"Fear The Majoritarian Mob" - WSJ On The Left's "Great Nazi Scare Of 2017"

Tyler Durden's picture

As we noted previously, "normal Americans are bored by the fake drama" surrounding Charlottesville that has stoked what Kurt Schlichter called the media's 'Nazigasm'... 

"The establishment’s tactic is to paint anyone they dislike as Nazis and any ideas its members oppose as hate speech...The media is running with it...Even after a week, CNN is still quivering and writhing in an earth-shattering Nazigasm."

Taking a break from Twitter and the media for a week to go be with normal people gave me an interesting perspective that I don't get when I'm surrounded by others invested in politics. None of them care.

The exact number of times I heard normal people mention Nazis was zero. No one normal was talking about it, except on the occasional big screen I passed in my travels. No one normal was paying attention to the Wolf Blitzers or the Rachel Maddows. Everyone normal was living their lives, and this fake moral meltdown had no part in them. The fact that the whole thing is so ridiculous doesn't help it gain traction. Donald Trump is a lot of things, but a Nazi is not one of them.

 

And the idea that when there are two sets of idiots facing each other you can't point out that both sets of idiots are idiots just doesn't ring true.

 

Normal people are blessedly free of the little taboos that the establishment seeks to impose, like the one that forbids pointing out that the alt left is just as scummy and slimy as the alt right. The general feeling among normals is “A pox on both your basements.”

But Schlichter is not alone. The Wall Street Journal's Holman Jenkins - who we are sure is now facing heresy charges, bans from Google, and an inbox full of hate-mail - dares to speak up about The Great Nazi Scare of 2017...

Well, that was a bit embarrassing. Antifascist liberals mounted thousand-strong counter-rallies all weekend against a Nazi threat that proved nonexistent or thin on the ground. Leftists imagined themselves to be modern-day versions of the Czech resistance or the Warsaw uprising, but it turns out they were the majoritarian mob shouting down a handful of losers who’ve been an execrable but small part of the American pageant for as long as most of us can remember.

 

We don’t know what speakers at Saturday’s “free speech” rally in Boston might have said. It was organized, according to the local papers, by libertarians protesting campus speech codes, though they opened their platform to anybody, left and right. The meeting ended early; the speakers were all drowned out. Nazis and white supremacists, if any were present, were shown to be vastly outnumbered by Americans who reject such doctrines.

 

To state another obvious point, our civil liberties are meaningless if they don’t protect unpopular views. It’s not the mob but the mob’s targets that need protection.

 

For the record, of the 20th century’s malign ideologies, Nazi ideas of who should be murdered and why strike me as slightly more odious and frightful than Maoist or Stalinist ideas of who should be murdered and why. The applicability to current U.S. events is slender, though.

 

More relevant is the principle that large mobs are more dangerous than small mobs, and likely to harbor more psychopaths. Apparently running out of Nazis to resist, Boston protesters threw rocks and urine-filled bottles at police. Any shortage of white supremacists can always be corrected by expanding the definition. Opponents of a $15 minimum wage are racist. Skeptics about a pending climate crisis are racist. Anyone questioning the utility of pulling down old statues is racist.

 

The slippery slope of civil-rights erosion is manifest every time certain members of the vituperative left open their mouths.

 

Hard to escape is a lesson about incentives: Majoritarian violence is the predominant risk even when its targets are people otherwise impossible to sympathize with.

 

Which brings us back to Charlottesville. Serious professionals in every field know first reports are unreliable. We aren’t counting certain modern-day news sites, of course. Their job is manipulating passing, news-related symbols in ways that pleasure their target audiences. Bandwagons are their profession.

 

For the record, however, Donald Trump’s press conference, in its entirety, is available online and takes 23 minutes to watch. He did not fail to denounce Nazis and racists.

 

An account of events in Charlottesville is also taking shape. Mr. Trump feels he has been treated unfairly. Guess what? That’s politics. Your opponents aren’t required to give you a break. Outsmart them. President Obama would have spoken carefully, starting with: Though we don’t have all the facts, one thing Americans can agree about is that Nazi ideology and racial hatred are offensive to American ideals.

 

Even an Obama Justice Department, though, would be open to the possibility that Americans holding a legally permitted rally were beset by a mob while police failed to keep order, if that’s what the facts eventually showed. From the Washington Post comes an interesting social characterization of today’s young white nationalist idiots—but also a description of how their van was attacked with flying bottles and other objects.

 

According to Charlottesville’s Daily Progress, there were two armed militias, one representing a pro-Constitution group, the other a left-wing group. No shots were fired. They worked together to break up fights. Neither supported the Nazis, and both promptly withdrew when the governor declared an “unlawful assembly.”

 

In a tweet she has been made to regret, the New York Times ’s Sheryl Gay Stolberg reported: “The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.”

 

For its part, the FBI has put out a call for witnesses and video of James Alex Fields Jr. before he got in his car.

 

Messrs. Trump and Obama may have different ideological bents, but no president wants to be consumed by passing political furies. Every president over a longer horizon, we also semi-confidently presume, would have a chief magistrate’s willingness to let the true facts emerge and fill in public perception of events.

 

Many reputations are now tied to a false version of what Donald Trump said, and a version of events in Charlottesville that may or may not survive careful documentation. Do not expect moral courage or any apologies. Mobs are mobs. Nazis whose every thought is reprehensible will still quail in the face of a lawless crowd. CEOs of publicly traded companies are not in the business of being brave. And yet the natural order is holding. Neo-Nazis and white supremacists may be a continuing American embarrassment and eyesore, but they are not today’s most pressing threat to our civil liberties.

As Kurt Schlichter concluded so eloquently, the scars from this farce will last:

The Great Nazi Panic of 2017 will fade away when its sponsors realize that it's not having the effect on the mass of the normal Americans they hoped for. But that doesn't mean it hasn't caused grave damage.

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Thought Processor's picture

 

 

The MSM simply attempting to rebrand Trump as a NAZI (as directed by their owners / employers).

 

Death by association.  It's an intreresting tactic and often effective.  

 

 

Hikikomori's picture

Well, they've failed in rebranding him as a Russian stooge, so they have to try something.

Dormouse's picture

Peak Derangement? Not even close! There's a lot more Stupid to come.

El Vaquero's picture

Peak derangement would be having somebody like Pol Pot in charge.

greenskeeper carl's picture

Yet another author who acts as though socialism hasn't been by far the more harmful ideologies between the two. The amount of people killed by these people pales in comparison to the number killed by nazis. The main difference that I can't see is that socialism is still mass murdering to this day, where nazism had mostly died out.

The author, just like every other main stream author, is too big of a coward to call this fact out. So scared of being called a nazi that he can't stop denouncing those whom the left accused of being nazis long enough to point out the 10s of millions of death over and beyond those of hit let that were caused by the various and still running socialist regimes of the past century. Cowardice at rd finest. Even more so when you realize that Nazi has come to mean 'anyone who disagrees with the far left'.

Sub MOA's picture

In "reallity" NAZI has come to mean anything that anyone does not like ...no other acronym has been attached to other words or causes as the "NAZI" one

femiNAZI ashkeNAZI zioNAZI etc etc you see where it goes everything deemed "negative" by any and all sides is "NAZI"  so  the evil connotation is now just an everyday insult no matter what you believe or what side of the isle you reside on hell even if you take the middle ground you can find some way to be popular and "use "NAZI" to your prercieved advantage ... man the jews really have done a number on the National Socialists huh? 

Well since the acronym is so over used and so convoluted it is loosing it's "luster" and this is scaring the jews ...no boogeyman = no free ride ahh so sad ... so I say keep pushing the "NAZI" thing people just laugh most the time they hear it or ignore it all together tear down the "boogeyman"  70 years of lies are starting to crumble I say it's about fucking time

 

PS for those who are confused it is not about embracing the long since gone NSDAP or it's philosophy (unless it suits you thats fine with me and your choice)  it is however about putting light on the lies that are all to well swallowed for truthes ...if you want to "hate" an entire Nation or it's Ethnicity Don't you think you should have all the facts ... at very least be able to hear both sides of the story... ?

The biggest questions I always put to people who swallow this hollowhoax nonsens is this ...why does it only matter that jews were killed ? Do you have no compassion for the millions of other white civillians that were murdered after being tortured and raped ?   Why are the Germans of today still blamed for of all the worlds "problems"?  Who is a NAZI What is a NAZI where are these people didn't we defeat them and erase them from power in WW2?  ..EVER HEAR OF THE HOLODOMOR????

This whole thing of "NAZI's" goes away with the erasure of the hollowhoax  no more priveledges for the liars and no more "boogeyman" 

 

"One day my spirit will rise from the ashes and the whole world will know that I was right"   AH 1945

froze25's picture

So George Bush Sr, and Jr have a ancestor that was an actual Nazi and tried to over throw the US gov't right before we got into ww2. The general they picked to lead the coupe spilled the beans to congress. Its all a matter of Public Record yet. The Bush / Cheny faction control our foreign policy and have since Bush Sr was VP. So actual Nazis but the Mainstream Media doesn't utter a word of it.

SixIsNinE's picture

please don't revert to giving them legitimatcy :  it's FAKESTREAM

 

shovelhead's picture

Thankfully most libbos are Adderall addicts for their ADHD.

konputa's picture

A nazi, with a staff heavily populated with jews. Not unlike Hitler, I suppose.

Mtnrunnr's picture

How dare the MSM distribute sound bites of Trump speaking. He was sympathizing with the side that demonstrated with Nazis. I mean what the fuck zerohedge? "Oh shit, Trump said something indefensable what do we do?" "Umm make something up and blame reporters". Also, his son did a pretty fucking good job of painting him as a russian stooge. Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify voting for him.

El Vaquero's picture

Trump explicitly named Nazis and White Nationalists, you dumb faggot.  He didn't name Antifa, which has been going around, making broad and sweeping characterizations that are incorrect about its opponents and using that as justification for violence.  The fact that the left won't denounce those wannabe communists is telling.  BTW, they're using very similar tactics to the SA Brownshirts.  The communists are acting more like Nazis than the Nazis.  They should be denounced. 

Sub MOA's picture

The SA "brown shirts" were also disbanded by Hitler and replaced with the SS (not to be confused with the Waffen SS) there were alot of "commies" hiding among the then known SA ... the problem is alot of the "facts" are so convoluted it makes it easy for this "NAZI" BS we are hearing all the time to keep it in the limelight for the heebs to keep the lies alive anyway there are plenty of resources around not only on the internet you would be suprised to see what is available at your local library among those older dusty tomes that no one reads !!  Happy Hunting

El Vaquero's picture

I'm not a fan of any collectivist ideology, Nazism included, but the commies would put me on a purge list.  

Sub MOA's picture

The funny and ironical truth is that every "ideology" is collective ... if you are the only one who believes the "ideology" it only has any meaning or worth to you ...it lives breathes and dies with you ... give that a thought for a minute ...  everyone here has an "ideology" and wants others to adopt it ..is that not "collectivist" ?    :)

 

Lets face it it is not about collectivism you cannot escape human nature of wanting to be part of the group no matter what group you choose ...what it is about is which group do the majority put their faith beliefs and lives in.

 

Realism is a bitch sometimes LOL don't shoot the messenger I'm just pointing out the shit everyone tries to skirt around !

There will always be a "need" and a call for a "leader"  this whoe forum exists in favor or disproval of the current leader(s)

El Vaquero's picture

By collectivist, I mean that your rights are expected to be subservient to the state, vs the protection and honoring of the rights of the individual.  With communism or fascism, there is no right to opt out.  I want the right to opt out - which gets into freedom of association.  

not dead yet's picture

Hitler disbanded the out of control SA because they were no longer needed and were becoming an embarassment to the party and his government. Hitler also believed Rohm, the head of the SA, was out to overthrow him and take power. Thus the midnight raid known as the Night of the Long Knives to kill Rohm and his top commanders as well as others who were a danger to Hitlers power.

Mtnrunnr's picture

After two days of bullshit, then he went back on his comments. Fuck you. If your daughter wqs run over by a fucking car by man who turned out to be a nazi and the judge said it was okay because there was voilence on both sides you'd be pretty fucking pissed.

El Vaquero's picture

The driver was a schizophrenic.  

 

James Alex Fields Jr. also confided that he had been diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was younger and had been prescribed an anti-psychotic medication, Derek Weimer said in an interview with The Associated Press.

http://time.com/4898983/charlottesville-car-james-fields-nazism/

But I guess that doesn't matter.  And Trump didn't go back.  He just didn't say what you wanted to hear.  He condemned all sides, and guess what?  When I see Nazis vs Commies, I condemn both sides too.  Both sides are collectivists.  Commies are fucking evil.  You suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.  

Mtnrunnr's picture

All I hear from you and people like you on these threads are mitigating factors justifying the act. You don't care that people died, just look for ways to justify your position. When a leftist kills someone Bernie Sanders did the murdering. When a right wing maniac kills people, Schizophrenia is the problem. No. It's the underlying idealogy of hate that he held that drove him to kill that woman. Keep apologizing for it though, if it makes you feel better. Btw trump is willing to sign a bill that removes treatment for mental health.

El Vaquero's picture

I'm not justifying it, you fucking moron.  I'm pointing out that blaming it on the others who were there is fucking retarded.  If you've ever watched a schizophrenic laugh at the jokes being told by the voices in his head like I have, you know that it is a disease that specializes in gaslighting the people who have it.  And if you think we blame Bernie for Scalise getting shot, you are beyond delusional.  You are projecting your own delusional insecurities onto us. Call out your own goddamned communist agitators and police your own, and then maybe people will start having more sympathy.  As it stands, you're a bunch of whiny motherfuckers who are pushing people further to the right.  It's called reactionary politics for a goddamned reason.  

Mtnrunnr's picture

Jesus christ, go read the article on this website proclaiming that Sanders was responsible for the shooting, 20 minutes after the car attack ZH posted an article stating that 'the narrative was wrong' regarding the charlottesville incident. You live in this faux world with your own faux 'facts' where there are no consequences for your beliefs and actions. Guess what: right wing radicalism was responsible for bringing him out. It was responsible for creating an environment where he could voice his insanity and be pushed over the edge. When a leftist breaks and kills someone you blame the entire group, when a nazi does it somehow it's just him and mental health issues finally fucking matter. But they don't matter for long enough for anyone to do anything anout it, but jusssst long enough for you to justify your bullshit so you can sleep at night.

BrownCoat's picture

@Mtnrunnr,

George Zimmerman's 911 call was doctored. The MSM likes to selectively edit. I guess you haven't figrued that out yet.  MSM like gullible people like you. So remember to watch their advertising too!

Mtnrunnr's picture

Nazi's are unequivocally bad. If you can't see that you literally deserve to die.

shovelhead's picture

They're ironically impaired.

Which is good because they self illustrate their fascism. You almost don't have to laugh at their hypocrisy, they do it for you.

oDumbo's picture

Communism and socialism are unequivocally bad, if you can't see that, do you literally deserve to die?

null's picture

To be killed, no.
To "die" from not getting a Capitalist Handout when the commies fail? Hmmm ...

null's picture

Nothing is truly unequivocal. It's a figure of speech to mean that the Speaker is not equivocating.

rockface's picture

So are Socialists of all stripes.

Mtnrunnr's picture

People who's idealogy literally was to kill millions of people unlike them is bad and adopting it makes you worthy of death. Socalist policy does not directly lead to the deaths of anyone, only when it is weilded poorly. You, sir, are trying to equate two entirely different points to make yourself feel better. You are literally defending nazism by saying it is 'as bad' as something else. You so easily forget the millions that were killed. Americans fought and died to rid the earth of people like you.

Sub MOA's picture

"Socalist policy does not directly lead to the deaths of anyone, only when it is weilded poorly." 

 

ROFLMAO you are the epitome of stupid ... the goal of socialism is slavery and when the slaves don't fall into line they get bludgeoned and then massacred ....  when socialism is "weilded poorly"  is what we have now in most governments the slaves are currently only being "bludgeoned"  thru enforced gov mandates legislatures and the ever popular rule of law combined with TAXATION out the ass... 

 

go back to your dormroom accept your debts and shut up LOL

opport.knocks's picture

Sorry to burst the bubble, but the real world disagrees with you. Here is a list of the 10 most socialistic nations in the world today:
- China
- Denmark
- Finland
- Netherlands
- Canada
- Sweden
- Norway
- Ireland
- New Zealand
- Belgium

Only one of those countries can be considered repressive in any sense of the word. 

WernerHeisenberg's picture

So you know about New Zealand?  Repressive in every sense of the word if one is unfortunate enough to need government permission to earn a living.  Which is almost everyone who works.  Hint, even mowing other people's lawns requires a "qualification", and you need another permit if you want to use a ride on lawnmower.  Then one has to requalify periodically in many cases.  The government is now mulling options to make senior doctors requalify (at great time investment and expense) threatening to cause a severe doctor shortage sooner rather than later.

The only people who are really happy here are:

Landlords/Property Developers/Bankers

Government officials

People on benefits (welfare)

StaySunny3000's picture

This "Nazigasm," as Schlicter so nicely framed it, popped up just as the Russian collusion story has lost all traction; the timing was impeccable.  Seen any Russian stories lately?  

rejected's picture

I guess,,, if you don't sign up for Breitbart's BS the videos don't work,,, which is fine. Considering they're the assholes that was the big player in ruining any chance decent conservatives will ever have getting elected by getting Flipper Don in office.

bamawatson's picture

please list the DECENT conservatives among the 2016 repukelican presidential candidates

Creepy_Azz_Crackaah's picture

LOL! Perfect. He was probably transitioning to transgender anyway. This helped him out.

Ghost of PartysOver's picture

That video was historical.  What an awesome shot by the riot control guys.  Seriously, hitting a quarter inch target with a tear gas ball! 

ReturnOfDaMac's picture

And here I was, saying cops can't shoot!

pods's picture

That was fucking hilarious!  There goes today's productivity. Just gonna watch him crumple in a heap over and over again. :)

"Down goes Frazier, down goes Frazier."

pods

Moving and Grooving's picture

No, it's you. Everyone thinks you're a loser.

cheech_wizard's picture

I saw that video this morning. Priceless.

 

shovelhead's picture

That's even better than the dog balancing a fidget spinner on his nose.

A feel good video can make your whole day.

bunkers's picture

"Mobs are mobs". At some point, I hope thinking people, everywhere, become mobs.

CRM114's picture

You do not beat a mob by confronting it. You stand to one side, let it pass, then pick them off from the rear.

VladLenin's picture

You deal with leftist mobs the old fashion way...