Trump Warns Of Debt Ceiling "Mess"; Blames McConnell, Ryan

Tyler Durden's picture

Conveniently coming just as warned that according to the T-Bill market, the odds of a government shutdown are now the highest they have been this cycle, moments ago Trump tweeted what appears to be a warning that the debt-ceiling process is setting up for failure, saying he had requested that Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan tie the debt ceiling legislation into the V.A. Bill (which passed), adding that they did not do it, and as a result we "now have a big deal with Dems holding them up (as usual) on Debt Ceiling approval. Could have been so easy-now a mess!"

The implication: the fingerpointing has begun over what even Trump now admits will be a debt-ceiling "mess" has begun, as has the scapegoating, and in Trump's view the blame will, or should, ultimately fall on Congressional Republican leadership in the face of McConnell and Ryan. While it is unlikely that Trump's latest escalation will accelerate a compromise, it virtually guarantees that the feud between the republican controlled Congress and the President will escalate further, effectively making either a debt-ceiling or government shutdown crisis increasingly likely.

Meanwhile, the stock market continues to blissfully ignore what the bond market is saying, which as we showed moments ago, has pushed the implied odds of a shutdown to the highest yet.


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serotonindumptruck's picture

So does this mean that CTRL+P doesn't work anymore?

HopefulCynical's picture

Trump is not backing off one bit. The Phoenix rally/speech wasn't a fluke or a diversion.

Good. It's about time someone took a flamethrower to the Swamp - and not one made from a damned spray paint can, either.

HopefulCynical's picture

I saw someone here, several months ago, speak disparagingly of the ZHers who think they are going to "load the F-150 with Pabst and silver coins, and go skeet shooting negroes in a target rich environment." I still think  that characterization is funny as fuck - and absolutely true, for more than a few of the folks here, whether they're serious or just LARPing Soros trolls.

This machine has a lot of moving parts. "We don't need no water..." is fine for those of you who think you've got it all figured out, but what about for the folks who do not want the government to be doing what it's doing but have no earthly idea how to stop it, either? Should they just "burn, motherfucker, burn" because YOU GOTS YERS?

skbull44's picture

The political class has perfected the art of blaming anyone but themselves...

SethPoor's picture

.... children do it instinctively; no skill, no "art" involved.

shovelhead's picture

The President doesn't write legislation in spite of what the ignorati may claim.

ejmoosa's picture

There's no incentive for Congress to do anything.  There's been no price paid for inaction.  Only when the voters boot their asses to the curb(McConnell, McCain, Ryan, and others) will the message begin to sink in.

1/3 of the Senate is up for reelection next year.  Can we replace them all?  Are you willing to vote against your incumbents regardless of their party?

If not, YOU are part of the problem as well.

lew1024's picture

Time to fund opponents in the primary, the more authentic the better.

No more smooth lawyers, no more politicians trained from prosecutor through state legislator. Real people. They can win over incumbents, but not the smoothies.


TheLastTrump's picture

Included are the leftist shills that clearly cannot see one side of the story, but only repeat things they've heard from hyper biased sources.


If you're spouting media narratives concerning Trump you've been captured by the DEEP SWAMP.

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Trump Warns Of Debt Ceiling "Mess"; Blames McConnell, Ryan

My response: Placing BLAME where BLAME belongs.



In addition, lack of inaction on HEALTHCARE has created a NIGHTMARE SCENARIO of EPIC PROPORTIONS!!! Current US HEALTHCARE situation is BLEEDING America DRY everyday!



May America R.I.P.

Nobody For President's picture

Just his style, which is not very stylish....

You will never get him off the damn caps locik key

quadraspleen's picture

everywhere there's a winner, there's a loser..just the way it someone a free pass because "they have no earthly idea how to stop it" won't help them, and it also doesn't prevent someone with an ounce of common sense to start preparing for some shit to go down, does it?

Just standing around going "what do I do?" was never a winning strategy..They need to stop pretending it'll all be ok, and go and do some critical thinking. And if they don't know what to do by now, even a little bit, after reading ZH for a few months, they never will ;-) (clue: it involves drinking shite beer and shooting things)

HopefulCynical's picture

Yes, but the folks I'm talking about don't read ZH. In a functional world, they wouldn't have to in order to survive decently.

Those folks deserve a government that works for them too, so long as it does it without making beasts of burden out of those of us who choose to try harder, in the process. For now, I do believe Trump sees it that way too. Aunt Hettie just wants to knit sweaters for the kids, and Uncle Tim is happy working as an electrician. They don't want to spend their days obsessing over LIBOR, spot prices and backwardation. Why should they have to, simply because the government is infested with conniving parasitic scumbags?

jimmy12345's picture

There isn't always a winner and loser and that perspective if a very standard way.  If you have studied economics at all you will know that economics is not a zero sum game.   The Alt-Right has the mistaken idea that they can only get more stuff by taking it from other groups. 

HalinCA's picture

Years ago it occured to me that unless I went along with the 'investing herd' there was no way I could ever retire confortably on my meager savings and work related pensions.  That's the evil horror of inflation.  ANY INFLATION AT ALL.

Buit the thought of feeding parasites who got a cut regardless of the performace of the investment made me sick.  I really hate parasites.

So I resigned myself to working until I die.  No regrets.

A people who are forced into investing/speculating, instead of just savings, to have a decent retirement are just another type of slave. 

The banksters/money changers/'investment advisors' get their cut win lose or draw. 

They all need to be 're-educated' the way that Mao and the Cambodians ran the camps ...  the world would be a better place without them and people who aspire to be like them. 

Wrenching Away's picture

That is some funny shit right there. Being in a blue collar industry myself, I know a couple of guys who say they can't wait for the "liberals" to come riot in their neighborhood so they can pick them off. Whether they are really ready to start killing darkies, or just talking big, who knows.

FreeShitter's picture

Too early in the a.m for that kind of critical thinking.

TheLastTrump's picture

You people are so fucking dense you can't see what's right in front of your face.


It's because you're out to flatter your egos.



thinkmoretalkless's picture

Well it doesn't look like Ron Paul is going to be elected anytime soon, so you play the cards you have. Avoided the unlucky queen, got a wild card.

Honey-Badger's picture

Yeah never blame the Federal Reserve or the trillions missing/spent from the Pentagram on needless wars because that would actually make sense.

lil dirtball's picture

In other news - with all the global turmoil, the stock markets have been producing lower highs and AU/AG haven't really moved ... for weeks.

Banana Republican's picture

It's all theatrics. There's never any "shutdown".

You'll know it's shut-down when there are tumbleweeds blowing down Pennsylvania Avenue and Mitch McConnell is selling appliances at a Best Buy in Louisville. Don't hold your breath.

TheLastTrump's picture

Actually there are consequences to a shutdown, there were last time.

urhotdogs's picture

What consequences?  Govt shuts down for weekends and holidays and we do fine.  It's better if they are closed.  Best thing to do is layoff at least 50 percent anyway

ejmoosa's picture

Yes, the common folk are the ones that get the shaft...

JRobby's picture

Followed by last night's speech at the American Legion's national convention in Reno as he signed the new VA bill into law.

Chipping away. Chipping away. Calling his base to action. Fuck you Don Lemon you tool box.

HopefulCynical's picture

Exactly. He tried dynamite when he first took office; that didn't work. Now he's picked up a chisel. It's looking more and more like he's not backing down, and he isn't going to let not being able to do everything he wants to do, keep him from doing what he can.

If Trump really were the Swamp, then the corporate media, Soros etc. wouldn't be continuing to go after him like it has. You wouldn't have Yertle making hometown speeches about how Trump has unrealistic expectations, when that old coot has to KNOW that he's on record as having promised to have a repeal/replace bill on Trump's desk first thing after inauguration.

The Swamp is shitting itself in panic right now, because Trump is not going to stop unless they physically stop him - and so far, they can't.

That Phoenix speech might as well have consisted of Trump simply walking out and saying, "I have a message for the Swamp. Eat a bag of dicks, you parasites. You're going down. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Good night."

MK13's picture

The problem is people like McConell and Ryan - and there are points of light like Rand Paul. So vote out units of uniparty within GOP. Put kid rock in there, that ought to be entertaining.

And if you ever doubt the alternatives, think of Kamala 'I'm a commie' Harris or Oprah 'white people need to die' Wimphrey in the White House.

HopefulCynical's picture

I totally support Kid Rock for Senate. He's far from stupid, and I'll bet he'd catch on very quickly.

And yes, we've had more that enough racist Marxist African folks in the WH for at least the next century. I'd be fine with someone like Allen West; I've read The Bell Curve but I also judge individuals as individuals. But almost all blacks in the public eye are rotten to their cores with Cultural Marxism.

shimmy's picture

Yeah, he's just torching that swamp by surrounding himself with war mongers and squid creatures and dumbocrats and increasing troops in Afghanistan and all the other shit that is just like the last zillion admins. 

You trumptards are bloody insane. Can I go visit your alternate universe you all must be living in? 

LawsofPhysics's picture

For some people it is working quite well.  Bankers and financiers are still giving themselves trillions at 0.75% interest...

"Full Faith and Credit"

yomutti2's picture

Note to moron presidents: Don't alienate congress. They are likely to be voting on your impeachemnt and conviction soon.

JRobby's picture

CONgress alienated themselves by selling out to corporate and alien (non - American) interests.

You can't control what people choose to do. You can expose them and their crimes.

LawsofPhysics's picture

Still think CONgress speaks for the people they claim to represent? You are one stupid fuck.

CONgress was bought long ago with FREE money printed by the Federal Reserve Bank!!!!!

This is THE problem you dumb fuck.

"Full Faith and Credit"

tick tock motherfucker.

TheLastTrump's picture

Note to moron posters like you- Congress is the problem, and we sent Donald Trump there to straighten them out.


You're on one side or the other and it's obvious you've made your ill considered choice. So be it, fuck off.

Honey-Badger's picture

With us our against us?

Where have I heard that before....this corrupt shitpile is beyond repair what if I choose to abandond it does that make me your enemy?

j0nx's picture

It's evident to anyone with a brain that Ryan and McConnell are doing whatever they can to suck off dems and stall trumps agenda. Why are these guys still in leadership roles and not switching sides like the wva governor? They are already dems in all but name anyway so just go ahead and make it legit. The freedom caucus should already be maneuvering to take these two shitstains out like they did with cantor and boner. Remove about 5 or 6 of these pieces of shit that stall and stymie the conservative agenda and the other 5 or 6 of them that remain might fall in line.

MK13's picture

It's even worse than that.

If you think about it, 'conservative' like Theresa may has done everything to make sure Brexit doesn't happen - including trying to lose an election.

RINO GOPers are making Trump doesn't succeed - including losing midterms in 2018.

shovelhead's picture

Don't believe it. All they're doing is moving the middle over to Trumps side.

This Antifa horseshit is a blessing to the Trump Party. RINO's are going to be RINO's but the people who put and keep them there are getting tired of this constant assault on the President whether they voted for him or not.

CNN is only preaching to the choir these days. Even the casual political observer can see right through the smokescreen.

LawsofPhysics's picture

Fuck healthcare (especially in a land of fat lazy fucks), you can't fight entropy. Keep it simple you stupid fucks and balance the damn budget!!!

buzzsaw99's picture

as long as you have someone to blame just let it burn.

seriously.  let.  it.  burn.

VinceFostersGhost's picture



McConnell, Ryan  <---- WORTHLESS BASTARDS!!!

conraddobler's picture

While I agree it's a study in how evil can corner itself.

It's so focused on Trump it's missing the bigger picture. In the name of getting Trump they are about to implode the very thing that empowers them.

Trump knows they are cornered.

No amount of pressure is going to change that they are in fact funded by that which they are threatening him with cutting off.

Blaming him will do them ZERO good once it goes up in smoke as they will never get it back after it's gone.

TheLastTrump's picture

Treachery towards those who voted them into office. Say one thing and do another. Hand in hand with Democrats & Obama for the last 8 years.

Seasmoke's picture

Because those two motherfuckers are democrats. 

HopefulCynical's picture

Democrat = RINO/GOPe = Swamp-rat.