. But after his conviction in 1996 on 18 felony counts stemming from his operation of a corrupt Arkansas savings and loan, he received a lighter prison term in exchange for his cooperation with the Whitewater investigation."
http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/06/07/reviews/mcdougal-obit.html
Keyser's picture

I don't know what you have been smoking, but please share because it must be the good shit... 

corporatewhore's picture

wiping with cloth, destroying cellphones, laptops, etc is NO evidence of intent, especially with a law which doesn't even require intent to be charged and found guilty.

Don Jr. just isn't a member of the club.  Hence, intent is VERY MUCH important, whether it is provable or not.  It's the seriousness of the charges./ sarc

scraping_by's picture

The Don ran on an anti-Washington platform. Usually winners forget all about that once they reach office, or settle for sabotaging public services and assets their backers can privatize. From the way Washington is reacting, it seems like he meant it.

wisehiney's picture

Meanwhile, the train to Grinderswitch is running right on time..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVQEL71mfo

iamerican4's picture

Rockefeller-stooge, BNL and 9/11 criminal/traitor Mueller, a man without Honor, cares not if the Russkies had proven video footage of Hillary - homo Winthrop Rockefeller's Arkansas white-trash pedo homo rapist yard-baby, the Butcher of Waco's beard - putting a bullet into one of the better part of a hundred murdered in her wake.

Covered up Rockefeller's and pederast Kissinger's BNL Scandal and their 9/11 false-flag treason, what's one more bit of High Treason?

lester1's picture

That means Mueller has got NOTHING !!! 

HarryKallahan's picture

You stole my message so allow me to repeat:

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That means Mueller has got NOTHING !!!

 

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scraping_by's picture

What he has is a Grand Jury. Ken Starr threw the land developer's secretary into prison for two years when she refused to recite his lies. Look for some small person to become very important.

Badsamm's picture

Presidential pardon for the win

Thom Paine's picture

That they are focusing on this seems to mean that Meuller has nothing to go on and this is the best that they can do?

Still has nothing to do with collusion with Russia on the election.

The FBI guy left either because there was nothing to do, or Meuller's behaviour made him sick.

So they try to indict Trump junior, manafort on some tenuous bullshit - Trump can simply pardon them, as has happened in the past.

 

This leak seems to be some bullshit just to stir Trump into some error of judgement.

GunnyG's picture

Mueller remains a crooked dirty cop and a tool of Soros, the Clintons, and anyone else who can pay him off.

Fake Trump's picture

If Muller can nail Trump Jr. impeachment is imminent. 

GunnyG's picture

Really? How so? That's like saying that BJ Bubba Clinton could have been impeached for what Hitlery's scummy brother was busy doing. 

Keep dreaming cuz it ain't gonna happen. Better get used to Trump for 8, then Pence for 8, then Ivanka for 8 (second female POTUS- Obama was the first).

Thom Paine's picture

Even for you that is just idiocy.

 

rwmctrofholz's picture

Pffff.  Hardly.  How is Mueller going to make the "intent" claim without also admitting there was no collusion that affected the election.

Move along, Gaylord M. Focker.  

peippe's picture

jr. meets a russian 'lawyer' who wants to talk about adoptions?

jr. was told to hear 'dirt' about hillary & was told other things by a 'confused' russian lady.

you will have to explain how the manipulation of jr. into a nothing burger meeting adds up to anything but 0 (zero).

CrankyCurmudgeon's picture

Can one of you guys please tell me how to sign up with Soros as a paid troll? An extra 50 bucks a week would be very nice and honestly earned.

scraping_by's picture

Internet Presence companies. And it's at least four figures a week, they have the money.

Serious.Lee's picture

Not specifically. From what I've witnessed, however, you can increase your earnings potential with physical makeovers. And you do have choices here.

For example, transitioning to a one-eyed Chinese lesbian dwarf with a giant chip on her shoulder. I envision a lot of money flowing towards this prototype, particularly in media.

Hope that helps.

trillion_dollar_deficit's picture

Requesting or accepting anything of value for a presidential campaign from a foreign national violates federal election law, legal experts told BuzzFeed News.

 

Clearly Trump's biggest mistake was not setting up the "Trump Foundation" prior to running for president. 

 

TBT or not TBT's picture

It's not enforced.   See Obama Campaign donations.   The campaign disabled all checks of credit card holder account information except the CC # itself basically, insuring massive inflows from foreign donors as well as a way around the donation amount limits.    Well documented intentional enabling of crime that received no enforcement scrutiny.   

Thom Paine's picture

The other problem they have is this Russian born woman had also worked for the Democrats in the past as would have been known, and was still allowed into the country.

Her bona fides would seem to have checked out. Just a lawyer legally working in the US.

They would have to draw a lot of long bows to get an indictment and then a conviction.

Trying to and claiming to be able to read a persons mind for intent, especially during an election campaign where you would be having hundreds of communications every day would be impossible. Where you are likely to just meet with anybody and eveybody who wants to know or do something.

It is simply a con by Meuller if this is a true leak, just trying to get at Trump through his family.

 

What I want to see after this is a Special Counsel into the conduct of the Meuller Special Counsel, which can be done.

So Meuller still needs to be careful, he too is subject to perverting the course of justice, obstructing justice, illegal activities such as blackmail and some such.

scraping_by's picture

Meuller's safe and he knows it. Ken Starr burned through millions to find his Oval Office blow job, and rather than ending up doing property transfers in Fresno, went on to a profitable career fucking up universities.

Blacksunday3's picture

all trump has to do is hang in there. if he makes it till nov 2020 he'll win by a landslide. msm talking to themselves and convincing nobody. 

Thom Paine's picture

Trump will not make it to 2020 or be nominated in 2020 if he allows the GOP to remove him.

This is why we are getting all these extreme activities in trying to get Trump - to destroy his supporter base, which if he keeps they cant touch him, lest they destroy themselves.

This is why I say Trump should use Mid Term elections as his leverage now, to make the GOP back him and support him to the full before then. Because after that they wont care too much.

onwisconsinbadger's picture

Don Jr. said my daddy is a bigger Dictator than yours. Loser ! sad !!!!