Professor Explains Why We Can't Pre-emptively Strike North Korea: "North Would Turn South Into A Desert"

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Authored by Mac Slavo via SHTFplan.com,

Following North Korea’s recent missile test, which ominously flew over Japan, the specter of war with the hotheaded nation was raised once again.

As time goes on, it seems less and less likely that the Kim regime will back down from its nuclear program. All forms of diplomacy and appeasement have failed, and not even threats of war from the US seem to have an effect on the regime.

There’s a very good reason for that. North Korea knows something that the United States, the most powerful nation on the planet, would absolutely hate to admit. Our country is is no position to engage in a preemptive strike on north Korea, because any attack would result in unimaginable devastation. The days when Americans would tolerate massive war casualties over a short period of time are long gone, and North Korea knows it. There simply isn’t anything we can offer or threaten that will stop their nuclear program.

And that’s understandable once you know how much destruction North Korea could really bring about if the Kim regime ever decided to let its military loose on South Korea.

If the current situation in East Asia is not resolved, a number of countries “will be living under a threat of a nuclear volcano erupting,” Russian diplomat and an expert in Asian studies, professor Georgy Toloraya told RT.com.

 

Everyone understands perfectly well that for North Korea, if it initiates an aggressive strike, a military conflict will mean a complete and immediate destruction, because no one can deny the US military might,” Toloraya said.

 

“However, for the US, attempts to solve this problem militarily also bring on a retaliatory strike by North Korea that would turn South Korea into a desert,” he warned, saying the North doesn’t even need nuclear weapons for that.

 

While Pyongyang’s artillery is able to reach Seoul, the entire territory of South Korea will also “be no good for life,” as Pyongyang’s missiles – even without nuclear warheads – might hit nuclear facilities in the South, he explained. He said there are some 30 such sites close to North Korea’s border.

Obviously, the destruction of nuclear facilities could have more of an impact than any other attack, by causing widespread radiation leaks. If anything, it could be more devastating than dropping a nuclear weapon, since the radioactive materials in these facilities often have a significantly longer half-life than what we see in atomic bombs.

It’s threats like that which make it clear that no military option is capable of reigning in North Korea. That’s a sentiment that former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon expressed earlier this month.

Contrary to Trump’s threat of fire and fury, Bannon said: “There’s no military solution [to North Korea’s nuclear threats], forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that ten million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”

And let’s not forget that North Korea has one of the largest chemical weapon stockpiles in the world, and is suspected of maintaining a bio-weapons program since the 1960’s. Given those possibilities, Bannon’s belief that North Korea could kill ten million people may be a gross understatement, and that doesn’t even consider the chances that war with North Korea could trigger another world war.

It’s time to accept the truth. We can bargain with the Kim regime, appease it, threaten it, and lay down sanctions on it, but nothing will actually stop that government from continuing its nuclear program without causing mass casualties. The only thing we can do is try to keep a lid on that country until their citizens rebel, or until the Chinese decide that they’ve had enough with their ally.

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HRH Feant2's picture

Mass casualties happen. Not my problem. When your country is ruled by a sadistic brat the reality is people die. Better for people to die there than wait and have the west coast nuked.

wee-weed up's picture

 

 

What might happen to SK is NOT an acceptable reason...

For not attacking...

As Little Kimmie will eventually...

Be able to "turn into a desert"...

Japan...

Philippines...

Guam...

Hawaii...

And then the West coast of America...

The time to draw the line is NOW!

This little shit is beyond crazy!

The consequences will only get worse as time goes on...

Do it now Trump! And fuck the ChiComs!

AGuy's picture

"This little shit is beyond crazy! The time to draw the line is NOW!"

Your crazy. Kim isn't going to do anything accept to launch missiles into the sea. Kim wants to stay in power and knows that an attack will end it.

Kim is also a puppet of China. Everytime Trump talks tarrifs suddenly Kim starts launching. This observation seems to allude Trump and the Pentagon.

Mango327's picture

How the fuck is anyone, anywhere, going to turn a coastal peninsula that gets annual typhoons rammed up its ass, into a "desert"? I don't care what kind of guns Kim has, this professor doesn't know the meaning of words and thus deserves no points. Disqualified!

NoDebt's picture

But, Mango, he's a PROFESSOR.  How can you argue with credentials like that?

 

NoDebt's picture

Will the warranty on my Samsung Galaxy S8 still honored after armageddon?  I only ask because I sort of spent a lot of money on this thing and I want to make sure I'll be covered if the screen cracks or something.

 

Inzidious's picture

Well from what I understand middle attacks do profduce a lot of glass... So.... Yes?

DetectiveStern's picture

It will probably burst into flames upon the motherlands destruction.

giovanni_f's picture

at some point SK and NK will reunite with significant Chinese, Japanese and Russian involvement - but definitely not as the usual shit show run by some masonic satanists out of the US.

bluez's picture

The bloodpox is somewhat like a hybrid of ebola and smallpox. It spreads through the air much more quickly than any flu, and is very resistant to antiseptic agents. The symptoms are about the same as those of ebola, and it is 100% fatal. There is no effective treatment.

Itinerant's picture

There is something that the USA can offer, quite a few things. Follow the Russian/Chinese plan, which would mean you now have China, Russia, USA, and Japan on board.

  1. Stop military exercises and rhetoric about decapitations, mock nuclear runs, pre-emptive strikes, etc. This is literally the same as Kim is saying: The missiles are a reponse to threatening exercises. In response, NK must let up on further tests and developments.
  2. Direct talks with NKorea, never been tried. Problem started Sept 8 1945 when US refused to talk to delegation of Korean Provisional Regime (the resistance during Japanese occupation) sent out to welcome them, preferring the capitulated Japanese occupation authority, and launching their own regime.
  3. Recognize NKorea (that's why US can't talk to them) and give it guarantees of soveignty. Once the threat of war fades, the Korean societies will follow a different evolution. China would also take a much different attitude to Pyongyang if they weren't so worried about the USA on their frontier.
yvhmer's picture

A professor professing to a profession of  a cluelessness.  Interesting.....

 

cheech_wizard's picture

As are a great deal of posters today...

Without googling, who was South Korea's president at the time of the Korean War? (Since the topic keeps coming up...)

Standard Disclaimer: ...and rather than do an iota of research before inserting foot into mouth, fingers hit keyboards.

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/nsa/cold_war_i.pdf

 

philipat's picture

1. Shouldn't that be a decision for the Korean people alone to make if they are the ones who will be massacred? What business is it of the US? Of course, should Kim ever become a serious threat to the US and actually threaten the US in some way, that would be a different matter. Right now, it just isn't.

2. NK has never invaded anyone. Kim simply wants to avaoid being the next Saddam or Ghadafi and has, correctly, rationalised that having nuclear weapons is the best way to prevent that.

pathosattrition's picture

^exactly. Better Americans die for the American empire. A price that makes sense.

Sudden Debt's picture

Indeed, you send 30 to 40 million soldiers into there and I'm pretty sure they'll win.

And when they first wave is whiped out, you can send in a second.

 

Problem is... Does America has that many fit people left? Or are we going to send the obese in? 

That would be a joke :)

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SuperChicken1138's picture

June 25, 1950—when North Korean tanks crossed the 38th parallel, the boundary with South Korea.  The north invaded the South.    

philipat's picture

Imperial Japanese rule clouds that as a definitive statement. Since then, NK has just wanted to mind its own business and remain an independent State. Other countries would do well to do the same and not interfere where no intervention is warranted.

Deathrips's picture

Phil you got my upvote.

 

People s panties in a bunch about a country without streetlights.

 

the target is the taxpayers wallet.

 

RIPS

cheech_wizard's picture

Imperial Japanese rule? WTF are you going on about?

AS for the remainder of your statement, that's essentially bullshit as well.

Mr 9x19's picture

just explain why the fuck usa came to the south instead of always making statement about a date, wiping all previous facts.

cheech_wizard's picture

Downvotes for a factual statement? Have you started drinking early on Friday morning?

http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/nsa/cold_war_i.pdf

So at what point do I get to call you ignorant bastards... (if you don't know history, you should at least be able to access documents that have it written down for you in easily consumable chunks.

The Invasion
About 0330 on Sunday morning, 25 June 1950, Captain Joseph Darrigo, a KMAG
military advisor to the ROK posted near Kaesong, was jarred awake by the roar of
artillery. Darrigo, the only American on the 38th Parallel, was in the middle of an
invasion of North Korean ground forces into South Korea. He managed to make it to the
ROK 1st Division headquarters at Munsan just ahead of the advancing North Korean
forces, and he spread the alarm.
There appears to have been no tactical intelligence warning. A reporter in Seoul got
word of an invasion and rushed to the American embassy for confirmation. At the same
time that he got off a wire to New York, the American ambassador was cabling
Washington. His cable had to be encrypted and decrypted, and it got there late. The
Americans learned of the invasion from the reporter in Seoul.

Standard Disclaimer: Blah, blah, blah...Something about those that forget history...

TeraByte's picture

Agree with and Iran will follow the suit, because US simply cannot change regimes with nukes. Disregard a rhetoric of nuclear holocaust. It will be the Great Satan again, should Iran have to use such to justify its nuclear goal.

Old Dirty Bastid's picture

NK invaded SK in 1950 (Korean War).

whatsupdoc's picture

What's not acceptable is that the US will try to subjugate all nations before it.  Piss off USA !

Lil' Kim is doing fine.  Good on him.  

I hope either China or Russia give him some big boys toys.

I'm so tired of the bully around here ... time for the bully to get some comeuppance.

pynky01's picture

...i CAN HELP YOU PACK ... AND GET YOU TO THE CLOSEST PORT OF DEMARCATION 

Mr Hankey's picture

Get DIABETES & ass-cancer brainless chickenhawk.

Twodogs's picture

Fat Boy Kim is doing fine. The rest of NK is eating shit.

Mr Hankey's picture

You and your butt-buddy hrh neen to be put down like mad dogs  before you get BILLIONS KILLED.Cue John Hairy Lightning Rambo.repeat double-tap to base of the skull .

Winston Churchill's picture

Whats sauce for the goose ,is sauce for the gander.

Were you born psychopathic or was it nurtured ?

new game's picture

full trade embargo with china until kims head is on a stick , then lift trade embargo ...

 

bluez's picture

Then go to Walmart: No soup for you! Need a new hard drive? Sorry, all sold out. Just wait till Lockheed Martin builds you a new one. But the software won't work until 2020. Maybe.

strannick's picture

Sometimes you gotta break a few Korean  eggs to make the world into  a Globalist Zionist omelette 

Iskiab's picture

North Korea is like a sad old dog that's chained in a back yard. Sure, you can think it's time to put it out of it's misery and try to kill it, but you'll probably get bitten. You can try and speed it's death, but for that you'd have to get close.

Ultimately the safest thing is to let it die of old age, why fuck with it?

Just because there's a problem it doesn't mean the government has to step in and be a solution. If the US doesn't fuck with Korea they won't fuck with the US. It's really that simple.

The problem is American thinking that what's mine is mine and is none of your business, and what's your could be mine so it's my business. That right there is the problem.

HRH Feant2's picture

Sure. It is all good until that sad old dog turns up with rabies, gets loose, and bites you, your kid, and your grannie!

Then what? Oh so sorry about the rabid dog that ripped the face off your kid and grannie and you end up getting a series of rabies injections in your stomach!

pathosattrition's picture

You're an brainwashed piece of shit. NK poses no threat to anyone. All they ask is their sovereignty be respected. Ironic that they must demand it from the the only state to use nukes, who has also killed 100m civilians since WWII

HRH Feant2's picture

Excuse me? Fuck you. Communists have killed 200 million plus. In silence. Of course the modern Marxists don't tell you that when they indoctrinate your sorry asses into the death cult of communism!

You think Hilliary was going to end war? Give me a fucking break. Madeleine Albright said it was not a big deal when the US killed 500K people in Iraq. And she is a democrat, you moron.

MEFOBILLS's picture

Communists have killed 200 million plus.

 

You just committed a Logical Falacy.  Norks are communists, therefore they personally are responsible for 200 million deaths?    Norks are killing their own people in prison camps, not engaging in wars of conquest.

Let's turn your logical fallacy on its head.  Since America is a democracy, and kills people in war, then all democracies are complicit.

See how that works?  Publik skoool makes your "tarded."

 

HRH Feant2's picture

No, retard, this isn't about logical fallacies. This is about facts. And the facts are that communism has resulted in more deaths than any other political regime, ever. Period. It isn't what I think. It isn't what I hope. It isn't what I dream. The number of deaths, under communism, is a fact. Period. Deal with it, snowflake.

HopefulCynic's picture

Yeah logic scapes you. Are you sure you are not a marxist? You sure read like one. 

Iskiab's picture

The communists have killed a shit load of people, I think the worst leader in history was Stalin at 20 million plus.

I don't blame communism itself though, I blame all government types where there's excessive government control. Fascist, communist; they're all pretty similar and what they boil down to is we know what's best for you, fascism vs communism is just the spin to make people drink the cool aid. It's that line of thinking that leads to every atrocity.

Government control is a spectrum, and the US has been moving to more government conyr and less freedom for a while, and that's a problem. North Korea might become a problem in the future yea, and so might you for your own government so should they take you out?

Whenever you start dealing with what could be instead of what is it's a problem. The truth is the budget for the CIA is too big, so in the absence of a real issue they have to think one up. If your job is to look for threats, your going to find one no matter how remote.

Mr Hankey's picture

He just makes up facts& numbers as he goes along."They did it so xan we".

sebmurray's picture

Communists are generally better at killing their own people than killing those in other countries. Kim executes his own generals with anti-aircraft guns, no one else...

bluez's picture

Yeah the Democrats are sort of different from the the Republicans, of course. /snork

Twodogs's picture

Tell that to the rest of North Korea.

HopefulCynic's picture

But we are not talking about dogs, unless you are referring to yourself and your family. 

 

You are completely in tune with marxist ideals and murderous desire.

 

Your utopia without marxists is not possible. 

Mr Hankey's picture

Just dont tell this dangerous rabid  dog who created,financed & spread communism. "You killed granny.You bastard!