Trump Unveils New, Dramatic Afghanistan Strategy: "We Aren't Nation-Building Again, We Are Killing Terrorists"

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In a widely anticipated national address, President Donald Trump on Monday announced that he will not pull out U.S. troops from Afghanistan, saying he’s committed to a new strategy aimed at winning the nation’s longest war, now in its 17th year. Admitting that his "original instinct was to pull out" of Afghanistan - Trump's core campaign pledge was to reduce US intervention in offshore conflicts - Trump effectively admitted he had been wrong, and said he’s arrived at three "fundamental conclusions" about America’s core interests in Afghanistan:

  • U.S. "must seek an honorable and enduring outcome" in which American troops "deserve a plan for victory"
  • The consequences of a rapid exit would be "predictable and unacceptable" adding that "a hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists, including ISIS and al Qaeda, would instantly fill, just as happened before September 11"
  • The security threats U.S. faces "are immense"; and "we cannot repeat the mistake in Afghanistan our leaders made in Iraq."

Trump also promised to the soldiers gathered for the speech that "One way or another, these problems will be solved. I am a problem solver. And in the end, we will win."

In other words, Trump is unveiling a dramatic, new offensive in Afghanistan, only instead of giving details on troop deployments, specific dates, or what the definition of victory would be, Trump will keep the details of the new involvement secret, and that "conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables, will guide our strategy from now on."

We will not talk about numbers of troops or our plans for further military activities. Conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables, will guide our strategy from now on. America's enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. I will not say when we are going to attack, but attack we will. Another fundamental pillar of our new strategy is the integration of all instruments of American power, diplomatic, economic, and military, toward a successful outcome. Someday, after an effective military effort, perhaps it will be possible to have a political settlement that includes elements of the Taliban and Afghanistan, but nobody knows if or when that will ever happen. America will continue its support for the Afghan government and the Afghan military as they confront the Taliban in the field.

Trump also defined what a victory in Afghanistan would mean:

Our troops will fight to win. We will fight to win. From now on, victory will have a clear definition — attacking our enemies, obliterating ISIS, crushing al Qaeda, preventing the Taliban from taking over Afghanistan, and stopping mass terror attacks against America before they emerge. We will ask our NATO allies and global partners to support our new strategy, with additional troop and funding increases in line with our own. We are confident they will.

Taking a quick detour into domestic politics, Trump said that "the young men and women we sent to fight our wars abroad deserve to return to a country that is not at war with itself at home. We cannot remain a force for peace in the world if we are not at peace with each other."

However it was all about Afghanistan:

Ultimately, it is up to the people of Afghanistan to take ownership of their future, to govern their society, and to achieve an everlasting peace. We are a partner and a friend, but we will not dictate to the Afghan people how to live or how to govern their own complex society. We are not nation building again. We are killing terrorists.

Well, that and Pakistan, which has now been thrown into the terrorist "melting pot" fray:

The next pillar of our new strategy is to change the approach in how to deal with Pakistan. We can no longer be silent about Pakistan's safe havens for terrorist organizations, the Taliban, and other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond.

 

Pakistan has much to gain from partnering with our effort in Afghanistan. It has much to lose by continuing to harbor criminals and terrorists. In the past, Pakistan has been a valued partner. Our militaries have worked together against common enemies. The Pakistani people have suffered greatly from terrorism and extremism.  We recognize those contributions and those sacrifices, but Pakistan has also sheltered the same organizations that try every single day to kill our people. We have been paying Pakistan billions and billions of dollars, at the same time they are housing the same terrorists that we are fighting. But that will have to change. And that will change immediately.

And, in a surprising twist, Trump also brought in India to the mix:

Another critical part of the South Asia strategy or America is to further develop its strategic partnership with India, the world's largest democracy and a key security and economic harbor of the United States. We appreciate India's important contributions to stability in Afghanistan, but India makes billions of dollars in trade with the United States, and we want them to help us more with Afghanistan, especially in the area of economic assistance and development. We are committed to pursuing our shared objectives for peace and security in South Asia and the broader Indo-Pacific region.

Oddly enough, zero mentions of China, almost as if Trump is telegraphing the new US "axis" in South Asia.

Finally, speaking like a polished cog of a well-greased neo-con/military-industrial wheel - note that Lindsay Graham loved every word of tonight's speech - Trump warned "Terrorists, take heed. America will never let up until you are dealt a lasting defeat. Under my administration, many billions of dollars more is being spent on our military. And this includes vast amounts being spent on our nuclear arsenal and missile defense. In every generation we have faced down evil, and we have always prevailed."

In conclusion, Trump may not be able to get approval from Congress to pass his domestic spending agenda, but at least he is about to spend "billions" to continue a war that started 16 years ago and will surely never end, and make shareholders of defense stocks even richer.

Full transcript below (via NPR):

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President Trump

Thank you very much. Thank you. Please be seated. Vice President Pence, Secretary of State Tillerson, members of the cabinet, General Dunford, Deputy Secretary Shanahan and Colonel Duggan. Most especially, thank you to the men and women of Fort Myer and every member of the United States military at home and abroad. We send our thoughts and prayers to the families of our brave sailors who were injured and lost after a tragic collision at sea as well as to those conducting the search and recovery efforts.

I am here tonight to lay out our path forward in Afghanistan and South Asia. But before I provide the details of our new strategy, I want to say a few words to the service members here with us tonight, to those watching from their posts, and to all Americans listening at home. Since the founding of our republic, our country has produced a special class of heroes whose selflessness, courage, and resolve is unmatched in human history.

American patriots from every generation have given their last breath on the battlefield - for our nation and for our freedom. Through their lives, and though their lives were cut short, in their deeds they achieved total immortality. By following the heroic example of those who fought to preserve our republic, we can find the inspiration our country needs to unify, to heal and to remain one nation under God. The men and women of our military operate as one team, with one shared mission and one shared sense of purpose.

They transcend every line of race, ethnicity, creed and color to serve together and sacrifice together in absolutely perfect cohesion. That is because all service members are brothers and sisters. They are all part of the same family. It’s called the American family. They take the same oath, fight for the same flag and live according to the same law.

They are bound together by common purpose, mutual trust and selfless devotion to our nation and to each other. The soldier understands what we as a nation too often forget, that a wound inflicted upon on a single member of our community is a wound inflicted upon us all. When one part of America hurts, we all hurt.

And when one citizen suffers an injustice, we all suffer together. Loyalty to our nation demands loyalty to one another. Love for America requires love for all of its people. When we open our hearts to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice, no place for bigotry and no tolerance for hate. The young men and women we send to fight our wars abroad deserve to return to a country that is not at war with itself at home. We cannot remain a force for peace in the world if we are not at peace with each other.

As we send our bravest to defeat our enemies overseas, and we will always win, let us find the courage to heal our divisions within. Let us make a simple promise to the men and women we ask to fight in our name, that when they return home from battle, they will find a country that has renewed the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that unite us together as one.

Thanks to the vigilance and skill of the American military, and of our many allies throughout the world, horrors on the scale of September 11, and nobody can ever forget that, have not been repeated on our shores. But we must acknowledge the reality I am here to talk about tonight, that nearly 16 years after September 11 attacks, after the extraordinary sacrifice of blood and treasure, the American people are weary of war without victory.

Nowhere is this more evident than with the war in Afghanistan, the longest war in American history - 17 years. I share the American people's frustration. I also share their frustration over a foreign policy that has spent too much time, energy, money, and most importantly, lives trying to rebuild countries in our own image instead of pursuing our security interests above all other considerations. That is why shortly after my inauguration, I directed Secretary of Defense Mattis and my national security team to undertake a comprehensive review of all strategic options in Afghanistan and South Asia.

My original instinct was to pull out, and historically I like following my instincts. But all my life, I have heard that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the oval office. In other words, when you are president of the United States. So I studied Afghanistan in great detail and from every conceivable angle. After many meetings over many months, we held our final meeting last Friday at Camp David with my cabinet and generals to complete our strategy. I arrived at three fundamental conclusion about America's core interests in Afghanistan.

First, our nation must seek an honorable and enduring outcome worthy of the tremendous sacrifices that have been made, especially the sacrifices of lives. The men and women who serve our nation in combat deserve a plan for victory. They deserve the tools they need and the trust they have earned to fight and to win. Second, the consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable. 9/11, the worst terrorist attack in our history, was planned and directed from Afghanistan because that country by a government that gave comfort and shelter to terrorists. A hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists, including ISIS and al Qaeda, would instantly fill, just as happened before September 11. And as we know, in 2011, America hastily and mistakenly withdrew from Iraq.

As a result, our hard-won gains slipped back into the hands of terrorists enemies. Our soldiers watched as cities they had fought for bled to liberate and won were occupied by a terrorist group called ISIS. The vacuum we created by leaving too soon gave safe haven for ISIS to spread, to grow, recruit and launch attacks. We cannot repeat in Afghanistan the mistake our leaders made in Iraq.

Third and finally, I concluded that the security threats we face in Afghanistan and the broader region are immense. Today, 20 U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organizations are active in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The highest concentration in any region anywhere in the world. For its part, Pakistan often gives safe haven to agents of chaos, violence, and terror. The threat is worse because Pakistan and India are two nuclear-armed states, whose tense relations threat to spiral into conflict, and that could happen.

No one denies that we have inherited a challenging and troubling situation in Afghanistan and South Asia, but we do not have the luxury of going back in time and making different or better decisions.

When I became president, I was given a bad and very complex hand, but I fully knew what I was getting into. Big and intricate problems. But one way or another, these problems will be solved. I am a problem solver. And in the end, we will win. We must address the reality of the world as it exists right now, the threats we face, and the confronting of all of the problems of today, an extremely predictable consequences of a hasty withdrawal. We need look no further than last week's vile, vicious attack in Barcelona to understand that terror groups will stop at nothing to commit the mass murder of innocent men, women, and children.

You saw it for yourself. Horrible. As I outlined in my speech in Saudi Arabia, three months ago, America and our partners are committed to stripping terrorists of their territory, cutting off their funding and exposing the false allure of their evil ideology. Terrorists who slaughter innocent people will find no glory in this life or the next. They are nothing but thugs and criminals and predators, and, that’s right, losers. Working alongside our allies, we will break their will, dry up their recruitment, keep them from crossing our borders, and yes, we will defeat them, and we will defeat them handily. In Afghanistan and Pakistan, America's interests are clear.

We must stop the resurgence of safe havens that enable terrorists to threaten America. And we must prevent nuclear weapons and materials from coming into the hands of terrorists and being used against us or anywhere in the world, for that matter. But to prosecute this war, we will learn from history.

As a result of our comprehensive review, American strategy in Afghanistan and South Asia will change dramatically in the following ways: A core pillar of our new strategy is a shift from a time-based approach to one based on conditions. I’ve said it many times, how counterproductive it is for the United States to announce in advance the dates we intend to begin or end military operations.

We will not talk about numbers of troops or our plans for further military activities. Conditions on the ground, not arbitrary timetables, will guide our strategy from now on. America's enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. I will not say when we are going to attack, but attack we will. Another fundamental pillar of our new strategy is the integration of all instruments of American power, diplomatic, economic, and military, toward a successful outcome. Someday, after an effective military effort, perhaps it will be possible to have a political settlement that includes elements of the Taliban and Afghanistan, but nobody knows if or when that will ever happen. America will continue its support for the Afghan government and the Afghan military as they confront the Taliban in the field.

Ultimately, it is up to the people of Afghanistan to take ownership of their future, to govern their society, and to achieve an everlasting peace. We are a partner and a friend, but we will not dictate to the Afghan people how to live or how to govern their own complex society. We are not nation building again. We are killing terrorists.

The next pillar of our new strategy is to change the approach in how to deal with Pakistan. We can no longer be silent about Pakistan's safe havens for terrorist organizations, the Taliban, and other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond.

Pakistan has much to gain from partnering with our effort in Afghanistan. It has much to lose by continuing to harbor criminals and terrorists. In the past, Pakistan has been a valued partner. Our militaries have worked together against common enemies. The Pakistani people have suffered greatly from terrorism and extremism. We recognize those contributions and those sacrifices, but Pakistan has also sheltered the same organizations that try every single day to kill our people. We have been paying Pakistan billions and billions of dollars, at the same time they are housing the same terrorists that we are fighting. But that will have to change. And that will change immediately. No partnership can survive a country's harboring of militants and terrorists who target U.S. service members and officials. It is time for Pakistan to demonstrate its commitment to civilization, order, and to peace.

Another critical part of the South Asia strategy or America is to further develop its strategic partnership with India, the world's largest democracy and a key security and economic harbor of the United States. We appreciate India's important contributions to stability in Afghanistan, but India makes billions of dollars in trade with the United States, and we want them to help us more with Afghanistan, especially in the area of economic assistance and development. We are committed to pursuing our shared objectives for peace and security in South Asia and the broader Indo-Pacific region.

Finally, my administration will ensure that you, the brave defenders of the American people, will have the necessary tools and rules of engagement to make this strategy work and work effectively and work quickly. I have already lifted restrictions the previous administration placed on our war fighters that prevented the secretary of defense and our commanders in the field from fully and swiftly waging battle against the enemy. Micromanagement from Washington, D.C., does not win battles. They are won in the field drawing upon the judgment and expertise of wartime commanders and frontline soldiers, acting in real time with real authority and with a clear mission to defeat the enemy. That is why we will also expand authority for American armed forces to target the terrorists and criminal networks that sow violence and chaos throughout Afghanistan.

The killers need to know they have nowhere to hide, that no place is beyond the reach of American might and American arms. Retribution will be fast and powerful. As we lift restrictions and expand authorities in the field, we are already seeing dramatic results in the campaign to defeat ISIS, including the liberation of Mosul in Iraq. Since my inauguration, we have achieved record-breaking success in that regard. We will also maximize sanctions and other financial and law enforcement actions against these networks to eliminate their ability to export terror. When America commits its warriors to battle, we must ensure they have every weapon to apply swift, decisive, and overwhelming force.

Our troops will fight to win. We will fight to win. From now on, victory will have a clear definition. — attacking our enemies, obliterating ISIS, crushing al Qaeda, preventing the Taliban from taking over Afghanistan, and stopping mass terror attacks against America before they emerge. We will ask our NATO allies and global partners to support our new strategy, with additional troop and funding increases in line with our own. We are confident they will.

Since taking office, I have made clear that our allies and partners must contribute much more money to our collective defense, and they have done so. In this struggle, the heaviest burden will continue to be borne by the good people of Afghanistan and their courageous armed forces.

As the prime minister of Afghanistan has promised, we are going to participate in economic development to help defray the cost of this war to us. Afghanistan is fighting to defend and secure their country against the same enemies who threaten us. The stronger the Afghan security forces become, the less we will have to do. Afghans will secure and build their own nation and define their own future. We want them to succeed. But we will no longer use American military might to construct democracies in faraway lands or try to rebuild other countries in our own image. Those days are now over. Instead, we will work with allies and partners to protect our shared interests.

We are not asking others to change their way of life but to pursue common goals that allow our children to live better and safer lives. This principled realism will guide our decisions moving forward. Military power alone will not bring peace to Afghanistan or stop the terrorist threat arising in that country.

But strategically-applied force aims to create the conditions for a political process to achieve a lasting peace. America will work with the Afghan government as long as we see determination and progress.

However, our commitment is not unlimited, and our support is not a blank check. The government of Afghanistan must carry their share of the military, political, and economic burden. The American people expect to see real reforms, real progress, and real results.

Our patience is not unlimited. We will keep our eyes wide open. In abiding by the oath I took on January 20, I will remain steadfast in protecting American lives and American interests. In this effort, we will make common cause with any nation that chooses to stand and fight alongside us against this global threat.

Terrorists, take heed. America will never let up until you are dealt a lasting defeat. Under my administration, many billions of dollars more is being spent on our military. And this includes vast amounts being spent on our nuclear arsenal and missile defense. In every generation we have faced down evil, and we have always prevailed.

We prevailed because we know who we are and what we are fighting for. Not far from where we are gathered tonight, hundreds of thousands of America's greatest patriots lay in eternal rest at Arlington national cemetery. There is more courage, sacrifice, and love in those hallowed grounds than in any other spot on the face of this Earth.

Many of those who have fought and died in Afghanistan enlisted in the months after September 11, 2001. They volunteered for a simple reason: they loved America and they were determined to protect her. Now we must secure the cause for which they gave their lives. We must unite to defend America from its enemies abroad. We must restore the bonds of loyalty among our citizens at home, and we must achieve an honorable and enduring outcome worthy of the enormous price that so many have paid.

Our actions and in the months to come, all of them will honor the sacrifice of every fallen hero, every family who lost a loved one, and every wounded warrior who shed their blood in defense of our great nation.

With our resolve, we will ensure that your service and that your families will bring about the defeat of our enemies and the arrival of peace. We will push onward to victory with power in our hearts, courage in our souls and everlasting pride in each and every one of you. Thank you. May God bless our military, and may God bless the United States of America. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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GoldHermit's picture

What your doing Mr. President is driving us much faster towards the financial cliff.

3LockBox's picture

He is no longer in charge.

I was going to do this...now we will do this...

Sad.

svayambhu108's picture

People are still in deny, he was on it like this from the beginning he just took time to shovel it hard into some white asses 

moimeme's picture

"American troops 'deserve a plan for victory'"

After 17 FREAKING years?????

Killing Terrorists? What Terrorists? Only wedding parties getting bombed.

They're ALL the SAME.

http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/potuses-are-all-the-s...

jeff montanye's picture

so true.  we aren't nation building we are nation destroying.  what would you call someone who violently opposes a foreign army occupying her (and your) country?  

a patriot.

we are killing afghanistan's patriots or turning them into quislings.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling

BaBaBouy's picture

What do you all expect when Golden Sacks & MIC run the WH...?

 

This is what we get for electing a former Casino Boss as Prez...

knukles's picture

Proof:  The Russians Hacked the Election

God Emperor's picture

Afghanistan is awfully close to Russia. Not to mention Iran.

And those troops are actually paying for themselves since they cornered the opium poppy production.

As for Trump supporters... more HOPIUM.

 

ACP's picture

I think Trump is blinking "help me" over and over again.

PrayingMantis's picture

... Trumpty Drumpfty sat on his Wall
Trumpty Drumpfty had a great fall ...

...

Son of Thor's picture

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bigkahuna's picture

nice move hillary --  whoops, trump

SickDollar's picture

Someone forgot to tell him that Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires.

History repeats itself indeed

 

Moustache Rides's picture

Lol @ ACP.   On his shirt I think I noticed in Morse code "courage mom"

bidaskspread's picture

I want to know what is going in the Pacific with ships running into Navy vessels several times this year. If a nation is gps spoofing, you might want to think twice before getting onto an airplane.

Mr. Universe's picture

There is going to be a time, real soon, when trusting a computer may mean life or death. Oh, what's that? That time has already come??? Dear me.

fockewulf190's picture

For sure, you don't want to be in an airliner when a CME or an EMP goes off. All these "fly by wire" machines would instantly turn into giant coffins when the computers are knocked out. None of the controls in modern day cockpits are directly linked to any physical cables anymore.

Al Gophilia's picture

Afghanistan is famous for.............. 

The deal maker Trump is swimming in it; I wouldn't be suprised if Trump's making deals...... for Trump. He's at the top of the deal-makers heap. What jolly luck!

Bubba Rum Das's picture

Blah blah blah blah, beating the same old dead horse again after 16 years & one trillion dollars into it; what a fucking fool.

popeye's picture

Interesting that its all about "Americas enemies" not Afghanistans. The interests of the Afghanis seems to be an afterthought. So the US will not be dictating to Afghanistan, but the Afghanis have no say in this fight against "Americas enemies" on THEIR soil.

 

Interesting too that the Taliban are conflated with 9/11 when they had nothing to do with it. Recall that was placed at OBLs feet?

 

And yes, you picked up on the threat of economic warfare - bet the CIA would be pretty piss*d if poppy production was targeted instead of protected. How will they finance their activities AND keep Europe (east and west) supplied with Horse if the Afghanistan operation is shut down? Ah, the challenges of budget management in a fickle world!

 

Trump seems so easily manipulated. I'm guessing stroke his pride and you can twist him any which way. Thats two vain self-absorbed self-deluded presidents in a row - 12 years. Sad indeed.

PT's picture

Dear Mr Trump

Please explain:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=opium+production+afghanistan+graph&cl...

Syria, North Korea, Afghanistan.  The MIC desperately wants to try out it's toys somewhere.

I've forgotten.  How's Trump held up vs Peace Prize Boy and the ones before him?

PT's picture

Re "...we cannot repeat the mistake in Afghanistan our leaders made in Iraq." : 
And so instead we will repeat the mistake the Soviets made in Afghanistan!

Took Red Pill's picture

actually the Soviets were smart enough to pull out after nine years. Oh, and they pay off their debts, too!

https://www.rt.com/business/400489-russia-soviet-debt-payment/?utm_sourc...

I like how he mentions prayer, God, peace along with attacking and killing all in the same speech. Hypocrite! Just like the presidents before him. He’s no different than Obama or Bush. Says whatever to get elected and then is a tool of the MIC and bankers.

Lucretius's picture

I read that stort this A M too. That was probably the most blatant pieces of Russian propaganda I've ever read! Don't get me wrong, I,m actually a pro Russian American citizen. I happen to believe Russian citizens are more free than us, US. Nice thought though, a nation retiring AND forgiving debt, enough to make bankster's heads explode (another nice thought;-D)! What a concept, debt free living. Uncle Scam ought to take notice!

F'kn great, MOAR WOAR! MOAR dopium for the drooling masses. I'm truly glad that I'm old, even though it is painful, there is an end in sight. Pity the young.

BarkingCat's picture

They should be thankful that Russia is not doing to the US what US did to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. 

However, it would be a bit more difficult to get the same results today as technology has advanced by about 35 years.

Now it is much easier to fly at high altitude and rain death out of reach of weaponry that can be carried by a foot soldier. 

There is also lot more satellite and other technology to identify heat signatures, so hiding is much more difficult. 

And Russia probably does not want the people they train and equip to walk over the border and cause problems inside Russia.

The Ram's picture

I feel very sorry for the last of the 'Trump Supporters.'  I think they desperately want to believe that Trump will be the 'Hope and change' they wanted to see.  But we see that he is just the same as Obama and Bush.  Well, if anyone of us who had some hope (I'll admit that I did....Silly me), it's gone now with Trump's speach last night.  Trump will just continue to follow 'the agenda'.  Oh well.  I suppose it is better to have the bubble pop and get on with planning for the eventual collapse.  We don't have to debate the direction for America anymore.

Oh regional Indian's picture

poor india, in the great ziocon vice squeeze....

fucked up world.

fucking long nosed bastards, can't keep their long noses out of anything. 

much as I mourn for what is coming to india as a result of this new alignment courtsey our israeli propped prime monster, the afghanistan, iran, pakistan, Kashmir area is going to be the new Middle East...

and who is going to bell this cat, slay this scheming monster sending everyone else's children into the burning fires of Moloch?

Another regional indian.'s picture

I sent you an email at 66zoltan please read it. Its the last mail from me i promise.

NiggaPleeze's picture

 

"Ultimately, it is up to the people of Afghanistan to take ownership of their future, to govern their society, and to achieve an everlasting peace."

Right, they took ownership of their future, governed society and created peace when the Taliban emerged victorious in the 90s after decades of civil war.  Now youa re a lying POS forcing Globalist values on them.

Do you really think a group of "terrorists" can control large swaths of territory after 17 years of massive imperial aggression?  Obviously they enjoy tremendous public support.  But - the neo-cons don't like their values, and those with values not promoted by the neo-cons, must die.  See #Charlottesville.

Trump is now firmly in the Illuminati grasp.  Whether he's being blackmailed or was a con artist all along is irrelevant.  He is advancing the agenda of Global Dictatorship and wants to eliminate the "terrorists" - read, those who would NEVER agree to be ruled by a global dictatorship.

Qaddafi, the same - he was taken out, too, as he would never have supportd the Global Dictatorship.  Same with Saddam and Assad.

What terrorists are from Afghanistan?  The ones in Europe are all from countries where the US "won"!  No Afghanis were involved in 9/11, mainly our "BFF" Saudi Barbaria.  And their training did not happen in Afghanistan - the critical training (if you believe the 9/11 official nonense) took place at airfields in Florida! and most of the networking in Hamburg!  But, amazingly, those places weren't bombed to the stone age /sarc.  Since, you konw, Florida and Germany are 100% Globalist assets.

Trump, FUCK YOU!

new game's picture

meanwhile, back at "home" some afghan "created" "terrorist"s are plotting a hit in merica or euro.

russia must be laughing their asses off as merica repeats the same fuking mistake.

history does repeat.

it would be like going into the rockies and rooting out life long mountain men.

talk about picking off camo dressed targets from strategic positions with ease.

anybody going over there is cannon foder, body bag ready corpse-to-be fool...

 

Lucretius's picture

TRUTH!

best watch your ass Nigga, speaking truth these days can cause spontaneous Arkancide. Stay cool brutha.

radio man's picture

Tyler said before the election, " new boss same as the old boss ".

LittleGreenMan's picture

There may be a significant difference between Trump's plan and past plans.  He's willing to give the military an objective and then to let them obtain it using their best professional judgement.  If he's told the commanders to get us out of there with the best possible outcome, then it may take a while, but we may have a chance to actually have the best possible outcome - unlike Iraq.  He didn't get us into this mess, and now he is stuck with getting us out without making the situation much worse.

Previous president's were tools of the Deep State so had to make sure they'd be OK with every bomb drop, so they micro-mangaed the wars and telegraphed our plans, so they almost assured failure.  It's one guy against the Deep State.  He needs the support of the very few people who actually understand and believe there is a Deep State.

Gorgeous's picture

"What do you all expect when Golden Sacks run the WH..."?

Answer - a strategy for protecting the $$.

To all the wits who think Trump has gone full NeoCon/ZioGangsta, realize that no country, especially the USA, ever states its true reason for making war.

We certainly are not staying there another 17 years to "kill terrorists".  How imnplausible is it that the US military needs to spend untold more billions to go into the mud huts, rat holes, and goat herds to wack every Tomal, D'alik, and Har-al-fatwaw?

Banon made it clear - China will be the next hegemon if the US allows it.  Trump made it clear - America first, not China.  And how do our interests in Afg intersect?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/china/belt-road-initiative-china-plans-1-tri...

I'm not saying it is right.  Just that the USA uses military means to protect it's financial hegemony under the righteous guise of R2P should be recognized as its standard MO.

 

 

popeye's picture

Dead on. Afghanistan is all about blocking China and threatening Russia.

 

China is already into Pakistan bigly, aiming for YUGE. And their eyes are on Afghani minerals and transit through the country.

 

Look at all key transit points around the globe, and there you find the US armed forces - not by chance. OBOR represents a "threat" (ie: not under US control, not subject to US rent-seeking) as it is invulnerable to naval based power projection. So the US needs troops on the ground in blocking maneuvers.

Gorgeous's picture

"Transit points around the globe."

Yes, the OBOR maneuver is to get around the world's maritime superpower (US).  I have enjoyed reading Diana Johnstone ever since her expose on the Balkan war, Fool's Crusade.  You might check out her thoughts on this subject in, https://www.amazon.com/Queen-Chaos-Misadventures-Hillary-Clinton/dp/0989...

dark pools of soros's picture

oh well..  buy the dips in mining & bombs

PT's picture

Felt like doing some shooting so I was thinking of going on a holiday in Syria. 

You see, in my country, guns are mostly heavily licenced or else banned.
But apparently in Syria you can find whole pallet-loads of weapons just sitting there in the desert ...

strannick's picture

We arent nation building. We aren't fighting terrorists..were mudering Afghanis and sacrificing US soldiers to protect the Bush crime family opium monopoly.

PT's picture

It's the closest you have ever gotten to honesty from a President.  "We're not nation building.  We're killing ..." - if he stopped right there he would have nailed it.

PT's picture

Hint to Trump:

Stop arming them!

EDIT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6wrrjTIgZs

More than just a comedy?  Now it feels like a tiny little clue.

 

How do the medieval-dwellers end up with capacity to hold back modern weaponry?  For 16 years?

HowdyDoody's picture

Fortunately for the US, Afghanistan is land-locked so they do not have a tanker fleet. Think of the damage they could do if they had.

 

EddieLomax's picture

Afghanistan isnt a nation.  A nation is a united country, often of differing races and cultures that share the same allegiance.

The UK is a nation, America is a nation.  Calling Afghanistan a nation is a travesty, it isn't, it is just a collection of warring tribes.

The problem is not to try and kill the bad ones, it is to remove Islam from them and bring them kicking and screaming into the 21st century.  To do that would be a noble thing, I'd start by banning Islam, sterilizing those that do not conform and developing and encouraging a just society where rule of law is paramount.  I don't honestly think America or any other nation today has what it takes to do that, we used to have it, but we cannot even sort out the kebab in our own countries.

Because of that there is only one thing America should be doing, getting out of Afghanistan and sorting itself out, this endless war is just leeching its prosperity away.

Jimmy Jimmereeno's picture

"The consequences of a rapid exit would be "predictable and unacceptable" adding that "a hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists, including ISIS and al Qaeda, would instantly fill, just as happened before September 11"...

The entire statement is filled with unresolveds and contradictions.  Who really, having an approximation of a normal IQ, can accept the above statement with a shred of belief? What does anything in the above have to do with pre-nine11-01?

Here stands the man who was a motivation to the voting sement of the middle-class of the USA prior to the 2016 general election; here stands a man who has sold out his constituency.

jeff montanye's picture

What does anything in the above have to do with pre-nine11-01?

maybe the russians leaving and the mujahideen filling the void, using weapons and cash from the cia?

president trump should negotiate a number of peace treaties with withdrawals and reparations, not least from afghanistan and the korean peninsula.

SixIsNinE's picture

at least Trumpists recognize that - and at least he was of appearance to have put up a small resistance to the globulltyranny....   Obummer's base never admitted (publicly, or did i miss it?) that he sold them out.

the media will rehab him ; he probably saw the fawning articles related to Bush the Younger lately -  just play the game and don't deviate from the script - and you too can survive like Shrub, Tricky Willy and BHO.  

He could have used this time to point out the setup staged false flag evidence we have about Charlottesville   ....  will nobody in the "billionaire" class point this out?

oh,

and the antifa-dimwing is going to be all over him for not including    "gender" in this part of the speech:

They transcend every line of race, ethnicity, creed and color to serve together and sacrifice together in absolutely perfect cohesion. That is because all service members are brothers and sisters. They are all part of the same family. It’s called the American family. They take the same oath, fight for the same flag and live according to the same law.

PT's picture

Re "The consequences of a rapid exit would be "predictable and unacceptable" adding that "a hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists, including ISIS and al Qaeda, would instantly fill ..." :

I put this in the same category as when Obama said, "We're pulling out of Afghanistan but first we'll have a last 30,000 troop surge to ..." - it is the point where you know damn well that the Deep State is back in control and it is business-as-usual for the MIC.

tmosley's picture

Yes, they are all the same. All Muslims are terrorists, whether through action or inaction.

Forced conversion or death is the choice they must face if any non-Muslim is to survive.